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Honestly, I'd rather Bill and Steffy have a shot at one another than another go around with Bill and Katie. There is no more there there -- whatever chemistry and goodwill from Y&R fans happy to see Diamont thriving away from that shitshow ten years ago was long gone the second time Bill schlupped Brooke and tried to gaslight Katie into thinking she was paranoid. 

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I'm not into Batie 3.0 either. It also looks like there is no possible return of Brill. I am still holding out faint hope that Kelly ends up being Bill's daughter down the road. The wrong baby has the dark hair and eyes. 

I guess the world wouldn't end with Shill. I honestly don't find Denise to be any worse acting-wise than some of the other hacks like Emma, Xander or Zoey, with Steff and Lippy in close pursuit. I really don't want to see Shauna mess around with Eric.  I think that Sludge would be the one out of Bill, Eric and himself to fall for Shauna' charms, though.

Katie, honey ... Shauna doesn't owe you or your sisters anything. Katie, Donna and Brooke took Flo and Wyatt's word at face value that Storm is Flo's father, so if they choose to accept Flo as a Logan and welcome her into the family, that's on them. Any other people in their right minds would have insisted on further proof, like a more in-depth DNA test.  

Also, on that note, what have Shauna and Flo worked so hard at to deserve the "good life?"  Anybody could say that about their own life. ???? 

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Since they had Steffy bang her father-in-law, they should have just paired up Steffy and Bill.  It would have been worth it just to see Ridge's head explode every other day.  Also, Bill's comments about Liam were spot on and priceless.

This show never misses an opportunity to miss an opportunity.  I still wish they had paired up Taylor and Thorne when she was pregnant with Thomas.  Instead they have Thorne drug Taylor and take her phone away from her.  {face palm}  I would have loved to see Ridge lose to Thorne, Brooke have to wonder if Ridge would be with her if Taylor hadn't chosen Thorne, and Taylor to tell Stephanie to back the fuck off, she loves Thorne and is done with Ridge.

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11 hours ago, drivethroo said:

The guy playing NuAdam over on Young & Restless would've made a better Thomas than this guy.  He's too creepy for me.

Lurch, from the Addams Family, would have made a better Thomas.  

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I don't even care how stupid this idea is, or how it's going to blow up in Katie's face, or how good DR is at playing slutty, or how Justin will somehow take the blame for this, or how Brooke probably texted Bill to give him the heads-up as to what was going on. All I care about is that today, for an extended scene, we got shirtless, flirty, smoking hot $Bill. All is right with the world.

Fangurl gushing, but I never, ever thought Brad Carlton was anything at all, & could never understand all of those women just slobbering all over him. Jump ship from WI to LA, & $Bill Spencer is the hottest thing on TV. I do think $Bill is closer to DD's actual personality than that drip Brad,  but OMG, what a  difference a change of a zip code makes. 

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I wanted to make it clear that I was not being flippant with Hope's depression.  As I  mentioned, I have experienced this for a long time, as many, many people have.   My thought that by the end of summer, it would be a great kicker if Hope found her way to being well.  There has to be a time limit for any scenario where it's played out and something has to give.  

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Katie needs to remember SpyGate. 

This plan though? So ridiculous, but still so funny! 

Katie is almost making it a right of passage into the Logan Women Club. Then again. Shauna bit real quick. Just like she did to Quinn's offer. 

More than that, Brooke was shocked. Nothing in the battle of love and war shocks, or surprises, TSFTV

OMG, but Bill and Shauna work. They have a nice, easy, and very real vibe. And funny too! I think I am a little pissed off at Show because I was actually smiling and enjoying those scenes. To be honest though, I would take anyone over Katie with Bill. 

Douglas should be removed from Thomas's care entirely. I cannot believe they actually aired scenes of a father manipulating his very young, confused, and grieving son. I may be alone, but I am beyond sad they have done this to Thomas. After all the progress he had made, and was within striking distance of being a decent human being. It is as if all that never even happened, like it was all a dream, and we regressed right back to gross, rapey Thomas. You can make him a little "off" it you want; after all, he is the son of Taylor and Ridge, and his evil grandmother had a big influence on him as well. But an abuser of woman and children just does not cut it with this viewer. 

I was impressed with Hope and Liam. Maybe Thomas's stalking of Hope will be what actually helps them to start healing. That would be so fucking awesome. 

Wyatt is dead to me now. Dude was looking for a reason to kick Sally to the curb. Just more collateral damage of the sick, twisted PhoBeth SL. 

At this point I say fuck it anyway. Hope has already missed so much of her child's life. Liam has missed it too, but he at least got to experience it with Kelly. Hope has had nothing. I know why they are doing this. They are dragging it out to diminish the horror of it. They are diluting the crimes of the core players by letting the secret slowly get out. I suppose Quinn will be next to find out. And there is no way in hell she is gonna squeal. She saw how Wyatt acted over Sally keeping Thomas's actions from him, who knows what he will do when he finds out that Flo not only participated in human trafficking, but kept quiet about it. I think Zoe will eventually tell Zander as well. And as the pool of secret keepers continues to get deeper, the less horrible Flo and Dr. Dark will look. Originally I thought this SL was being written to prop Steffy, and give her yet another weapon against Hope. I don't think that any longer. I think it is all about Flo, and redeeming her. They have already cemented her by making her a Logan. Actually, I see them treating the Flo character much the way they have Brooke. Completely trashing her, only to have her rise out of the ashes. Brooke has done that countless times over the years, and I love her, and have always loved her, regardless of how disgusted I was with her. Flo is very much like that. A sympathetic villain. I hate her and her conspirators, but of the three, I would be more likely to give Flo a pass.

I miss Allison. I liked my Princess. I wish they would let Zoe, Zander, Charlie, and Pam go, and have Allison come in and man the FC's desk. No more Lemon Bars, but all kind of smartass sauciness. 

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Is nuThomas creepy or just written that way? I prefer PF in the role. The romantic hero. The new Thomas has beady eyes. 

Also, Don Diamont has huge pecs. Pretty impressive for 56 years old.

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The only thing I can say positive about today is that DD has one hell of a body. IMHO, has the best body on daytime TV and is right up there with prime time TV also.  

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Looks like Justin has put on a few lbs.

Katie, there are female PIs who will do honey pot work. You don't have to use your ersatz family members to do it for free. You are both nuts and cheap.

I'm with Shauna, big hands on a good-looking man are sexy AF. But wow, what about that easy-access dress she was almost wearing? Katy seemed a little taken aback with her silly self.

Good grief, that 1980s soft porn music when Shauna and Bill started making out. Seriously, B&B?

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I thought the Shauna/Bill seduction scene was hilarious and good soapy fun!  I don't know what the long-term plans are for Shauna's character, but I would be OK if she and Bill DATED (read: NOT marry). She seems like a nice alternative to Brooke and Katie. Shauna seems lighthearted and fun. I couldn't see her nagging Bill or trying to change him and not getting into anything too deep and serious.  That is ... if he continues to stay on the straight and narrow.  However, we all know how relationships roll on this show. It's instant engagement/marriage or nothing.

Didn't Katie try something like that before with Bill? I seem to recall her hiding cameras in the bookshelves, but I don't remember why she was spying on him. Was it about Brooke or to see if he was drinking or none of the above? 😉  I seriously hope this all comes back to bite her on the ass -- HARD. 

Didn't Katie explain to Shauna yesterday that Will was perfectly fine with the current arrangement he has with Katie and Bill? When I heard that I wondered WhyTF Katie would even consider putting herself out there again to marry Bill if everything was copacetic. I don't like seeing parents manipulate their kids, but likewise, kids manipulating their parents. 

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13 hours ago, TigerLynx said:

This show never misses an opportunity to miss an opportunity.  I still wish they had paired up Taylor and Thorne when she was pregnant with Thomas.  Instead they have Thorne drug Taylor and take her phone away from her.  {face palm}

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Boy, that's...thats something 😕

But that first line is so damn true. They squandered every relationship of Brooke's to prop Bridge and pissed away Hope's formative years on a waffle that couldn't commit and killed all but one of Eric and Stephanie's granddaughters, one of whom was by all rights a Spectra at that. And now they've decided to toss back all the development Thomas got to pretend Tally never happened and to make him the same jerk who thought he was entitled to his father's wife. 

I'm so confused how B&B has even 20 viewers, much less 20 million+ worldwide. 

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5 minutes ago, CharlizeCat said:

Didn't Katie try something like that before with Bill? I seem to recall her hiding cameras in the bookshelves, but I don't remember why she was spying on him.

That mightve been during her obsessive stalking of Quinn tbh, but it wouldn't surprise me if she did on Bill. 

Such a shame William Bell didn't pass down a corporation to Bradley, because commercial waste would be next to zero with the way he recycles stories. 

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I’m very glad that Liam would not let the “Thomas is a manipulative jerk” thing drop and refused to compromise on that. Also, that he mentioned a realtor.

Don’t get me wrong: I do not want to go back to the days of everyone up in Lope’s business... but how is Brooke not aware of everything that’s happened with Thomas? That’s ridiculous.

I would really love it if Maya turned up randomly and mentioned the nanny cam she keeps in Brooke’s living room because she recently changed nannies for Lizzie. Because that conversation Thomas had with Douglas is well deserving of a public shaming.

Flo should have been jumping up and down at the thought of moving. it’ll keep Zoe from being able to barge into her home at all hours, attempting to dictate her decisions and whining about how she has the right because it’s her dad’s apartment.

It’s a stupid storyline, but I thoroughly enjoyed the scenes with Katie rationalizing her stupid plan, Shawna basically being like, “whatevs, I’m down for whatever,” and Brooke’s exasperated, “how am I the adult in the room?” attitude.

Instead of the same old “sad sack Katie gets kicked by Bill moving on with someone else” storyline, I could get on board with one where Bill totally sees what Katie is doing, and then they just increasingly try to outsmart each other in a series of wildly ridiculous scenarios that pulls in every adult character on this show. At the very least, it would give Liam and Hope something new to talk about. 

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3 hours ago, Anna Yolei said:

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Boy, that's...thats something 😕

But that first line is so damn true. They squandered every relationship of Brooke's to prop Bridge and pissed away Hope's formative years on a waffle that couldn't commit and killed all but one of Eric and Stephanie's granddaughters, one of whom was by all rights a Spectra at that. And now they've decided to toss back all the development Thomas got to pretend Tally never happened and to make him the same jerk who thought he was entitled to his father's wife. 

I'm so confused how B&B has even 20 viewers, much less 20 million+ worldwide. 

It was a good story up to that point.  I think they would have had more SLs going forward (Taylor/Thorne, Macy/Grant, Ridge/Brooke) as well.  With the added bonus of Stephanie loosing her mind.  Stephanie was already driving Eric crazy with the Taylor needs to be with Ridge, blah, blah, blah, stuff.

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14 hours ago, ByaNose said:

Also, Don Diamont has huge pecs. Pretty impressive for 56 years old.

I have to wonder if besides his gym routine and eating, he has good genetics. All 6 or 7 of his sons are really fit and darkly handsome. A singer who’s body is insane Teyana Taylor said she works out and dances on jobs, but always even as a tween had big biceps and a six pack. Maybe DD is like that he shreds fat and builds easily.

Katie enjoys setting herself up for failure. Couldn’t be me. 

The aerial drone footage of “Brooke’s” house is Lauralee Bell’s home. I think Eric’s is Bradley’s? And in Beverly Hills, nothing to sneeze at. 

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Come on Bill your not a stupid man how did you not smell the set up? Shanna leaves and Katie shows up within seconds.  Or maybe Bill did and that’s why he turned Shanna down.  I feel that Bill wants his son more than he wants Katie and Katie is the necessary evil. 

On the other hand Ridge would be all over Shanna and would probably like a another crack at Quinn. 

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Bill would have to be deaf, dumb and blind to not see through that bullshit Shauna was flinging all over his house. She’s a really bad actress and I don’t see her getting any better. Bah.

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OMG, Katie listening to Bill and Shauna about to get down was so ridiculous. Is she developing a cucquean kink? 😾

I sure hope Justin tells Bill what Katie did. And just because Bill didn't take the bait this time it doesn't mean he won't in the future with some other woman. AFAIC, Katie's silly and full of herself. She had no problem marrying Thorne after a five minute courtship.

Well, Katie basically confessed to Bill that she didn't trust him and had to test his dedication and loyalty to her--though it seems he didn't hear it that way. If he had he should be insulted, IMO.

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I know. Katie getting Shauna to come on to Bill while she listened in was like something out of Saved by the Bell or Sweet Valley High. Lisa Turtle or Jessica Wakefield would have done it better. 

She’s in her 40s and been through this fuck shit w him 3x, y’all. 🙄 Wild opinion but I’d you think your guy is going to cheat at any opportunity... maybe don’t rush into engagement? Also him turning down Shauna doesn’t prove shit and isn’t some permanent evidence for life. 

Btw I think Bill totally suspected the scam and saw the phone. 

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Katie is a moron.  I don't know why Bill would want to reunite with Katie.  What's more why the hell would Katie want to get back together with a guy she doesn't trust who has cheated on her before.

There is something to the once a cheater always a cheater, if he'll cheat with you, he'll cheat on you stuff.  Hemingway would be a good example of this.  He cheated on his first wife with the woman who became his second wife.  He cheated on his second wife with the woman who became his third wife.  And so on and so forth.

Mostly though I don't want Bill wasted on Katie.  She is a boring annoying twit.

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How many "One True Loves" can a person have in one lifetime. 

Katie you are a dolt. 

I can't believe Bill would unload all of that on Shauna, a person he barely knows, and who was coming on to him. 

Bill should have been immediately suspicious with Katie's arrival. She saw a very sexily dressed Shauna leaving and finds Bill in a state of undress in the bedroom. Historically, Katie would have went bat shit crazy, full of histrionics, shouting accusations, and making sweeping proclamations about what everybody can do. I don't mind them toning Bill down a bit, but man, this Bill is just too pussified for my liking. 

And really Katie, two times you have tried this, and two times you have failed. If you had to hear Bill saying the words to someone else, that means there is no trust. Sure, he turned Shauna down, but what does that mean really? Oh, I see trouble a brewing down the road.

Multiple choice; who will get Katie's house?

A. Shauna and Flo

B. Hope and Liam

C. Donna and Justin

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All the talk about a half-naked DD made me tune in. He did not disappoint.

MH even commented on how good he looked. To which I said, "I knowwwww." 😀

You would have to be an idiot to not smell the set-up, but of course, TPTB are going to have the sharpest tool in the shed be suddenly dull in the face of reuniting for the third time with his sad sack ex-wife. Bill is too fine to be wasted on drip Katie and I give it about five minutes before they break up again, probably because Bill finds out about the little test.

Any man with any self-worth wouldn't tolerate that shit and would send the insecure little twit packing.

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2 hours ago, CountryGirl said:

Any man with any self-worth wouldn't tolerate that shit and would send the insecure little twit packing.

Seriously! 

This is literally high school shit. Hell, I wouldn't even insult today's teenagers like that, because most of those Gen Z kids know dating and hooking up isn't everything and that pulling this stuff is horrible. 

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Oh for Heaven’s sake Katie. Grow the hell up!!! Bill, run away as fast as you can. This whole story line is so dumb.

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5 hours ago, CountryGirl said:

All the talk about a half-naked DD made me tune in

Half naked DD is the best thing B&B has going for it these days. 👀

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Geez, that kid who plays Will is just so very bad at this acting thing. Send him off to boarding school, please.

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What is it with all of these people just walking into other people’s houses? No ringing the doorbells, no knocking on the doors? I was glad to see Hope barge in although she won’t get a straight answer out of Z or F. Just another teaser with no resolution. You can’t fool me again, show. 

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Why was Zoe in Eric’s house ready to pounce on Flo anyway?  Please don’t tell me she lives there too??!

Fingers crossed Hope can open up the Beth storyline and get her baby back and throw those two to the curb!

I think Denise is doing a fine job, a bit rusty at the start but finding her way with the character and she fits in naturally with the other actors.  She and Bill did click.

Agree, tired of Will aka young Bill, enough already, so not cute!  Bring on more little Douglas with Hope scenes though.

I agree and have noticed Hope’s eyes are a bit crossed at times.

Brooke had a huge zit on the left side of her cheek and I think they were trying to film just her right side..LOL. 

I am glad to see Katie and Bill happy, Hope it lasts!

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3 hours ago, Gam2 said:

Geez, that kid who plays Will is just so very bad at this acting thing. Send him off to boarding school, please.

I thought it was just me.  That kid is so fakety fake! 

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TBH, Bill’s reaction makes sense to me. I would find it more ridiculous if Bill found out about the test and did dump Katie for it. He’s always been an end justifies the means kind of guy, and tends to have tunnel vision about it, and right now, the end he wants is marriage to Katie. So I don’t think he’d give two shits how it happened as long as it happened. Now, if he found out about the test after he’d already mentally moved on to someone else, that’s a different story.

If this baby switch story wasn’t mucking everything up, I could really love Shauna. I love the way she had zero qualms about scheming with Katie, threw herself into it and then was a zillion percent invested in the outcome. I’ve always enjoyed those low stakes schemers on soaps, and I think a friendship with someone with a penchant for goodnatured mischief would be good for Katie. 

most importantly, I’m glad a house is opening up for Lope. Unfortunately, I assume this means Thomas will suddenly decide he needs to move into his grandpa’s for reasons.

can someone explain will’s bedroom set to me? More specifically, can someone explain will’s curtains? (I’m surprised they didn’t really go for it and give him a comforter with a dollar bill design.)

I was so happy to see Hope included in the Logan family scenes, talking about someone else’s problems.

Eric is rich, right? Is his community gated or is his house? I feel like Flo should be able to put Zoe on some sort of do not let in list. She should just tell Quinn that Zoe is stalking her and see how quickly Zoe gets fired. It’s not like Zoe can tell them why she’s stalking Flo (and she DOES have a history of it.)

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55 minutes ago, Foghorn Leghorn said:

am glad to see Katie and Bill happy, Hope it lasts!

Same!  But we know nothing lasts on this show.

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I thought Bill looked hot from the waist up, but he oiled up a little too much.   Also, he could use some work on those glutes. 😉

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GAH ... what a waste of two days on that childish seduction "trust" test.  I agree that it was very junior high-ish. I was surprised and admittedly disappointed when Bill quickly agreed with Katie's motives and didn't get angry.  Seriously, if I were Bill, I would really think that over very slowly and carefully before saying "I do" (again).  As it is, he can look forward to a marriage filled with a wife who is constantly insecure, probably frequently checking his calendar and phone, nagging Justin and Alison's replacement on Bill's whereabouts, etc.  Not to to mention the constant weeping and sniveling at the drop of a hat. 

I would honestly rather see Still than Batie 3.0. Since Bill has already sampled the merchandise, a Still marriage shouldn't raise eyebrows after all this time.  I still wish he'd have a breezy, fun relationship with Shauna. I thought they had good chemistry and made a striking couple. The pairing doesn't have to be front and center. I also miss ball-busting businessman Bill. This p-whipped version isn't doing it for me at ll -- shirt or no shirt.

Why does Brooke pretend that she never loved Bill or was married to him one minute, then defending him the next? Her cheerleading responses seem robotic at best. What's going on there? Either she truly doesn't or didn't give a damn about him, or she's feeling some remorse about leaving him.  And speaking of ... I thought Brooke was the one who made Bill a "better man." Now, it's Katie.  But first it was Katie.  Did Steffy ever earn that honor? He really is looking wimpier by the day. He needs to drop somebody out of a helicopter, like Dr. Shady.

Lastly, don't get too excited about the conclusion of today's show. I posted something in the spoiler thread you might be interested in.  Good news and bad news. You choose which is which! 😉

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4 hours ago, CountryGirl said:

Lucky Shauna because yum...yum.

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DD is a far cry from Charlie Sheen. Should I say Denice is WINNING!  First with dumping Charlie’s worthless ass and than with getting to grope and kissing DD.

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Well now, Katie actually came clean about testing Bill. Brave of her to show her insecurities like that. I guess...😒

At first I wondered why Zoe was stalking Flo in Eric's house and then I remembered that her boyfriend Xander lives there. It's not entirely like she was trespassing. She's still way out of line with Flo though, IMO.

So now thinks she can tell Flo who she can date too? Girl, bye. If Zoe is so worried about the secret coming out maybe she's the one who should leave town. Or get a hobby.

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2 hours ago, Ohwell said:

I thought it was just me.  That kid is so fakety fake! 

I don't like him either. In general, I don't like child actors. I sound like a curmudgeon. 🙂

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What is left to say about Zoey that hasn’t been said before.  Eat shit and die, STFU, go to hell, who died and left you boss, etc.

Flo can’t mess with Zoey’s life but Zoey can mess with Flo’s. Did I miss something?  Is Zoey actually a Forester? 

Bill forgave Katie because Shanna left him with 🔵🔵, and he needed some sexual healing.  Or in the world of Stallions, Katie used Shanna as the teaser pony. 

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I'm just gonna wait and see just how long this new, de-nutted, born again version of Bill is gonna last.......   😇

......and cackle like a drunk hen when he gets back to his normal self. 😈

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9 hours ago, Waldo13 said:

Flo can’t mess with Zoey’s life but Zoey can mess with Flo’s. Did I miss something? 

Nope, you didn't miss a thing.  This show should be renamed The Bold and the Beautiful and the Hypocrites.

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Hey Bill what ya doing out there

Going down without a fight

While Katie says she can’t trust you

Katie had to pull some game playin’

Katie had to pull some shit just sayin’

And Bill just smiling’

He don’t even know her, but still loves her

Oh, for fucks sake, Batie three times

Is more than anyone needs in a lifetime

It’s burnt to a crisp

And duller than dull

Oh, my goodness

But this shit happened with a quickness

Oh, twice to the alter

Should have ended the Batie show

If Bill looks at Brooke the wrong way

Pull her rings off Katie will

And tell Brill they broke her heart

Katie will know how many times she saw them

How Bill told Brooke he adored her

And only in Katie’s dreams did

Bill smile and tell her he wanted a new start

Oh, for fucks sake, Batie three times

Is more than anyone needs in a lifetime

It’s burnt to a crisp

And duller than dull

Oh, my goodness

But this shit happened with a quickness

Oh, twice to the alter

Should have ended the Batie show

Well, now I have lost DD. I will be ff'ding Batie. 

I think it is just kind of hilarious how the family gathers to discuss and keep up on each other's sex lives. 

Why is Zoe still living. I put out a hit on her a few days ago. 

And just look at Flo, fitting right in with the Forrester and Logan tradition of never shutting, or locking, their front doors. 

Show, here is a big 

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For that final scene today. 

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So from now on, if Bill so much as glances at another woman, he'll have to explain to Katie that it means nothing?  What proof will she need?  

Purse, meet balls.

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