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51 minutes ago, Yeah No said:

Wow, color me a real COL today because that's news to me!  I was going by estimates that placed it at around 10% of the population accounting for a presumed number that might not be willing to admit it.  But that was decades ago already and now people are much more willing to be open about such things.  So that's really eye opening - thanks for posting that.  I personally think some of the overestimation is made in response to a massive social movement and awareness raising by a small group of very outspoken activists in the public eye.  It's easy to overestimate their numbers based on the out-sized prevalence of their public presence.

This stuff is more prevalent in urban areas with a lot of liberal universities and young people that go to them and get exposed to all kinds of ideologies there, which actually accounts for a very small geographic area concentrated on the coasts.  The "silent majority" still exists but it's much quieter, and unfortunately in a lot of cases is unaware of the nonsense going on in these other areas.  Parents are unknowingly sending their kids to school, paying lots of money only to have them indoctrinated into all kinds of wacky ideologies, some of which are subversive and ultimately dangerous to this country and its principles, IMHO.

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Sexual orientation is tricky to quantify, because it tends to rely on self-identification.  And a lot of people don't self-identify in a way that matches their actual behavior.  Males in particular are known to call themselves "straight" even when they have sex with guys--I've heard of some that say that since they are the ones doing the penetrating when they are having sex with a guy, they're still straight because they are doing the "man's" role. 

Kinsey, from whom we got the 10% number, looked only at behavior--what people did, not what they called themselves or who they were attracted to.  Granted, he may not have had the most representative sample (he could only get information from those who chose to talk to him, and in the 1940's and 1950's that was a lot harder to get people to talk about than today).

And then we get things like, OK, how many same-sex partners does a person have to have in order to no longer be straight?  One?  But what if someone tried it once and never again--are they still bisexual?  What if someone is attracted to same-sex people but never act on it--are they straight?  What if someone male married a woman to try and "cure" himself, but now only sleeps with men and never women--are they bisexual, or gay?  It's complicated.

I also don't think all colleges and universities are liberal bastions of progressiveness, or at least aren't any more than they always have been.  College/University is a place to go to be exposed to new ideas as well as gain new knowledge, and while many "fads" are adopted by students for a while it will be interesting to see how many of the fads fall by the wayside over time. 

Mariah I think is still overcompensating for growing up in an environment where heterosexuality is the only way to live, where men are so important that women are willing to share one, and where having multiple children is the only way women have value.  It's quite a plateful to discard, and I'm assuming her pendulum will eventually swing more toward the center.

(Sorry for the essay--college psychology professor here.  I have a whole lecture on this, which causes the most interesting discussions.)

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3 hours ago, Yeah No said:

...wacky ideologies, some of which are subversive and ultimately dangerous to this country and its principles,

I am not sure how gender identity is subversive to this country.  We have the most diverse population in the world which makes us a very interesting country, in my opinion.

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3 hours ago, Fosca said:

I also don't think all colleges and universities are liberal bastions of progressiveness, or at least aren't any more than they always have been.  College/University is a place to go to be exposed to new ideas as well as gain new knowledge, and while many "fads" are adopted by students for a while it will be interesting to see how many of the fads fall by the wayside over time. 

This.  Every generation has its cause.  They come, they go.

3 hours ago, Fosca said:

Mariah I think is still overcompensating for growing up in an environment where heterosexuality is the only way to live, where men are so important that women are willing to share one, and where having multiple children is the only way women have value.  It's quite a plateful to discard, and I'm assuming her pendulum will eventually swing more toward the center.

She's like a toddler throwing a major tantrum to get attention.  Once she's out of the limelight I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if she drops all of this.  We know how she flits from cause to cause, posting one or two things and then totally abandoning them. I bet she doesn't even remember half of what she's hawking.

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6 hours ago, Kohola3 said:

I am not sure how gender identity is subversive to this country.  We have the most diverse population in the world which makes us a very interesting country, in my opinion.

I wasn't referring to gender identity as being subversive to this country.  I mentioned how I think there are some wacky ideologies being pushed at universities that are subversive to this country.  I didn't say which ones, and I definitely wouldn't include that one.

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7 hours ago, Fosca said:

Sexual orientation is tricky to quantify, because it tends to rely on self-identification.  And a lot of people don't self-identify in a way that matches their actual behavior.  Males in particular are known to call themselves "straight" even when they have sex with guys--I've heard of some that say that since they are the ones doing the penetrating when they are having sex with a guy, they're still straight because they are doing the "man's" role. 

Kinsey, from whom we got the 10% number, looked only at behavior--what people did, not what they called themselves or who they were attracted to.  Granted, he may not have had the most representative sample (he could only get information from those who chose to talk to him, and in the 1940's and 1950's that was a lot harder to get people to talk about than today).

And then we get things like, OK, how many same-sex partners does a person have to have in order to no longer be straight?  One?  But what if someone tried it once and never again--are they still bisexual?  What if someone is attracted to same-sex people but never act on it--are they straight?  What if someone male married a woman to try and "cure" himself, but now only sleeps with men and never women--are they bisexual, or gay?  It's complicated.

We used to have a category called "bicurious" which included people that maybe tried it once but never again and those that thought about it but never acted on it.  I never hear that word used anymore, but at least it gave another option rather than just gay or straight.

Two male friends of mine have admitted to having same sex relationships at one time in their pasts, but will never admit to being anything but dead straight.  I've never understood that to be honest.  Both had full relationships with a man that lasted more than a year.  They claim they were kind of pressured into it but both were full adults at the time and were not exploited or anything.  Very strange, but it just goes to substantiate your point.  Both are now happily married to women for decades and never talk about men in any other way than as platonic friends.

Yes, I was trying to remember where I had heard the 10% estimate before and it was most definitely Kinsey.

7 hours ago, Fosca said:

Mariah I think is still overcompensating for growing up in an environment where heterosexuality is the only way to live, where men are so important that women are willing to share one, and where having multiple children is the only way women have value.  It's quite a plateful to discard, and I'm assuming her pendulum will eventually swing more toward the center.

Yes, and some of us here including me have said similar in other posts.

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Canadian passports now have 3 choices of gender - male (M), female (F), and unspecified (X).  

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15 hours ago, Kohola3 said:

We have the most diverse population in the world which makes us a very interesting country, in my opinion.

I just wanted to add that I couldn't agree with you more on this.  When I react to Mariah and her "woke folx" gibberish, please let it not take away from that fact.  I grew up in NYC so no one knows more about growing up in a diverse country than me.  I had 3 races represented in my wedding party almost 40 years ago, plus one gay man.  My grade school classes looked like I went to the UN International school because so many races/cultures were represented.  I witnessed the gay pride parades down in Greenwich Village every year.  My parents were very socially liberal people for their time and counted people of all races and sexual orientations in their circle of work and personal friends.  Even the priest at my Episcopal church at one time was an openly gay man.  When he was dying of AIDS in 1993 I came to visit him in the hospital and cried when he told me that some members of the congregation turned their backs on him because he was gay.  So yeah, I just wanted to offer that bit of background on me to anyone that might think I don't appreciate sexual, gender, and other forms of diversity just because I think that Mariah and her brand of wacky ideology is ridiculous and ultimately promotes exclusivity rather than inclusivity.  If some people think that makes me a "prejudiced" or "bigoted" COL well what can I say?

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1 hour ago, Yeah No said:

I just wanted to add that I couldn't agree with you more on this.  When I react to Mariah and her "woke folx" gibberish, please let it not take away from that fact.  I grew up in NYC so no one knows more about growing up in a diverse country than me.  I had 3 races represented in my wedding party almost 40 years ago, plus one gay man.  My grade school classes looked like I went to the UN International school because so many races/cultures were represented.  I witnessed the gay pride parades down in Greenwich Village every year.  My parents were very socially liberal people for their time and counted people of all races and sexual orientations in their circle of work and personal friends.  Even the priest at my Episcopal church at one time was an openly gay man.  When he was dying of AIDS in 1993 I came to visit him in the hospital and cried when he told me that some members of the congregation turned their backs on him because he was gay.  So yeah, I just wanted to offer that bit of background on me to anyone that might think I don't appreciate sexual, gender, and other forms of diversity just because I think that Mariah and her brand of wacky ideology is ridiculous and ultimately promotes exclusivity rather than inclusivity.  If some people think that makes me a "prejudiced" or "bigoted" COL well what can I say?

Thank you.

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I was born in 1950 so I was a teenager in the '60s. I was raised in a home by parents who had a wide diversity of friends and business acquaintances.

I have always been for the underdog and have prided myself on presenting and defending my views with (what I felt to be) well thought out opinions during discussions and arguments.

My daughter was born in '71 so she was a tween/a teen during the '80s and we had many discussions about being gay. IIRC this began because of Boy George and branched out because of others she "wondered" about. We talked about actors, musicians and historical figures who were gay.

I preached to her and her friends about how wrong and how narrow minded it is to define someone by how they felt about and used the equipment between their legs.

"You will meet these people as you go through life and the thing that matters most is their character. Can you trust them? Are they honest, are they kind? Are they mean to little kids? Do they have what you look for in a friend? Do they apply themselves in school? Do they cheat on tests? Do they take good care of their pets? And, by the way, the brain is the most important sexual organ."

When they got older I added that, when you get down to the nitty gritty, a whole lot of straight people do kinky stuff with their equipment but they get a free pass on their behavior and ... the majority of child molesters and rapists are straight.

So now, all these years later, I'm being told in large and in small ways that I am expected to automatically regard people in a certain way because of the equipment between their legs. It's all about the equipment. It is their defining characteristic. It is their defining mantra. Pffftt.

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On 11/14/2019 at 9:59 AM, DakotaJustice said:

And yup I've been in the SF Bay Area my whole life, at least a third of my coworkers are LBGTQ, my employer is known globally for its dedication to inclusion and diversity...and never seen "folx" used. 

22 hours ago, Stefphill said:

I’m in CA, but in the wacky Bay Area, and the whole ‘x’ for everything has pretty much taken over, sadly.  Drives me nuts.

I grew up in the Bay Area...Pacifica to be exact.  Went to HS there and everything.  Miss it a lot, but some things I don't miss.  I hear about these things that @Stefphill mentioned from my HS best friend who still lives there.  My mom is still in Vacaville.  

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8 hours ago, Yeah No said:

o yeah, I just wanted to offer that bit of background on me to anyone that might think I don't appreciate sexual, gender, and other forms of diversity just because I think that Mariah and her brand of wacky ideology is ridiculous and ultimately promotes exclusivity rather than inclusivity.  If some people think that makes me a "prejudiced" or "bigoted" COL well what can I say?

Oh, no I never thought that at all.  We all (as far as I can tell) are totally accepting of her lifestyle despite our COL status. It's Pudge's sense of entitlement and know it all attitude that we can agree is obnoxious on all counts. I wouldn't care what she's preaching about, it's the way she goes about it that drives me nuts.  Smug little know it all.

My reaction was more to the sentence about "wacky ideologies, some of which are subversive and ultimately dangerous to this country and its principles"  With all of the talk about this side or that side plotting to take over the world it just kind of made me itchy.  Nothing that I taught in junior college was remotely dangerous to the principles of this country which seem to change by the day as it is!

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2 hours ago, neh said:

Wow, a nose ring! I am at a loss for words...

A lot of people have those. Even I can’t pick on her for that. The squinty eyes, on the other hand, are fair game. 

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5 minutes ago, TurtlePower said:

A lot of people have those. Even I can’t pick on her for that. The squinty eyes, on the other hand, are fair game. 

It's so predictable. She's a walking cliché. UGH.

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2 hours ago, neh said:

Wow, a nose ring! I am at a loss for words...

Looks like something you would use to control a belligerent cow, hog or ox by the nose. 

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5 hours ago, Higgins said:

It's so predictable. She's a walking cliché. UGH.

Is she trying to look like a cashier at Trader Joes???  Because she's doing a really good job of it!

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On 11/15/2019 at 5:11 PM, Kohola3 said:

My reaction was more to the sentence about "wacky ideologies, some of which are subversive and ultimately dangerous to this country and its principles"  With all of the talk about this side or that side plotting to take over the world it just kind of made me itchy.  Nothing that I taught in junior college was remotely dangerous to the principles of this country which seem to change by the day as it is!

I'm sure that when and where you taught you are absolutely correct, but think some of the stuff going on at some universities right now would make any COL gasp in shock and horror.   I will put my opinion on this under a spoiler box because I don't want anyone who disagrees strongly to get offended. 

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 It includes a re-interpretation of American history that culminates in a put down of the democratic principles this country was founded on and the people that founded it, plus our system of government in general.  A lot of statues are being thrown down and American historical figures being trashed because they were products of their time.  Even the mascot at George Washington University was a target of this - This year a campus group pushed to have his name (the Colonial) changed because they thought it smacked of "colonialsim" (which couldn't be further from the truth, btw).  And they succeeded!  You can't make this stuff up!  Because the founding fathers may have held some beliefs and did some things we would be against today everything they did for this country is being devalued.  Many young people today are in favor of socialism, and even for limiting free speech, and I think I know where they're getting these ideas from because it's mostly being talked about on college campuses.  IMO they don't really know what socialism is, and they don't understand the implications of limiting free speech. 

Remember Winston Churchill who said:

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‘Many forms of Government have been tried, and will be tried in this world of sin and woe. No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all-wise. Indeed it has been said that democracy is the worst form of Government except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time.…’

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Churchill also quoted "Those who do not learn history are doomed to repeat it." The quote is most likely due to writer and philosopher George Santayana, and in its original form it read, "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."

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Guys, we're generally getting very far away from Mariah, and very close to politics. Let's get back to Mariah, please. And keep our thoughts about current political movements out of the forums.

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On 11/18/2019 at 5:40 AM, ginger90 said:

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"So people know you are still together?"  Interesting.  Her followers must be asking.  It's a legit question, since 98% of her posts are all Pudge, Pudge, Pudge.

I'm actually bummed to see Audge still with Mariah, to be honest.

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31 minutes ago, laurakaye said:

"So people know you are still together?"  Interesting.  Her followers must be asking.  It's a legit question, since 98% of her posts are all Pudge, Pudge, Pudge.

I'm actually bummed to see Audge still with Mariah, to be honest.

Right?? Who knew, but who cares?

I can't wait for social media to come crashing down. The posting of any and every thing just boggles my mind. Pudge is smart to get this conversation started because personally speaking, I have been just sooooo concerned as to their current relationship status.😝. Luckily, I know now that the fake girl and her fake persona (of who she considers HERself) is still in a woke lesbian relationship. I just hated not knowing🙄 

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1 hour ago, laurakaye said:

"So people know you are still together?"  Interesting.  Her followers must be asking.  It's a legit question, since 98% of her posts are all Pudge, Pudge, Pudge.

I'm actually bummed to see Audge still with Mariah, to be honest.

Me too.  Sludge can do better, I'm sure.

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Me, me, me, me, me. Kindness to me. Honoring me. The rest of you are on your own.

Very enlightened, Pudge.

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22 minutes ago, Kohola3 said:

Me, me, me, me, me. Kindness to me. Honoring me. The rest of you are on your own.

Very enlightened, Pudge.

This. 

It’s always about MARIAH. Mariah wants to love herself a bit more because, you know, she can’t be nice to anyone or anything else until she loves HERSELF more. I think she’s mastered self-love; IT’S ALL SHE FUCKING DOES.

Mariah, you’re pathetic. So you got a yoga instructor cert and think you’re up there with Ghandi now. Not quite, dear. You probably don’t even understand that religion—you’re just a hipster, self-worshipping, wanna-be poser. Ghandi went on hunger strikes, made himself uncomfortable. You, on the other hand, are loving yourself with copious amounts of vegan hot dogs and expensive brunches. 

Fake, phony, ignorant numpty. 

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2 hours ago, ginger90 said:

Is this an old photo or is she back to terrorize the neighborhood children by doing yoga in the park again?

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14 minutes ago, laurakaye said:

Is this an old photo or is she back to terrorize the neighborhood children by doing yoga in the park again?

I think it's an old pic because it's too green and lush looking, she posted a couple days ago and it was snowy and looked cold as hell.

I could be wrong, just a guess 

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18 minutes ago, laurakaye said:

Is this an old photo or is she back to terrorize the neighborhood children by doing yoga in the park again?

It’s old. She’s recycling, being woke, and all!

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7 hours ago, ginger90 said:

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Yawn. More recycled egotistical yoga pictures of her royal wokeness, combined with the plagiarised bandwagon ideology, from the latest woke cause.

Get some new material already Mariah the Messiah, you’re getting stale and predictable. 

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I know someone who has a septum piercing like that. It wiggles when she talks and I can’t look away. 

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6 hours ago, Meowwww said:

I know someone who has a septum piercing like that. It wiggles when she talks and I can’t look away. 

Thanks Meowww, I just snorted coffee up my nose because of you!  🤧  Now when I get around people like that all I'm gonna be looking out for is the Septum Scoot Boogie taking place on their faces.   🤪

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I really like Audrey's web site.  It's clean, professional and well-organized.

And I'm digging her work, too.  Cute stuff.  I will turn 50 in a couple of weeks, and I'm thinking a self-portrait in Audrey's style would be awesome.  Maybe I'll contact her!  I'm only a 4-hour drive from Chicago!!

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Nice website.  I didn't stay long enough to have any Pudge sightings.  Audrey, I still think you can do better than ME-riah.

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I have to say that I am honestly impressed with Sludge's graphics.  She, at least, has a real talent.  If she was smart she'd hightail it out of the clutches of the airhead, with her regurgitated words of wisdom, ASAP.  With her marketable talent she'll end up supporting Pudge's $12 brunch and $6 coffees for the rest of their lives.

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22 minutes ago, Kohola3 said:

I have to say that I am honestly impressed with Sludge's graphics.  She, at least, has a real talent.  If she was smart she'd hightail it out of the clutches of the airhead, with her regurgitated words of wisdom, ASAP.  With her marketable talent she'll end up supporting Pudge's $12 brunch and $6 coffees for the rest of their lives.

I agree... I didn't look at the whole site but from what i saw it looked good.

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1 hour ago, Joan of Argh said:

Have Sludges family been on the show?

I wonder what they think of the whole mess of Browns?

I don't recall seeing Sludge's family on SW, and I haven't heard anything about them.  It would be interesting to hear their take on the Brown Clowns (and Logan's GF Michelle's family too.)

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While I don’t doubt Auj has some genuine talent and I do admire she’s actually trying to launch a legitimate career (as opposed to her unmentioned shitty side hustle pyramid scheme), I think her whole identity is way too wrapped up in Mariah.

I know she has to start her career somewhere, but looks to me like ‘Mariah’s vanity project’ is the basis of most of her website offerings as she features heavily throughout. I would like to see Auj stand on her own as an individual more. Do you think Auj is featured at all on Mariah’s website? Heck no. Mariah doesn’t need her

I want to like Audrey, but she does come across looking a bit like an aimless unconfident puppy dog, following around and riding the coat tails of her narcissistic master Mariah. 

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Ha! Mariah is not "welcoming to all people". IMO. 

I agree that Audrey has talent, but I think she'd be better off getting a job in a creative/marketing department of a big employer where she can get some real experience along with a regular paycheck, vacation, and benefits along with the opportunity to associate with other humans besides Ms. Priss. 

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On 11/20/2019 at 12:46 PM, xwordfanatik said:

More blather from Her Royal Wokeness.  FFS, does anyone rilly care?  NO.

Perplexingly, Mariah's 3,762 followers who "liked" her post care\understand her blather. I don't get it but Col am I.

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1 hour ago, DakotaJustice said:

Ha! Mariah is not "welcoming to all people". IMO. 

I agree that Audrey has talent, but I think she'd be better off getting a job in a creative/marketing department of a big employer where she can get some real experience along with a regular paycheck, vacation, and benefits along with the opportunity to associate with other humans besides Ms. Priss. 

While true.  You can't just up and head to Flagstaff for filming and holidays when you want to.  That is why some of the others are not always able to be there like Logan.  He works a real job and you can't always get days off.  

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5 minutes ago, Pickleinthemiddle said:

While true.  You can't just up and head to Flagstaff for filming and holidays when you want to.  That is why some of the others are not always able to be there like Logan.  He works a real job and you can't always get days off.  

I think part of the reason Logan isn't there for filming is the fact that he holds a real job as well as continuing his education but I think the primary reason for his absence from filming is that he and Michelle are truly WOKE to the whole bullshit brigade.  They are not trying to run blogs to attract followers, who in turn will buy products they are trying to flog, as many of the other adult kids do, trying to capitalize on their "fame".  The pittance they would be paid for appearances would not be worth sacrificing their dignity and I salute both Logan and Michelle for this.

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2 minutes ago, Sandy W said:

The pittance they would be paid for appearances would not be worth sacrificing their dignity and I salute both Logan and Michelle for this.

It is sad that in the dozens of spawn there is only one that seems to grasp the concept of dignity as well as the idea of education and a real job.  One wonders if it had anything to do with Logan's role as the oldest boy or that he's just a whole lot smarter than the rest of the clan. 

I think he recognized Kootie's special brand of BS long ago and that set him on a better path than the rest.

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Does anyone else think we should petition the mod for a new tagline for this thread?  She's been away from Westminster College for years.  

Something calling attention to her "wokeness" might be more appropriate.

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1 hour ago, Sandy W said:

I think part of the reason Logan isn't there for filming is the fact that he holds a real job as well as continuing his education but I think the primary reason for his absence from filming is that he and Michelle are truly WOKE to the whole bullshit brigade.  They are not trying to run blogs to attract followers, who in turn will buy products they are trying to flog, as many of the other adult kids do, trying to capitalize on their "fame".  The pittance they would be paid for appearances would not be worth sacrificing their dignity and I salute both Logan and Michelle for this.

Yeah, I think Logan is just DONE with the whole thing. I suspect Hunter is too.

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