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Shannon has said her beef was that Vicki was sending her antagonizing texts and e-mails telling her that she was nasty and a bad friend. Shannon decided to not engage with the drama.

 

With Shannon's tendency to exaggerate, I would have liked to see those emails and texts.  They obviously resulted from Shannon not returning her initial phone calls or texts after their lunch together where Vicki told her what she did to her was nasty and disgusting (non-stop questioning when she asked her to stop etc.)

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I'm really getting tired of the show within a show. People will post about what was shown and then someone else will correct them with tweets or fb post about what went on behind the scenes. People bitch about behavior unbecoming of a baptism and other posters will point out it wasn't only a baptism it was the season finale. The show has now been divided into a metaphor of high school : the cool kids who know all of the off season gossip and the poor schleps who think everything they see each week and earnestly try to figure out what is going on. I know The powers that be at .bravo encourage this but I think it's destroying the franchise .

Ok now if someone would help me off this soapbox I would appreciate it, it's higher than I thought.

The only thing I can say is it is encouraged by Bravo and it feeds human need to get the last word. I don't know if you have noticed but they gave a social edition and people tweet (including the real housewives) during a show. Andy also feeds it by having the RH as guests throughout the season.

I am guilty of calling it the season finale. Maybe I see too many commercials on Bravo. I apologize. I think the baptism would have been better mid season when there was less rancor. Then again I also think it would have been nice if they would have had Vicki have a little service for her mother-not necessarily aired but something for her OC friends and coworkers to attend.

I agree it does cause damage because you don't know what is really going on. Add a couple of off screen court battles and RH who can't film with their kids and it becomes a little less than real.

What is weighing heavy on me is the commercialism. Heather and Terry's product line, Vicki and the insipid dresses from her dress line, the Club Detox stuff. I can handle the occasional plug but they went overboard with RHONYC this year and RHOC is coming in a close second. I don't mind if it is their restaurant or fitness studio but just bringing in multi-level marketing opportunities is a bit much.

My dream for next year beach volleyball. Maybe travelling to St. Louis for a game or Jim taking them to an Angels game. I believe Jim and Matt Keogh may have had some crossover. Meghan and Shannon on the same team with guys for volleyball-something more like family picnics-they are blessed it the good weather in the OC. Obviously I am in it for the crazy factor with Shannon. Europe or Dubai for a vacation and include the husbands. The year started off with promise with the Napa trip and then Meghan screwed stuff up with uninviting Shannon. it is beginning to feel to pre-packaged. Most of all let's include people that are important in their lives not just business opportunities.

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Vicki got nasty to Shannon after that lunch in text messages/emails AND Brooks called her and yelled at her on the phone after that lunch as well. Vicki and Brooks esclated that disagreement, not Shannon IMO.

 

Well, if Brooks was yelling at her because she upset Vicki (and we all watched her pushing and pushing Vicki about it when asked to stop - it WAS nasty), I actually see nothing wrong with him sticking up for his uhh, girlfriend (I almost called her something else not so nice lol).  

 

Bottom line, Vicki was an asshole for yelling at Shannon and leaving Brooks' birthday dinner, and Shannon was an asshole for aggressively grilling Vicki when she asked her to stop.  Frankly, IMO, I think Shannon overreacted so she could team up with Tamra, Heather, and Meghan for the big finale attack, and then some.

 

Just my opinion. :)

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Well, if Brooks was yelling at her because she upset Vicki (and we all watched her pushing and pushing Vicki about it when asked to stop - it WAS nasty), I actually see nothing wrong with him sticking up for his uhh, girlfriend (I almost called her something else not so nice lol).  

 

Bottom line, Vicki was an asshole for yelling at Shannon and leaving Brooks' birthday dinner, and Shannon was an asshole for aggressively grilling Vicki when she asked her to stop.  Frankly, IMO, I think Shannon overreacted so she could team up with Tamra, Heather, and Meghan for the big finale attack, and then some.

 

Just my opinion. :)

Yes, Shannon pressed Vicki for answers at their lunch and Vicki acted like a nasty ass at the birthday dinner. There is a difference in how both women and their SO reacted after each event.  Shannon did NOT send nasty texts/emails to Vicki calling her out NOR did David call Vicki to berate her over the phone after the birthday dinner. Vicki DID sent Shannon nasty texts/emails and Brooks DID call Shannon on the phone berating her and then hung up on her. For me their reactions speak to how they each viewed/valued the friendship. IMO, Shannon thought their friendship was important enough to give Vick the room to express her feelings/opinions at the dinner, whereas Vicki thought nothing about their friendship and could care LESS about Shannon's feelings/opinions after their lunch.  As for Brooks calling Shannon, yelling at her then hanging up....he was out of line IMO and would never accept any other husband/SO doing that to Vicki, EVER.

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Well, if Brooks was yelling at her because she upset Vicki (and we all watched her pushing and pushing Vicki about when asked to stop - it WAS nasty), I actually see nothing wrong with him sticking up for his uhh, girlfriend (I almost called her something else not so nice lol).  

 

Bottom line, Vicki was an asshole for yelling at Shannon and leaving Brooks' birthday dinner, and Shannon was an asshole for aggressively grilling Vicki when she asked her to stop.  Frankly, IMO, I think Shannon overreacted so she could team up with Tamra, Heather, and Meghan for the big finale attack, and then some.

 

Just my opinion. :)

Grilling would imply there were a series of questions about Brooks' health.  There were zero.  It started with Vicki and Brooks leaving the party.  Vicki insulted Shannon's party.  The next question was asking if Vicki said she never asked for Shannon's help.  Vicki was again curt, "you're not an oncologist," then it went to Shannon whining about not knowing the reason why Brooks didn't go to her doctor.  After that Vicki ASKED, "what do you want me to do?"  Shannon said show a piece of paper.  When Vicki feels like she is in the hot seat she brings up all her baggage, taxes, her mother's death, talk about me.  So accusing Shannon of drinking the Kool-Aid and saying she was nasty . . . I think not. This was a conversation between two friends and one did not want to talk about the elephant in the room.

 

Vicki has a sustained history of going negative over other RH men.  It started with Matt, then Slade, next up George Peterson, Simon, Slade, Jim, now Jim Edmonds.  She is one rude bitch who had the nerve in Tahiti to thank and ask for people to support Brooks.  To add insult to injury Rhonda and Billy think these people awful because they mention they support Brooks.

 

The OG of the OC is not a real title or rank.  Vicki acts like she is a general dealing with sergeants.  I started to say privates but it looked bad.

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So Shannon doesn't talk to Heather or Tamra for almost a year after filming season 9; keeps them at arm's lengths for, like, over half of season 10 (which brings the span of time between substantive exchanges with them to over 12 months); vigorously defends Vicki (to the point of egg on her face imo) at two major social function blowups; goes out of her way to warn Vicki about the percolating doubt regarding Brooks even after her own suspicions start to germinate (only to get publicly upbraided by Vicki for her sympathy); *and* leverages her own personal professional relationships to procure help for Vicki and Brooks that they accepted . . . yet she was just tripping over herself to align herself with the "mean girl" clique once they opened the proverbial door? If she were that invested in playing the part of Heather McNamara or Gretchen Wieners, she sure didn't show it by laying out Tams and Heather last year or erupting on Meghan at the drop of a hat this season. And, again, I seriously don't see how it was Shannon who escalated the luncheon when Vicki was the one snapping "I'm done!"; introducing hateful sarcasm into the discussion with her "what does he have to do?" remark; gesticulating dramatically; and ordering Shannon to take her questions to Brooks.

 

Tamra, Heather and Meghan all perpetuated the shit with Shannon by making up rumors about her, gossiping about her marriage, and bullying her.  Shannon never went after them, she just reacted to them.

 

In regards to the second bolded part, Vicki continually asked Shannon to stop, to the point of being reduced to tears, and Shannon refused and got even more aggressive with her questioning.

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The OG of the OC is not a real title or rank.  

 

Vicki needs a new title, one that accurately describes what a lying, vicious, self-centered, miserable witch she really is.

 

Since Halloween falls during the reunion...

 

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Bottom line for me - last season, Tamra and Heather were gaslighting Shannon.  Why?  I don't know.

 

This season, as much as I disagree with Shannon using her children for her 'David's affair' story line and my disappointment with her about that this season, I think Shannon was a friend to Vicks this season.  I don't think she pushed Vicks at that luncheon and as a good friend to her, she didn't cross any lines.  I think it was more of a case of someone getting closer to the truth.  A truth that Vicks didn't want to deal with.  And Vicks way of dealing with that was to try and make Shannon out to be the bad guy.  Vicks is a phony.  She always has been one.  I didn't  buy the tears or the protestation.  Especially since she shed no tears for her man when he was going through a supposedly life threatening cancer diagnose.  Her biggest concern was 'work'. 

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Oh, I know, I was being facetious as in 'yeah, it's probably HPV, not cancer' in conjunction with @ALMOST 3000,'s post. :)

 

THIS x 100.

 

So IF Tamra had cancer – wouldn’t that qualify her, out of all the ladies, to decipher Brooks’s PET-CT scan? The ladies were basically accusing Tamra of being too stupid to read medical documents, you might think that’s the moment she pipes up to remind them she had cancer that one time! Odd, right?

I have no idea if Tamra had cancer or not, but even if she had, I would still now assume she could read medical scans. Not even because she is stupid (which I agree she is), but because they are of a technical specialty few of us know anything about.
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With regards to the Shannon/Vicki lunch blow up, at that point Shannon was trying to figure out if Brooks had tricked Vicki into believing he had cancer. I think the idea that Vicki would lie about something like cancer was extremely hurtful to Shannon and insulting to their friendship. Things weren't adding up and she just wanted the truth from her so-called friend.

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I'm really getting tired of the show within a show. People will post about what was shown and then someone else will correct them with tweets or fb post about what went on behind the scenes. People bitch about behavior unbecoming of a baptism and other posters will point out it wasn't only a baptism it was the season finale. The show has now been divided into a metaphor of high school : the cool kids who know all of the off season gossip and the poor schleps who think everything they see each week and earnestly try to figure out what is going on. I know The powers that be at .bravo encourage this but I think it's destroying the franchise .

Ok now if someone would help me off this soapbox I would appreciate it, it's higher than I thought.

I agree with this. I tire of being corrected because I don't know every detail about every HW....I have better things to do. I like to watch the show and discuss what we actually saw....knowing that we all may interpret things differently. I skip all the "inside info" posted to keep the record straight. I believe what I see. Edited by ButterQueen
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Tamra, Heather and Meghan all perpetuated the shit with Shannon by making up rumors about her, gossiping about her marriage, and bullying her.  Shannon never went after them, she just reacted to them.

 

In regards to the second bolded part, Vicki continually asked Shannon to stop, to the point of being reduced to tears, and Shannon refused and got even more aggressive with her questioning.

Vicki threw out of few pretty good insults.  She insulted Shannon's party and then said Shannon wasn't an oncologist.  Why was Vicki "this close to a filthy nervous breakdown"?  Why, because she was being asked to address the issue at hand instead of run away.  I don't really think words like, "I just want to stop the hurt".  What questions did Shannon ask other than, "did you tell Meghan you never asked for my help?"  She asked for answers.  Big difference.

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I'm really getting tired of the show within a show. People will post about what was shown and then someone else will correct them with tweets or fb post about what went on behind the scenes. People bitch about behavior unbecoming of a baptism and other posters will point out it wasn't only a baptism it was the season finale. The show has now been divided into a metaphor of high school : the cool kids who know all of the off season gossip and the poor schleps who think everything they see each week and earnestly try to figure out what is going on. I know The powers that be at .bravo encourage this but I think it's destroying the franchise .

Ok now if someone would help me off this soapbox I would appreciate it, it's higher than I thought.

I totally understand what you are saying, but I'm the exact opposite. Since these shows are now so far from "reality", I like knowing what's really happening. I like it when they break the fourth wall. I like seeing how the sausage is made. I'm so sick of the deceptive ways Bravo chooses to edit and what we would be left to believe if it wasn't for outside info. Social media and the silly articles fill in the blanks. Otherwise (for me) it would be like following a poorly written and acted show when there are far better choices.
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The 'gurls' have been bestial in their (enjoyment of the) verbal attacks. Their words ferociously ripping into Vicki's botoxed and surgically altered flesh. Gouts of mendacity and narcissism spraying, splattering, and spattering. Noticeably, Vicki hasn't trundled about obliviously. Darting and dodging her way through a snarl of invectives, Vicki's shrill shrieking and wobbly whispers evidence that truth. Her startled and discomfited expression and manner pantomime that truth.

Yes, it is mortifying to be held up to scorn and scandal. But, life on a REALity show often precludes normal outrage as that life, ironically, cedes to edited short-stories and twisted tales based on abject lies, half-truths, and omissions.

'Operation' Brooks is a 'mass' of conjecture, lies, retaliation, vindictiveness hypocrisy, and plain  sorry-ass 'retchedness. Brooks  may possess a loathsome ability to enchant a particular sort of woman, but so do many men.  However, Vicki wished to be compelled. Is Brooks an out and out bounder? Is Brooks a deadbeating ruffian? Have Brooks' oddish actions proved baleful? That is a surety for some, and up for speculation with others.

Vicki is an egoist--she over personalizes and deliberately 'misinterprets' the real events in her life. In the end, The OG  of The OC  (and ALL Ho'wives) must realize that life is not 'all about The REALiTEA', but reality.

~{P.S. : please, Andy,

*More LEVITY...More BREVITY(?)}

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The 'gurls' have been bestial in their (enjoyment of the) verbal attacks. Their words ferociously ripping into Vicki's botoxed and surgically altered flesh. Gouts of mendacity and narcissism spraying, splattering, and spattering. Noticeably, Vicki hasn't trundled about obliviously. Darting and dodging her way through a snarl of invectives, Vicki's shrill shrieking and wobbly whispers evidence that truth. Her startled and discomfited expression and manner pantomime that truth.

Yes, it is mortifying to be held up to scorn and scandal. But, life on a REALity show often precludes normal outrage as that life, ironically, cedes to edited short-stories and twisted tales based on abject lies, half-truths, and omissions.

'Operation' Brooks is a 'mass' of conjecture, lies, retaliation, vindictiveness hypocrisy, and plain  sorry-ass 'retchedness. Brooks  may possess a loathsome ability to enchant a particular sort of woman, but so do many men.  However, Vicki wished to be compelled. Is Brooks an out and out bounder? Is Brooks a deadbeating ruffian? Have Brooks' oddish actions proved baleful? That is a surety for some, and up for speculation with others.

Vicki is an egoist--she over personalizes and deliberately 'misinterprets' the real events in her life. In the end, The OG  of The OC  (and ALL Ho'wives) must realize that life is not 'all about The REALiTEA', but reality.

~{P.S. : please, Andy,

*More LEVITY...More BREVITY(?)}

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If Vicki has a personality disorder, then what do a gaslighter and a mother who sends her first born son off to date rape the mother's coworker have?

There are plenty of armchair personality disorder diagnoses to go around this gang.  :)

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If I was Vicki (God forbid) before the reunion I would have researched the top excuses for lying and what to do when caught. Vicki will likely use some variation of the first two but the last one is my favorite. LOL

Caught Lying

"Your best bet is to present yourself as an honest man forced by circumstances into the distasteful position of having to tell an untruth. You did this not to further your own interests, but to protect others…

...An equally honorable motive for lying is that you did it to protect the person to whom you told this untruth. Such is your esteem and affection for them you could not bear to hurt or disappoint them by confronting them with the unpalatable truth…

…When a past lie catches up with you, the best solution is to plead insanity, while making it clear that you have now fully recovered your faculties. You lied because, in your distressed and emotional state at that time, you were incapable of distinguishing between the truth and what you wanted the truth to be. This is what your psychiatrist has since told you, and he has no reason to lie."

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*Does anyone think that Meghan dyed her goldiLOCKS brown and 'got' breast implants due to the traffic of discussion about her looks?

I think she did it after seeing Jim want the flowers the naked sushi chick was serving

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I agree with this. I tire of being corrected because I don't know every detail about every HW....I have better things to do. I like to watch the show and discuss what we actually saw....knowing that we all may interpret things differently. I skip all the "inside info" posted to keep the record straight. I believe what I see.

I thought the same thing once upon a time. I watched the show, and paid no attention to what happened off the show. For me, it was to the point that I didn't participate in chat sites such as this one prior to 3 or so years ago (I always read their Bravo Blogs, however). I didn't read the rumors or stories in the tabloids. I had zero idea what was going on off the show, and that was the way I wanted my "reality". I think, however, that this has become impossible to a certain extent. The ladies have taken to social media - in large part probably because Bravo encourages it - to explain what we are seeing. Because this is heavily-edited reality for them, giving us behind-the-scenes scoop and perspective has become a huge part of the story. They have always gone to their Bravo Blogs to spin their stories, but now they are live-tweeting their side of the story on Twitter in real time, and they are all much more open to giving interviews where they tell more secrets. Back when these shows first started, the ladies mainly only commented on what we saw, but now they are commenting on what we didn't see, breaking (or coming close to breaking) the 4th wall. More and more I am finding the behind the scenes stuff fascinating. 

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And yet you expected Vicki to just sit there at lunch and at that "baptism" to face even worse "haranguing". Why can't Vicki remove herself as well?

I expected her to have the conversation that needed to be had with her 'friend' to clear up what's been going on, instead of trying to deflect and run away.  If Vicki felt hassled, she has no one to blame but herself, on account of her own behavior.  Shady to say the least. (the very least).

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The 'gurls' have been bestial in their (enjoyment of the) verbal attacks. Their words ferociously ripping into Vicki's botoxed and surgically altered flesh. Gouts of mendacity and narcissism spraying, splattering, and spattering. Noticeably, Vicki hasn't trundled about obliviously. Darting and dodging her way through a snarl of invectives, Vicki's shrill shrieking and wobbly whispers evidence that truth. Her startled and discomfited expression and manner pantomime that truth.

Yes, it is mortifying to be held up to scorn and scandal. But, life on a REALity show often precludes normal outrage as that life, ironically, cedes to edited short-stories and twisted tales based on abject lies, half-truths, and omissions.

'Operation' Brooks is a 'mass' of conjecture, lies, retaliation, vindictiveness hypocrisy, and plain  sorry-ass 'retchedness. Brooks  may possess a loathsome ability to enchant a particular sort of woman, but so do many men.  However, Vicki wished to be compelled. Is Brooks an out and out bounder? Is Brooks a deadbeating ruffian? Have Brooks' oddish actions proved baleful? That is a surety for some, and up for speculation with others.

Vicki is an egoist--she over personalizes and deliberately 'misinterprets' the real events in her life. In the end, The OG  of The OC  (and ALL Ho'wives) must realize that life is not 'all about The REALiTEA', but reality.

~{P.S. : please, Andy,

*More LEVITY...More BREVITY(?)}

Best use of multiple adjectives evah! 

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*Does anyone think that Meghan dyed her goldiLOCKS brown and 'got' breast implants due to the traffic of discussion about her looks?

When you go through the process of coloring your hair bright pink, it's difficult to go back. It's better for your hair to color it darker instead of stripping the pink out.

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Tamra has multiple degrees in Fiendish Falsehoods.

And, WireWrap you are correct(ABOVE). Previously, Tamra and Vicki were one another's staunch back-up in their practice of enmity and perfidy.

So, I guess, then 'Bad girl, bad girl. Watcha gonna do...'

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"Fiendish Falsehoods"....absolutely wonderful,LOL

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Vicki needs a new title, one that accurately describes what a lying, vicious, self-centered, miserable witch she really is.

 

Since Halloween falls during the reunion...

 

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What a succinct description of miss vicki

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Not at alll unlike pancreatic cancer versus pancreatitis.  Man, the hypocrisy with these women.  They call each other out on what they've all done themselves in some way, shape or form.

So the first poster made a guess and you decided it was fact?  Maybe we all need to watch the Dr. Oz interview and see what Tamra said???  

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So the first poster made a guess and you decided it was fact?  Maybe we all need to watch the Dr. Oz interview and see what Tamra said???  

Your wish is about to come true- http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20585473,00.html  Film clip of the relevant portion.  I may be wrong but I think I heard Tamra say she had a cancer on her cervix.

Brooks claims he and Vicki went to a reality TV couples counselor beginning  in March.  Shannon and Vicki's last lunch was April 15th.  Will Vicki blame the counselor?   http://allthingsrh.com/brooks-ayers-talks-breakup-with-vicki-gunvalson-says-briana-has-daddy-issues/

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IMO the dethroning of Vicki is long overdue and anticlimactic. I've never liked her, could never understand what her appeal was, especially when she joined forces with Tamrat. She's just another narcissist who got tripped up by her complete and utter ignorance. The rumored alliance with Gretchen is laughable. The woman needs some serious counseling.

Thank you!

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After watching the teasers, I can't wait for the show.  As distasteful as cancer has been for a subject matter, it seems to have finally succeeded where nothing else could, it united the wives!  My last thought on this for the moment is (pure speculation based on nothing), Love Story, Sweet November, The Fault in our Stars, Stepmom, Terms of Endearment.....  Brooks and Vicki thought that they could pull of a love/cancer story and have everyone love Brooks as much as Vicki did/does. (it works in the movies!)

 

Leaving work soon, want to make sure I'm home in time to pre-game ;)

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