Episode Discussion: TFGH

[Melgaypet]

ALSO, like Carly actually gives a single shit about #JusticeForConnie.

[LexieLily]

6 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

I'll never understand why they keep bringing this up. Connie and AJ were killed within months of each other. We saw it onscreen. There is no mystery. There is no excuse. Sonny and Ava are both murderers. There's plenty to blame on Ava without mentioning this, which only undercuts whatever point is trying to be made. STAHP.

Don't let that stop Jelly. They might rewrite Connie (who?) and AJ's deaths too.

I'm sure they've forgotten that Kiki along with Morgan switched out Michael's medications to try to show him to be unfit to raise baby Avery.

Edited June 4, 2017 by LexieLily

[katie9918]

Why can't Sonny and Ava just kill each other? 

[stlbf]

At least with Maura West, I can love to hate. I hated her character Carly on ATWT. But not Maura. She does her damnedest with what she is given. Maurice?  Hasn't given a care for his performance on GH for years, nay, decades. And his Sonny always has to win. 

Add in the fact that Scott isn't always actively trying to destroy Sonny is a huge letdown. I really don't like pathetic Scott. Sonny's arch nemesis should never have been Julian. It should've been the smart Scott Baldwin that was on PC and even GH. Not schmuck Scott. Scott should've been going after Sonny legally, in the boardroom and via the criminal underworld. And Scott should tell off Sonny's high and mighty progeny about Karen. I don't know whose Daddy is perfect! ideals I want Scott to destroy more: Dante, Michael or Kristina's.  I'm leaning towards Kristina. Purely do to her stupid mouth. Let her learn about what her wonderful Daddy did to a troubled, sexually abused girl. I would love to see Scott tell her the whole story and ask her to please tell Scott how wonderful her Dad really is again. If the show had the writers, I think it could be another "Lucky finds out about Luke raping Laura" storyline. 

[Perkie]

14 hours ago, ciarra said:

Carly: "SHE KILLED CONNIE!  And she never paid for it."

Connie versus AJ:

Sonny and Ava were in prison for the same amount of time, about 2 months, before escaping.  Sonny got pardoned while Ava got shot, developed some rare cancer, then had to pretend to be some Jersey bimbo for months just to get back into her daughter's lives. 

AJ versus Morgan:

Sonny gets pardoned after two months in jail.  Ava gets burned alive and told she'll never have a relationship with her daughters again.  

Yeah, that Ava, never pays.  

[Oracle42]

On 6/4/2017 at 8:03 AM, Perkie said:

while Ava got shot, developed some rare cancer, then had to pretend to be some Jersey bimbo for months just to get back into her daughter's lives.

developed some rare cancer, for about a week and a half, then had to decided to pretend to be some Jersey bimbo for months just to get back into her daughter's lives and spent most of her time fucking her daughter's boyfriend.

And it wasn't Connie v. AJ, it was Connie and AJ and Morgan. Ava was actively trying to get AJ killed to save herself. The fact that she got Sonny's stupid ass to pull the trigger does not make her less complicit. And what she did to Morgan was cruel.  She  actually KNEW what was happening and what was wrong. Everybody else thought he was doing better because he had been - before she switched his pills. 

I just want Sonny/Ava to kill each other.

Edited June 5, 2017 by Oracle42

[tveyeonyou]

54 minutes ago, Perkie said:

Connie versus AJ:

Sonny and Ava were in prison for the same amount of time, about 2 months, before escaping.  Sonny got pardoned while Ava got shot, developed some rare cancer, then had to pretend to be some Jersey bimbo for months just to get back into her daughter's lives. 

AJ versus Morgan:

Sonny gets pardoned after two months in jail.  Ava gets burned alive and told she'll never have a relationship with her daughters again.  

Yeah, that Ava, never pays.  

All of this^^^

And I don't think it's man/woman thing that keeps Sonny holding onto the keys to the city while Ava is in a hospital bed with slimy Sonny hovering over her breathing his nasty pasta breath in her direction, (nothing against pasta, just everything against Sonny). Although it's clear that even the woman writers can't write for women, it's like a law that sucky Sonny always wins always, regardless of who writes this shit. And he still continues to whine about payback while he lives in his mansion cooking bad pasta and fucking bad versions of Brenda as he tells Carly how much he loves her between bouts of screaming "betrayal!". I really wish Morgan would show up alive already (because of course it's gotta happen) just to stop Sonny and Carly from their latest self righteous tour. And make Avery Morgan's spawn while they're at it, Sonny needs to have everything taken away from him, although he still wouldn't pay enough for all the awfulness he's done.

Do those Sonny fans on Twitter really like him? I imagine a room filled with computers and GH interns tweeting Sonny-love all the live long day.

Also, Ava's eyeball is a better actor than Sonny/MB.

[dubbel zout]

11 hours ago, stlbf said:

I don't know whose Daddy is perfect! ideals I want Scott to destroy more: Dante, Michael or Kristina's.

None of those kids think Sonny is perfect. I think Dante has the most pragmatic view, which makes sense given Sonny wasn't a part of his life until Dante was an adult. Michael these days seems to hew mostly to the "Sonny loves his kids" line. Kristina runs hot and cold on Sonny depending on what she needs from him at the moment. (And if the show feels Sonny isn't getting enough support.)

2 hours ago, Oracle42 said:

Ava was actively trying to get AJ killed to save her own ass. The fact that she got Sonny's stupid ass to pull the trigger dies not make her less complicit

I'll always have mixed feelings about this. On the one hand, Ava definitely was urging Sonny to kill AJ. On the other, Sonny was always primed to want AJ dead, and his idiotic lack of self-control is what killed AJ. He wasn't—and will never be—sorry he murdered AJ. 

[Oracle42]

Ava was pretending that AJ was attacking her and begging Sonny to shoot him. And one of the reasons Sonny was so "primed" to want AJ dead was because Ava framed AJ for Connie's murder. Sonny is absolutely responsible for pulling the trigger. He's a shitty human being, but I don't think AJ would have ended up dead if it hadn't been for Ava

Edited June 4, 2017 by Oracle42

[Asp Burger]

"Infectious disease" may sound more exotic than it is. Almost any major hospital in any part of the country has those specialists on staff. They know the most about matching symptoms with infections (common and uncommon ones), which tests to order to rule things out, and tailoring treatment to the eventual diagnosis.  

If you go to a really small, just-the-basics hospital and you have a weird constellation of symptoms that doesn't fit anything obvious, you might get transferred somewhere that has infectious disease coverage. But, for example, there are over 300 ID specialists in the New York City area alone. Some of them specialize in pediatric infectious disease.  

Re: Soap doctoring in general. I learned a long time ago that there's a lot of hand-waving involved. Whoever has a contract role is going to be doing a lot more than he/she realistically would. I remember on DOOL, psychiatrist Marlena Evans being gowned in the operating room, and Dr. Michael Horton doing everything. Someone's kid fell on the playground and broke an arm? Dr. Michael Horton. Old man with chest pain? Dr. Michael Horton. Brain surgery? Dr. Michael Horton. 

I haven't seen Friday's show yet. I don't think I can take this Ava burn story. I wish they hadn't gone there with this, because burns are pretty horrific, and if it's just to serve Sonny and Carly, ugh. 

[Perkie]

4 hours ago, Oracle42 said:

And what she did to Morgan was just cruel because she  actually KNEW what was happening and what was wrong. Everybody else thought he was doing better because he had been - before she switched his pills.

Nobody's arguing that but should her punishment be being burned alive while Sonny's "punishment" for killing AJ in cold blood was to be pardoned by the governor of NY?

[dubbel zout]

1 hour ago, Asp Burger said:

"Infectious disease" may sound more exotic than it is. Almost any major hospital in any part of the country has those specialists on staff. They know the most about matching symptoms with infections (common and uncommon ones), which tests to order to rule things out, and tailoring treatment to the eventual diagnosis.  

I had a bad reaction to some meds I was taking that landed me in the ER and then the hospital for a few days, and one of the doctors I saw was an infectious disease specialist. Even though the doctor who prescribed me the meds had a pretty accurate idea what the problem was, it was protocol for me to see the ID specialist given my symptoms. He didn't have much to do, and I was sorry I basically wasted his time, but he was very nice about it. And no one taunted me while I was there. Heh.

[bannana]

Yeah, this entire storyline is kind of ridiculous.  Ava switching the meds, okay, but then all of her stupidity afterwards which basically she outed herself by constantly talking about the pills, and also disposing them in the heavily traffic area of the docks.  So the writers clearly wanted her to be exposed and then be evil Ava again.  Or still.  But the burning scenario, with she being the one who started the fire and getting herself trapped, well this is just way too much.  We can see from Kiki's reaction that not even her own daughter has sympathy for her, now that she knows about the pill-switching.  The daughter who did her own nefarious pill switching.  So do we have to endure months of Ava in the burn unit, undergoing surgeries, only to eventually still be the town pariah?  That's not fun, and generally I like Ava because she brings the fun.  I am not enjoying this storyline and I probably won't watch it.

Have they said what the crime is that she actually committed?  It's not murder or even  manslaughter. 

[Oracle42]

1 hour ago, Perkie said:

Nobody's arguing that but should her punishment be being burned alive while Sonny's "punishment" for killing AJ in cold blood was to be pardoned by the governor of NY?

I hate them both and wish they'd DIAF while trying to murder each other.

And if you're asking whether I feel for Ava because she got trapped in a fire that she started? No.

Do I think there is anything even remotely redemptive about this. No. 

Would I care if it was Sonny instead? No.

Edited June 4, 2017 by Oracle42

[ulkis]

2 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

Kristina runs hot and cold on Sonny depending on what she needs from him at the moment. (And if the show feels Sonny isn't getting enough support.)

Kristina has run hot since JP came aboard though. Bleh.

I would want a scene where Scott tells Dante about Karen but actually I would guess Dante already knows about her since he must have done research on Sonny before they met.

Re: Ava, she got burnt to make her more sympathetic to the audience. The whole pill thing was a possible exit story just in case she didn't re-sign, but she did, so hence the sympathy.

[Asp Burger]

Watching Friday now. This "Man Landers" story is the kind of story where every scene in it makes you think you've accidentally rewound and are watching the one you've already seen. How many times now has Amy reiterated that it's better to have a hunky guy appear to be giving the advice? She did it three times in this episode alone, and she's said it before.  

The Kiki actress does a good job with hysteria, I have to admit. She really does sound as though she's coming apart.  

[P3pp3rb1rd]

3 hours ago, Asp Burger said:

...I don't think I can take this Ava burn story. I wish they hadn't gone there with this, because burns are pretty horrific, and if it's just to serve Sonny and Carly, ugh. 

So Spencer mainly got a burn on the side of his face, mostly, and he got the very best treatment at the Shriners' Hospitals for Children, including commercials on GH. Ava gets burns all over and has one eye peeping out of her bandages, and she doesn't even get a burn specialist at Podunk General Hospital? There are at least eleven burn centers in the state of New York, and New England has plenty of fine ones that she could be evacuated to. She and Julian have plenty of money to pay for any treatment.

I can't get over that Spencer gets treated so much better than Ava.

[WendyCR72]

Still say a runaway asteroid should just slam into PC and kill...well, everyone. Can't think of a single redeemable character. Wait, maybe Emma. She can live. And unseen Cam and Aidan. (Young Jake annoys me in that he SHOULD STILL BE DEAD, so he can cross over to the other side with the rest...again.)

[Asp Burger]

"Back from the dead" annoys me in general, because it's overused on soaps and it makes death meaningless. It's hard to grieve with (and for) the characters if it's all a joke we're in on. "He'll be back when they recast the role." Pretty much the only time I buy into it anymore is when it's an Edward or Lila, an old person who was written to die because the actor did. Or maybe if it is some surplus character who plainly was not working, so no one really cares.

When I saw a miscarried baby from the '90s brought back on a soap as a young adult character, I thought a new standard had been set for ridiculousness.

But Dead-Now-Alive Jake is not a case of it that bothered me as much as some have, because I thought killing him off in the first place was mean-spirited and unnecessary.

[Nalan]

41 minutes ago, WendyCR72 said:

Still say a runaway asteroid should just slam into PC and kill...well, everyone. Can't think of a single redeemable character. Wait, maybe Emma. She can live. And unseen Cam and Aidan.

Mac?  Felicia?  Ned?  Dillon?  Monica?  They all seem fine and redeemable to me.

[WendyCR72]

12 minutes ago, Nalan said:

Mac?  Felicia?  Ned?  Dillon?  Monica?  They all seem fine and redeemable to me.

To be fair, they seem to be rarely on...so I forgot about them. Hee. They can live, I guess. Whoops, maybe not Ned. Still - after YEARS - pissed how he basically blackmailed Alexis by stealing then-cute Baby K. But the rest can live.  :-P

[RedheadZombie]

7 hours ago, P3pp3rb1rd said:

So Spencer mainly got a burn on the side of his face, mostly, and he got the very best treatment at the Shriners' Hospitals for Children, including commercials on GH. Ava gets burns all over and has one eye peeping out of her bandages, and she doesn't even get a burn specialist at Podunk General Hospital? There are at least eleven burn centers in the state of New York, and New England has plenty of fine ones that she could be evacuated to. She and Julian have plenty of money to pay for any treatment.

I can't get over that Spencer gets treated so much better than Ava.

How about when Ava is on the ventilator and Griffin tells Julian she just has to experience pain because her breathing would be compromised by more medication.  On a ventilator.  When ventilators are specifically for people with respiratory compromise, who are typically sedated while on them.  Next scene - Ava off the vent with a measly cannula in her nose.  No way does that happen within one day, especially the amount of smoke inhalation and lung damage she would have received.  But then it would have looked that much worse to have Sonny threaten an unconscious woman. 

7 hours ago, Asp Burger said:

Watching Friday now. This "Man Landers" story is the kind of story where every scene in it makes you think you've accidentally rewound and are watching the one you've already seen. How many times now has Amy reiterated that it's better to have a hunky guy appear to be giving the advice? She did it three times in this episode alone, and she's said it before.  

Nathan is an attractive man, and quite compelling when taken as an entire package. But just his face?  Amy carried on about it and all I could think is am I the only one who sees the snout?

42 minutes ago, Asp Burger said:

"Back from the dead" annoys me in general, because it's overused on soaps and it makes death meaningless. It's hard to grieve with (and for) the characters if it's all a joke we're in on. "He'll be back when they recast the role." Pretty much the only time I buy into it anymore is when it's an Edward or Lila, an old person who was written to die because the actor did. Or maybe if it is some surplus character who plainly was not working, so no one really cares.

When I saw a miscarried baby from the '90s brought back on a soap as a young adult character, I thought a new standard had been set for ridiculousness.

But Dead-Now-Alive Jake is not a case of it that bothered me as much as some have, because I thought killing him off in the first place was mean-spirited and unnecessary.

How about Erica Kane's abortion showing up as a grown man?  What a way to undo a monumental moment in daytime history. 

[stlbf]

Dante may or may not know about Karen Wexler. Or perhaps he doesn't know that Scott is her father. If he does know, then what explains Dante's shitty behavior towards Scott when it concerns Sonny? He treats Scott like a joke. Not as a father of a survivor of Sonny's crimes. 

Michael will just sadly rationalize it out somehow. Or he will just ignore it and pretend that it never happened. Because Sonny murdered AJ and now the pathetic excuse of a man is back to calling Sonny, dad, again.

Kristina has been 100% Daddy's Girl since her bisexuality coming out. He can do no wrong right now. I think the perfect scene for her to learn about Karen would be for her to get into a tiff with Scott somewhere after some Sonny or Ava legal junk. And just have Scott go ballistic on her. And tell her that her precious father targeted a sexually abused 16 year old girl, gave her drugs to sleep with him and to work in his sleezy strip club. And that when she tried to get away, Sonny ORDERED A HIT ON HER! And I would love to see hothead Kristina confront Sonny and get his reaction. And maybe Alexis', Sam's and Molly's thoughts too. 

The only miscarriage storyline on any soap I truly hated and fully would support the child coming back later was OLTL's Blair's child with Patrick. I hated how that ended. I have a hard time believing that they couldn't save the baby. Plus it ruined Blair and Kelly for years. They just should've gone with Patrick's enemies paid to switch the baby with.a dead one. The drama of Blair and Patrick having to deal with each other and their Todd/Marty loves constantly was made for soap drama. 

Liz's lost baby with Jax is #2. Just cause then we never would've have to deal with Spencer and his first kidnapping. And I can see Jax and Liz being good examples for co parenting. 

Edited June 5, 2017 by stlbf

[dubbel zout]

Sonny will say that was a long time ago, and he's a different man today. I have no faith at all that any of this would change his kids' minds about him. Oh, maybe they'll have some anger toward him, but if Michael and Dante can forgive Sonny for shooting AJ and being shot in the chest, they can forgive him treating someone else's underage daughter terribly years ago. And Kristina will get over it the next time she needs something from Sonny.

Scott is barely allowed to be angry at Sonny about Karen, and he's her father!

IOW, because the show won't treat this properly, I'd rather it didn't get into it at all. It's more frustrating to see people handwave it than not be addressed in the first place.

Edited June 5, 2017 by dubbel zout

[stlbf]

Which is why the show needs new vis ion and writers. But at the very least have an anti Sabrina. Let Amy 2.0 smack some sense into Kristina about how nonchalant and wrong it is to just say, it was a long time ago. Wouldn't it be nice? 

[dubbel zout]

Amy 2.0 is not the person to smack sense into anybody. I'd rather the Corinthos siblings talk amongst themselves about what a dud for a father they have. But that will never happen.

[TeeVee329]

1 hour ago, dubbel zout said:

Scott is barely allowed to be angry at Sonny about Karen, and he's her father!

And the show always seems to undercut Scotty when he rages at Sonny about Karen, because Scotty usually starts by bringing up her death and Sonny gets to snort that he had nothing to do with that.  It's very infuriating.

Meanwhile, what Scotty said last time it came up - that he still dreams of Karen and about his failing her - was so sad.

[dubbel zout]

At least Scott has been able to stay angry at Sonny. With this show, that's huge. I guess there are small advantages to being recurring.

[TeeVee329]

By the way, shouldn't Sonny be under arrest for assaulting Scotty?  Didn't Scotty report him to Dante?

[ulkis]

3 hours ago, stlbf said:

Dante may or may not know about Karen Wexler. Or perhaps he doesn't know that Scott is her father. If he does know, then what explains Dante's shitty behavior towards Scott when it concerns Sonny? He treats Scott like a joke. Not as a father of a survivor of Sonny's crimes. 

I think Dante's annoyance at Scotty comes more from what happened between him and Lulu (which he definitely does know about).

1 hour ago, TeeVee329 said:

By the way, shouldn't Sonny be under arrest for assaulting Scotty?  Didn't Scotty report him to Dante?

Is saying, "hey that guy assaulted me" an automatic arrest? I'm not being snarky, genuinely asking.

1 hour ago, dubbel zout said:

At least Scott has been able to stay angry at Sonny. With this show, that's huge. I guess there are small advantages to being recurring.

Yeah, but he's treated as a buffoon. And recurring. Although he does have moments I guess where he's written as a non-buffoon. Well, like you said, it's something.

3 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

IOW, because the show won't treat this properly, I'd rather it didn't get into it at all. It's more frustrating to see people handwave it than not be addressed in the first place.

Yeah, I didn't mean to suggest they would actually do something about/and or bring it up. Just idle speculation.

[LexieLily]

I watch Forensic Files and they can trace a cell phone easily by triangulating the pings off the closest cell phone towers. There doesn't even need to be a phone call, as long as the phone is turned on it can be located. You want to tell me the PCPD can't do that?

[Linny]

Carly's ugliness was in full force today, throwing it in Jason's face that she's lost one of her sons and he hasn't, as if Jason didn't live through the pain of losing Jake. How nice of her to disregard her best friend's pain and act like she's the only one who has ever suffered. Hey Carly, maybe you should hit up Monica and find out how she copes with the pain of having her son murdered.

Valentin absolutely should have been smart enough to ditch Charlotte's phone before running away. I hate when the characters are stupid just to further the plot.

It's nice to see Liz and Laura catch up, even though their scenes were filler and summarized everything we've already watched. I'm relieved we got through their scenes without Franco popping up to soil things, especially after Liz's redemption talk.

MVP goes to Griffin, both for standing up to Sonny and for attempting to comfort Ava. Finally someone who isn't intimidated by the tiny tyrant and is focused on the right thing--caring for the woman in critical condition.

[TeeVee329]

It is bullshit that Sonny even got into Ava's hospital room (nobody noticed the mob don donning a gown?), but his attitude when Griffin caught him in there was almost worse.

And every time Sonny or Carly go on and on about how Morgan must have felt when his medication was tampered with, it just reminds me that he (and Kiki) did the exact same thing to Michael and barely got a slap on the wrist for it.

Hey Laura, while you're there, why not ask Liz how Christian and Alex are doing.

So much exposition today.  Nobody's tuning in for the first time on a Monday in June, Show.

Previews...holy shit, IT'S LUCAS!!!!!!

[Vella]

Carly having another whiny tantrum over someone ELSE getting away with something AGAIN!!! is a joy. Her misery is a delight.  Sonny issuing empty, laughable threats is embarrassing.

But Jason and Carly both respectively acting like Jason was a father to Jake at ANY point in that kid's life before death and quite frankly, even now, is a new form of ridiculous.  Jason was not that kid's father BY CHOICE. He gave that kid up and Lucky was that kid's father for those 4 years, not Jason, NEVER Jason. Spending a grand total of maybe an hour or so with Jake does not make Jason his father.

Why is it that this show cannot string together even the most basic storyline, but can, again and again, effortlessly rewrite history. Not just a moment in time, but rather YEARS of established history that happened ON SCREEN.

What Jason SHOULD have said was "yes, it hurt when Jake died, but I wasn't his father then. Lucky was and it killed Lucky. He was devastated, he and Liz both. I can't imagine what you're going through because I've never had to do so and I hope I never will."

[TeeVee329]

1 minute ago, Vella said:

He gave that kid up and Lucky was that kid's father for those 4 years, not Jason, NEVER Jason.

Lucky was also the one who found out Jake was alive/rescued him from Cassadine Island in the first place, not that he ever gets that credit.

[ulkis]

Why is there talk about that random guy who Liz dated before the love of her life Franco?

Edited June 5, 2017 by ulkis

[Melgaypet]

You mean that guy Carmine and Alessandro call 'Dad'? I dunno, was he a character on this show?

[nilyank]

Quote

Why is there talk about that random guy who Liz dated before the love of her life Franco?

Jason?

Jake?

Ric? 

Nik?

[ulkis]

1 minute ago, Melgaypet said:

You mean that guy Carmine and Alessandro call 'Dad'? I dunno, was he a character on this show?

Michael Saucedo played him, I believe.

[drtslim]

I thought that Carter and Abraham's father was dead.

[mostlylurking]

7 hours ago, stlbf said:

The drama of Blair and Patrick having to deal with each other and their Todd/Marty loves constantly was made for soap drama. 

This reminded me of how Todd had that scar from being lit with a lead pipe by Luna and how they really committed to never getting rid of that scar.  I mean it got smaller over time but it was always there, for years.  Not that I want to see a disfigured Ava, but it makes me wonder how they will deal with her scarring.

7 hours ago, stlbf said:

Liz's lost baby with Jax is #2. Just cause then we never would've have to deal with Spencer and his first kidnapping. And I can see Jax and Liz being good examples for co parenting. 

I never thought about this but yeah, that would have been good.

[P3pp3rb1rd]

2 hours ago, TeeVee329 said:

It is bullshit that Sonny even got into Ava's hospital room (nobody noticed the mob don donning a gown?), but his attitude when Griffin caught him in there was almost worse.

What about security cameras? I guess no one ever reviews the recordings unless a death or incident happens, so Sonny can come and go as he wills to mess with Ava's mind and spirits? Griffin should go ahead and report him.

Carly is infuriating in her hypocrisy. She and Sonny are both impossible hypocrites, and their casual comments about Ava needing death for their vindication is outrageous. Haven't they heard that no one is above the law? Why doesn't Bobbie take Carly aside and admonish her about making open threats to have someone killed?

Today Carly was also irritating for sobbing in Jason's arms and grinding against him, telling him about Ava. Is she trying to get Jason to kill Ava if she can't goad Sonny into doing that?

Edited June 5, 2017 by P3pp3rb1rd
added thoughts

[ciarra]

1 minute ago, P3pp3rb1rd said:

(nobody noticed the mob don donning a gown?)

Well, he wouldn't want to infect her with germs while he was coming in to threaten her life.

[dubbel zout]

18 minutes ago, mostlylurking said:

it makes me wonder how they will deal with her scarring.

The same way they dealt with Spencer's scar and Ava's cancer: badly and for the briefest possible time.

[ulkis]

Oh jeez Carly, she should go kill Ava herself then. Apparently Morgan isn't worth the risk of prisontime.

[TeeVee329]

Kiki is killed, her skin is donated to Ava. #done

[Bwill3133]

2 hours ago, TeeVee329 said:

Lucky was also the one who found out Jake was alive/rescued him from Cassadine Island in the first place, not that he ever gets that credit.

I think when Lucky went to go cure his "darkness" or whatever excuse they gave because JJ wasn't staying TPTB decided they would never acknowledge that he raised Jake and Cooper and Alex are his too. 

[dubbel zout]

Never mind.

Edited June 5, 2017 by dubbel zout

[In2You]

I have no interest in hearing Kristina screech for days and DAYS about something that happened before she was born. I just don't care enough to go through that headache. If she could  hug him and sit in Sonny's lap shortly after he almost blew her up then she can get over anything. And I definitely don't need Alexis' hypocrite thoughts considering she can't stay away from murderers and hooked up with Sonny in spite f all his misdeeds and continues to cape for Julian. 

You guys use so many nicknames for Cam and Aiden I almost forgot what their actual names are. Lol

[Oracle42]

1 hour ago, In2You said:

Cam and Aiden

Who?