S06.E13: Season 6 Finale Special - Check Up With Dr. Drew, Part 1

[Tara Ariano]

Part 1 of 2. Dr. Drew Pinsky meets with the cast to discuss their experiences during the season.

[BitterApple]

Dr. Drew makes me stabby. I'm going to need a lot of wine to get through this one.

[lovesnark]

I don't know if I'll be able to get through it. Watching Useless Drew nod his head while Jenelle treats Barb like shit - AGAIN - could cause me to have a stroke. And, then there's Leah's claim of just being depressed and anxious and going to therapynotrehab. Mr Addiction  Specialist better call her out on all the nodding out footage or I may need to check in to therapynotrehab to treat my anxiety and depression caused by his ineffective hosting. 

 

I have a hunch Leah's excuse for nodding out is going to be blaming her doctor. Something along the lines of "Ah aint no damn druggie. Ah just took the pillses mah doctor gave me for all the anxiety Corey Tyler and Jermy Lynn made me have."

[jacksgirl]

I refuse to believe anything other than Sad Panda (who came up with that perfect moniker?) will coddle and defend all of them. He is such a hack, he should be ashamed of his pathetic interviewing skills.

[poopchute]

I can just see Panda now: "well you were dealing with a lot on your plate right? With not much help from Jeremy. It's tough feeling like you're all alone, right? Here you expected support from your husband and he's never there, he's working, you were feeling stress and anxiety and so you saw a doctor, that was the right thing to do! You know drowsiness is a serious side effect of a lot of these anxiety medications..."

[charmed1]

While the halfway sane cast member (Corey, Jermy, Barb, Randalicious) sits on the sofa with a shocked look on their face as they're being scolded for not being supportive.

[Mkay]

I can't wait to see this fight with Miranda and Leah where big mouth Mama Dawn jumps in from the audience.  

[Elizabeth9]

I couldn't watch the Farrah love fest that was the TMOG reunion. Outright bullshit being spewed and no one disagrees. I'm sure things will end with Jenelle as a life saver and Leah as a strong, powerful woman who sought help for her depression and anxiety.

[vegankitty]

The thing about Dr. Drew is that he is an addiction counselor. He has been trained to NOT be confrontational because that tactic simply does not work effectively with addicts. He uses a few counseling techniques (strength-based and motivational interviewing) that are meant to build good relationships with clients and to help them come to certain conclusions on their own (instead of being "told" to do things a certain way or being confronted with how wrong their behavior is...these things often lead to resistance and defiance and are counter productive in counseling). Anyway, what looks like coddling is actually a therapeutic process. BUT, it makes for horrible tv :-). And is frustrating to watch. Although he is not in a counselor ROLE here, I think he just can't get past his training. In this setting, they need a Dr. Phil, not a Dr. Understanding.

Source: I'm in school to be a Chemical Dependency Professional (counselor).

[GreatKazu]

I know a specific therapist who could put these people in their place. She ain't no Dr. Drew. She has worked with the worst of the worst addicts in Los Angeles including those who were once hard-core gang-bangers who spent years in prison. She has worked with those addicts who once lived on skid-row, basically the throw-aways of society who were once thought to be hopeless. I would PAY to see her take on Kail, Javi, Jenelle, Nathan, and Adam.

[MsSilverSpecs]

My therapist would put these dumb bells in their place..addicts can't be coddled, they need the truth and to realize why they are doing what they are doing. Sad panda just makes for very irritating t.v. I am pretty prepared to start yelling at my television during this reunion.

[HeySandyStrange]

I'm all for understanding and sympathy for people struggling with addiction, but sometimes forthright honesty is needed. Especially with addicts that are so in denial of their problems like Leah and Jenelle. Leah, especially, has ben coddled and enabled her entire life. Forget life coach or therapist, some of these girls need a drill sergeant in their lives.

[ChocolateAddict]

A reunion show isn't supposed to be a nice, sweet chat with a sympathetic host.  Sad Panda should be asking serious questions about what has happened (Leah's drug addition, Jenelle's arrests, Kail moving, etc.) not just letting the girls get away with pathetic excuses about being tired or stressed or provoked or whatever.  They might as well not have a host considering that all he does is enable the girls and tell off anyone who criticizes them.   

[charmed1]

The thing about Dr. Drew is that he is an addiction counselor. He has been trained to NOT be confrontational because that tactic simply does not work effectively with addicts. He uses a few counseling techniques (strength-based and motivational interviewing) that are meant to build good relationships with clients and to help them come to certain conclusions on their own (instead of being "told" to do things a certain way or being confronted with how wrong their behavior is...these things often lead to resistance and defiance and are counter productive in counseling). Anyway, what looks like coddling is actually a therapeutic process. BUT, it makes for horrible tv :-). And is frustrating to watch. Although he is not in a counselor ROLE here, I think he just can't get past his training. In this setting, they need a Dr. Phil, not a Dr. Understanding.

Source: I'm in school to be a Chemical Dependency Professional (counselor).

Oh in that case, I would love for Intervention Jeff to kick Drew out of his chair, tell Jenelle there's a whole lot of people who love her like crazy, smoke a cigarette with her and then tell her she's full of shit. This is my new fantasy. Make this happen, MTV.

[lovesnark]

Oh in that case, I would love for Intervention Jeff to kick Drew out of his chair, tell Jenelle there's a whole lot of people who love her like crazy, smoke a cigarette with her and then tell her she's full of shit. This is my new fantasy. Make this happen, MTV.

Or Candy Finnegan. 

[lovesnark]

A reunion show isn't supposed to be a nice, sweet chat with a sympathetic host.  Sad Panda should be asking serious questions about what has happened (Leah's drug addition, Jenelle's arrests, Kail moving, etc.) not just letting the girls get away with pathetic excuses about being tired or stressed or provoked or whatever.  They might as well not have a host considering that all he does is enable the girls and tell off anyone who criticizes them.   

Exactly. When Jenelle says she's done everything she needed to to provide a stable environment for Jace and claims Barb is just not letting her have Jace to control her, the host needs to list all the bullshit that's happened since she hooked up with Nipples. All the times she called Barb to come get Jace because they were fighting, all the times the cops were called, all the arrests, all the moves. Straight up tell the bitch that just because she quit banging dope and got a certificate from  a diploma mill, she's not qualified to be a mother to Jace and the environment she lives in is harmful for anything involved in it.

[ClassyCourtHeels]

I'm all for understanding and sympathy for people struggling with addiction, but sometimes forthright honesty is needed. Especially with addicts that are so in denial of their problems like Leah and Jenelle. Leah, especially, has ben coddled and enabled her entire life. Forget life coach or therapist, some of these girls need a drill sergeant in their lives.

And that is the exact reason Leah cant deal with Miranda being at the sit down. And JabbaDawn going off on Miranda.

She brings the truth and doesnt buy Leah's BS

[GreatKazu]

And that is the exact reason Leah cant deal with Miranda being at the sit down. And JabbaDawn going off on Miranda.

She brings the truth and doesnt buy Leah's BS

Didn't Leah also blame Miranda for making Cory turn against Leah?

[Darknight]

The thing about Dr. Drew is that he is an addiction counselor. He has been trained to NOT be confrontational because that tactic simply does not work effectively with addicts. He uses a few counseling techniques (strength-based and motivational interviewing) that are meant to build good relationships with clients and to help them come to certain conclusions on their own (instead of being "told" to do things a certain way or being confronted with how wrong their behavior is...these things often lead to resistance and defiance and are counter productive in counseling). Anyway, what looks like coddling is actually a therapeutic process. BUT, it makes for horrible tv :-). And is frustrating to watch. Although he is not in a counselor ROLE here, I think he just can't get past his training. In this setting, they need a Dr. Phil, not a Dr. Understanding.

Source: I'm in school to be a Chemical Dependency Professional (counselor).

I know addiction therapists who are better than Drew.

A reunion show isn't supposed to be a nice, sweet chat with a sympathetic host. Sad Panda should be asking serious questions about what has happened (Leah's drug addition, Jenelle's arrests, Kail moving, etc.) not just letting the girls get away with pathetic excuses about being tired or stressed or provoked or whatever. They might as well not have a host considering that all he does is enable the girls and tell off anyone who criticizes them.

Yeah it should be like the bad girls club or the real housewives

[fliptopbox]

Yeah it should be like the bad girls club or the real housewives

Andy Cohen hosting the reunion would be gold. He'd set their bullshit straight!

[lovesnark]

Andy Cohen hosting the reunion would be gold. He'd set their bullshit straight!

Nah. Andy would just sit there and let it devolve into an hour of all of them screaming over each other ala Housewives.

[Elizabeth9]

Leah needs some Candy Finnegan in her life. She's an addictions counselor too...

[SPLAIN]

Leah needs some Candy Finnegan in her life. She's an addictions counselor too...

Does Candy specialize in addiction to dickses?

Edited September 30, 2015 by SPLAIN

[heatherchandler]

Does Candy specialize in addiction to dickses?

Probably! She seems like she could handle that.

[cheatincheetos]

The thing about Dr. Drew is that he is an addiction counselor. He has been trained to NOT be confrontational because that tactic simply does not work effectively with addicts.

He just blasted the Duggars tonight for exploiting their own family's sex abuse scandal for more money. He can call some people out bluntly but he gives the teen moms a complete pass.

[SPLAIN]

He just blasted the Duggars tonight for exploiting their own family's sex abuse scandal for more money. He can call some people out bluntly but he gives the teen moms a complete pass.

Dr. Drew blasted them a few weeks back, too. He actually spoke with a loud voice that I have never heard him ever use on any of the girls or guys on this show. Shocker!

[Chicken Wing]

Remember that sketch on The Ren & Stimpy Show, "Ask Dr. Stupid"? Yeah, that's what they should call these reunion shows.

[DangerousMinds]

A reunion show isn't supposed to be a nice, sweet chat with a sympathetic host.  Sad Panda should be asking serious questions about what has happened (Leah's drug addition, Jenelle's arrests, Kail moving, etc.) not just letting the girls get away with pathetic excuses about being tired or stressed or provoked or whatever.  They might as well not have a host considering that all he does is enable the girls and tell off anyone who criticizes them.   

The problem is - if these girls are criticized or confronted in any way they are likely to simply walk off stage. They already do this. Makes it impossible to ask any meaningful questions.

[MyPeopleAreNordic]

I really don't think Dr. Drew watches the show. I think he watches the clips MTV puts together for the reunion and is given some synopsis of their storylines with points to hit on. I think he's there to collect his check. That's all.

[Elizabeth9]

The thing about Dr. Drew is that he is an addiction counselor. He has been trained to NOT be confrontational because that tactic simply does not work effectively with addicts. He uses a few counseling techniques (strength-based and motivational interviewing) that are meant to build good relationships with clients and to help them come to certain conclusions on their own (instead of being "told" to do things a certain way or being confronted with how wrong their behavior is...these things often lead to resistance and defiance and are counter productive in counseling). Anyway, what looks like coddling is actually a therapeutic process. BUT, it makes for horrible tv :-). And is frustrating to watch. Although he is not in a counselor ROLE here, I think he just can't get past his training. In this setting, they need a Dr. Phil, not a Dr. Understanding.

Source: I'm in school to be a Chemical Dependency Professional (counselor).

Sometimes you just need someone to call you on your bullshit

Source: recovering alcoholic, 12+ years sober

[GreatKazu]

The problem is - if these girls are criticized or confronted in any way they are likely to simply walk off stage. They already do this. Makes it impossible to ask any meaningful questions.

Exactly. This is why MTV should make it part of their contracts that they must do the reunion shows and they can't walk off or they don't get paid. If they can't handle the heat of a host asking them hardcore questions then, they have no business being on this damn show. They can sit there and give one interview after another to MTV, reality show gossip sites, and magazines, but don't dare go after them for the shit they willfully took part in ON CAMERA and were happy to accept payment for those shenanigans.

 

 

Sometimes you just need someone to call you on your bullshit

Source: recovering alcoholic, 12+ years sober

Props to you. :-)

 

Time and time again I dealt with those addicts in my life. You come to the point where you just have to lay it out there for their sake. They can either take it or leave it.

 

You want your check, asshole? Then, you better sit your ass down and answer these damn questions about the behavior you exhibited on this show that you signed up for.

 

Dr. Drew may be an addiction specialist, but he is not there to talk to people entering rehab. He is talking to a group of people who have chosen to air their dirty laundry on camera and ask them about what they did and why they did it. Just because Leah and Jenelle happen to be people with addiction issues, they should not be treated with kid gloves.

[Elizabeth9]

Leah needs someone to lay that shit out there (I don't include Jenelle because I think she's a lost cause). All this pandering and ass kissing and the girl's going to wind up dead. Someone needs to look her in the face and say exactly that.

[Ljohnson1987]

Reunion predictions. Leah denies her drug use. Kail bitches about Jo. Jenelle walks off stage. Chelsea uses baby voice

[GreatKazu]

Jenelle and Kail are the ones who have walked off the stage. They can't handle the truth. lol

[Ffiferoo]

Just caught the end of this South Park earlier - they must have known Dr. Drew would be on tonight!  

[Ffiferoo]

Javi is so deluded.  Obviously you were jealous of who Kail was talking to and you felt insecure, and no, Isaac did not appear to "love" soccer.  Seemed more like indifference at best!  Also, is it normal for a five-year-old to have life insurance?  I'm not a parent, so maybe that's typical, but I've never heard of that.

[cheatincheetos]

Such pains to mention Javi's five-days-a-week daily job that he's daily doing there every day.

Uh huh. So many sideways glances. I give her marriage to Suckerfish another year or two.

[blatantlyobvious]

This may be an unpopular opinion, but I think Kail looks great at this reunion. 

 

I can't say I buy all of the "I'm not jealous" stuff, but she looks beautiful.

[cheatincheetos]

Jenelle's hands shaking while she worked on patients made me think of the old Married with Children episode where Al's dentist is upset about his divorce and he's shaking with rage just as he approaches a terrified Al with the drill.

[Ffiferoo]

Jenelle, you traumatized Dr. Drew!  

 

Really sad and disappointing seeing her watch all those clips, and the takeaway is how sad she was about Nathan leaving her.  I don't keep up with much news about them outside of the show, and it really seemed like she was turning a corner at the end of last episode, acknowledging how bad they are for each other, but I guess that didn't last.  Jenelle makes terrible decisions and should not have primary custody of either of her kids, but Nathan is downright scary and his emotional manipulation is way more calculated and malicious than anyone else on the show.

[fliptopbox]

Is it just me or when Jenelle was supposedly out of the camera and mic's reach does anyone else think she went and got high, high, high? Total flat affect is back.

 

Anxiety my ass.

Edited October 1, 2015 by fliptopbox

[Ffiferoo]

Is it just me or when Jenelle was supposedly out of the camera and mic's reach does anyone else think she went and got high, high, high? Total flat affect is back.

 

Anxiety my ass.

 

To me it seems more like her demeanor around Nathan is totally different, like she's trying to make sure she's being agreeable.  The way she just sort of glanced at him and then didn't say anything when they were asked about having put hands on aside from when they pressed charges, and her noncommittal nodding about Barb doing a good job with Jace appear to me like trying to avoid saying anything Nathan won't like.

[Shelby]

Oh Joe, you don't sit down before your pregnant girlfriend is seated.

Just gagging. Panda actually said, "Let's take a look back at what Janelle has endured." Please, it's everyone unfortunate enough to be in her life that has to endure her.

Wow, those were actual tears welling up in Janelle's hooker-lined eyes. Over loser Nipples, not her child of course. LOLd at "I'm having an aniety attack right now and feel like I'm going to throw up," stated with zero emotion or facial expression. That's the calmest panic attack I've ever seen. Must be nice to be able to schedule anxiety attacks around daycare and nap time.

Nipples, put on proper pants and take off your hat. These people don't have basic manners.

Edited October 1, 2015 by Shelby

[cheatincheetos]

Jenelle has a lot of nerve denigrating Barb's Walmart job that she's held down for years while still raising a grandchild. Jenelle, you can't brag about a job that you haven't even started yet.

 

Geez. She stomps all over the place avoiding Nathan and then as soon as they're seated, she's wrapped around him like the helpless female eye candy in a Frazetta fantasy painting.

[WhosThatGirl]

The 2 second clip of Miranda makes me want to be her bestie and get some drinks. That is all. Anything else, SHUT UP DR.PANDA!

[Spacecow]

The previews for next week's episode were 100% more interesting than this boring mess. 

[fliptopbox]

It also seems that Jenelle is still rewriting history and talking about how Babs stole Jace from her, as if she wasn't out partying, drinking, and getting high every night with a newborn at home and ignoring her duties as a parent. Jenelle willingly signed over custody before Jace was even a year old, and now even after 5 years of her mother raising her son she's crying foul and that her mother stole her baby. I really wish Dr. Drew would turn to her and say "well, looking at this old footage.." and show Jenelle the scene where she and Babs are in court (or wherever it happened) signing the custody papers. And the only reason she wanted Jace back so bad was cos Nipples knew it would hurt Babs, not because they actually want to raise Jace decently. The only smart thing Dr. Drew said to her was that she and Nathan's fighting is gonna damage Kaiser....and Jace. Beyond that, he just pandered to her like he always does. I still can't believe he didn't back Babs up and agreed with Jenelle when she sat there talking shit on her own mother. What the fuck?

[spidermiss2426]

I cannot wait for next week to see Miranda!!

 

Jenelle's comment against Barbara working at WalMart makes me want to take the two hour drive to myrtle beach and smack Janelle.  My parents worked hard raising my sister and myself in retail jobs, and they both had their own stints of sickness and raised two daughters who also spent plenty of time sick in hospitals.  Jenelle ought to go down to that WalMart where her Mom works and kiss the floors.

Edited October 1, 2015 by spidermiss2426

[MrsSmartyPants]

So only JO gets put in the hot seat by Dr Drew - for not working ... WHEN HE IS GOING TO SCHOOL. I guess only Kail is afforded that luxury. And Javi, looking over to Kail for approval while toeing the "not making a dent" party line. If it isn't enough? Then maybe you two should have thought about that before having Lincoln, buying a 2nd house out of spite, the fleet of gas guzzlers and endless vacations.

Jenelle - the fucking WORST. Bitch, you may have COMPLETED A CERTIFICATE PROGRAM AT SOME BULLSHIT DIPLOMA MILL - but you will NEVER pass a background check and get an actual JOB; not even in the deli department like your mom.

She is so hateful all while playing the victim. Ugh.

I'm glad Nathan dressed up, since he was going to be on TV and all - was he barefoot?

Next week looks MUCH better with Miranda getting in Leah's ass - and what was that Leah was saying about the first months of Corey's marriage!? Get her, Miranda!

[charmed1]

All the teen dads with the exception of maybe Javi, look like they're going to a cook out back stage. Jenelle looks like she's late for her shift at the Bada Bing.

Drew went hard on Jo for some reason. As if Jo owed HIM child support.

Edited October 1, 2015 by charmed1