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The Worst Parents on L&O: CI: When Average Dysfunction Just Doesn't Cut It!


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So I think it's high time we start a thread for worst parents on this show!

Definitely the mother on "Dramma Giocosso" who murdered her own daughter to secure a giant douchebag for a man.

The parents in "Shrink-Wrapped" who neglected their daughter and drove her to become a killer.

Whoopi Goldberg who played the foster mother from hell in "To the Bone"

The drunk neglectful bitch in "Wrongful Life" that gave up to a physically handicapped child on purpose to snag a rich husband.

There are plenty of others, so let's get started!

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I think the father - whom we have been discussing in the S3 thread - from "Pravda" qualifies! Yes, his son was a plagiarist and it sucked that the son was unappreciative of his father and his sacrifices...but to actively attempt to murder his son because of it was just beyond the pale.

 

Then we have Spencer Durning in S2's "Cold Comfort", not letting his son be aware of his own early-onset Alzheimer's disease and his willingness to sacrifice someone else's life to get a cure - not just out of altruism and love but to cement his own legacy - was despicable. Especially since he son's fiancé was merely viewed by Spencer Durning as a brood mare.

 

Lucas Colter from S1's "Homo Homini Lupus": A true piece of shit. His own father had him pegged as a loser. He embezzles and instead of taking the help from police - even if it exposes his own crime - he goes it alone and, in the process, has his wife and children kidnapped, with the elder daughter raped in the process. Father of the Year there.

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I was tempted to start one for this, but I needed a title quote like the SVU board had.  But I guess @Spartan Girl was okay with not having one.

 

I'd like to add David Keith's Mark Virgini character in "Unchained" from season five for the simple reason that he tried to pimp Renata out to Logan, as well as to the mob boss and his underling.  And then slut-shamed her when she helped to bust him.

 

And another season five "favorite" is Danielle from "Dollhouse," in which she used poor baby Charlie to scam and extort men for their money.  Now, I put her about on the middle of the scale since she was planning on him being accommodated and taken care of when she moved to Alaska, so there's that, at least.  But nevertheless, what she used him for was awful.  And hell, let's throw in her own parents for what seemed to be their willful blindness toward her crimes.  With a family like that, while her own crime was reprehensible, I can understand damn well why Claire would've plotted to kill her, even though I didn't condone it at all.

 

And I love Rip Torn.  Love him to death.  But his character in season six's "Bedfellows" really needed to be punched, stabbed, and shot six ways to Sunday, particularly over what he did in the final few seconds of the episode.  Goren and Eames both looked rightly disgusted with him.

 

More to come if I think of any.

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I know this is usually mainly and rightfully about the perps, but I do think "Honorable" Mention must be made of both Goren and Logan's mothers.

 

Goren's mom perhaps has the built in excuse of her schizophrenia for her behavior and, comparatively, Frances Goren (at least of what we were privy to) could have been miles worse, but her subconscious punishment of Bobby and always preferring drug-addicted con Frank because of whom Bobby was fathered by kind of sucked. Bobby didn't choose a murderer for a father. Then again, based on the crumbs we were given about the "father" who raised him, it was six of one and half a dozen of the other. And while he had issues up the wazoo, he still seemed to have his code of ethics. It makes me wonder how the hell Bobby didn't go the other way as Jo Gage told him.

 

And then there's Mike Logan's mother. Sure, he "joked" with Barek about his mom maybe packing clothes for him without pants or whatever. But based on the Mothership and how he described her to Greevey in S1's "Indifference", she sounded like a narcissistic alcoholic who liked to be physically abusive and resented her life as a cop's wife. Great.

 

Alex's family always sounded normal. Yet when we finally got a glimpse of Johnny Eames in S10, Alex seemed to both love him yet be frustrated/annoyed with him. KE played the scene as having underlying tension along with Eames' patented snark including the sarcastic aside to her father about the ruination of "the white man's paradise", among other lines.

 

I guess sheer parental mediocrity just doesn't exist in the L&O universe!

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"Sound Bodies" had the absentee mother, who might have gone to Vegas to be a prostitute but wound up working as a maid. It definitely turned her little by Connie into a killer, the abandonment issues. Which he "fixed" by having his group of girls worship him.

"Happy Family".... worst mother ever. Scaring her two adopted sons into killing their father, making them think he was trying to kill them with the cell phones he gave them so that he could stay in touch with them. Making them think the father is going to send them back to the orphanage. All the while knowing she's dying from cancer, WHY turn them against the one parent they'd have left?? So he wouldn't get to raise them? She was pure, selfish evil.

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Thanks for the title, @Donny Ketchum! I just couldn't think of any.

I want to add the father in "Bright Boy", an control freak that was living vicariously through his son's "genius" and drove him so hard he wouldn't even let the poor kid play baseball. Plus, he was a psycho killer.

Also the Whitlocks in "Magnificat" --- well the father, anyway. Despite the fact that she killed her children, you couldn't really hate Doreen when her husband was the one that drove her crazy with his psychological abuse. But he was the one that knew something was going to happen: I call bullshit on his claim to Goren that he never thought she'd hurt the kids because he found the leaking radiator IN THE KIDS ROOM. Thank God Goren helped get the surviving son away from him.

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Title wasn't mine, @Spartan Girl.  It was @WendyCR72's.

 

I've returned to add poor Rachel's birth parents in "The Good Child."  Pretending to want to get to know her and be in her life, only to really be the killers of her adoptive parents just to make sure she inherits their money, and then be planning to off her next so they can inherit her money.  And then, her birth father, the bigger scumbag of the two, turning out to be planning on offing her birth mother so he gets the money all to himself!

 

And I can't believe I forgot about Keith Tyler's father in "Tru Love," an episode I really shouldn't have forgotten because it introduced my girl, Wheeler, my favorite detective of the series!  But yeah, Keith's dad was a pig, banging all of his son's teachers (and even many of the mothers of his fellow students), leaving him embarrassed, picked on, and bullied at school.  He also made him watch his "homemade porn tapes," as Wheeler called them!  He even gives his own son a black eye for trying to defend Danielle to him!  It's no wonder Keith wanted him dead (assuming he did -- I don't think it was ever revealed whether or not Keith and Danielle meant for him to die).

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And I can't believe I forgot about Keith Tyler's father in "Tru Love," an episode I really shouldn't have forgotten because it introduced my girl, Wheeler, my favorite detective of the series!  But yeah, Keith's dad was a pig, banging all of his son's teachers

 

Wasn't it also implied that the scumbag father slept with many of his conquests with the women sort of being under duress in some way? (Maybe it wasn't, but that's how I recalled it.) If so, scumbag Doctor Daddy could almost be considered a rapist of a sort. Is it any wonder no one really mourned him?

 

And how could we forget the zealot pervert father in "Family Values"? Seen first staring at his own daughter's chest during a play and then vowing to bring the family to heaven...by offing everyone else, including his in laws, wife, and even the dog. And then there was the matter of bombing his former employer. That was one time I truly did appreciate Goren's mind fucking because it would be the only way to reach him.

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I hope that guy in "Family Values" got the death penalty.

The episode was loosely based on the John List case, where he went to prison and died from pneumonia after serving 28 years. I think that's often a worse way to go. That's one of the things that always bugged me about this version of L&O, we often don't get resolution in the court room.

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The episode was loosely based on the John List case, where he went to prison and died from pneumonia after serving 28 years. I think that's often a worse way to go. That's one of the things that always bugged me about this version of L&O, we often don't get resolution in the court room.

 

I'm well familiarized with the John List case; Forensic Files, in its earlier years, reran that one quite often. And the remarkable thing was, he was captured by a bust of what he would look like as he got older since, in the mid '80s, computer aging was not the norm yet. The artist basically looked at old photos and read the profile and then used those to make his guesstimate. The bust was put on America's Most Wanted and a neighbor recognized him. Even more remarkable is when the present-day picture of List was put side by side with the bust, it was almost identical. So that artist deserved a lot of credit.

 

So I can see where "Family Values" was inspired by that case, just as Esophoros was based on the Madelyn Murray-O'Hair case (the atheist family being killed), and "In The Dark" was based on the Ray and Faye Copeland case with drifters buying cattle for the Copelands after having bank accounts opened for them by said employers, and then being killed and buried on their property. Changed to cars on CI. Here is the Forensic Files episode about the case. (Under its alternate name, Medical Detectives.)

 

Oops! Back to the messed up parents!

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One that was a little more subtle was "Homo Homini Lupis" with the father who embezzled from his company and took money from a loan shark to pay it back, which in turn caused his family to be kidnapped for collateral and his elder daughter to be raped. I don't care what anyone says, you call the police.

Then, his father was almost as bad, it was a double-whammy of bad daddies. (Which I see Wendy covered already, and well, above)

"Playing Dead"... the pedophile Daddy who got his step-daughter pregnant, but they raised her child as their child, and his wife was popping pills to cope with what her shitty husband was up to. But I also put blame on Mommy Dearest for always wiping her son's butt every time he got into trouble, and working hard to cover it all up so he could have his brilliant career.

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Thought of another one, Michael Emerson's whackjob of a husband and father in "Phantom", pretending to work for the UN when, come to find out, he never finished college and managed to spend AGES duping his family, all the way down to carrying on with Charlene Caspari/Charlotte Fielding and killing her brother and trying again with her. And then there was the murky issue of his possibly killing his own father-in-law...

 

Enough of being horrible to go around but kidnapping his kids and having two shells in a shotgun, as Bobby put it, one for each kid, while it seemed he planned to bolt, was just reprehensible. I just wondered how freaking idiotic that entire family was in that this guy could play them for fools for as long as he did.

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Wasn't it also implied that the scumbag father slept with many of his conquests with the women sort of being under duress in some way? (Maybe it wasn't, but that's how I recalled it.)

No, only Danielle was under duress.  Logan watched every one of his tapes, and every other woman slept with him without hesitation.

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Thought of another one, Michael Emerson's whackjob of a husband and father in "Phantom", pretending to work for the UN when, come to find out, he never finished college and managed to spend AGES duping his family, all the way down to carrying on with Charlene Caspari/Charlotte Fielding and killing her brother and trying again with her. And then there was the murky issue of his possibly killing his own father-in-law...

 

Enough of being horrible to go around but kidnapping his kids and having two shells in a shotgun, as Bobby put it, one for each kid, while it seemed he planned to bolt, was just reprehensible. I just wondered how freaking idiotic that entire family was in that this guy could play them for fools for as long as he did.

Too bad there wasn't an extended ending where the wife lashed out at him for killing her dad and almost killing their children. If I were her, I wouldn't have even let the kids visit him.

Ugh, the family in "Playing Dead" was so horrible! There's a special place in hell for pedophiles and their enablers. The worst part was when the politician tried to scare his stepdaughter out of testifying by threatening to use the old "you seduced me" spiel. SHE WAS A CHILD, YOU SICK DEPRAVED BASTARD!!

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Speaking of worst parents, we have the incestuous big-time chef from the episode, "Death Roe", who murdered his son-in-law and a food critic, which is coincidentally on WE now. At least Beatrice got to make him a bit miserable, although I'm sure it doesn't equal what her father did to her!

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Chris Penn in "Death Roe" was one of the worst fathers ever. It's bad enough that he molested his daughter. But then he not only murders her husband, he also poisoned and murdered a food critic to frame the husband for her murder. Goren was right when he called him an ogre.

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Ah, another one to add.

 

Yes, she was kinda brainwashed into it, though just a bit, but what the hell?  Let's throw in Margie from "Pas de Deux," who was ready to abandon her husband and children for a more exciting life with Charles Rocket's sleazy character, who was plotting to kill them both by cop all along because he didn't want to die of his terminal illness.  That earns a mention here, doesn't it?

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Ah, another one to add.

 

Yes, she was kinda brainwashed into it, though just a bit, but what the hell?  Let's throw in Margie from "Pas de Deux," who was ready to abandon her husband and children for a more exciting life with Charles Rocket's sleazy character, who was plotting to kill them both by cop all along because he didn't want to die of his terminal illness.  That earns a mention here, doesn't it?

Sure, why not? And the moron was happy to believe in Donny's innocence even after everything was laid out to her. The only reason that changed was because of Eames' little pill in the pocket trick!

I still can't believe she was supposedly a chemistry teacher. God help the kids of NYC!

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As much as we all hate her, Nicole Wallace deserves to be on this thread since she killed her daughter.

But the guy she married who killed his first wife and was trying to kill his daughter just so that he could blow her inheritance on a mountain of coke...that guy was so disgusting that even a sociopath like Nicole was horrified by him.

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As much as we all hate her, Nicole Wallace deserves to be on this thread since she killed her daughter.

But the guy she married who killed his first wife and was trying to kill his daughter just so that he could blow her inheritance on a mountain of coke...that guy was so disgusting that even a sociopath like Nicole was horrified by him.

 

Nicole is in a class by herself. I almost want to say she deserved a cold psycho cokehead like the guy she married, and the fact that she killed so many leaves me no sympathy for her, yet the fact that even she was repulsed by the guy was ironic, considering - aside from the coke issue - he seemed to be a mirror image of her!

 

See, this is why I always liked CI: The intricate themes and the psychological claptrap. As an English major in college, all the talk of symbolism, irony, and such, we lived for that crap. LOL!

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Just remembered someone I can't believe no one else remembered.

 

Deedee from "Diamond Dogs."  Dumps her own son, Johnny, into foster care, rips him from the foster family who's actually raising him well when he's old enough, gets him hooked onto drugs, and coaxes him into robbing jewelry stores for her so she can use the money from each robbery to pay for her drug habit.  And what's worse than that, she offs his girlfriend, Maya, the girl scouting out each store for them, with a heroin overdose when she fears she might've talked to Logan and Barek (even though she gave them nothing).  Gotta at least give her a mention.

 

Rebecca Wisocky was excellent in the role, though, I've gotta say.

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Oh my.... we forgot the shitty parents on "Saving Face"... Frederick, their dead golden boy, wiping the wine off his painting, while their daughter goes down hard.

 

What's even worse is, she never knew that brother. At least, I'm pretty sure she was born after his death, and I'm sure the deification of her dead brother and his thwarted legacy weighed on her by the folks!

 

Not to defend Christine, but I could see why she would snap in the end.

 

Just remembered someone I can't believe no one else remembered.

 

Deedee from "Diamond Dogs."  Dumps her own son, Johnny, into foster care, rips him from the foster family who's actually raising him well when he's old enough, gets him hooked onto drugs, and coaxes him into robbing jewelry stores for her so she can use the money from each robbery to pay for her drug habit.  And what's worse than that, she offs his girlfriend, Maya, the girl scouting out each store for them, with a heroin overdose when she fears she might've talked to Logan and Barek (even though she gave them nothing).  Gotta at least give her a mention.

 

Rebecca Wisocky was excellent in the role, though, I've gotta say.

 

Oh, yeah, Deedee was Mother of The Year material. She was right about one thing at the end, though: She should have left her son in foster care!

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As much as we all hate her, Nicole Wallace deserves to be on this thread since she killed her daughter.

But the guy she married who killed his first wife and was trying to kill his daughter just so that he could blow her inheritance on a mountain of coke...that guy was so disgusting that even a sociopath like Nicole was horrified by him.

 

Nicole is in a class by herself. I almost want to say she deserved a cold psycho cokehead like the guy she married, and the fact that she killed so many leaves me no sympathy for her, yet the fact that even she was repulsed by the guy was ironic, considering - aside from the coke issue - he seemed to be a mirror image of her!

I think that worked for me because I've thought for a long time that Nicole had always been subconsciously horrified by that part of her past.  Then, in some ways, being forced to confront that part of herself through this scumbag she married must've horrified her more.  I can't blame her for wanting to do everything possible to save that little girl.  She didn't want her to go through the same thing she'd put her own daughter through.

 

I can actually see why she didn't go to the cops with her fears of what the douchebag would do (even though I might have gone to them).  Given her history, she knew they likely wouldn't have believed her.  Due to his fascination with her, though, Goren might've believed her, but he would've been the only one who did.

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What about the upstanding guy Nicole was married to before this one? He divorced her after her trial... where he paid for her legal team... correct? I don't remember the whole story as to why he finally woke up.

 

Frankly, I'm shocked he made it out alive.

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Did anyone mention the anti-semitic murderous father in "A Murderer Among Us" yet?

 

And do stepfathers count? Ray Wiznesky, who strangled his stepdaughter because of how much her partying behavior upset her dear, sick mother in "Siren Call."

 

I also think Stephen Colbert's character's mother deserves an honorable mention in "The Saint." Giving away all of Stephen Colbert's personal belongings to some religious foundation. I don't care if she was sick -- that's not an easy childhood. An example of how upbringing can contribute to adult behavior.

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And WE now has "Bedfellows" on, in which the father of the murder victim, later...victims...is an obvious ass what with his obvious preference of one son - precious Adlai - over the other one. And will sadly be passed down to the next generation (as G/E sadly and disgustedly looked on).

 

Maybe the daughters-in-law from hell should have taken out the father-in-law instead.

 

And do stepfathers count? Ray Wiznesky, who strangled his stepdaughter because of how much her partying behavior upset her dear, sick mother in "Siren Call."

 

Oh, Wiznesky absolutely qualifies here, @Eolivet! And the way the show played it with the mom after the daughter died, that they lost her long ago, seemed to mitigate the stepfather, which was rather gross to me. And the coward essentially left his younger child an orphan since the mom was dying of cancer and, even if he hadn't killed himself on their lawn in front of his family, he would have been in prison. So Emily would no doubt be messed up.

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Oh, Wiznesky absolutely qualifies here, @Eolivet! And the way the show played it with the mom after the daughter died, that they lost her long ago, seemed to mitigate the stepfather, which was rather gross to me. And the coward essentially left his younger child an orphan since the mom was dying of cancer and, even if he hadn't killed himself on their lawn in front of his family, he would have been in prison. So Emily would no doubt be messed up.

THANK YOU!! I hated how they blamed the stepdaughter for her own death. The guy STRANGLED her! It wasn't an accident or in the heat of the moment. He snuck up behind her and strangled her. Part of me hopes that when the mother found out he wa the killer, she didn't think he was so saintly anymore.

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THANK YOU!! I hated how they blamed the stepdaughter for her own death. The guy STRANGLED her! It wasn't an accident or in the heat of the moment. He snuck up behind her and strangled her. Part of me hopes that when the mother found out he wa the killer, she didn't think he was so saintly anymore.

 

Seriously, I rolled my eyes so hard when his defense was sort of "I killed her because she was upsetting her mother! Her mother didn't even care she was partying, she was so upset." Like, who died (no pun intended) and made you the arbiter of other people's emotions? Maybe the mother understood her stepdaughter was partying likely in part because she was upset that her mother was sick. How he appointed himself judge, jury and executioner of What Upsets Mom (and had his daughter buying into it -- "You must leave or you'll upset her") was beyond the pale.

 

I swear, that guy was a couple more nervous breakdowns away from going all "Family Values" on his other daughter and his wife. Because only he could decide what was best for them. I guess they're lucky he offed himself before he could decide his other daughter was a threat to his wife's health for some other arbitrary reason. What a creep.

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"Not my Adlai!!!!!!"

Rip Torn is a great actor, had the pleasure of working as an extra in one of his films. He's also funny as hell off camera. :)

 

All that I have ever read about Rip Torn reads a lot like your post, @cooksdelight, but his character here was a huge bastard! Guess that means Mr. Torn was one hell of a good actor.  :-)

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Let's add Nate Royce from "Masquerade" (if he hasn't been mentioned). He not only convinced his son that his son killed Amberleigh, but let him become homeless and prevented him from getting counseling. To say nothing of the fact that he killed an innocent child to protect his own reputation.

 

He also has to be one of the only perps in CI history that profited from his own killing.

 

Has to be in the top 10 of worst parents (and human beings) of the show.

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Season 2 Graansha . The one about the Irish Travelers. A woman leaves and became a probation officer and gets murdered by her own father because he is indebted to another family of travelers and his only hope to pay them back and keep his honor is to marry of his granddaughter to the family. The probation officer was trying to stop it and save her neice from a life of crime and got murdered for the effort.

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And WE now has "Bedfellows" on, in which the father of the murder victim, later...victims...is an obvious ass what with his obvious preference of one son - precious Adlai - over the other one. And will sadly be passed down to the next generation (as G/E sadly and disgustedly looked on).

. . . I already listed that one, @WendyCR72.

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. . . I already listed that one, @WendyCR72.

 

I thought someone did, but wasn't sure. That's okay. The father was such scum, it deserved a second mention.

 

I bet Ted's son, the also not-favored grandson of the not-favored son, would grow up to smother his grandfather in his sleep or something. But those two boys probably grew up to be as messed up as their fathers.

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After seeing it mentioned in season two's thread, I thought of another horrible parent: the father in "Suite Sorrow."  Manipulated his own daughter and her own love life for years, did all sorts of messed-up shit to her.  Even though it wasn't part of Goren and Eames's plan, I almost can't blame his daughter for offing him at the end.

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I don't think it's here yet, but Milt (Joel Grey) in "Cuba Libre" -- hiring a contract killer to off his own son. That's pretty low, as far as parents go.

 

And "Cold Comfort" just deserves an extra (dis)honorable mention because of how vile Spencer Durning was. The self-righteousness...from using his son as a sperm donor to carry on his legacy to treating another woman like an obstacle to the chance of finding a cure for his son...he really irritates me.

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It seems to be the day for bad parents.... "Cherry Red" has a doozy dad. What I love about this episode is watching Goren and Carver playing with the model cars.

 

And I remember the actor from Sixteen Candles, playing Molly Ringwald's dad!

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A bit of an unpopular opinion, but I'm watching "A Murderer Among Us" and I have to (albeit weakly) protest against the inclusion of Lance Brody in this list.

 

There's no doubt whatsoever that Brody is a vile human being, one of the worst murderers ever on the show, but I don't think he's a bad parent. There's no evidence that he was a bad father to Claire -- obviously not telling her about his serial hate crime murders doesn't make him father of the year -- but I feel like the parents on this list should be shown to be bad parents, not just bad people who just happened to be parents. But Brody being Claire's father really doesn't have much of an impact on his crimes.

 

One of the worst criminals ever on CI? Absolutely.

One of the worst parents...? I'm not so sure.

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Good thoughts on that one, made me rethink him as a bad parent. He did love his daughter, as long as she wasn't Jewish.

Two more good episodes next.... we get to see diabolical Connie, who had no parent to speak of. And the mother from hell who drove her kids to hate their father.

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Frank McNair from "Shibboleth" and his body-by-bad-parenting had an incredibly detrimental effect on his son Keith, so on the list he goes.

 

I'd also like to throw in a (dis)honorable mention for Joanne Dexler, the mother in "Beast." No one can make you commit murder, but after seeing what Colleen went through, I understood her a little bit more. Seriously, sabotaging one daughter's relationship because you think your other daughter is prettier and more deserving?! It's not evil...but it's certainly not nice.

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