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No, Shannon said that she'd recommended some holistic doctors to him and he hadn't taken her up on it, but his new doctor sounded promising.  Then she scolded them for even questioning his cancer. But, it's all opinion upon watching, which makes these forums so enjoyable :).

No, Shannon found him a Dr that does both, traditional western medicine and holistic medicine, at a leading cancer treatment facility. If it were just the holistic stuff then I could see them kindly blowing her off but this Dr did both. She asked "Why would someone fake Cancer" and said that she believed him even though she was questioning why they did not see the Dr she found him.

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A Tweet from Shannon:'  To the cruel haters.  U are seeing  my marriage less than 6 mos after my husband fully committed to our marriage. Give me a break I am human.

Call me strange but isn't your husband supposed to fully commit to your marriage on the day you get married?

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I know that David eventually confessed about his cheating on Shannon, but did he really have to go into this much detail about it?  Did he really have to divulge that he banged his side piece on Shannon's birthday?  He could have just said that he cheated and left it at that.  He didn't need to tell Shannon about every single meeting did he?  Did he also tell her about every position they did it in and how many times he made her cum?  Sheesh!  Talk about over disclosing!  smdh

Normally I would I agree with you but Shannon isn't normal.  She probably demanded to know about every moment he was with her and, yuk, every freaking detail of what they did.  Yeah, he could have lied about being with her on Shannon's birthday but I think he knows her MO and it was just better to tell her the truth.

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I pray to gawd David's name isn't on that Ashley Madison site.

I wonder if we will find out that Brook's was a member of that site and used Vicki's credit cards! LOL

 

Normally I would I agree with you but Shannon isn't normal.  She probably demanded to know about every moment he was with her and, yuk, every freaking detail of what they did.  Yeah, he could have lied about being with her on Shannon's birthday but I think he knows her MO and it was just better to tell her the truth.

I agree, after all, this is the same woman that demanded David write a list of all the restaurants he took the mistress to.

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No, Shannon said that she'd recommended some holistic doctors to him and he hadn't taken her up on it, but his new doctor sounded promising.  Then she scolded them for even questioning his cancer. But, it's all opinion upon watching, which makes these forums so enjoyable :).

I am watching last week's episode Shannon is adamant that Brooks has cancer and wonders how anyone can question it.  The doctor she referred him to was an oncologist at City of Hope that believes in certain dietary rules as part of treating the cancer.

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Wait, another sweet ditty I nearly missed -- did Tams pay that nearly 8 thou down payment on the rental (at least I think it was a rental) in OC for rat-face Ryan, his fiance & her brood?  Oy, he's like 30 & now she's not only still supporting him, but also his baby, his baby mama & her 3 kids?  Does this fucking loser weasel rat-face work?  

 

So Tams seems afraid to tell Eds she's supporting Ryan.  Why?  She's the one making all the big Bravo dough.  Not Eds.  Why should he have any say how she's spending this dough.  It's her dough.  Oh & anyone think Tams is actually gonna sell a house?  Yeah, right.  Suppressing chortles, giggles & chuckles.

 

That house Tams showed Meghan?  Oh man, that place was way, way, way out of asshole Jimmy's league.  Dream on, Meghan & Tams.  Um, has Tams ever sold a house -- ever?

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So glad they gave us a bathroom update. I was about to build a McMansion with 14 bathrooms, but I wouldn't want to be obnoxious or anything!

Really the number of bathrooms is what is going to make the Dubrow's new house over the top?! Not the fact that's it's bigger than a small country!

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From Shannon's blog.  Sorry but this cracked me up:

 

To be seated at a table right next to a loud bar where there were stools and not even chairs, was not close to what I expected. I hate that I look like a spoiled brat, that nothing is good enough.

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In all fairness to Shannon, I believe that she had ordered short ribs, and I will have to agree with her, that at times, they can be very greasy. I make them quite often, and order them at a couple of our favorite restaurants, with differing results each time. Sometimes, they are wonderful, rich and flavorful. Other times, they can be more greasy and stringy.

I know what short ribs are, but Shannon didn't seem to know. She said that there was fat on them. David said that they were short ribs. Then Shannon said when she makes ribs all of the fat cooks off. I don't think that she's familiar with the different cuts. Anyone who is as concerned with her weight and calories as she is would never order short ribs if she knew what they were. Short ribs are delicious, but their rich fatty unctuousness is not for calorie counters.

I've said before that if Brooks and Vicki didn't want speculation they should politely thank folks for their suggestions and say that Brooks is going to continue with the treatment he's discussed with his doctor and treatment team. But all of his soliciting names and referrals and not following up makes it seem like he doesn't want to get better or is faking his illness. He seems to have asked for a referral from Shannon and she did a warm handoff. At the very least, he should have let Shannon know that he wasn't going to go with her specialist.

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OK, so Meghan says she doesn't know who Heather Locklear is?  If she was a teen I could buy that.  Er, are ya pretending to be a teen now, Meghan?  Meh, it's more like she's just clueless & stupid.  I could sure buy that as the reason Meghan doesn't know who Heather Locklear & Tommy Lee are.

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I know what short ribs are, but Shannon didn't seem to know. She said that there was fat on them. David said that they were short ribs. Then Shannon said when she makes ribs all of the fat cooks off. I don't think that she's familiar with the different cuts. Anyone who is as concerned with her weight and calories as she is would never order short ribs if she knew what they were. Short ribs are delicious, but their rich fatty unctuousness is not for calorie counters.

I've said before that if Brooks and Vicki didn't want speculation they should politely thank folks for their suggestions and say that Brooks is going to continue with the treatment he's discussed with his doctor and treatment team. But all of his soliciting names and referrals and not following up makes it seem like he doesn't want to get better or is faking his illness. He seems to have asked for a referral from Shannon and she did a warm handoff. At the very least, he should have let Shannon know that he wasn't going to go with her specialist.

To be honest, I don't think Brooks or Vicki asked Shannon for any Dr. referral, I think she, Shannon,did that all on her own. Vicki did tell Shannon that it was Brooks decision and she would support his choice no matter what, I think this happened at the "median" encounter at Vicki's house shortly after she buried her mother.

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Crooks "makes it all about Vicki" and she loves it? I'm pretty sure Don tried to do that all the time and Vicki just wanted to work, be off with the girls, etc.

So sick of hearing how whine-cer is such a wonderful man who loves her like nobody else ever has.

On the Tamra end, did she really congratulate Rapey on being an OC Man? Last I checked, a man that age isn't taking money from Mommy and can provide a home for his family and a wedding for the mother of his child.

HA! Shannon has expectations, but "they're not high?"

I realize a lot of people here crush on David. I don't find him to be anything special, even pre-affair. So he slept his wife and mistress on the same day. I can't stand him more for telling Shannon that, than for actually doing it. Dude is one sick mofo who gets off on the mindfxck.

Megan doesn't listen to old lady rock, but dresses like a broken down, starving flapper?

Good gawd, these people.

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No, Shannon found him a Dr that does both, traditional western medicine and holistic medicine, at a leading cancer treatment facility. If it were just the holistic stuff then I could see them kindly blowing her off but this Dr did both. She asked "Why would someone fake Cancer" and said that she believed him even though she was questioning why they did not see the Dr she found him.

 

I just watched that scene again On Demand (No FF allowed, so it took forever to get to it). Although Shannon does seem to question whether he has his medical records on hand or not, she says in her TH, "Meghan is completely out of line; Brooks is sick, he has cancer.  How could anyone question something like that?".

 

That said, Meghan said even more about Brooks than I remembered.  When Shannon said, " He's had this cancer twice before and it came back again, I can't imagine that he would..." (obviously the last line would have been "fake cancer") - knowing full well what Shannon was about to say, Meghan piped in with "I can totally imagine it!" meaning she thinks Brooks is a liar.  Then, when Tamra continued manipulating the situation by bringing up the 'had, have' debacle, asking (in a fake, sweet baby voice, saying she didn't mean to bring it up again - yeah right) if anyone heard it, Meghan again jumped in and exclaimed "I sure did!! YUP!".

 

Yeah, Meghan, you totally care about Brooks - enough to repeatedly insinuate that he's a liar and he's lying about his cancer!  Vicki may be a screaming, ranting bitch at times, but she's right about this one.

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I'm thinking that David probably has taken his side piece to every nice restaurant in OC and Shannon made him give her a list so that they don't go to any of them anymore ever so the playing field has been reduced immensely!

LOL!

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Good grief!! I used to like Shannon, what the hell happened to her?  I can (almost) understand why David would look for another woman to fool around with because I'm starting to see just how much of a debbie-downer Shannon can be. I couldn't believe the pity party she threw for herself at the pub-style restaurant David took her and the kids to. She complained about the restaurant, the fat on the meat, and she made a face as if the meat she took a sliver of was goat meat. She made absolutely no attempt to make it a fun family time with the kids.

 

Meghan and Shannon have been twits about Brooks' cancer and I wish they would stop already. Bravo should put an end to the scripting of cancer into each episode. Cancer isn't something to take lightly and the way they keep obsessing about Brooks Ayers and whether he has cancer or doesn't have cancer or tell him he should see their personal psychic or healer or drink a blender full of goji berries, spirulina and wheat grass to cure his cancer IS NOT THEIR BUSINESS!

 

And stupid Tamra and her "I have 51% of Cut Fitness Eddie, and you have 49%". She's doing just about everything she can to emasculate the poor guy and he's Mexican and they do NOT like being controlled by any woman.

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David had to have chosen that restaurant as a passive-aggressive FU. I don't even know Shannon and I'd have known she wouldn't like it. But would it kill her to pretend to be grateful and happy in front of the kids? That was so sad hearing Stella tell her mom she was tired of seeing her teary eyes and how she could feel the tension between her and David. She is so unhappy and it's negatively affecting her children... so there goes the reason that people use about staying together for the kids. It's such an unhealthy situation they're living in. Why won't she leave?? I just don't get it.

I don't like how he sneakily tries to pull the kids to his side with his "I'm in trouble again, oh gee I did such-and-such wrong, mom's mad at me" kind of thing. He's done it a few times now. Shannon sees right through it, but the kids don't. They don't need the added burden of choosing sides, even (especially) if it's subconsciously placed in their little heads. I don't like that.

I'm curious about whether him telling Shannon the intimate-then-saw-gf story was him being mean during a fight or him confessing and putting it all out there at her request. I just get the feeling that he's got a really mean side simmering beneath the surface.

 

Idk, that place was really, really loud & I have to be in the mood for that kinda joint.  But I can see 10 year olds loving it, so David coulda picked it cuz of the kids.  The kids even suggested they shoulda gone someplace without 'em.  Oy, Shannon does not exactly have a poker face.  She looked soooo sour & miserable.  Sheesh, if the woman isn't drinking like a fish, she just sucks the joy & life outta anyplace she's in or near.  Ugh, just ugh.  She's really quite unbearable.

 

So wouldn't Shannon have been this way at any place David picked?  Look, she just wanted to give him a hard time & bust his balls cuz he banged his girlfriend after he banged her on her last birthday.  Now wait, wait, wait -- er, just how in the fuckety fuck does she even know this little ditty?  Remember she made him list every restaurant he took the girlfriend to?  Hmmm, maybe she made him list every time he had sex with his girlfriend & each & every particular sex act they did?  Wouldn't be surprised.  This is lunatic Shannon we're talkin' about here.

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I just watched that scene again On Demand (No FF allowed, so it took forever to get to it). Although Shannon does seem to question whether he has his medical records on hand or not, she says in her TH, "Meghan is completely out of line; Brooks is sick, he has cancer.  How could anyone question something like that?".

 

That said, Meghan said even more about Brooks than I remembered.  When Shannon said, " He's had this cancer twice before and it came back again, I can't imagine that he would..." (obviously the last line would have been "fake cancer") - knowing full well what Shannon was about to say, Meghan piped in with "I can totally imagine it!" meaning she thinks Brooks is a liar.  Then, when Tamra continued manipulating the situation by bringing up the 'had, have' debacle, asking (in a fake, sweet baby voice, saying she didn't mean to bring it up again - yeah right) if anyone heard it, Meghan again jumped in and exclaimed "I sure did!! YUP!".

 

Yeah, Meghan, you totally care about Brooks - enough to repeatedly insinuate that he's a liar and he's lying about his cancer!  Vicki may be a screaming, ranting bitch at times, but she's right about this one.

Meghan doesn't care, nor does Tamra and Shannon is pissed that Brooks did not jump at the chance to see the Dr she recommended and questions WHY he hasn't seen her (the DR) in a way to suggest she really doesn't believe him (Brooks). She believes Vicki but I am not so sure she believes Brooks. LOL

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If Shannon and David get divorced, who will she blame all her problems on? Who will listen to her whine about how unhappy she is and how unfair her life is?

 

This woman has so much, much much more than most people would dream of having, and she just is so focused on minuscule things that don't matter. Like the ribs being fatty. Order something else! Your rich! Or David not taking her somewhere nicer. Take the kids home and go out later! These are all solvable problems. I don't see why she chooses to be miserable. Upset because her husband slept with another woman after he slept with her on her birthday. Justifiably horrendous. Yes, be pissed and devastated. But having your whole family with you on your birthday and crying because it is a sports bar? That is nonsense. She has some mental stuff she needs to fix. 

 

Although she is funny. 

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I am close to Shannon's age so when I have expectations about what I want I say them out loud. I don't make my husband guess and get it wrong so I can be disappointed. Not that you should never have surprises but really? Come on Shannon.

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feel like everyone was wrong at that Beador b-day dinner, except the kids. David for not knowing that his wife ain't here for no sports bar, especially on her birthday.

Particularly because Shannon also mentioned that David had promised her something special and yes Shannon could have been gracious but David also immediately went into his "Dad can't do anything right," spiel.

Maybe my family is different but birthday dinners are always nice restaurants, even infants -they aren't going to appreciate it but the adults are- and that restaurant was a casual place you walk into/good happy hour (heck they even seemed to be se sitting at a communal table), not a special place for a celebration.

David should have taken the kids advice and had a bday dinner with just two of them.

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Oh yeah, I can't believe I forgot to include Vicki telling the waiter about her mom dying on my list of things that got on my nerves!  My MiL is also a raging narcissist, and Vicki reminded me of her when she did that.  Many years ago my brother in law was killed in an accident at the age of 35.  While I don't expect her to ever get over losing him by any means, she has actually chosen to wallow in it as a schtick, uses it as her excuse for all of her bad behavior, and has turned it into the thing she brings up to strangers in order to stir up sympathy and pity.  Whenever we are with her in a restaurant, or a store, she always introduces my husband to the server or the cashier as "this is my living son".  I guess because she thinks that's less obvious than saying "ask me about my dead son".  I always feel so bad for the poor stranger that has to maneuver their way through that awkward exchange, as I watch her preen and nod in agreement that her suffering is greater than anyone else's suffering has ever been or ever will be. 

 

I understand loss, I've had plenty, and I know that when you lose someone unexpectedly and suddenly, you go through a period where being out in public around strangers going on with their lives is so surreal, like how can they possibly buy groceries or take their kids to soccer practice when my beloved ____________ just died???  But that period doesn't last for 6 weeks.  By then it is a pain you carry around inside, not out on your sleeve, and most people don't want to bring it up during random errands or nice dinner out and stir up those emotions.  But for people like Vicki, it's not about the pain of loss anymore, it's about being able to use that loss to get attention.  Narcissists voraciously eat and thrive on the pity of others.

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A Tweet from Shannon:' To the cruel haters. U are seeing my marriage less than 6 mos after my husband fully committed to our marriage. Give me a break I am human.

I haven't been following her Twitter, but every time I see the two of them I want scream "get a divorce!" I'm sure there are many people tweeting the same. That's not being a hater. It's watching two people be very miserable together in a very dysfunctional relationship. I know we get a limited view of what their lives are like, but the view we get seems really unhealthy for Shannon and the kids.

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Of course! She kinda said it like she thinks everyone does. She also said 14 bathrooms is obnoxious. OK then.

I thought she was being sarcastic.

David is such an ass. I feel so bad for Shannon. She just needs to divorce him.

Heather is the worst. Who the hell has multiple house warnings before the house is even done? Such a pompous troll. She is building a hotel. So unnecessary.

I'm younger than Meghan. Please shut up, Meghan. Heather Locklear was well known in the 90s.

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It seemed like the old Bravo trick of putting two different RH is the same situation (birthday dinner) and then showing the contrast. please tell me someone from production convinced David that was the only place that would allow filming.  Brooks' choice was wonderful.   I wonder what David has planned for their anniversary - a drive thru.  For those that haven't read it Shannon does apologize for her behavior.  David should be writing a blog why he thought that was a good place to go.  Maybe Hooters doesn't allow cameras. 

 

Has anyone ever used any sugar in short ribs?  I sure haven't. 

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Of course!  She kinda said it like she thinks everyone does.  She also said 14 bathrooms is obnoxious.  OK then.

I'm pretty sure she was being sarcastic.

Heather has a room for her luggage but Shannon needs a whole other home for her baggage.

Rimshot!

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A Tweet from Shannon:'  To the cruel haters.  U are seeing  my marriage less than 6 mos after my husband fully committed to our marriage. Give me a break I am human.

Shut up Shannon! You took the money and put the mess of your life and marriage on the TV screen. We don't need to give you a break. Especially when you are whiney, nitpicky and are ungrateful.

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So Meghan told Vicki that she really cares about Brooks, hence her discussing him.  No, Meghan, you said "The psychic said Brooks doesn't have cancer." (which he did not say).  That's caring about someone battling cancer? She's so nasty and full of shit, I can't even. And please, she's never heard of Motley Crue and Bon Jovi?  Punch another play dumb hole in her youth card. I bet she's just a few punch holes away from another Jimmy-free 2 to 3 weeks!

 

That being said, Tamra started the whole Brooks lying about cancer rumor.  We saw from the first episode when Eddie coughed "Bullshit" when Brooks was talking about it.  In fact, before the season even started, she sneakily put it online, using whispers to others to get it out there on Twitter.  She is the culprit of it all.  Her specialty is starting rumors then sitting back and watching everyone else get reamed out and blamed.  

 

When is Vicki going to wise up and realize that Tamra is the one who causes most of her grief?

 

All of this times 100.

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I'm pretty sure she was being sarcastic.

 

Nope, she didn't sound sarcastic in the least to me.  Er, Shannon is not exactly a joking bundle of giggles, is she?  Ever?  Anyhoo, this listing says her shack has 11 bathrooms.  Maybe she added 2, or it's so big, she discovered another 2 she didn't know she had?

 

http://www.latimes.com/business/realestate/hot-property/la-fi-hotprop-shannon-beador-house-20150205-story.html

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What was with the "This is the house where Heather Locklear fucked some guys" speech? Is that supposed to make me want to live there?

 

When a friend was looking for a house in the LA area, he said every realtor would try to come up with an actor or musician reference.  For what it's worth, he ended up by a place on the same block as the house supposedly inhabited by Sheena of "Sheena is a Punk Rocker" fame.  I am sure Tamra was fed that house tidbit thinking it would add to the appeal rather than make people want to jump in a giant vat of hand sanitizer.  

 

There are just not enough shit ups in the world for this cast.  Meghan has down an excellent job of making herself hated.  Shannon needs a tranquilizer drip.  Tamra did the unpardonable by having rat face rapey Ryan appear.  

 

On a shallow note, as always, what was Lizzy wearing the Heather's house?  Was that a table cloth or curtains she wrapped around her ass?  And Vicki's hot pink dress sometimes looked sort of cute; then it looked like she went to the stylist and forgot to take of the smock.  

 

I am having a lot of construction done at my house right now.  I will not be inviting people over for lunch until after the work is done.  I guess I'm just a little crazy - I don't want friends tripping on nails or uneven surfaces or falling on stairs that don't have handrails or proper treads.  Then again, I don't hate all of my friends. 

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Everyone sees something different, I also thought she was being sarcastic the fact she only has 11 supports that in my opinion.

Yeah no doubt in my mind she was being sarcastic. The way she paused and stared at the camera a mock serious way, knowing the viewer knows she has a shit ton of bathrooms...yeah sarcastic.
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I haven't seen a person whine and complain so much about their birthday since my niece missed her nap and whined all through her 2nd birthday. I just don't understand when adults make such a big deal about their birthday. (Don't even get me started on people who plan their own birthday party).

If Shannon thought she was going to be upset because of the previous birthday then she should have stayed home and off camera.

Those kids would probably jump up and down and cheer if David and Shannon told them they were divorcing.

Has the reunion been filmed? I'm just wondering if Vicki waited until after the reunion to end things with Brooks.

Once again, the comments here are the best part of the show. You guys are the main reason I even watch this crap.

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I agree with those that say Shannon was being sarcastic on the bathroom comment.....she paused as if waiting for the rimshot.....

 

There were some crazy birthday issues going on - first of all, going out on a boat, even in Southern California, in the evening can be really chilly.  Even if Brooks wanted to surprise her, he could have told her to wear flats and bring a jacket, wrap, shawl, something.   Or bring one for her, and don't let her know.  

 

And as far as the restaurant choice, as much as I am loathe to be on David's "side" he might have thought the place would be fun for the family.  It looked like it opened to the outside (not sure where it is) and it could have been a fun place if you weren't out with Debbie Downer.  (And....with that being said....who the heck says "Hey, by the way, I banged my mistress after I banged you on your 50th birthday).......

 

 

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