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An unidentified woman with amnesia is found in Times Square covered with tattoos, including one tattoo bearing an FBI agent's name, and the FBI realizes that these marks are clues to solving crimes in the series premiere of this drama.

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I wasn't a fan.  For me, the pacing was off, and I kept checking the time. Plus, I found the "wide-eyed and childlike amnesiac conveniently becomes kick-ass and expert marksman under pressure" aspect of Bethany's character to be too much, too soon.  If I come back to this, it'll likely be after a few episodes have aired, and I can see if the tone of the show has shifted.  

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I loved Jane Doe's kick-ass abilities! Her fight scene was the highlight of the episode. Great moment when she initially blocked that dude's blow to their mutual surprise. I assume that she will continue to reveal her expertise in a range of ridic fields, and I'll be disappointed if she can't fly a plane, dance the tango, and perform an emergency tracheotomy, preferably all at the same time.

 

It's cheesy and daft but the pilot was pretty tight in terms of action and I enjoyed it. I watched a few episodes of NBC's "Crisis" last year. That show also had emergency terrorist situations every episode, with FBI agents working to resolve the situation, complete with tense control room and black SUVs. But it was a poorly written mess. A terrible show that didn't hang together well. This pilot had none of those issues. It worked.

 

My problem is the characters. The first commenter described Jane Doe as "wide-eyed and childlike" and that nails it. She has no memories but that shouldn't turn her into a simpleton or an infant or a shaky kitten. I'd like to watch a grown-ass woman, please. Big, wet eyes is not a personality. The actress is in her thirties but the way the character is behaving makes her seem much younger, which makes Kurt seem more like a father figure than an equal or a potential love interest. And unfortunately Kurt does nothing for me. Total snore. He's Special Agent Gruff White Male.

 

I want to see what happens next and I love the Jason Bourne element, so I'll watch a couple more episodes. But characters are what keep me tuning into shows in the long run, so this isn't a show I'll keep up with.

 

That said, on the basis of the pilot, I'd bet on its success. Pretty Lady Victim who can do cool shit meets Agent Boring Tough Guy? America will love you.

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My problem is the characters. The first commenter described Jane Doe as "wide-eyed and childlike" and that nails it. She has no memories but that shouldn't turn her into a simpleton or an infant or a shaky kitten. I'd like to watch a grown-ass woman, please. Big, wet eyes is not a personality. The actress is in her thirties but the way the character is behaving makes her seem much younger, which makes Kurt seem more like a father figure than an equal or a potential love interest. And unfortunately Kurt does nothing for me. Total snore. He's Special Agent Gruff White Male.

 

You explained this better than I did.  I like Jaime Alexander, but I wasn't expecting a child-like woman in Bethany.  I really enjoyed her (albeit limited screentime) take on Sif in the Thor movies, so I was expecting more of a woman.  Even in the few flashbacks we got of the character, she didn't feel adult.  I prefer my adult characters to act accordingly, and have a major pet peeve of infantile women.  There are actors who can do the vulnerable, wounded human thing well, but Alexander felt strained and unnatural to me. I'm sure she'll evolve, but it immediately turned me off.      

 

Sullivan Stapleton can actually act, so he felt unnecessarily blunted and dull here.  I assume Kurt has some tragedy in his past that makes him stoic, but I don't care much at the moment.      

 

I watched this one and Minority Report last night, and the latter won out for me.  

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I assume Kurt has some tragedy in his past that makes him stoic

Lol, same. That scene at the end where he was alone at night, drinking whiskey while looking out over the city and brooding was a sure giveaway. At least it wasn't raining. Then he'd really be screwed. ;P

 

And I agree that Dash and Vega in Minority Report were both more appealing and better developed characters than the bland duo on this show.

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Sooo predictable and cliched, it's kind of ridiculous. The plot was a paint by the numbers, and in the very boring way.

 

Well, I guess the main character is mash up pf Sydney Bristow and The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo. Because that one wasn't painfully obvious or anything. Jaimie Alexander doesn't look like a badass at all I'm hpoing they correct that as the series progresses. The tattoos are dreadfully ugly, BTW (Michael from Prison Break's tattoo was at least beautiful).

 

The Australian guy is also very obviously an Australian and he mumbles his lines too much. But he's not terrible. But I think he has a tragic backstory, what with the neck-beard and all, like his wife gone missing, his child died from food poisoning and his dog left him for another man, Poor baby!

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The Australian guy is also very obviously an Australian and he mumbles his lines too much. But he's not terrible. But I think he has a tragic backstory, what with the neck-beard and all, like his wife gone missing, his child died from food poisoning and his dog left him for another man, Poor baby!

 

Noooooo, not the neck-beard! I cannot stop laughing at this. 

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The show is going for "intense". Well, that's a choice. It depends what they make out of it. It isn't groundbreaking, but I prefer "entertaining" shows and the pilot was. If they indeed give resolution all along the road and don't go for nonsensical puzzle a la Lost, it can be a good ride.

 

I loved the actors. I liked the characters (was that Chrissy from Growing Pains in a  possibly regular role? I makes me want to root for the show). The leads have imo enough presence and work well together. What I liked most, aside from the kickass factor, was that the team felt like a team. There was a very nice chemistry between the recurring characters, and I had the feeling that those people had been working together for some time, quite a feat considering it's a pilot. That's why I'm in.

 

I'm glad for the leaked pilot, because didn't look forward to this show and Septermber/October can be so busy for me lately that I probably wouldn't have given the show a try then. Now, I'll be certain to check it out.

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I preferred Lucifer over this, but this pilot showed glimmers of entertainment value. Although I find it hilarious NBC had the thought process of, "Blacklist is doing well. What makes Blacklist do well in the ratings? A mysterious person and a random FBI agent work together! Okay, let's do it again, genders swapped, and have the person who knows about crimes have amnesia and tattoos that know the future!"

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I might watch more later if I have time, but if it turns into a torture-and-dismemberment porn fest for part of each episode, I'm out. The pilot was surprisingly ungraphic with regards to violence, so, maybe they won't go there like so many action crime shows.

Her child-like persona makes sense for someone who has literally just been born again.

She and McGruff have decent chemistry.

I liked the line of the agent who was told to stay with "Jane" at the car: Can I come too, or are you going to roll down a window for me?

More comic relief moments like that would keep me watching.

I wonder if they deliberately leaked the pilot because it's premiering against Castle, which seems like it would have a similar audience.

Later in October Fargo will be airing then too.

Sunday nights are very competitive. If it doesn't do as well as they hope, I wonder if it will go to purgatory Friday.

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What makes Blacklist do well in the ratings?

 

Even they still haven't gotten it with their recent string of flop shows that got cancelled.

 

I'm glad for the leaked pilot, because didn't look forward to this show and Septermber/October can be so busy for me lately that I probably wouldn't have given the show a try then. Now, I'll be certain to check it out.

 

It depends for me, this show seems like it could get old fast.

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I preferred Lucifer over this, but this pilot showed glimmers of entertainment value. Although I find it hilarious NBC had the thought process of, "Blacklist is doing well. What makes Blacklist do well in the ratings? A mysterious person and a random FBI agent work together! Okay, let's do it again, genders swapped, and have the person who knows about crimes have amnesia and tattoos that know the future!"

You think you are joking, but "Time travel, or otherwise fucking with causality" is really the most likely explanation for this, and also a very good way to keep the tattoos relevant for an extended period of in-universe time.

Because a government "asset"  getting nabbed, and then reappearing dramatically without that sequence of events setting of *all of the flags* in the governments data bases? Nuh-hu. Maybe she got removed from the databases the fbi can read the contents off, but doing a massive trawl with her full biometrics would set off alerts to the high heavens in whatever black org employs her. Unless those employers are in fact in the future, and thus not in a position to respond.

 

That also neatly closes of the "Trace the experimental drugs" line of investigation, which should otherwise be very straightforward. Drugs still in trial going missing is not looked on lightly!

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I like Jaimie Alexander and I liked that her character came across as vulnerable and childish at times - makes sense for someone in that particular predicament. I suppose the question which government agency 'lost' her will be addressed further down the line. One of her tattoos seems to be the case file number for something involving Mayfair, i.e. there are already two references to the FBI on her body. It took me by surprise that she was involved in her memory-wipe, that makes her a bit shady. I'm intrigued enough to come back form more. And I liked the chemistry between the leads - that never hurts.

(Got a bit distracted by the actress playing Patterson, Ashley Johnson - she's a dead-ringer for Jesse Weixler. I kept thinking 'That's the reason Robin's not coming back to The Good Wife, she's found a better gig!')

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For me, there is a distinction between vulnerable and infantile/child-like.  The character veered over into infantile, as an example, when she was talking to the doctor, and whined how someone took away her life, and she can't do anything.  The doctor has to tell her to try something as simple as coffee and tea, and then decide which one she likes. 

 

That scene could have still shown her vulnerability and confusion yet still treated her as a woman by just showing her decide which one to try and which she preferred without prompting from the doctor. The show made it a point to state that her "narrative" memory was gone, but "procedural" memory was intact, so it's not like she had to learn how to walk and talk all over again. 

 

Also, when McGrufferson is with her at the safehouse, and says she can tell security to order whatever food she wants, she's all, "I don't know what I like," and looking to him as if HE is supposed to know.  I mean, duh, just order a pizza and see if you like it.  Or just ask for some menus and take a chance.  Good grief.  Even the dramatic breakdown and curl into a fetal position on the floor annoyed me as well.  It was just a lot for me - they were hitting the "she's scared, y'all! And vulnerable!" button unnecessarily hard. 

 

Now when it was time for the team to go and investigate her tattoo clues, she certainly was decisive and assertive then. But just an hour or few hours prior, she didn't know what kind of hot beverage she liked? When she was kicking ass in the apartment building, and McGrufferson yelled at her to stop, she's shaking and looking around like she didn't know what she just did.  Of course she knew.  She may not have known HOW she knew, but she knew full well she was handing those men their asses.  She damn near faints after expertly shooting the man McGrufferson is fighting towards the end of the episode.  Really? Fainting? Yes, she was remembering something, but why it had to manifest in that way felt silly. Hell, Jason Bourne woke up in a foreign country without his memory, and didn't carry on like this.        

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Hell, Jason Bourne woke up in a foreign country without his memory, and didn't carry on like this.

 

Agreed, his memory loss was handled a lot better and wasn't just plot convenient like the pilot is so far.

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I think they should be called tat-clues.

It's hilarious that Blindspot's creator also created Dark Matter. Is he just fascinated with the condition, or what?

I vaguely remember John Doe, but there was another show with an amnesiac protagonist that I liked better, but I can't think of the name of it now, alas.

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I read that they promised a wrap up in one season. I am a sucker for resolution (thus The Blacklist got crossed off my list) and if they can do that with no temptation to go all polar bears or smoke monsters on us, then Yay!

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That ending was predictable.

Jamie Alexander is interesting, and the concept is nutty enough to keep me watching, for now. I mean it's still getting relegated to DVR October 12th, but it will be on my DVR for the time being. I wish Weller wasn't such a stiff, but I suppose he'll loosen up as we go along.

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I thought this was not good, but I will give it a couple more episodes. The whole tattoo premise is so ridiculous that I could not even go along with it for entertainment sake. The lead was very charismatic and fun on Strike Back, WTH, happened to him?

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Decent enough pilot, setting up a Tattoo-Of-The-Week procedural, where the tattoos function like the numbers on Person of Interest.

Only a couple eyeroll moments, the worst being "Do you really think they'd advertise it?" (It being the existence of a female SEAL). Oh come on. The current administration (or the last few administrations, for that matter), would not be able to shut up about a female SEAL.

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Good for a pilot, I thought. It looks kind of "case of the week but with the overarching mystery" that we are getting a lot these days, but I thought it was pretty solid.  

 

I love Jamie Alexander, and I thought she was really compelling here. None of the other characters really made much of an impression, but I like her enough to stick around. 

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The lead was very charismatic and fun on Strike Back, WTH, happened to him?

 

He caught the 'trying to make everything serious' illness.  It would've been better if his character was as fun and charismatic and it probably would've worked better to play off Jane Doe and created a better dynamic between them.

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The tattoo gimmick is just so goddamn dumb.

 

Also, Jaimie Alexander is supposed to be a Navy SEAL or something, which is just dumb.  Seriously, show?  You couldn't have just remained vague with "She's received high level combat training"?  Or used a more secretive special operations or intelligence unit like Civil Affairs Group or the Mission Support Activity (previously known as the Intelligence Support Activity or Sameen Shaw's former haunt), which actually has female operators.

 

Also, the identities of SEAL team members are public knowledge.  It's their missions that are classified.

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Well, I enjoyed it, actually more than I thought I would. I just didn't have high hopes for this tv season, but this show did kind of stand out for me. I'm a sucker for action in both tv and movies. It kind of reminds me of what John Mellencamp said on the Johnny Cash bio I watched the other day, it was about song writing, but I think it applies to tv also, basically borrow an idea here & there, throw in a couple of your own and there you have it. It's kind of cynical, but his point was that there's nothing all that original anymore, I'd say that is more true on tv than in song-writing, but anyway... BTW, Yoko, what starts on Oct 12 ? I think AHS and The Americans both start in Oct., I like to watch both of those live, I'm wondering if either of those are it ( I haven't checked their start dates yet). TIA

 

I'm interested enough to watch this for a while. Is NBC planning to keep it on this timeslot ?

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It was OK.  Jamie is the best thing going for it.  Kurt is so boring and they have no chemistry at all.  They overdid it with the "she's so vulnerable!" stuff, and it feels like they really wish they could show full-blown nudity with all the body shots.  We get it, she's tattooed all over.

 

That stuff wouldn't have bugged me if the plot wasn't so predictable.  Knew she spoke Chinese, knew she would kick the abusive landlord's ass, and so on.  Kurt's whole "do as I say" thing was basically a running joke; anytime he told Jane to stay put, she joined him.  As a whole, Blindspot didn't really hold my interest, I found myself checking my phone a few times.  I'll give it a few weeks, but it's not must see TV at the moment.

 

I'm surprised there wasn't any real scarring from her tattoos.  The doctor said they were all healed.  Even if they're already a few weeks old, shouldn't there be some scars?

 

Forgot something: the doctor who gave Jane the coffee & tea?  Now that's a guy I'd like to see again instead of the painfully bland Stapleton.  Ukweli Roach is certainly a nice incentive to keep watching.

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Jaimie Alexander is pretty much the only reason I tuned in, and is pretty much the main reason I'm sticking around.  Yeah, yeah: being naked and covered in tattoos is certainly a bonus, but I thought her entire performance in this was good and compelling.  The Navy SEAL twist is dumb (especially the covering up part.  No way in hell that would happen.  The government would be boasting about that every chance they got), and I'm not sure they'll find a real plausible reason for the tattoos outside of "Naked tattooed Sif= buzz!", but she's already made me curious about Jane.

 

On the other hand, wow, Kurt Weller might be worst stick in the mud character I've ever seen.  I found him to be uncharismatic and boring at his best, and actually annoying at his worst.  Really was sick of all the times he was trying to keep Jane off the field, even after she showed herself to clearly be an asset.  Mainly though, the character was dull.  And it's petty, but I find it annoying that Sullivan Stapleton is getting top billing over Jaimie.

 

The rest of the cast seemed like your typical side characters and boss played by a veteran actress (Marianne Jean-Baptiste!), but at least Rob Brown's character made me laugh, so I'm already wishing he was the head FBI guy over Kurt.

 

Between this and Minority Report at nine, Monday's sure are the night of "solve crimes before they happen!" on television.

 

I do hope we get more scenes of Jane rediscovering what she likes and dislikes, like the whole coffee/tea scenes.  Still not sure how the whole amnesia thing works (she knows what certain food is, but not how it tastes?), but I doubt it's really suppose to be realistic on any level.

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He caught the 'trying to make everything serious' illness.  It would've been better if his character was as fun and charismatic and it probably would've worked better to play off Jane Doe and created a better dynamic between them.

If I hadn't seen him on Strike Back, I would have put his acting down to "Foreign actor struggles with American accent and forgets how to emote" syndrome, but I don't know. I did think he sucked the life out of the show.

I liked the girl though, but no way is someone with her build a Navy SEAL, even of the female variety. Surprised she didn't speak Chinese with the Chinese woman.

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If I hadn't seen him on Strike Back, I would have put his acting down to "Foreign actor struggles with American accent and forgets how to emote" syndrome, but I don't know. I did think he sucked the life out of the show.

 

I know, that's what made it disappointing.

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I am in the chorus of "There is No Secret SEALs". Besides, if she was such a super-duper secret SEAL, why did she have the Trident tattoo to begin with? Should she not be, secretive? As of not putting that permanent identifier on her body?

 

I like it that the FBI can just barge in to Chao's apartment and kick a locked door without any warrant. As well, Jane assaulted the men inside their property uninvited and just, "It is okay. He is alive. Ambulance is coming." Lastly, from The Following to CSI: Cyber to this show, what it is with FBI agents trying solve time-sensitive cases in a large area by themselves? Do they not know that they have law enforcement manpower from multiple agencies for them to utilize?

 

Looking at Sgt. Damien Scott being an FBI agent, I can not help expecting that when he and Lady Sif are in the safe house that they will strip down and hump right there and then...

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I, too, tuned in for Jaimie Alexander and she buys them a bit of time, but it was pretty meh. And I wish they'd flip Strike Back guys with The Player. If Weller's going to be "dull, serious, stubbly buzzkill," I'd rather look at Philip Winchester.

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I like it that the FBI can just barge in to Chao's apartment and kick a locked door without any warrant. As well, Jane assaulted the men inside their property uninvited and just, "It is okay. He is alive. Ambulance is coming." 

 

Yeah, they basically justified it because the landlord was beating his wife, but Kurt comforting Jane afterwards without any kind of reprimand was too much.  I don't know if she's being treated with kid gloves because they think she can't handle anything, or because she really is too mentally incapacitated to function.  That part bugged me after hearing a voiceover in the next promo with

Kurt saying "She has this innate need to help everyone" which really me rolling me eyes.  In TV land, that often means doing whatever the hell you want regardless of the law, as long as you get the right results.

 

Even the landlord said that he had rights and she couldn't barge into his house.  Dude was a complete scumbag, but he wasn't wrong.  That said, I doubt they'll bring it up again.

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All I came away with was the tatoos must have included permanent eyeliner. 

 

I liked the lead actress, she did well in the action sequences and I enjoyed the scenes with Dr Borden(?) but the character's multi-competence is already verging on Mary-Sue levels.  The Kurt Weller character is a rigid snooze. The plot didn't hold my interest, which is a shame because the concept had potential, too bad the execution was lazy. The thin dialogue didn't help. it often sounded like the kind of stuff little kids yell during "lets pretend" games. Overall, it was boring.

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Not sold yet. The main FBI agent is the weak character here. Redacted file at end a red herring? Contrived but hopefully thought out mystery.

 

Was she in a body stocking with those tatoos? Some scenes you could see a different looking complexion on her neck and face. And a clean seperation of pale vs tan skin at the neck.

 

Another show with only one agent that can save the day.

 

Other Statue of Liberty fight scenes-Remo Williams/Fred Ward?

 

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The mysterious handler is apparently playing both sides...he tattooed  "Bethany Mayfair" and blackmailed the bomber.  So this is either an elaborate Homeland exercise or insidious Palpatine style fakeout to distract the FBI from discovering a secret foreign trade agreement....

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I do hope we get more scenes of Jane rediscovering what she likes and dislikes, like the whole coffee/tea scenes.  Still not sure how the whole amnesia thing works (she knows what certain food is, but not how it tastes?), but I doubt it's really suppose to be realistic on any level.

 

Fish fingers and custard?

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All I came away with was the tatoos must have included permanent eyeliner. 

 

That was my first thought, she came out of the bag with with her eyes lined.

 

I thought it was interesting enough for me to give it a couple more episodes at least. I pretty much guessed she was going to turn out to be some kind of special ops agent who volunteered (or "volunteered") to have this done to her, so no surprise there.

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I guess I'm a sucker for a gimmick -- I'm completely on board when it comes to the tattoos.

 

This had a lot of "pilot-itis", and I did roll my eyes* a few times, but I'm still in for a few more episodes.

 

*Letting Jane Doe go out in the field with them -- Is the Boss going to turn out to be shady?

*As a New Yorker, everything with the subway scenes.

 

Snarky Black Agent can stay. I hope that therapist(?) sticks around.

 

 

Also, Jaimie Alexander is supposed to be a Navy SEAL or something, which is just dumb.  Seriously, show?  You couldn't have just remained vague with "She's received high level combat training"?  Or used a more secretive special operations or intelligence unit like Civil Affairs Group or the Mission Support Activity (previously known as the Intelligence Support Activity or Sameen Shaw's former haunt), which actually has female operators.

 

Also, the identities of SEAL team members are public knowledge.  It's their missions that are classified.

 

I'm thinking the SEAL thing is a fakeout for exactly those reasons.

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Was she in a body stocking with those tatoos? Some scenes you could see a different looking complexion on her neck and face. And a clean seperation of pale vs tan skin at the neck.

I think they use some sort of decals like they did on Wentworth Miller for Prison Break. The full thing takes 7 hours to put on and they don't seem to come off easily. Jaimie Alexander wore a long-sleeved dress to the sweltering Emmys explaining that it helped her cover up some of the stuff still clinging to her skin.

 

I kinda hope the SEAL tattoo turns out to be a red herring - that would be hilarious.

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Disclaimer: I've actually watched the leaked pilot, but I waited to post because I wanted to check a few minutes of the broadcasted episode to see if what bothered me was changed. Alas, it didn't seem to be, which means I am most likely dropping the show. I'll be following the forum for awhile though.

 

The camera work really didn't do it for me, the mix of shaky cam, closeups and different angles with the very quick editing was tiresome. I get that it was meant to convey disorientation/confusion and tension, but it was such a basic, cheap attempt at it. Actually, I found the editing distracting all around, especially the quick cuts in dialogue scenes. And there was shaky cam just as it cut to new scenes - wtf, that shit was truly awful. After less than 10 minutes my head was already fuckin' spinning. I genuinely thought this might change for the broadcasted pilot, because it is such an annoying stylistic choice. Did no one they previewed the episode say anything? I don't have motion sickness and I don't mind shaky cam, but this AND the quick cuts are like a pounding noise during a hangover. I doubt there was any shot longer than a second in the beginning of the episode. Even when the camera didn't move, it zoomed in and out. Was everyone high for the making of this pilot? Did their ADHD medication run out? Did they think they were doing a music video? I don't get it. I don't remember ever seeing anything this extreme in a movie or show.

 

Due to this, characters and plot took a distinct 2nd and 3rd place for me. I thought Jaimie Alexander was good, and everyone else was serviceable, but then again she had the one interesting role in a sea of supporting-no-matter-what-billing-says characters. Sidenote: This is the first time I see her or Sullivan Stapleton, so I had no particular expectations. She is quite easy on the eyes and ears.

 

I have no opinion on the plot; it's just the pilot. Besides, following the plot further hinges not on how interesting I find it but in the technical aspects of the show because, no matter how good everything else is, I won't watch a show that feels like strobe lights.

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