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Okay, I want the killer dead, now. That hurt more than than Cal and Chloe on Harper's Island

 

Now, I know nothing about farming, so does that Chainsaw on wheels Will was riding on have any practical use in farming?

That death did hurt! This show is doing great on making Audience like Noah and Audrey. And UGH you brought up Cal and Chloe! Their deaths still make me upset!

Can I comment on how dumb Emma sounded when she told Audrey "well he said not to trust her" SHE'S YOUR MOM HES A PYSCHO YOU IDIOT

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Again, what a lame death. Riley couldn't kick the Killer in the face once or twice while scurrying up the ladder? But yea, I agree that this death hurt. She was such a harmless character, and the writers did a pretty good job in making us like her and budding relationship with Noah. And to kill her in way in which she knew she was slowly dying there on the roof? That's a punch in the gut. 

 

The rest of the episode, however, felt a lot a like a less well-written episode of Goosebumps. And that's not to say that Goosebumps was well-written. I just do not care about most of the stuff that occurs between the opening death sequence and any subsequent death scene later in the episode. Nothing about the interactions at school is interesting or suspenseful, likely because the dialogue is one-note and often boring. It doesn't help that most of these kids cannot believably deliver a line to save their lives (pun intended). 

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I think the worst part of Riley's death was she died on the phone with Noah, pleading for help.

Oh yeah without a doubt

I have to say, in a twisted way, I like that Emma inadvertently picked Riley as the killer's target.

When she texted him NOT to hurt Brooke I was like " he has Tyler's phone and you just got Riley Killed"

 

Again, what a lame death. Riley couldn't kick the Killer in the face once or twice while scurrying up the ladder? But yea, I agree that this death hurt. She was such a harmless character, and the writers did a pretty good job in making us like her and budding relationship with Noah. And to kill her in way in which she knew she was slowly dying there on the roof? That's a punch in the gut. 

 

The rest of the episode, however, felt a lot a like a less well-written episode of Goosebumps. And that's not to say that Goosebumps was well-written. I just do not care about most of the stuff that occurs between the opening death sequence and any subsequent death scene later in the episode. Nothing about the interactions at school is interesting or suspenseful, likely because the dialogue is one-note and often boring. It doesn't help that most of these kids cannot believably deliver a line to save their lives (pun intended).

Considering the Killer stabbed and slashed her leg more than once I don't think she had the strength to kick him

Watching Noah and Audrey's love interests die just made me kinda angry cause I'm pretty positive we will have to watch Emma be torn between two guys. I HATE Triangles. And I bet we get the joy(Ugh) of seeing Erzria the MTV version until either the teacher, Brooke or Both meet their grisly ends

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Considering the Killer stabbed and slashed her leg more than once I don't think she had the strength to kick him

 

I actually meant that she should have kicked him before he slashed her legs. As with the other previous kills this season, it was the typical "victim sees the killer, victim runs from the killer, victim dies" formula, which is getting kind of stale. There's no reason the show can't choreograph more interesting death scenes. 

 

I could see Noah being in cahoots with one of either Jake, Will, or Kieran, but his relationship with Riley appeared to be completely genuine. The show could always pull out the twist that he's really a heartless bastard, but I haven't seen any hints of that yet. Both his friendship with Audrey and his feelings for Riley have been portrayed as nothing but sincere and, unsurprisingly, those relationships have been my two favorite. I'm disappointed one of those is over. 

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I have to say, in a twisted way, I like that Emma inadvertently picked Riley as the killer's target.

 

Not so "inadvertantly".  WTF did she think he meant?  After she hung up with Brooke ("the bad girl", duh), she needed to call Riley and tell her to be careful, then tell the sheriff to high-tail it back to the station (since he took Every. Damn. Cop with him).

 

They're going to find Tyler's burnt-to-a-crispy-critter body in the car at the bridge.

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That was awful!
 
I mean, I love this show, but now I'm so sad. I would have picked Brooke, but you knew it'd be the "good girl." Not that I don't get a kick out of Brooke.
 
I'd forgotten that Tyler's head was in the pool. Killer must have taken it with him. If the rest of him is in the car along with the head, then they could identify him through dental records.
 
I'm interested to learn more about what the boys are up to.

Can I comment on how dumb Emma sounded when she told Audrey "well he said not to trust her" SHE'S YOUR MOM HES A PYSCHO YOU IDIOT

 

That was such a dumb statement Emma made, I had to rewind to see if I heard it right. Seriously, 16 years of trusting your mom who loves you and raised you, and would kill to protect you, apparently doesn't offset the fact she might have kept some things from you? Even though you heard her say she didn't tell you these things to protect you? And that she's considering telling you anyway? Emma deserved a slap for that. I also didn't like her snotty comeback to her mom about not telling her everything when her mom WAS telling her the truth. Kids these days...

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I loved that when the kids got texts from "Tyler" asking them to meet him somewhere, they took those phones straight to the cops, had them trace the texts, and set in motion a whole capture plan. It all came to nothing, of course, but I'm glad they tried.

 

The kid who plays Jake is a horrible actor. He makes the rest of them look like Meryl Streep.

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I loved that when the kids got texts from "Tyler" asking them to meet him somewhere, they took those phones straight to the cops, had them trace the texts, and set in motion a whole capture plan. It all came to nothing, of course, but I'm glad they tried.

What I like is that this fiasco gives them a somewhat plausible reason for not trusting the cops for the rest of the season.

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What I like is that this fiasco gives them a somewhat plausible reason for not trusting the cops for the rest of the season.

 

I think they've got that reason already because wow, is the chief/sheriff Barney Fife?  The last last last thing you want to do, when your coroner has just told you that you are looking at a murder investigation, is to waste The First 24 Hours of your precious First 48 Hours of investigational time sitting around on your hands, because gawrsh gee willikers, "people need time to grieve".  And the coroner just nods her head like a pretty meat puppet, like she hasn't had some kind of coroner educational procedure on what happens after you think you've discovered a murder, which involves "The first 48 hours of an investigation are critical, and most cases which go beyond this benchmark without being solved, are in fact never solved as a trail goes cold" (paraphrase but I'm sure that's the gist).  

 

Don't get me started on why Teach wouldn't do the searching for Brooke's naughty photo before the students came to class and when he was alone, lol.

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That was awful!

 

I mean, I love this show, but now I'm so sad. I would have picked Brooke, but you knew it'd be the "good girl." Not that I don't get a kick out of Brooke.

 

I'd forgotten that Tyler's head was in the pool. Killer must have taken it with him. If the rest of him is in the car along with the head, then they could identify him through dental records.

 

I'm interested to learn more about what the boys are up to.

 

That was such a dumb statement Emma made, I had to rewind to see if I heard it right. Seriously, 16 years of trusting your mom who loves you and raised you, and would kill to protect you, apparently doesn't offset the fact she might have kept some things from you? Even though you heard her say she didn't tell you these things to protect you? And that she's considering telling you anyway? Emma deserved a slap for that. I also didn't like her snotty comeback to her mom about not telling her everything when her mom WAS telling her the truth. Kids these days...

Oh my god that statement was so dumb! And as you pointed out she overheard her mother saying she's trying to protect her and wanted to tell her. I was hoping the writers would have had Audrey point out that she doesn't know or should trust this psycho over her mother . That silly scene then when he calls her later she is rightfully on her mother's side

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I could see Noah being in cahoots with one of either Jake, Will, or Kieran, but his relationship with Riley appeared to be completely genuine. The show could always pull out the twist that he's really a heartless bastard, but I haven't seen any hints of that yet. Both his friendship with Audrey and his feelings for Riley have been portrayed as nothing but sincere and, unsurprisingly, those relationships have been my two favorite. I'm disappointed one of those is over.

Well in the original Scream, Tatum was Matthew Lillard's girlfriend and that didn't keep her off the gut them list.

I can't believe I'm still watching, but it is mindless and unlike unReal, not every character is a vile, cesspool of a human being devoid of any humanity or worthwhile qualities, so I guess I'll stick with it a little longer.

I am curious about why Audrey had the picture if Brandon James on her board. Until I see proof otherwise, I think it's the Sheriff because no one could be that stupid and incompetent.

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Don't get me started on why Teach wouldn't do the searching for Brooke's naughty photo before the students came to class and when he was alone, lol.

Right? Go in early, jackass!

 

That's a shame that they killed off the second-most sympathetic (and only nonwhite) character on the show. I mean I know we have to believe that the more likable people might die for us to get invested, but they're running out of likable people.

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Do we know exactly what shady business Will and Jake and Tyler and possibly some other fratty douches whose names I don't know are involved with? 

 

The Will character could actually have been potentially interesting, the earnest, working class 'good guy' with such a dark side, only 1) they hammered us over the head with what a horrid human being he is way too quickly, so rather than a semi-intriguingly ambiguous character he's just an unmitigated ass and we're waiting for  the other characters to figure it out and 2) the actor is awful. 

 

I wasn't as into this episode, but I agree that Riley's death was a bummer. The list of characters who I even semi-like just got chopped down to two: Noah and Audrey. 

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Do we know exactly what shady business Will and Jake and Tyler and possibly some other fratty douches whose names I don't know are involved with?

 

Only that it involves Nina, and recording her without her knowledge through her laptop's webcam. The end of the pilot had Jake moving a video of Nina in a Bikini dancing to music a file on his computer.

 

My guess is they were selling the videos, since they had a stockpile of cash from this, which, depending on the age of the characters, means they are possibly involved in Child Porn.

 

These guys cannot get slaughtered fast enough.

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I still don't care about none of these characters.

 

That murder wasn't crushing for me because I gave almost no shits about her. She was harmless and didn't deserve to die but I was not moved.

 

I was staring right at the screen and barley remember what happened because I could barely gather the attention needed to follow.

 

This show just is not good. It's Pretty Little Liars light and that is a extremely dumb show too. But, at least, for a while I cared about the girls.

 

I totally thought this would ending up shutting Scream Queens when it comes out this fall but I can't see how that show will be worse than this.

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Don't get me started on why Teach wouldn't do the searching for Brooke's naughty photo before the students came to class and when he was alone, lol.

Maybe the room belongs to another teacher earlier in the day. IMHO, the photo wasn't worth the effort searching.

 

 

Nothing about the interactions at school is interesting or suspenseful, likely because the dialogue is one-note and often boring. It doesn't help that most of these kids cannot believably deliver a line to save their lives (pun intended).

The claim is that shows hire actors in their mid-twenties to play high school students in order to get better actors. Didn't work, and I think it's detracting from the portrayal of a student-teacher relationship to use an actress nearly 25 paired with a teacher played by a youthful 32 yo.

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I think they've got that reason already because wow, is the chief/sheriff Barney Fife?  The last last last thing you want to do, when your coroner has just told you that you are looking at a murder investigation, is to waste The First 24 Hours of your precious First 48 Hours of investigational time sitting around on your hands, because gawrsh gee willikers, "people need time to grieve".  And the coroner just nods her head like a pretty meat puppet, like she hasn't had some kind of coroner educational procedure on what happens after you think you've discovered a murder, which involves "The first 48 hours of an investigation are critical, and most cases which go beyond this benchmark without being solved, are in fact never solved as a trail goes cold" (paraphrase but I'm sure that's the gist).  

 

Don't get me started on why Teach wouldn't do the searching for Brooke's naughty photo before the students came to class and when he was alone, lol.

This is one of the reasons I think the sheriff is in on it. I think his son is one of the other killers and that would explain why he was ballsy enough to commit a murder at the damned police station of all places. 

 

I felt bad for Riley but she was stupid to go and meet him in the back. Why did she trust him so much? 

 

I don't know why Brooke would have her phone on vibrate. You'd think she'd be checking it while she was waiting for him. 

 

We spend a lot of time reading text messages on this show.

 

Agreed that Emma is dumb for not wanting to trust her mom because the freaking killer told her not to. 

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So dumb on so many levels, and I agree, the acting is horrid (even poor little Riley).  Brooke, there's a psycho running around killing your classmates -- now might not be the best time to put on blindfolds and handcuffs!
 
Emma is getting texts from the killer, but doesn't think it might be worth mentioning, even after she knows Riley is in danger.
 
Geez.
 

We spend a lot of time reading text messages on this show.


Some, like Tyler's, are really hard to read.

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Don't trust Noah. I think he was on the phone with Riley to have an alibi. He is working with someone.

I'm actually more suspicious of Audrey than him, who coincidentally vanished from the rest of the episode after being the one to convince Emma to text back to the killer. I guess they could be working together in a "revenge of the nerds" type of thing. It does raise the question of why kill Rachel (was that Audrey's girlfriend name) but I do find it interesting the killer tried to make it appear like Rachel killed herself rather than leaving her in an obviously murdered pool of blood like Nina and now Riley. It'd be interesting if they are guilty since they're the only two, along with Riley who's now sadly dead, I actually like and care about.

I totally thought this would ending up shutting Scream Queens when it comes out this fall but I can't see how that show will be worse than this.

Considering Scream Queens is a Ryan Murphy show, I'm willing to make a wager on that. Oh I'm sure it'll start off well enough but it will very quickly go down the crapper. Difference is, I don't think the creators and people behind this show are trying to pretend it's anything but a fun, summer show. Ryan Murphy and company though will be arrogant enough to think Scream Queens is some high standard and when it inevitably becomes shit, it will not be because their writing sucks but because the viewers and audience are just too stupid to appreciate their brilliance.

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This is one of the reasons I think the sheriff is in on it. I think his son is one of the other killers and that would explain why he was ballsy enough to commit a murder at the damned police station of all places. 

 

I felt bad for Riley but she was stupid to go and meet him in the back. Why did she trust him so much? 

 

I don't know why Brooke would have her phone on vibrate. You'd think she'd be checking it while she was waiting for him. 

 

We spend a lot of time reading text messages on this show.

 

Agreed that Emma is dumb for not wanting to trust her mom because the freaking killer told her not to.

Sheriff and his Son Kieran being the killers are very good possibilitys. Something about Kieran screams Billy Loomis and his motive in the first movie. Kierans job is to get Emma on his side/seduce her(it looks like him and Emma getting ready to Fuck in a open field in the season preview) and his dad is dating Emma's mom if I recall correctly. UGH Emma saying that stupid line to Audrey about Killer telling her not to trust her mom still angers me and yes she's being so dumb not telling anyone about her getting messages from the Killer though that's probably chalked up to she doesn't want any one though she basically sent Poor Riley to her grave.

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Re: Riley's death. I am more annoyed that she was killed so early than anything. She probably had the most potential for me to get attached to her but I didn't know her enough to feel really sad about it. 

 

I do think Audrey/Noah might be an interesting killer duo. Maybe they both decided to "sacrifice" someone to appear sympathetic? These were new relationships after all. Maybe a bit too convenient?

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I do think Audrey/Noah might be an interesting killer duo. Maybe they both decided to "sacrifice" someone to appear sympathetic? These were new relationships after all. Maybe a bit too convenient?

 

In a Strangers on a Train ("criss-cross") kind of way, where Noah kills Rachel (he'd have the upper-body strength that Audrey lacks) and Audrey kills Riley (giving Noah an alibi).

 

I don't know though -- the sheriff's station was conveniently empty, leaving Riley to fend for herself.  I think I'm leaning more to the father-son duo.

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I can definitely see the father/son combo being guilty. Because the one thing not convincing me of Audrey/Noah is their physical strength. Yes the killer has gotten most of the victims off guard making it harder for them to defend themselves but there is clearly, I think, an imposing physical strength in the killer. And that would definitely match the son and dad.

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Ryan Murphy and company though will be arrogant enough to think Scream Queens is some high standard and when it inevitably becomes shit, it will not be because their writing sucks but because the viewers and audience are just too stupid to appreciate their brilliance.

The more I learn about Scream Queens, the more I wish they'd have brought back the reality competition of the same name instead.

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I was under the impression that the Sheriff wasn't going to announce the murder investigation until the day after the funeral, not that he was going wait to start the investigation until the next day.

 

But how's an investigation work, if it has to be a secret in the interim lest people know it's not a suicide?  Because one would think it does, once you start to tell people, any chunk of information starts leaking out.  You can't ask people in the community (your potential murder leads) to report "anything suspicious they might have seen" in connection with Rachel, without arousing their suspicion, because what's suspicious about someone hanging herself while alone, the current putative cover story?  I should think any person who's ever seen a CSI type show would immediately think the sheriff is alluding to Rachel being framed as a fake suicide, with a locution like that.  Assuming the sheriff (a) believes Emma's mum and (b) literally knows nada, for all he knows it was a stranger/drifter murderer, with someone who might already be gone, and certainly blow the town or even state, within a 24- or even 16-hour allotment, while the sheriff is being all nicey-wicey and "letting people grieve".  

 

I'm no law enforcement professional myself, but it seems to me that the sheriff's proposition in some jurisdictions, might even come under the heading of "interfering with an investigation".  For all the sheriff knows, the murder itself happened in a semi- or wholly-public place, in which case the public's actual impressions of real-life weird situations in the vicinity of the deceased around that time frame, is important.  WE know that no one saw anything public and thus couldn't enlighten the sheriff, because we saw the murder happen; but the sheriff's brain shouldn't have access to the fact that there were no eyewitnesses.  Even then, sometimes people might have seen the killer buying a rope, etc., and not register it until they were told by a police investigation, that they should remember or pay attention to this innocuous purchase.

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Well apparently BOTH my super couples got killed off before the fourth episode. This show is either really going to suck or the rally going to blow my mind. It's 50/50 right now.

I'm thinking it's obvious Emma will lose one of the TWO boys in her life probably Will since we seen a scene in the trailer where Her and Kieran have to have each other IN THE MIDDLE OF A OPEN FIELD and the teacher will probably die too. It's only fair since Noah and Audrey can't be happy :(

Well apparently BOTH my super couples got killed off before the fourth episode. This show is either really going to suck or the rally going to blow my mind. It's 50/50 right now.

You mean the triangle and Brooke banging her teacher aren't interesting to you lol?

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Well in the original Scream, Tatum was Matthew Lillard's girlfriend and that didn't keep her off the gut them list.

I agree that Brooke seems to be a Tatum-ish character and I think they went with killing Riley over Brooke because they're saving one of the "creative" deaths for her. Tatum got a death by garage door so I know it isn't going to be simple with Brooke. She'll probably get a Sarah Michelle Gellar in I Know What You Did Last Summer chase with a more gruesome ending. 

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I agree that Brooke seems to be a Tatum-ish character and I think they went with killing Riley over Brooke because they're saving one of the "creative" deaths for her. Tatum got a death by garage door so I know it isn't going to be simple with Brooke. She'll probably get a Sarah Michelle Gellar in I Know What You Did Last Summer chase with a more gruesome ending.

Oh yes I do think Brooke will get a more gruesome death.

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Could the fact this is a show on MTV be the reason the kills themselves have been rather tame compared to the movies?

I can't say I'm a big watcher of MTV's shows, so I'm not sure how they compare, violence wise to something like Teen Wolf.

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Oh great, first Emma made Rachel's death all about her and now she's going to do the same with Riley. "I didn't mean to choose!" Gag me, bitch. Between that and her mouthing off to her mom I'm hoping the major twist will be that Emma, the putative heroine, bites it before the end.

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Forget Emma, does anyone like Will and Jake? Anyone? MTV released a

featuring them on their YouTube channel (I'm not spoiler-tagging that because it is boring and pointless and gives nothing away), and the comments there are all stuff like, "If Riley had to die then these 2 idiots better be next" and "What type of sneak peek is this? I don't give a shit about these two tbh" and "I can't believe Riley died and these assholes are still there." The writers said, via Noah, that they want to make us care about these people, and with a few exceptions (Riley, Noah, and Audrey) they're not doing a very good job. (Although I guess that actively rooting for most of the characters to die is caring about them... in a way.)
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Jake and Will have had the least development so far, but as far as caring about them, I think that ship sailed with the implied porn ring they had going with Nina as the unknowing star.

Though, like you said, a feeling of "that asshole deserved it" is a type of investment in the character.

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Kieran continues to be the most disturbing guy on the show for me. Not only because the actor doesn't look like he belongs in a high school but also the way he obsessed over Emma (staring at her and Will in front of the lockers, suspiciously rejects Emma's suggestion to come over and telling Emma to play a song for him?) and kept "accidentally" feeding her new info about her mother's past ("Your dad's name is Kevin, right?"). That's what the killer's trying to do.

Also, very sloppy of the killer not to climb up and finish Riley off. I mean what if Riley somehow knew how to apply pressure and stop the bleeding?

But I find myself looking forward to this show every week.

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That's the third female in a row to be killed, time for a dude Mr Ghostface.  I hope the show doesn't limit itself to killing teenagers, I would love to see pervy teacher get his.

 

Like a poster previously mentioned, Noah's phone chat with Riley while she was being offed gives him an alibi, but I'm still convinced that the killer is actually a team of two killers ala Scream 1 and Scream 2.  So Noah is still my top suspect, only because he (and the actress who plays Audrey, whom I still call Bullet) are the best actors on the show.

 

It was also mentioned that Audrey lives in a foster home, could she be Brandon James' daughter?

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Oh great, first Emma made Rachel's death all about her and now she's going to do the same with Riley. "I didn't mean to choose!" Gag me, bitch. Between that and her mouthing off to her mom I'm hoping the major twist will be that Emma, the putative heroine, bites it before the end.

I don't know im thinking the theory that SHE is the Killer or ONE of them might hold some weight. Her line about the Killer telling her not to trust her mom(So stupid) and hiding the texts plus in the preview her wearing the hood and holding the knife. I just don't know. But this show is keeping me interested and I'm hoping it's resolved end of the season and a new who dunit happens in season 2

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It was also mentioned that Audrey lives in a foster home, could she be Brandon James' daughter?

 

Wouldn't any offspring of Brandon James' be older than these characters, though?

 

His Massacre and death was on Halloween 1994 (It was confirmed that it all happened on the same night, correct?) Unless he somehow survived and had a secret daughter after that night, Audrey should be too too young.

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Wouldn't any offspring of Brandon James' be older than these characters, though?

 

His Massacre and death was on Halloween 1994 (It was confirmed that it all happened on the same night, correct?) Unless he somehow survived and had a secret daughter after that night, Audrey should be too too young.

Could a character be faking their age? 

 

It's something I've considered with Kiernan.

 

I also feel like this is a situation where a secret (and disgruntled) sibling of Emma's could pop up. 

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