Social Media and Behind the Scenes: AKA Everything Else Not "News and Media"

[catrox14]

Jared was also in Cry Wolf, The Christmas Cottage, Flight of the Phoenix, & New York Minute

Jensen was in Ten Inch Hero which was a cute indy film

[bijoux]

My feelings for Malcolm aside, Barrowman really seems like a swell fella.

[bijoux]

[bijoux]

Video recording of the answers from the above tweets. SA also shares that 209 was supposed to end with Barry struck by lightning until Berlanti came in to remind everyone that it was an episode of Arrow and the MSF and it is actually supposed to end on Arrow stuff, i.e. Oliver putting on the mask and the Slade reveal. I wish he'd give his input more often.

[Velocity23]

[Belinea]

So does this mean everybody's in for 5 more seasons?

[Starfish35]

If my calculations are right (assuming they continue to have 23 episodes a season), the 200th episode would be episode 9.16.

I don't know that I see the show running that long, but maybe.  *shrugs*

Edited January 8, 2017 by Starfish35

[Delphi]

I think the whose more "successful" comes with a lot of criteria that you need to take into account though.  Including talent,  looks and desire. 

For example Tom Welling I'm sure wants more work,  but I'm sure people instantly think teenage Superman from that we show. 

Then there's actresses like Busy.   She's talented but probably not considered Hollywood beautiful even though I think she's gorgeous.   But she waits for jobs she likes because let's be real even a bad actor makes more than the rest of us and she's happy being a mom. 

Then there are your breakouts,  cw has had a few but really they are all from the wb/UPN merger.   EBR has the talents and the beauty to be that break out star but I'm not sure she's all that willing to leave Canada. 

Then there is Katie,  who I normally defend.   But, no,  she's too old to have a breakout role and her ability won't help her because she is no Streep.  She needs all the work she can get and being a diva, which she was, btw,  is not the way to stay employed.

[insomniadreams88]

Maybe the goal should be to get to 150 episodes before thinking of 200. 9 seasons of a show is impressive/somewhat rare these days. 

[apinknightmare]

Nothing wrong with aiming for another milestone once you hit one. That's all he's doing. 

[manbearpig]

11 minutes ago, Delphi said:

Then there is Katie,  who I normally defend.   But, no,  she's too old to have a breakout role and her ability won't help her because she is no Streep.  She needs all the work she can get and being a diva, which she was, btw,  is not the way to stay employed.

Honestly, you never know. People like Amy Adams and Jessica Chastain had been working for a while before they really took off in their early to mid thirties. Not that I'm comparing Cassidy to these women, but just one decent role can change someone's career. 

[Starfish35]

150 episodes would be episode 7.12 (again, assuming 23 episodes a season).  I can see them doing that easily.  I'm pretty confident they'll get to at least season seven.  It's after that I'm not sure about.  I know Smallville did 10 seasons and SPN just got renewed for a 13th season (wow), but on the other hand, you have TVD, their former flagship show, wrapping up an abbreviated eighth season (which...eight seasons is still a good run).  So...who knows? :)

Edited January 8, 2017 by Starfish35

[Delphi]

2 hours ago, manbearpig said:

Honestly, you never know. People like Amy Adams and Jessica Chastain had been working for a while before they really took off in their early to mid thirties. Not that I'm comparing Cassidy to these women, but just one decent role can change someone's career. 

I think the key difference is that they weren't being divas about con footage.   I think Katie could potentially have a chance to make her career work out huge.    But it's probably best not to make enemies and it doesn't look like she's making any friends with her attitude. 

[Primal Slayer]

They didn't have con footage to be diva's about. But con footage isn't going to make or break her career, especially when actors don't come to agreements for plenty of things. 

This isn't Katherine Heigl whose career isn't fully dead after all the drama she's gone through, now that is more detrimental then a con video.

Edited January 9, 2017 by Primal Slayer

[Primal Slayer]

2 hours ago, Delphi said:

I think the whose more "successful" comes with a lot of criteria that you need to take into account though.  Including talent,  looks and desire. 

For example Tom Welling I'm sure wants more work,  but I'm sure people instantly think teenage Superman from that we show. 

Then there's actresses like Busy.   She's talented but probably not considered Hollywood beautiful even though I think she's gorgeous.   But she waits for jobs she likes because let's be real even a bad actor makes more than the rest of us and she's happy being a mom. 

Then there are your breakouts,  cw has had a few but really they are all from the wb/UPN merger.   EBR has the talents and the beauty to be that break out star but I'm not sure she's all that willing to leave Canada. 

Then there is Katie,  who I normally defend.   But, no,  she's too old to have a breakout role and her ability won't help her because she is no Streep.  She needs all the work she can get and being a diva, which she was, btw,  is not the way to stay employed.

Tom Welling has his own production company (produced Hellcats), he was done with acting until recently until he tried to come back for a pilot that didnt come up.

Mandy Moore is 32 and has finally had her "big" role. Justin Hartley is 39 and finally getting his breakout role. It is harder the older you get (esp for women) but it is still entirely possible. Katies had a very good career thus far and if she wants to put more focus on her acting, I'm sure she'll be fine.

[Chaser]

KC's biggest problem is that she has a reputation. I don't think she has the resume to over come that. She was fired from two CW shows. 

Spoiler

Recasted on one and maybe another. 

There could be a big break role out there, but would they even want to look at her?

[Primal Slayer]

Actors are killed off of shows all the time, neither show has said anything bad about her so no one is going to be holding that against her, if she was trouble to work with on shows, CW isn't going to waste their time on her. 

Sean Bean has been killed off of nearly everything he stars in.

Like it's been said, all it takes is the right role to truly blow up. A lot of times they have other people in mind who fall through and someone smaller steps in.

Edited January 9, 2017 by Primal Slayer

[Chaser]

I doubt they would say anything bad about her. She might sue.

[Primal Slayer]

Just now, Chaser said:

I doubt they would say anything bad about her. She might sue.

So if they haven't said anything bad about her and continue to work with her, she can't exactly have a bad reputation. MG is a former lawyer, I am sure he knows how to play the game.

[Chaser]

9 minutes ago, Primal Slayer said:

So if they haven't said anything bad about her and continue to work with her, she can't exactly have a bad reputation. MG is a former lawyer, I am sure he knows how to play the game.

Can't she? If you look at EVERYTHING and don't see a problem with KC, then there is nothing that I can say (pretty sure its already been said anyway) that would change your mind. 

Side note - LOL I wouldn't put much stock in MG's lawyering skills.

[Primal Slayer]

5 minutes ago, Chaser said:

Can't she? If you look at EVERYTHING and don't see a problem with KC, then there is nothing that I can say (pretty sure its already been said anyway) that would change your mind. 

Side note - LOL I wouldn't put much stock in MG's lawyering skills.

Not as bad as one would think around here. Not giving her permission for a con video=dead career apparently.

[sadfangirl]

15 minutes ago, Chaser said:

I doubt they would say anything bad about her. She might sue.

Nothing might be said in the press, but crews gossip, and EPs gossip. {I have friends in the film industry, oh the stories I've heard, which no, I'm not repeating} If she has a reputation, it's well-known.

At the end of the day KC blew it big time. She got a second chance after SPN and was then replaced as love interest/bas ass canary. She outstayed her welcome and they didn't know what to do with her. Her contract and representation are to be envied.

Getting regular work in front of the camera is hard, no matter how good you are.   

[Primal Slayer]

1 minute ago, sadfangirl said:

 

Getting regular work in front of the camera is hard, no matter how good you are.   

Unless your Jennifer Lawrence lol

[BkWurm1]

3 hours ago, manbearpig said:

Honestly, you never know. People like Amy Adams and Jessica Chastain had been working for a while before they really took off in their early to mid thirties. Not that I'm comparing Cassidy to these women, but just one decent role can change someone's career. 

And interestingly, Amy Adams is a Smallville alum.  (She ate meteor rock infused veggie smoothies and started burning calories and losing weight so fast that she had to suck the fat out of people to survive. Yep there was a fat suit and everything.  Sigh. You knew she was a good actress even then since she managed to make the body-fat vampire into a sympathetic character)

48 minutes ago, Primal Slayer said:

Tom Welling has his own production company (produced Hellcats), he was done with acting until recently until he tried to come back for a pilot that didnt come up.

Mandy Moore is 32 and has finally had her "big" role. Justin Hartley is 39 and finally getting his breakout role. It is harder the older you get (esp for women) but it is still entirely possible. Katies had a very good career thus far and if she wants to put more focus on her acting, I'm sure she'll be fine.

Welling only got Hellcats as part of his agreement to comeback for the final season of Smallville.  Mandy Moore has been doing most of the choreography for the professional dance numbers on Dancing with the Stars and Hartley may be 39 but, damn, he looks good.  (I really hate how well some men age)

[Chaser]

There is Mandy Moore the Cheographer (LaLa Land too) and Mandy Moore the Actress.

[Delphi]

There is also Mandy the Disney Princess and that speaks well for her and I assume any actress.   Ginny Goodwin has already said she gets roles because she is Snow White and prior she was al ready known as a good actress.

[Chaser]

I meant literally. They are two different people. 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandy_Moore_(choreographer)

[BkWurm1]

33 minutes ago, Chaser said:

I meant literally. They are two different people. 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandy_Moore_(choreographer)

Hahahahahahahaha!  I never knew!  I'll stop being so impressed with the singer Mandy Moore now.  

[statsgirl]

2 hours ago, BkWurm1 said:

And interestingly, Amy Adams is a Smallville alum.  (She ate meteor rock infused veggie smoothies and started burning calories and losing weight so fast that she had to suck the fat out of people to survive.

Is there a link to where I can get the recipe for that? It's after Christmas and you know  ....

I think there are so many variables that it's hard to predict, including actors like Parker Posey who prefer to be in small indie films or move into writing and directing if they can even get into that (see Lexi Alexander).  About the only thing that's sure is that women hit their Best Before date about 40 years before men do.

[yellowfred]

2 hours ago, BkWurm1 said:

And interestingly, Amy Adams is a Smallville alum.  

Yeah, Amy Adams had a pretty impressive run of one-episode roles on WB/CW shows.  She was also on Charmed (playing a lady cursed with really bad luck) and Buffy (playing Tara's cousin).

[Velocity23]

[tv echo]

At Wizard World New Orleans, someone asked SA and DR what they hope to see in next season's big crossover event (video posted by Derek LaBouve)...

[bijoux]

[kismet]

I really could care less about Curtis. And after this season, I'm ready for him to get that one-way tix out of SC to save his marriage. I definitely don't think he's a needed addition to the show. But gosh darn it, I really do think I like Echo. He adds some nice BTS/Social Media fun to the show.

[tv echo]

This video includes portions of SA/DR panel at Wizard World New Orleans...

Stephen Amell and David Paul Ramsey Panel Wizard World Comic Con New Orleans 2017
Published on Jan 10, 2017, by Geek Squire

-- SA noted that morning's announcement that Arrow, Flash, LoT and Supergirl were renewed for another season and joked about Supernatural being renewed "for Season 28" (lol)

-- DR noted that he and SA are the only two actors who have been in all 100 episodes.

-- Fan asked which was better, DC Cinematic Universe or Marvel Cinematic Universe. SA answered: "Marvel has a better track record in the cinematic universe. Um, concurrently, nothing touches Nolan's Batman trilogy."

-- SA gave a mild spoiler for back half of this season:

 

"It's, uh, some pretty big Mayor stuff... a lot of Mayor stuff. We have a couple of episodes that I would call for the show, you know, thematically or wardrobe-style, um, a little bit of a departure, compared to what we normally do."

-- Fan asked if he was anything like his character, Oliver Queen. SA replied: "Stubborn." DR: "Yeah, he's - you are stubborn - but smart. Both really smart. Actually, Stephen's very smart."

-- SA said that Johnny White's is his favorite bar in New Orleans. DR said that they "danced a lot last night, but in two different places."

-- Fan asked about their most memorable moments on the show. SA said that when you first put on the suit, that's pretty memorable. But he also mentioned that director David Nutter had told him that he wanted to make a pilot that was "undeniable" so that the network would have to make the series and that, after one take of a scene from the pilot with him, DR and Suzanne Thompson, David Nutter came up to him and said "Undeniable!" This was a deleted scene from S1 that was cut from the pilot and involved Oliver speaking up for Diggle because Moira wanted to fire Diggle, since Oliver kept ditching him. SA will never forget that moment. DR talked about the S1 scene where Diggle looks in the back seat of the car and Oliver is gone. He said that David Nutter came up and said to him and AK, "Do you feel it? Do you feel it? This show's going, man."  And DR and AK were like, 'Don't say that, don't jinx it." DR said that he didn't feel it until he saw the pilot and then knew that this show was going to go to air. DR: "There was nothing I saw that year that even came close to the pilot."

-- Fan asked if they thought Oliver could still beat The Flash now that The Flash is more experienced. DR: "I think Arrow would still win. I just think experience trumps power... I think Oliver Queen would find a way like Bruce Wayne would to beat all the superpowered guys... Oliver Queen kinda deals with this criminal aspect, this dark side of himself a lot like Bruce Wayne, right? And I just think that that's what gives him the edge. And Barry Allen just doesn't have that." SA: "Agree."

-- Mod asked if they thought Oliver was already assessing the other superhero teams for weaknesses. SA: "I think Oliver has already researched kryptonite, for sure... Like, kryptonite. And how do I take away his superspeed. And I might need to waste these guys at a certain point and I'm gonna need to have my bag of tricks." DR: "What about some of that element in the next crossover? That would be kinda dope... Just that Oliver Queen would think that way is an interesting twist."

-- DR would love to see Bruce Wayne "duke it out" with Oliver Queen. 

-- Fan asked about seeing the "iconic" goatee again, whether Nyssa will ever return, and getting Sara Lance's number.  SA: "Last question, first answer: C'mon, man... (to the Nyssa question) I hope so. And the answer to the first question is, if we ever saw a version of the goatee, we'd be able to do it after the end of Season 5."

Edited January 13, 2017 by tv echo

[tv echo]

This video is of a 2013 Media Technology Summit that Mark Pedowitz attended in NYC (only recently posted on youtube) - I tried to watch this entire panel, but honestly, it was a yawner, so please don't ask me what they said...

President's Panel What We Love Hate About Digital Distribution HD
Published on Oct 5, 2016, by Landmark Ventures

https://www.eiseverywhere.com/ehome/67859/131380/

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2013 Media Technology Summit 
October 23, 2013
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Special Introduction by Ernie Anastos
President's Panel: What We Love / Hate About Digital Distribution
John Sykes, President, Entertainment Enterprises – Clear Channel Communications
Mark Pedowitz, President – CW Network
Craig Hunegs, President, Business and Strategy – Warner Bros.
Tad Smith, President, Local Media – Cablevision
Moderator: Shelly Palmer, Host of Fox Television's Shelly Palmer Digital Living

Edited January 10, 2017 by tv echo

[bijoux]

Is that deleted scene from the pilot anywhere around? I'd really like to check it out.

[tv echo]

I haven't seen that deleted scene anywhere.

 

A reminder from SA...

Edited January 10, 2017 by tv echo

[EmilyBettFan]

Man he's so odd lol 

He says no never to these things many times then comes back with that.

[Velocity23]

He has to dye his gray hair. He wont be having goatee unless he is playing old man Oliver again.  

[Belinea]

33 minutes ago, EmilyBettFan said:

He says no never to these things many times then comes back with that.

He likes to tease people and attract the people that are into these bits. However, I want to see it. Because I believe that it will look stupid and I want to see people react to their desired facial hair. 

[bijoux]

All he said was that he'd show up with it the first day of working on S6, no reason they can't shave him in make up. I will say that I'm both dreading and gleefully looking forward to how he's going to look this hiatus if he actually tries to grow it. It would surpass the 2015 hiatus pornstache.

[Chaser]

I need him to get the bright green, pointy hat green arrow costume with the van dyke and all and post that to SM first day of filming. Take a look at their dark, gritty GA now.

[tv echo]

Media tweets from the Jan. 8th TCA panel on "CW Behind the Heroes: The Visual Effects of The CW's DC Series" (posting here because it's all behind-the-scenes stuff)...

B-t-s tweets by Zoic Studios on VFX for Arrow's 100th episode and the past 5 seasons...

Edited January 12, 2017 by tv echo

[tv echo]

Well, EK's definitely back on set...

[calliope1975]

I took one for the team and got a PaleyFest ticket. I figure I hope to either have some renewed love by March, or it'll be a nostalgic goodbye to a show I inexplicably loved more than most. (Of course, they could always pull me back for S6 because I don't love myself and FS is my favorite character ever.) Let's hope there's no rage breakdown. On the plus side, I'm too far away from the stage to throw anything at MG or SA. 

[statsgirl]

Thanks for your sacrifice, @calliope1975 . To paraphrase the expression, "We salute you who are about to die."

[kismet]

Thank you & godspeed @calliope1975!

[tv echo]

SA facebook live video chat from yesterday (Jan. 12)...
https://www.facebook.com/stephenamell/videos/1268009643284300/ 

-- SA: "Arrow's back. Not this Wednesday, but the Wednesday thereafter. I haven't talked a lot about the show since we went off the air... in December, after our 100th episode and our fall finale - our winter finale, mid-season finale, whatever it's called... But, uh, we are in the thick of it now. We are filming our 15th episode of the season.

 

We have a couple of episodes coming up that are really fun. Um. A couple of episodes that I'm barely in the Arrow suit, which is not to say that the action is lower. It's just different.

And I'm very proud of the latter half of the show. I mean, I'm always proud of the show. And I don't know that I've been live - well, I have been live. But I don't know if I've discussed with you guys since we got a 6th season. It's pretty incredible. We're going to be able to make 138 episodes of the show - unless The CW wants us to do one more per year, which is always possible, even though I begged them not to. I'm kidding, but 23 is enough. Seriously. We have such a great infrastructure on Arrow, from our cast to our crew to our writers to our producers to the network that distributes our show and the studio that founded it. Um. All of those people deserve a very special thanks, but the people who deserve the most thanks are you - our fans from all over the world. Um. You guys are the ones who made this happen. Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you... Thank you."

-- SA: "We are going to do some semi-regular Q&A's on the page. Um. I've got, uh, my buddy Zacko working with me now on the facebook page, to curate some questions. And those will probably happen in the live format. I'll try to make them at a semi-regular time, and I think that it would be fun to maybe do them on a Thursday, after an episode of Arrow has aired. And, uh, we'll create a theme for the Q&A, try to answer some new questions, just give you guys a little bit of a sneak peek, and I will definitely put a spoiler warning if it's a live video. I promise, I promise, I promise."

-- SA: "Working out with T3 Athletics. Worked out with Josh Segarra today. I'd suggest, if you're ever doing a personal training session, bring a friend. Josh and I did this one exercise today where it was just three different grips of pushups and comibined, we had to do a hundred. So I went, and then he goes. Then I go, and then he goes. And by the end, you're alternating doing two, three pu - chinups at a time. Fantastic stuff, as always, from Tom at T3 Athletics."

Edited January 13, 2017 by tv echo

[LeighAn]

So please don't tell me that his "buddy Zacko" is the moderator he was talking about that's going to clean up the page? Cause yeah I don't see much changing then. 

Edited January 13, 2017 by LeighAn