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That might favor the person already at CC too much, considering they just won against someone else, especially if they've hung on a while. Either using their per-week average loss instead of their total, or including some of the newcomer's at-ranch loss would balance that out.

It does favor them (that's actually the point) but not so much it's insurmountable (especially since most of the advantage is psychological).  

 

Why?  Because it's not the pounds lost since getting to the Craphole that would be counted, but the percentage.  And since neither contestant is starting from a resting state (like if someone totally new joined a show like this later in the season and has a big first week loss mid-season), they're both into the same groove exercise-wise, so the "ideal" is a consistently high AVERAGE.  So the person who just "won" is going to have half of their number be a great percentage (because they won)... its true. But by the very nature of weight loss (and as Craphole demonstrated so well this year), the week AFTER a big weight loss is typically a moderate one.  So that's why you'd be averaging their great winning week in with their moderate post-winning week, and putting it up against a newcomer who (because we KNOW they just had a bad week being kicked off) is very likely to have a good week.

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If somebody's been at CC for a couple of weeks, how is the newcomer in a single week going to surpass what the other will have had three weeks to do? Going by percentage only accounts for having contestants of different starting weights. The only way to save CC may be to throw in some sort of challenge, so that who stays is not entirely based on weight.

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Personally, I think they should all go to Comeback Canyon and stay there the entire time. The whole point of this show is to help overweight people lose weight. So why not use that time at a different location with fewer BS challenges to distract them. Then there is a white line, whoever has the largest percentage loss since arriving at CC returns to the game.

 

No weekly boot. Just a place to learn more, work out more, and reinforce what they learned on the Ranch.

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Get rid of the excessive repeating of the same thing being said over and over again by the contestants and trainers. Show how to eat right, exercise tips for the normal parts of a person's life (work, family, friends etc. etc.)  Instead of giving away money to the winner of the lame challenges, the show should give the money to food share, schools for better exercise equipment, and for fruit and vegetable gardens. Stop trying to shove the message down the viewer's throat about the contestants being able to go back home and show how it can be done in relations to weight loss. These people are not experts just because they were on a ranch for one or more weeks to lose weight. They were chosen because of their sob stories and in some cases, desperation and wanting to be "cured."

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If somebody's been at CC for a couple of weeks, how is the newcomer in a single week going to surpass what the other will have had three weeks to do? Going by percentage only accounts for having contestants of different starting weights. The only way to save CC may be to throw in some sort of challenge, so that who stays is not entirely based on weight.

Because a percentage is not additive. 

 

Lets say on a good week when someone beats someone else they lose 3%.  The next week, in due course they'd probably be down back around 1.5%

 

The person coming in from a loss at the main ranch will be coming off a bad week.  Thus they'll be far more likely to have a GOOD week that time around (and get that 3 or 4%).  Thus they'd beat the repeat person, who has to average their 1.5% loss in with the 3% from the previous week.

 

Then again this may all be arbitrary. It looks like BL is getting totally savaged in the press again.  Maybe NBC ditches it this time.

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Lose the low fat diet (dismissed by most as not healthy)  and split into two groups.  One calorie counts and the other low carb.  It would add another dimension and the results would be interesting.   Who loses faster, who experiences less hunger, more energy and satisfaction?   It would also illustrate that there is not one way to do this.

 

 Diet is 80% of weight loss, not exercise.   This is why an injured contestant that is relegated to the pool loses just as much as everyone else.  

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