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I never had chickenpox, and it's so uncommon now I doubt I'll be exposed to it.

But if I was exposed to someone with shingles, I wouldn't get shingles, but could get chickenpox, which could be harsh as an adult ... I guess I need to look into what, if any, vaccine I should get under the circumstances.  (I'm in my late 40s.)

Right now I'm less than three weeks away from being eligible for the COVID vaccine, so I'll be putting all my effort towards securing an appointment for that.  When the dust settles and I next have a regular check-up, I'll ask about the whole chickenpox/shingles thing.  It has never come up before.

I don't know the rules of hopscotch, either (I don't think I ever did; it existed but wasn't A Thing when I was a kid), but, thanks to that commercial, the next time I come across one instead of just walking over it I will hop my way through it.

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5 minutes ago, Bastet said:

I never had chickenpox, and it's so uncommon now I doubt I'll be exposed to it.

But if I was exposed to someone with shingles, I wouldn't get shingles, but could get chickenpox, which could be harsh as an adult ... I guess I need to look into what, if any, vaccine I should get under the circumstances.  (I'm in my late 40s.)

Right now I'm less than three weeks away from being eligible for the COVID vaccine, so I'll be putting all my effort towards securing an appointment for that.  When the dust settles and I next have a regular check-up, I'll ask about the whole chickenpox/shingles thing.  It has never come up before.

I don't know the rules of hopscotch, either (I don't think I ever did; it existed but wasn't A Thing when I was a kid), but, thanks to that commercial, the next time I come across one instead of just walking over it I will hop my way through it.

I used to be a hopscotch fanatic. I knew dozens of games and rhymes. Can I remember any of it now? Nope.

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I had chickenpox way back in second grade, but I'm in my 30s, so I'm still too young to get the shingles shot. My mom got the shingles shot last year-it knocked her out pretty good for a day or two, but she's glad she had it. If people have been known to get chickenpox again, though, then yeah, maybe I should look into a chickenpox vaccine. 

In another week or so they'll open up the COVID vaccines to all adults here, so my mom and I are going to get our appointment set up for as soon as possible so we can get that taken care of. 

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I had chickenpox way back in second grade, but I'm in my 30s, so I'm still too young to get the shingles shot. My mom got the shingles shot last year-it knocked her out pretty good for a day or two, but she's glad she had it. If people have been known to get chickenpox again, though, then yeah, maybe I should look into a chickenpox vaccine. 

I had my first go round with shingles when I was 27. I told the doctor I thought only old people got it and he said no, even babys can get it.

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Just now, Annber03 said:

If people have been known to get chickenpox again, though, then yeah, maybe I should look into a chickenpox vaccine. 

It's uncommon, for sure, but I don't think it qualifies as rare.  I do know it mostly (but not only) happens in people with vulnerable immune systems or those whose first case was really mild or happened when they were really young, though, so I think those are the people for whom the chickenpox vaccination is recommended even though they've already had it.  (Emphasis on "I think"; again, I've never had it or been vaccinated for it, and never talked to a doctor about it, so this is just what I've picked up via cultural osmosis.)

 

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6 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

I had my first go round with shingles when I was 27. I told the doctor I though only old people got it and he said no, even babys can get it.

Oh, wow. Okay, something to keep in mind, then. 

5 minutes ago, Bastet said:

It's uncommon, for sure, but I don't think it qualifies as rare.  I do know it mostly (but not only) happens in people with vulnerable immune systems or those whose first case was really mild or happened when they were really young, though, so I think those are the people for whom the chickenpox vaccination is recommended even though they've already had it.  (Emphasis on "I think"; again, I've never had it or been vaccinated for it, and never talked to a doctor about it, so this is just what I've picked up via cultural osmosis.)

Appreciate this info, too. I don't remember a whole lot about my experience with chickenpox-I just recall sleeping a lot and it lasted for about a week and a half, I think it was? I don't know how mild/severe it was beyond that. 

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1 hour ago, Leeds said:

It would be nice if people could grow old gracefully and didn't feel the need to disguise the fact that they are aging.  At some point it stops working and your grandchildren and strangers laugh at you behind your back.

  If people weren't judged by their physical appearance from the day they were born until the day they die, it would be a lot easier to age gracefully.

There are a lot of people that won't do what they want to do simply because they don't want others to judge them.

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My kids brought home the chicken pox to me from their school. I was 24-25, it was miserable to have it as an adult. I called my mom to see if I had had it as a child. She said I had, but a very mild case. So I guess you can get it more than once... I'll worry about shingles another day...

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On 3/28/2021 at 6:09 AM, Prevailing Wind said:

Thinking about it now, when you do the one-legged hop, does everyone hop on their left leg, or was that just me? 

You're probably just goofy footed. Right-handed people can be goofy and left-handed people can be regular.

I know someone who got shingles multiple times as a child.

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A friend said her younger brother has had multiple cases of shingles, starting in his early 20's.     

Another young cousin (early 20's, in college) started feeling awful, and had terrible headaches, and pain.    She went to the doctor, and felt so awful her mother drove her there.    The doctors were very worried, scheduled all types of tests, and were suspecting a brain tumor.    Her mother called her father to be with them.   Then an older doctor in the practice was called for a consultation, and he heard about the symptoms, and looked at her scalp, and cancelled the other tests.    The girl had shingles on her scalp, not some brain tumor, but the nerve pain was horrible.   

I had the shingles shot (the first one) as soon as I could get my doctor to write a prescription, and I paid every penny for it.   Then when Shingrix was available, I had that prescribed also, but this time the health plan paid for both shots.     I've seen too many people with shingles have the long lasting nerve pain after, so I've taken every precaution I can. 

Also, they can prescribe anti-virals that shorten the length of shingles too, and may help prevent nerve pain that lasts for a long time.  However, that has to be the start of an attack, not days later. 

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1 minute ago, CrazyInAlabama said:

Another young cousin (early 20's, in college) started feeling awful, and had terrible headaches, and pain.    She went to the doctor, and felt so awful her mother drove her there.    The doctors were very worried, scheduled all types of tests, and were suspecting a brain tumor.    Her mother called her father to be with them.   Then an older doctor in the practice was called for a consultation, and he heard about the symptoms, and looked at her scalp, and cancelled the other tests.    The girl had shingles on her scalp, not some brain tumor, but the nerve pain was horrible.   

Oh, lord, that sounds utterly miserable. Poor girl. 

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1 minute ago, Annber03 said:

Oh, lord, that sounds utterly miserable. Poor girl. 

I only get a small spot on my lower back, about the size of my finger tip. It may seem like nothing but it feels like I'm being stabbed with a red hot poker.

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Well, if I wasn't already convinced enough to get a shingles shot when I'm able to do so, these stories are certainly a good reminder of why it's important to get one. 

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The case of shingles I had in September affected the entire right side of my head.  It felt like someone had hit me with a two-by-four, with some minor itchiness around my temple.  Until the Valtrex kicked in.  But I did have to take two courses of Valtrex to knock it back.

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Just now, Browncoat said:

The case of shingles I had in September affected the entire right side of my head.  It felt like someone had hit me with a two-by-four, with some minor itchiness around my temple.  Until the Valtrex kicked in.  But I did have to take two courses of Valtrex to knock it back.

Stories like this scare the hell out of me. If it gets in your eyes it can cause blindness.

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I got both shingles vaccinations.  I was on the waiting list at Walgreen's for a very long time. As soon as they called me, I was there. We scheduled my follow-up shot right then and there.

My mom had scabies for the longest time before they landed on the right diagnosis. They told her they never suspected it because she was so "kempt" - it's usually the unkempt people that present with scabies.  Mom had to admit to being a thrift shop junkie and there's no telling where those clothes she was buying came from & what they carried.  She stopped buy clothes at second-hand stores after that. She said no pretty blouse was worth that hell.

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1 minute ago, peacheslatour said:

Stories like this scare the hell out of me. If it gets in your eyes it can cause blindness.

Fortunately, I had already scheduled my regular eye exam, and since I'm highly myopic I go to an ophthalmologist.  My eye wasn't affected -- the doctor spent quite a long time checking it out to make sure.

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I would like to take the shingles vaccinations but I cannot because I have a kidney transplant.  I imagine any other transplant would be the same., and possibly also for anyone with a compromised immune system.

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On 3/26/2021 at 2:38 PM, janie jones said:

I don't know if you're aware, but you can use the multiquote function to quote things from other threads.

I didn't know that, now I do. Thank you.

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My Paris feet picture. I think one reason we were in bare feet is that we had walked over 10 miles that day.

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I can't decide which puzzles me more - that there are people who will be turned on by that picture or that there are people who will be grossed out by it.  I mean, different strokes for different folks, you do you, and all that jazz, but I just don't get the foot fetish or the foot phobia - they're feet.  Nobody gets fired up, good or bad, about a picture of, say, elbows.  What's different?

Anyway, which arrondissement is that?  I've barely scratched the surface, but thus far my favorite to stay in has been the 6th.

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I like that photo a lot!  But I tend to like the more off-beat photos like that.

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10 hours ago, Bastet said:

Anyway, which arrondissement is that?  I've barely scratched the surface, but thus far my favorite to stay in has been the 6th.

The 8th. We stayed at the Plaza Elysees, 177 Blvd Haussmann. It was a few blocks from the Champs Elysees. It was our 2nd time there. The 1st time we had a view of a courtyard. But the most amazing thing was that in the land of no ice, the room where they served breakfast had an ice machine! Cold G&Ts.

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12 hours ago, Bruinsfan said:

 that stuff better taste delicious as much as it costs—chicken and pork that I buy for my own meals is cheaper per pound!

This is why I recommend that, if at all possible, get a part-time job at a vet's. The discounts are incredible. I get Purina Prescription food for less than half price, not to mention free exams and 50% of vaccinations, free boarding, etc.  Before lockdown, I only worked there 12 hours a week. Since then, I've been working from home, just auditing invoices. I still get the discounts!  Whooo hooooo.

 

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On 3/29/2021 at 2:22 PM, Trey said:

I would like to take the shingles vaccinations but I cannot because I have a kidney transplant.  I imagine any other transplant would be the same., and possibly also for anyone with a compromised immune system.

Yes, I can't get the Shingles vaccine because of a medication I use. It is worrying. 

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22 hours ago, Prevailing Wind said:

This is why I recommend that, if at all possible, get a part-time job at a vet's. The discounts are incredible. I get Purina Prescription food for less than half price, not to mention free exams and 50% of vaccinations, free boarding, etc.  Before lockdown, I only worked there 12 hours a week. Since then, I've been working from home, just auditing invoices. I still get the discounts!  Whooo hooooo.

 

Nice! I work more than full time, so not an option for me, but it does sound like a good part time job. I don't begrudge my cats their pricey prescription chow too much—it prevented the bladder problem it was prescribed for from recurring, and I can tell by the sheen of both cats' coats that it's better for them than the retail food I was giving them previously.

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17 minutes ago, Bruinsfan said:

I don't begrudge my cats their pricey prescription chow too much—it prevented the bladder problem it was prescribed for from recurring, and I can tell by the sheen of both cats' coats that it's better for them than the retail food I was giving them previously.

Yeah, almost $70 for a 16 lb. bag of the stuff is bad, but my 'problem child' cat who used to bite at her rear end and cry when she used the litter box (because of pain from urinary crystals) is fine now. I keep a bowl of regular old Cat Chow out, too, but all 4 of my cats seem to have completely switched to the pricey stuff- of course! You can get a discount by going to auto-shipment, so I'll probably be doing that.

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On 3/30/2021 at 3:32 PM, CrystalBlue said:

Despite the cute name, Meow Mix, it's known to be the equivalent of junk food for cats.  It may be cheaper, but all cats need solid nutrition provided by quality ingredients, not a bunch of fillers and flavors.  I have never fed any of my kitties Meow Mix and never had pet sitting clients who used MM either.

What is a pet sitting client?  For some reason I picture house pets on a psychiatrist's couch.

On 3/30/2021 at 6:47 PM, Prevailing Wind said:

What's the other brand?

When Meow Mix first came out, it bragged that it had 3 different flavors. I bought some for Chester and then got curious - yes, I ate one of each color to see if I could taste the difference. All three "flavors" tasted metallic. I threw the damn box out.  The food that Chester really liked was those tall red cans with the drawing of the white kitty - Kozy Kitten. Quite stinky food, but once, while dishing it out, an entire crab claw came out of the can. I figured if he's eating crab, he's eating better than I was.

I used to play ping pong with a neighbor kid back in the day.  His parents kept dog biscuits on the stairs leading to the cellar where the ping pong table was located.  Every time I would go over his house to play ping pong, he would grab a few small Milk Bone like dog biscuits and eat them.  He offered me some, but I wasn't interested. 

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54 minutes ago, icemiser69 said:

What is a pet sitting client?  For some reason I picture house pets on a psychiatrist's couch.

 

I was a professional pet sitter and dog walker for 12 1/2 years; I owned my own pet care business for 9 of those years.  My clients were the pets' owners who hired me to take care of their cats and dogs for various services and time lengths.  Daily dog walks, dog park outings, in-home visits for cats and sometimes dogs too, overnight pet sitting for vacations, transportation to vets and groomers.

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25 minutes ago, CrystalBlue said:

I was a professional pet sitter and dog walker for 12 1/2 years; I owned my own pet care business for 9 of those years.  My clients were the pets' owners who hired me to take care of their cats and dogs for various services and time lengths.  Daily dog walks, dog park outings, in-home visits for cats and sometimes dogs too, overnight pet sitting for vacations, transportation to vets and groomers.

Is there any money in that?

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29 minutes ago, CrystalBlue said:

I was a professional pet sitter and dog walker for 12 1/2 years; I owned my own pet care business for 9 of those years.  My clients were the pets' owners who hired me to take care of their cats and dogs for various services and time lengths.  Daily dog walks, dog park outings, in-home visits for cats and sometimes dogs too, overnight pet sitting for vacations, transportation to vets and groomers.

It sounds like a pet lover's dream job.

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When I need a pet-sitter, I ask one of the vet techs at work - they are notoriously underpaid - and since she already knows my cats, she sits for a while & brushes them & plays with them. I've always felt confident leaving Stella & Bosco in her care.

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30 minutes ago, Prevailing Wind said:

When I need a pet-sitter, I ask one of the vet techs at work - they are notoriously underpaid - and since she already knows my cats, she sits for a while & brushes them & plays with them. I've always felt confident leaving Stella & Bosco in her care.

My god, is that ever the truth. When I was a vet tech back in the eighties, I was pulling down all of $700.00 a month. And that was for six days a week.

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I've known several people with pet sitting, and also, house sitting services.    For house sitting they go by and put out and take in the garbage cans, make sure there are no packages sitting outside, and collect the mail.     

 

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When I used to get the paper, I would ask my neighbor to take it in for me - the rumor was if you called the paper to put a vacation hold, somebody there would alert burglars.

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5 hours ago, CrazyInAlabama said:

I've known several people with pet sitting, and also, house sitting services.    For house sitting they go by and put out and take in the garbage cans, make sure there are no packages sitting outside, and collect the mail.     

 

Yeah, I did that too on my overnights.  Some overnights lasted up to three weeks with my clients out of the country.  Some day house sitting included jobs I spent more time watering plants than actually feeding and watering the pets!

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On 3/28/2021 at 3:13 PM, Bastet said:

I never had chickenpox, and it's so uncommon now I doubt I'll be exposed to it.

But if I was exposed to someone with shingles, I wouldn't get shingles, but could get chickenpox, which could be harsh as an adult ... I guess I need to look into what, if any, vaccine I should get under the circumstances.  (I'm in my late 40s.)

Same! I'm precisely 40 now, and there were two different outbreaks various years in elementary school, during which I never caught it. But yeah, I'm thinking I'd be in the same boat as you.

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2 hours ago, SnarkySheep said:

Same! I'm precisely 40 now, and there were two different outbreaks various years in elementary school, during which I never caught it. But yeah, I'm thinking I'd be in the same boat as you.

My mother got measles in her forties, and it was bad. (I know these two aren't related) Then she got shingles on her head. I tried to get a shingles vaccination and they told me I was too young.  So, shingles looks at my driver's license, does it?

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23 hours ago, nokat said:

 I tried to get a shingles vaccination and they told me I was too young.  So, shingles looks at my driver's license, does it?

Apparently it's more prevalent in older people. I've got a friend who is 55 and they told her she needs to be 60 to get the shingles shot.  She had chicken pox when she was 29. It was horrible for her. I had them when I was 4. I was sick as a dog. But it was worse for her. 

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On 3/28/2021 at 4:04 PM, Gramto6 said:

My kids brought home the chicken pox to me from their school. I was 24-25, it was miserable to have it as an adult. I called my mom to see if I had had it as a child. She said I had, but a very mild case. So I guess you can get it more than once... I'll worry about shingles another day...

Twenty-five years ago a friend came to visit us from Scotland to the US West Coast.  She knew her 3-year-old had chicken pox but chose to take a 10-hour-flight nonetheless.  She didn't tell us until she the day after they arrived.  My children got it, and who knows how many got it on the flights.  She's a PhD in science.  Hasn't been a friend since.

 

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21 minutes ago, Leeds said:

Twenty-five years ago a friend came to visit us from Scotland to the US West Coast.  She knew her 3-year-old had chicken pox but chose to take a 10-hour-flight nonetheless.  She didn't tell us until she the day after they arrived.  My children got it, and who knows how many got it on the flights.  She's a PhD in science.  Hasn't been a friend since.

 

So irresponsible!    

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I was too young to remember having chicken pox. I got it before we moved from Philadelphia to Miami when I was 3½.  My Mom told me the story of why I have a small chunk out of my right eyelid...I had a chickenpox scab on it and I could barely open my eye, so she picked it off - and skin & eyelash follicles came with it. She felt so bad.  Ehhh.. so I have some eyelashes missing. No big deal.  She also told me my brother brought it home from school. (Early 50s - no vax yet.) I don't hold that against him. There's plenty other stuff to blame him for. LOL.

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Re treadmill accidents from Annoying, Irritating, Enraging, I was on my treadmill and my brother came over to my house to get something. I told him it was in the bathroom, underneath the sink. He couldn't find it, I told him 3 times. Finally, I got off the treadmill and went and got it for him, in the bathroom, under the sink, right where I told him. I left the treadmill running, big mistake. I tried to get back on it, went flying backwards, landed face down on the end of the thing. Had to have my brother take me to the ER for X-rays for a concussion. I was fine, but terrible headache and a black eye and missed a day of work.

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7 hours ago, friendperidot said:

Re treadmill accidents from Annoying, Irritating, Enraging, I was on my treadmill and my brother came over to my house to get something. I told him it was in the bathroom, underneath the sink. He couldn't find it, I told him 3 times. Finally, I got off the treadmill and went and got it for him, in the bathroom, under the sink, right where I told him. I left the treadmill running, big mistake. I tried to get back on it, went flying backwards, landed face down on the end of the thing. Had to have my brother take me to the ER for X-rays for a concussion. I was fine, but terrible headache and a black eye and missed a day of work.

Several years ago, I was at the gym and went over to a treadmill and got on, somehow not noticing that someone had left it running, and I flew back and landed on my face.  Besides black eyes and bruises on my body, I suffered a facial injury and it damaged a nerve in my cheek that has left me with a permanently lopsided smile.

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12 minutes ago, Zahdii said:

I have a flip phone.  I got it a few years ago when my health was so bad that I was afraid to get too far from the house phone in case I fell when no one else was around.  I kept it in the walker bag so it was always near me, and cancelled the house phone.  I didn't want an expensive cell phone in case I damaged it, and I didn't care about being able to access the internet, play games on it, or whatever else the fancy phones do.  

It never occurred to me that my cheap flip phone prevented me from being traced.  I can walk independently now, but still stick close to home and don't go out alone.  If I start a life of crime, I guess having a flip phone is good.  Pretty sure that's not going to happen.  If for some reason I get kidnapped, people are aware I've been kidnapped, and my phone isn't taken from me so it can be traced, that's bad.  I'm willing to take that chance.

As for sending texts, yes, the constant jabbing at the phone to spell out words is annoying.  The people I frequently text are aware that I'll take longer to reply, and if it gets to be too much of a bother, they can just call me.

Regarding texting on flip phones and having to jab at numbers multiple times - it's been a few years, but the last couple of flip phones I had had an option where you just pressed each key once and it predicted or gave you choices for what the word would be.  Like for "cat" you just press 2-2-8, not 222-2-8, and it would let you pick - cat, act, bat...  I very much preferred that once I got used to it but I know some people didn't.  Anyway, maybe that's still an option on some flip phones.

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3 hours ago, SoMuchTV said:

Anyway, maybe that's still an option on some flip phones.

Mine is several years old, but, yes, that's an option (and what I have mine set on; I rarely text, but when I do I don't want to have to jab the buttons quite so many times).

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Most cell providers are eliminating flip phones from their plans.  About 5 years ago, I had to get a flip phone for my dad and I had the choice of one.  And it took a week.  The smart phones were all right there.

My brother works in construction and has used a flip-phone for years.  It was one of the ruggedized ones.  It fell off a four story building, fell off his truck a number of times, went thru the washer AND dryer twice and still worked without an issue.  In January, his provider told him they would no longer support his phone, so he had to go to a smart phone.  And HATES it.

 

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14 hours ago, SoMuchTV said:

 

Ignore the quote box. I don't understand why you can't delet it when you change your mind.

Anyway, I have Consumer Cellular - I don't think they'll EVER get rid of flip phones.  Bwaahahahaha

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1 hour ago, madmax said:

Most cell providers are eliminating flip phones from their plans. 

Yeah, I think I have to either switch phones after the end of the year or switch to a different provider than AT&T.  I haven't looked into it yet, just paid vague attention to some mailings.  I have no need for a smartphone, so I don't want one, but we'll see what I decide is the easiest transition.

1 hour ago, madmax said:

About 5 years ago, I had to get a flip phone for my dad and I had the choice of one.  And it took a week.  The smart phones were all right there.

It was about that time I had to get a new phone, as something in my old one destroyed two batteries, and I had several flip phones to choose from in the store, and was able to walk out of there with the one I chose.  

It was a pleasant experience; I expected to be at best pushed and at worst harangued towards a smartphone, but, while the first whippersnapper who hopped out at me upon my entrance directed me towards a coworker when I answered his "How can I help you?" query with my old-school request, the employee I wound up with was great.  She not only never tried to up-sell, she didn't patronize me; she readily acknowledged a flip phone's meeting of my needs and simply talked to me about which one would be most similar to my old phone that I was used to. 

(I am certain I would not have liked the first employee even if he'd deigned to help me, but the second was such a delight I emailed the company to sing her praises).

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