Danielg342 April 9, 2015 Share April 9, 2015 (edited) I am not sure why people are calling the new guys Mary Sues. 2 or 3 already have back stories/personalies which isn't bad for a backdoor pilot. There was Anna Gunn's brother who looks to be in a foreign prison due to mostly American stupidity. The main guy who I know from CSI NY has a well formed family which is unusual for these kinds of shows and a cop son. Then there is the Analayst guy who does JJ/Garcia duty which makes sense because he is usually the only one stateside....he draws. I think there is another team member who used to be in the military. So maybe not extremely well drawn out but not Mary Sue bad either. My vantage point is simple: it doesn't matter that International Unit members all have character traits and backstories- the fact of the matter is that none of them were presented with traits that so much as hint that they have personal struggles that they need to overcome (aside from Monty and the limp, but he's not in the field so that may not matter much). Central to any story is conflict, and characters themselves are a story all by themselves- thus, they need something that keeps them grounded and becomes an obstacle that they (and their teammates) need to overcome. Otherwise, what's the appeal of the story? If things come too easy for them, it becomes boring, plus characters with flaws are much more relatable because we've all got flaws. I know it's still the beginning and there's a lot of chances for growth, but so far, what's presented is that none of them seem to have any real issues. I'm not asking for much- this ain't a Shakespearean tragedy, despite Erica Messer's best efforts it seems. All the characters needed were stuff like a stubborn streak, impulsivity, intense attention to detail, too much compassion, a pizza addiction, etc., that would, at the very least, imply that at some later point they'll arrive at an issue beyond their capabilities and require help. That's one way to create conflict in a story, organically, and, frankly, the best way to do it because it's realistic. Not only that, but why settle on having a team if its members don't have faults the other teammates need to account for? Probably the worst part was all the fawning by the original BAU members- Morgan towards Simmons, Rossi towards Garrett, and Garcia towards Monty. It's like the characters were all put on a pedestal, with the original characters reduced to “mere mortals” worshiping their “new gods”, as if the International Unit represented people they could never hope to be. It sounds like stuff ripped from bad fanfiction, and while it's not always an indicator of a “Mary Sue”, it's icing on the cake. It's one thing if the characters are flawless, it's another if other characters revel in that flawlessless. Nothing drives the point home more that the characters are “perfect” than this very fact- at least if other characters held the seemingly flawless ones in contempt you could at least infer that the flawless ones indeed do have a flaw and that's arrogance (ETA- or obliviousness). That's what makes these characters “Mary Sues”- we saw them do no wrong, we didn't see them have any faults and the original characters were reduced to little more than minions bowing down to their new masters. It's like Messer wrote obvious fanfiction and passed it on to CBS for an episode. Which means...hey, CBS, if you're going to start using fanfics for your episodes, come here to these forums. You'll have no shortage of material to draw from to create fantastic episodes, ones I would say are much better than the ones you actually are passing on to us. Edited April 10, 2015 by Danielg342 7 Link to comment
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