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2 hours ago, MyAimIsTrue said:

Yet another reason for me to love Pat.

Indeed! From what I've heard from those where know her, she's truly a genuine and kind lady. Just based on how she basically has adopted the creator of her biggest social media fansite((from the Instagram page "welovepatriciaatachul")), I'd say she's a class act---what with the way Pat's welcomed that IG page owner to her house to stay for a few days, sent her extravagant care packages, possibly even gifted her with a secret Birkin bag, it makes me almost wish I'd started that page first!

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Sun-Bun, thanks for responding to my post. I look forward to visiting some of the hot spots you recommend.  LOL at the reference to Patricia taking her medicine on the veranda. I truly appreciate the Southern hospitality you have extended to me.

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So I got to talk to someone who was involved with the filming and got some bits about the upcoming season. The person is involved with the filming but not editing, so while the person saw the some of what was being filmed, who knows how the producers will end up editing this season. Here are some of the bits the person shared with me. 

- Even though Craig and Naomie broke up prior to filming, it was filmed as if their relationship was deteriorating throughout the season, and then the breakup "happened". 

- It was Naomie's decision to not be part of the main cast, even though she was the first choice to replace Landon, so the "honor" went to Chelsea instead.  

- Austen will be this season's Shep. After being the knight in shining armor last season, he will be the leading douchebag in S5. He hooked up with one of Chelsea's best friends, was still waffling back and forth with Chelsea, all the while pretending to be single on social media so that women continue to proposition him. Fast forward to present time - Chelsea's friend who Austen hooked up with is no longer friends with and talking to Austen (almost ruined her friendship with Chelsea, but apparently they are civil with each other now), and Austen is now banging Naomie's hairstylist. Needless to say, this guy likes to keep his relations in a tight circle, so to speak. 

- they will reference Relationshep in the show, and Peyton filmed a few scenes with the cast. But there were heavy discussions during filming if her scenes will make the final cut.

- Kathryn was having a redemption arc but couldn't help but get into catfights with the new GF. Have you guys heard the rumor that she shafted Gywnn's after she was done filming the season?? Apparently the producers also did not know that was what Kathryn did after the season wrapped.

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I heard she was working at Gwynn’s, which surprised me because she doesn’t like to work. She used them to have a storyline, I guess. And yes, I’ve been hearing about her over the top hatred of Thomas’ girlfriend. Girl... let it go, move on. Your kids will thank you later.

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4 hours ago, biakbiak said:

Who knee Naomi and Elizabeth were besties, Naomi drags JD over hia behavior.

Hmm, maybe JD will snipe back at Naomi about Craig and Naomi's breakup too.

If that's a season-long thing -- JD having to defend himself -- why would he subject himself to that?

Maybe he has nothing else going but to appear on this show.

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The weirdest part of that story is that just hours later, Austen posted a pic on Instagram of he and and his girlfriend(the “crazy person” screaming in that video) cozying up and eating ice cream together. Just weird and awkward stuff all around...I literally have seen far more of Austen’s ass and undies than I ever need to again.

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I wonder if Austen is trying too hard.  It makes me wonder if he really wants to be a womanizer or if he doesn't, but, wants people to believe that he is.  Make sense? lol I know that Chelsie described him as going out with the guys and then calling for a booty call late, but, was he out with other women?  I'm not sure what to make of him.  

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On 11/27/2017 at 11:41 AM, Sun-Bun said:

Indeed! From what I've heard from those where know her, she's truly a genuine and kind lady. Just based on how she basically has adopted the creator of her biggest social media fansite((from the Instagram page "welovepatriciaatachul")), I'd say she's a class act---what with the way Pat's welcomed that IG page owner to her house to stay for a few days, sent her extravagant care packages, possibly even gifted her with a secret Birkin bag, it makes me almost wish I'd started that page first!

I'm a Patricia fan.  I also like Whitney - a lot.  Neither is perfect, but at the end of the day, they seem very kind and compassionate and not too arrogant (I hope that's true in real life).  And I like their eccentricities.

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7 hours ago, SunnyBeBe said:

I wonder if Austen is trying too hard.  It makes me wonder if he really wants to be a womanizer or if he doesn't, but, wants people to believe that he is.  Make sense? lol I know that Chelsie described him as going out with the guys and then calling for a booty call late, but, was he out with other women?  I'm not sure what to make of him.  

Chelsea said he was out for a bachelorETTE party and then came back home late. What kind of a swell guy thinks it's entirely A-Ok to still do Bachelorette parties while he has a girlfriend. The video doesn't surprise me at all. A guy who thinks it was embarrassing FOR his girlfriend - not FOR him - to find him with two naked chicks at his house in the morning.

He is trying too hard. He's trying too hard to be like Shep. Problem is, he just doesn't have Shep's "swag" (and money) to pull of being the resident Charleston playboy. Instead, he just ends up this awkward muppet mouth who makes really lame jokes, but who some women will find funny and bite their lip to fuck him in case the timing is good and they end up on TV. 

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On 3/5/2018 at 9:30 PM, slowpoked said:

So I got to talk to someone who was involved with the filming and got some bits about the upcoming season. The person is involved with the filming but not editing, so while the person saw the some of what was being filmed, who knows how the producers will end up editing this season. Here are some of the bits the person shared with me. 

- Even though Craig and Naomie broke up prior to filming, it was filmed as if their relationship was deteriorating throughout the season, and then the breakup "happened". 

- It was Naomie's decision to not be part of the main cast, even though she was the first choice to replace Landon, so the "honor" went to Chelsea instead.  

- Austen will be this season's Shep. After being the knight in shining armor last season, he will be the leading douchebag in S5. He hooked up with one of Chelsea's best friends, was still waffling back and forth with Chelsea, all the while pretending to be single on social media so that women continue to proposition him. Fast forward to present time - Chelsea's friend who Austen hooked up with is no longer friends with and talking to Austen (almost ruined her friendship with Chelsea, but apparently they are civil with each other now), and Austen is now banging Naomie's hairstylist. Needless to say, this guy likes to keep his relations in a tight circle, so to speak. 

- they will reference Relationshep in the show, and Peyton filmed a few scenes with the cast. But there were heavy discussions during filming if her scenes will make the final cut.

- Kathryn was having a redemption arc but couldn't help but get into catfights with the new GF. Have you guys heard the rumor that she shafted Gywnn's after she was done filming the season?? Apparently the producers also did not know that was what Kathryn did after the season wrapped.

Interesting to read this now and see what proved true ... and not so true. 

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On 3/8/2018 at 12:34 PM, Major Bigtime said:

I heard she was working at Gwynn’s, which surprised me because she doesn’t like to work. She used them to have a storyline, I guess. And yes, I’ve been hearing about her over the top hatred of Thomas’ girlfriend. Girl... let it go, move on. Your kids will thank you later.

I read through these spoilers / predictions today. I guess we know this one was wrong, because now a lot of people admire Kathryn for her restraint in not beating Ashley’s ass all over South Carolina.  I think her kids might thank her for keeping them away from Trashley. 

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13 hours ago, Duke2801 said:

Interesting to read this now and see what proved true ... and not so true. 

Yes, I’m not sure whether the spoilers were simply inaccurate or if the discrepancies are a testament to just how much power editing can have over “reality,” as the spoiler included the disclaimer that it came from someone involved in the original filming.

Either way, thank you for the inside scoop, @slowpoked

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10 hours ago, link417 said:

Yes, I’m not sure whether the spoilers were simply inaccurate or if the discrepancies are a testament to just how much power editing can have over “reality,” as the spoiler included the disclaimer that it came from someone involved in the original filming.

Either way, thank you for the inside scoop, @slowpoked

You're welcome. I hope my inside scoop person will still be involved with filming next season ;)

Yes, the editing of this show can be pretty brutal, in the sense to actually bend reality in favor of a storyline. The cast themselves have been on record saying this. Craig and Shep lamenting that they didn't show the fun parts of Shep's yacht party last season. Shep just mentioned on WWHL that the episodes on HH didn't show half of what Ashley did, etc. I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing. But oh well. 

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That Kathryn got 50% custody WITHOUT the Ashley footage is nothing short of a credit to Kathryn.  Presenting that footage and whatever we didn’t see should be enough to put a restraining order on Ashley being anywhere around the children.  Alex Jones tried the defense of ‘oh, it was just an act’ and he lost total access to his kids.  This should be no different.

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49 minutes ago, b2H said:

That Kathryn got 50% custody WITHOUT the Ashley footage is nothing short of a credit to Kathryn.  Presenting that footage and whatever we didn’t see should be enough to put a restraining order on Ashley being anywhere around the children.  Alex Jones tried the defense of ‘oh, it was just an act’ and he lost total access to his kids.  This should be no different.

Kathryn for 50/50 custody because she successfully completed a parenting plan that had been in place over a year ago.

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On 7/14/2018 at 3:32 PM, b2H said:

That Kathryn got 50% custody WITHOUT the Ashley footage is nothing short of a credit to Kathryn.  Presenting that footage and whatever we didn’t see should be enough to put a restraining order on Ashley being anywhere around the children.  Alex Jones tried the defense of ‘oh, it was just an act’ and he lost total access to his kids.  This should be no different.

I know, right? You'd think it'd be easy for her now to get a restraining order against Ass having any contact with her children, especially now that she's got 50% custody again. Oy...I wouldn't want that psycho bitch near my kids.

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One thing to remember, this show is scripted and the “characters” are instructed which role to play. Production would probably step in to say “Hey, we told her to act that way.” No judge is going to give creedence to footage of a fake as hell reality show. If they did, Kathryn would be never granted any time with her children based on the footage of her screaming after Thomas and showing up drunk.

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13 hours ago, Major Bigtime said:

One thing to remember, this show is scripted and the “characters” are instructed which role to play. Production would probably step in to say “Hey, we told her to act that way.” No judge is going to give creedence to footage of a fake as hell reality show. If they did, Kathryn would be never granted any time with her children based on the footage of her screaming after Thomas and showing up drunk.

But I pointed out earlier:  Alex Jones' wife got full custody of the children in the divorce by playing tapes of his radio broadcast in the courtroom.  He lost the custody, using the defense of 'I'm just playing a character'.  The judge didn't buy it then.  Probably won't buy it now.

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31 minutes ago, b2H said:

Alex Jones' wife got full custody of the children in the divorce by playing tapes of his radio broadcast in the courtroom.  He lost the custody, using the defense of 'I'm just playing a character'.  The judge didn't buy it then.  Probably won't buy it now.

No it went from him having primary custody to joint 50/50 which he is now appealing.

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14 hours ago, Major Bigtime said:

One thing to remember, this show is scripted and the “characters” are instructed which role to play. Production would probably step in to say “Hey, we told her to act that way.” No judge is going to give creedence to footage of a fake as hell reality show. If they did, Kathryn would be never granted any time with her children based on the footage of her screaming after Thomas and showing up drunk.

I'm not sure running after Thomas/being drunk on TV is grounds for losing custody of your kids. Fighting and drinking aren't crimes.  I'm also not sure that Ashley's big mouth threats are grounds for anything. I think the courts focus on neglect and drugs.  I binged the whole series over the last few weeks...maybe because I came to it now that she's sober and more mature-Kathryn really doesn't seem so bad. Tedious, young, and stupid to be used by TRav - but if anything, to me he came off the worst over the 5 seasons. I'm not sure if the assault charges will wake him up or if he'll just continue on his path of drunken destruction.

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On 7/12/2018 at 6:56 PM, Duke2801 said:

Oh man I would pay - not a lot, but a little - to see the full, unedited footage of Ashley’s psychotic HH freak out. 

 

On 7/12/2018 at 7:33 PM, Babyfoot said:

Dear Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, and the Tooth Fairy, please, please, please, please let there be a ‘lost footage’ or ‘secrets revealed’ episode for season 5. 

A somewhat related note. Jennifer Snowden said either on Twitter and Instagram that she was specifically placed in between Ashley and Thomas during dinner because production knew she and Kathryn were still not on good terms. She genuinely defended Ashley that night because she thought she saw someone being unfairly ganged up on by having a nasty, unproven rumor circulate about her during the party. But she also said, to paraphrase, that everything else was production driven. I can imagine one of the things she may be referring to was Austen talking to Thomas about the rumor regarding Ashley, It kind of explains Austen - of all people!!!! - be the one to snitch to Thomas, and Austen acting aggressive, even to the point of saying to Jennifer "where do you even fit in all of this?!" Which is kinda funny if you think about it since it was Thomas and Jennifer who were having a pleasant conversation and Austen inserted himself in between the two of them, and then later on having the gall to say "Y'all were ganging up on me, I was talking to Thomas and you're constantly interrupting me..." 

Even if production driven though, muppet mouth still shows himself to be completely lacking in social etiquette and manners.

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5 hours ago, biakbiak said:

No it went from him having primary custody to joint 50/50 which he is now appealing.

Even so, using the “It’s just a character” defense doesn’t get you very far.

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Looks like filming for Season 6 is in full swing. Cameran posted a snap of her at Patricia’s, and one of the other SC gals posted a pic of Naomi and Danni there on their Instagram stories - sorry, can’t remember who exactly posted.

I think in light of Thomas being a giant assturd, the general icky behavior of the SC boys, as well as the #metoo movement, etc., that they would be wise to beef up the women’s cast and storylines. Here’s some stuff I gathered from my pathetic stalking:

1. Eliza Limehouse was at Patricia’s that night, too. ‘Memba her brief appearance Season 4? Not sure if she was filming, too, but she was definitely there.

2. Peyton still has “Southern Charm” and viewing info on her Instagram profile. Her moving to Charleston last year seemed particularly producer driven. 

3. Madison Lecroy, Pat’s hairstylist, dated Austen over the spring and summer. There was video circulating late spring/early summer of her catching Austen with 2  other women. She’s gorgeous. Haven’t noticed her filming, though, and nothing recently about Austen.

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According to Pat’s Instagram, Brice Sander from Entertainment Tonight (or is it E!?- don’t know , don’t care) interviewed KD and Patricia. Don’t know when it will air. Kathryn’s hair and makeup make her look ridiculous. Anyway, it prompted some baseless speculation/incoherent thoughts on my part.

1. I love Cameran but get the sense she may be done with the show. I base that on nothing. I wouldn’t be surprised if in upcoming seasons she is used in a friend of position, gradually weaning from full cast member. As Palmer gets older it will be harder to shield her from the ugly parts of reality tv.

2. I don’t buy the love fest between KD and Pat. 

3. I miss the joie de vivre of Season 1, in spite of - not because of- the ass-hattery of T Rav and KD.

4. I give not one shit about Austen’s beer business, love life, or storyline.  

5. Danni has been radio silent about KD on social media for several months. I know the Bravo editing sorcerers love to make minor exchanges into battles, but I get the sense there might be a substantial rift there. I could be wrong and Danni might have her head reinserted up KD’s ass. She seems to love it up there.

6. I agreed/sympathized with Naomie’s exasperation and frustration with the bumbling Craig. I do wonder what their interactions, if any, will be like. She has my approval to talk smack about him in French.

7. Again, based on nothing, but wouldn’t be surprised if KD got pregnant again very soon. Thomas? Shep? Craig? The aspiring musician? Michael the Butler? JD? She fishes in a very small pond.

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So let's start speculating on Season 7, hmm?

1. My guess is that production could've been delayed for a variety of reasons, but I suspect that Bravo Con might have had a small part in it.

2. Speaking of which, here are the cast members slated for Bravo Con: Patricia, Craig, Kathryn, Cameran, Austen, and Shep. Noticeably absent are: Chelsea, Eliza, and Naomie. Could this be a sign of a shakeup? I actually like those three but wouldn't be at all upset if Eliza is cut loose. She added little to the cast, other than real estate porn and bible quotes.

3. Apparently Austen and Madison are back together. Blergh. I still continue to give not one shit about Austen. How many times do you think they will break up and get back together before, during, and after filming? Blergh.

4. Here's who I would like to see more of this season: Gwynn's Madison, Cameran's friend Leva, and Michael the Butler. Gwynn's Madison is successful, bright and well-spoken. Leva, also bright and succesful, owns several restaurants in Charleston, and is now a partner with Craig in a Mexican/Sushi joint. Michael is simply the best. 

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19 hours ago, Juliegirlj said:

Word is that the entire first episode was scrapped by the production company- due to being utter crap. 

Yup, the production company sent in the first episode spec and Bravo sent it back on fire.

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I would like to believe that the ghouls at Bravo delayed production due to the terminal illnesses and tragic deaths of Kathryn's mother and Naomie's father. That would be the kind and considerate thing to do under these circumstances. But it is Bravo, so my guess is that it was because, as it has been speculated, preliminary footage was crap. It must’ve really reeked because this is the network that made NeNe, Theresa, and Ramona celebrities. 

Also, don't believe for one minute that Bravo asked Thomas to come back. 

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Must have not must of. I’m such a hillbilly.
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Patricia recently did a phone interview with Danny Pellegrino on his Everything Iconic podcast. Patricia spilled some cryptic tea:

1. Definitely said that there are new people but only said maybe (which I interpret as a yes) that some old cast are gone.

2. This season the show has a completely different look and feel than in seasons past.

3. Something that she finds very disturbing/ upsetting happens this season. Patricia seems uncomfortable with it but when Danny asked her if it would make good television, she admitted that it would. 

 

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On 3/25/2020 at 8:34 AM, Babyfoot said:

 

Patricia recently did a phone interview with Danny Pellegrino on his Everything Iconic podcast. Patricia spilled some cryptic tea:

1. Definitely said that there are new people but only said maybe (which I interpret as a yes) that some old cast are gone

 

I hope Chelsea stays, I need my Tyson fix!

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