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Thanks for starting the thread, windsprints. We needed it, lol. 

 

Well, good for Callie. Of course they have Arizona watching, but whatever. It was about time she moved on and be happy. 

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Free Alex indeed.

 

Maybe Derek was with his person, doing the same thing. Just yapping about nonsense in someone else's bed. Pretty sure she would be ok with that behavior, right?

 

Phone keeps going to voice mail? To me, that's sign that Derek doesn't have his phone but we'll have to endure the whole episode assuming he was with a tall perky woman. 

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They better not be trying to make MAM the new MAC....

Seriously.

This show used to do a better job of having characters interact with different people. For example: Meredith could have moments with Derek, Cristina, the rest of MAGIC, and Richard all in one episode. Now it's very much relegated to people only interacting with one or two other characters per episode.

I'd love to see Alex/Jackson sometimes. Or Callie/Bailey. Stuff like that. Mix up the interactions!

 

It comes down to the show having gotten lazy in the execution.

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Seriously.

This show used to do a better job of having characters interact with different people. For example: Meredith could have moments with Derek, Cristina, the rest of MAGIC, and Richard all in one episode. Now it's very much relegated to people only interacting with one or two other characters per episode.

I'd love to see Alex/Jackson sometimes. Or Callie/Bailey. Stuff like that. Mix up the interactions!

 

It comes down to the show having gotten lazy in the execution.

 

You are so right. It´s the same characters together all the time this season. It´s like 90% of this season: 

Meredith, Callie, Maggie,Alex - personal stuff

Meredith, Maggie, Bailey - surgeries, OR 

Richard,Maggie - father,daughter stuff

Owen, Amelia - whatever....

Richard,Owen - ex-chief, current chief

Callie, Owen - buddies

Arizona,Herman who will I guess be replaced with Amelia

Japril (duo)

Jo, Meredith, Alex

Bailey,Ben

Amelia, Stephanie - mentor, mentee

 

and that´s it.

 

No diversity, always the same people in scenes together and not just in 1 episode, in multiple episodes. So tired of it.

 

Exactly, they should mix up the characters, oh, I can say I used to enjoy this show. Also for the actors it would be more exciting to work with other people,too, why always the same ones??? It would add some variability into their work, mix different acting styles, attitudes to portraying the character.Dream on, dream on.....

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They're trying so hard, it's almost obvious he didn't.

I think it is obvious. He had a moment with someone, realized it and came home. If those scenes are it then he's self aware enough to know he needs to get off his ass and try to fix what is wrong in is marriage.  I usually find him annoying when he runs off but he seems to be trying to do the right thing here.  

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Yes, she played the doctor daughter of some superspy that the late NCIS director Jenny Sheppard was trying to get to. She had Tony seduce her. I think her name was Jeanne Gero or something like that.

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Thanks for the sneak peek, windsprints!

I don't believe for one second that Derek cheated. Maybe the fellow get's a little intense and flirty (per what is shown in the promo), but that's about the extent of it. Doesn't mean Meredith and Derek don't have their share of problems, because obviously they do.

 

But then why the fellow being so shady when answering the phone? Why not say, "he left his phone at work"??

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I am going to be so annoyed if this gets spun as "Derek is just SO dreamy that women throw themselves at him constantly and he doesn't realize and is such a nice guy that they get the wrong idea." Cut to " that stupid whore, how date she!!!! It's alllll her fault!!" Yada Yada.

I don't think he cheated, but no way are they going to convince me that he didn't love the attention and didn't twinkle his eyes at her, ruffle his hair or lean against something provocatively at the very least.

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It's so obvious now that he didn't, but I'll reserve judgment. I may be wrong but I heavely doubt that. 

 

But then why the fellow being so shady when answering the phone? Why not say, "he left his phone at work"??

Because that wouldn't cause drama and the writers are clueless about normalcy. They don't do "normal". 

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I am going to be so annoyed if this gets spun as "Derek is just SO dreamy that women throw themselves at him constantly and he doesn't realize and is such a nice guy that they get the wrong idea." Cut to " that stupid whore, how date she!!!! It's alllll her fault!!" Yada Yada.

 

Agree, considering they call him McDreamy, put his face all over the hospital and his looks/charm been commented about often enough throughout the series.

 

I'm sticking with what I thought a couple of weeks back when this was just spoilers - I don't think the real story is intended to be about whether Derek cheated or not. The promo has me believing that more now. Its not about Derek at all. Its about Meredith having to decide whether or not she trusts him and if she wants him in her life (again). They've made a point of driving home how awesome she finds herself without him and now the fact that after 7 years she still doesn't appear to trust him fully (going by the promo). I'm guessing (pure speculation) that the outcome will be them together after some grand gesture. Again.

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I hope all Meredith and Derek's scenes are at the house. Then the others can have scenes for themselves and not having to be MerDer cheerleaders again. Cheat, didn't cheat, let's just move along. I feel like this storyline has been going on forever.

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My guess is he pulls away at the last second but he looks open to being kissed for a second or two there.

You're probably right there. Hence why he leaves in such a rush. He was tempted and just left. 

 

I wonder if she knows Derek is married.

 

Given all the throwbacks to S1, it wouldn't be out of the question, but my guess is that she does, she just doesn't care. 

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 my guess is that she does, she just doesn't care.

 

 

Kind of like when Meredith slept with Derek at the prom.

I don't think we will be seeing her point of view so the only information we'll get is from Derek. I won't be surprised if one of Meredith's friends (as they were all 'Team MerDer') will be saying she didn't care that he was married and place all the blame on her. 

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I think theres a big difference between knowing someone is married before you get involved, and finding out they're married after you're already emotionally attached. I always thought Derek was the bad guy for not telling Meredith he was married, and then acting like it was somehow understandable and not that big of a deal that he never mentioned it to her.

It would be really weird for someone he works with now not to know he's married. Does he wear a wedding ring? They left on good terms, so I can't believe he wouldn't keep wearing it if he has one, or at least mention his marriage to people he meets there. And didn't they line up a job for Meredith there are some point? So the people who set this up know he's married.

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Does he wear a wedding ring?

No. Neither of them do. I recall Derek wore one when he was married to Addison but post-it vows don't get rings.

 

And didn't they line up a job for Meredith there are some point? So the people who set this up know he's married.

 

 

Not at the NIH. Even so, that'd mean his colleagues are supposed to know, not his residents. Either way, I'd find it odd if Derek hadn't mentioned it. 

 

I won't be surprised if one of Meredith's friends (as they were all 'Team MerDer') will be saying she didn't care that he was married and place all the blame on her.

I bet it will be Alex. He's the only one who calls out crap when he sees it. 

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Meredeth wasn't given a fair chance to decide not to get involved with a married man. She had already naturally developed feelings for him before knowing he was married. The prom sex was still cheating, but I give her more of a pass than I would have if she'd known he was married from the start. It's easier to prevent yourself from getting involved with someone when you know they aren't available than it is to turn off the feelings later. (I don't give him a pass, though. He knew and lied to everyone.) (Also, I think I would have tried harder to stay away from him just based on him being untrustworthy.)

It would be bizarre if he didn't mention his marriage to his new coworkers now. So if they try to set up that parallel it won't work very well for me.

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I bet it will be Alex. He's the only one who calls out crap when he sees it.

 

I can't see Alex blaming her at all. Alex never judged Meredith for all her ONS or even when she slept with George. If he calls anyone out I think it will be Derek when Meredith inevitably tells him all about it. 

 

LeGrandElephant I agree, it is different and it wasn't fair that she wasn't told.  I just don't agree with blaming it on the woman. Honestly, I doubt its much more than a moment but I don't see Derek as a victim.

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Derek is definitely not the victim. Whether or not his DC coworkers know that he's married, HE knows that he's married. He shouldn't let the situation get to where it does. If she knew he was married and goes for it anyway then her morals are questionable, but it still wouldn't absolve Derek from his role in it.

 

 

I won't be surprised if one of Meredith's friends (as they were all 'Team MerDer') will be saying she didn't care that he was married and place all the blame on her.

Even though Callie was all "Team MerDer!" last episode, I think she'd be the last person to put all the blame on the other woman seeing as she has first hand experience with being cheated on.

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I for one am really glad Derek cheated on Addison, and ordinarily I think cheating is horrible. It bothered me that Arizona cheated on Callie, and I don't care for either one of them a whole lot, but with Derek it didn't bother me, because he was treated like crap by two of the people he loved most. I could never forgive Addison for sleeping with Mark TO HURT DEREK on purpose. Then, she became pregnant by Mark, never told Derek, and THEN never told Derek about how long she was with Mark and that it wasn't just the one time. He should have told Meredith, yes, and was about to (albeit too late) when Addison showed up.

 

Here's another probably unpopular opinion - Derek's been treated like crap by Meredith this season. He has his share of bad qualities, but so does she, and after the things she's done to damage his career, he's off to once again to find greatness - apart from her. Surgery, impossible cases, and research are his aphrodisiac. He loved working with Meredith until she screwed him over with his trial, and now, he's probably finding that same excitement and magic with someone who is not his wife. So, I think we'll see his excitement and then have him back away when things get out of hand. I hope he doesn't kiss her, because that is cheating, but this whole episode is a symptom of a marriage that's been neglected, and a man who's pretty much been neglected as well.

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I dunno but that seems like a pretty popular opinion to me! Meredith has been terrible this season and I see a lot of people saying so on this board.

Regarding ancient history, Derek cheating on Addison can be viewed as tit for tat in how it affected Addison, since she cheated first. But the way it affected Meredith was completely unfair and put her in an untenable situation. And that was completely on Derek, not on Addison. Derek could have told her he was emotionally divorced but hadnt bothered to make it official, and she would have been able to go in with her eyes wide open, and choose to either risk it or to tell him she wasn't willing to date him until he was officially divorced. Instead, he lied (by omission, but still a big lie).

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I think I have watched that sneak peek a million times already! Lol The first few times I watched it I was hopeful that he was being honest when he told her that he had revealed everything to her about what happened. I was hopeful that the "flashbacks" had already happened and that Meredith knew everything. He even says "i'll go through it all again" to explan it to her again. However, the more I watch it the more I am convinced he has not truly told her everything yet. You can hear Meredith's voiceover in the beginning of the sneak. That tells me this is the very first scene of the episode and they have not had time to show the flashbacks yet. So I can't see how he could have told her everything. I hate this!!! Ugh!!!

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I can't see Alex blaming her at all.

I don't mean blaming her but at least calling her out (as the first part of the post said - be all like "you didn't care he was married") in a nonchalant way.

 

Derek is not a victim, he's a grown man with a functioning brain but I don't think that there is any victim in this story, Meredith included. They all did their part in getting where they are, including Derek having been neglected and Meredith having other ambitions and whatshername wanting a hot night with the doc. 

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I have no idea what whatsherface wanted, thought or knew about Derek and can't tell any of that from the promos. I don't think we'll even find out much about her or that it even matters. Derek will tell the story and we'll see a few flashbacks then that will be it. I can definitely see someone saying it was whatsherface all coming onto Derek when trying to make Meredith feel better. 

 

I think Meredith and Derek both are responsible for the state of their marriage but Derek had a choice on whether to look for attention elsewhere. Whatherface and Derek probably had some ongoing interactions for her to feel leaning in for kiss would be welcomed unless she's unbalanced.

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They aren't even going to kiss. The promos are hinting at it way too much for it to actually happen. I absolutely believe was totally enjoying being admired for the past couple of months but once she said she wanted to kiss him he'll back away.  I know his expression is supposed to look conflicted but he looks like he has gas pains.

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In the SP, Renee says "It's such a high".

 

Meredith said the same thing at the end of the episode 1X01, after her very first surgery with Derek (the cheerleader Katie Bryce)

 

I don't think it's a coincidence.

 

I'm think that maybe Derek's smile and his intense look mean he thinks about Meredith andthe beginning of his relationship

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I'm think that maybe Derek's smile and his intense look mean he thinks about Meredith andthe beginning of his relationship

And that he probably misses her. Dude looks beat though. For such an amazing discovery (whatever it is), he doesn't seem excited. 

 

he looks like he has gas pains.

 

I was joking that perhaps he was actually constipated and hence having an actual medical emergency rather than whatever cheating or maybe cheating it was and he had to rush home. 

 

However, I think he just looks tired. 

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CAN THE SHEPHERD RIVALRY JUST END ALREADY?

 

Yes Amy, Derek doesn't do second place but neither do you. Why don't you attempt to work with your more experienced brother instead of benching him in a corner because of your lame inferiority complex while standing like a superhero.  

 

Man, Mama Shepherd needs to come and put them in a time-out. 

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Promo:

 

 

CAN THE SHEPHERD RIVALRY JUST END ALREADY?

Yes Amy, Derek doesn't do second place but neither do you. Why don't you attempt to work with your more experienced brother instead of benching him in a corner because of your lame inferiority complex while standing like a superhero.

 

I wish they'd find a better storyline than doing this again.

 

I guess Amy doesn't trust that he won't try to take her job away even if he says it. It would be shitty of him to try to take her job since he was the one that asked her to move there and take it in the first place. He already came back trying to push her out once when Meredith wouldn't move. Now that he's back because he's choosing to he should work with the hierarchy he created in the first place (if he's telling the truth in the promo he is). He can't just expect her to bow in and out of the job based on where he decides to be. I hope Derek really does just want them to work together and its resolved in one episode. I would actually love to see them as siblings that get along and work together. Neither of them really have any friends so it would be nice to see them functional and make some use of their shared history.

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he was the one that asked her to move there and take it in the first place

Wasn't he doing her a favor? I didn't watch PP, but as an ex-junkie she wouldn't have had a lot of other offers where they wouldn't care about her history. She was a mess, wasn't she?

 

I would actually love to see them as siblings that get along and work together.

 

No. Just no. Then we will never get rid of her. (Or have them make nice with each other for 30 seconds, then have her hit by a bus or something. Derek has plenty of other sisters, he won't miss her.)

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She was a mess, wasn't she?

 

No, not by the end. She had worked through all of her problems, was in a relationship and had a practice. So no, she didn't need Derek's "favor". He wanted someone to take over his practice, help with his kids, etc. Both he and Meredith said that Amy was the answer to their problems.

then have her hit by a bus or something.

 

Repetitive. At least come up with something not yet done if you want to bump her off. 

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I would actually love to see them as siblings that get along and work together. Neither of them really have any friends so it would be nice to see them functional and make some use of their shared history.

It would be nice. Given the only episode in which they both collaborated, they were kind of a good team. Derek providing the path to Amelia's crazy ideas. I don't know why this is hard for the writers. I know that having your younger sibling be your boss can be a giant PITA but come on Derek, take one for the team and Amelia, get over yourself. Seriously, a time out.

 

Repetitive. At least come up with something not yet done if you want to bump her off.

 

Suggestions: falling off a cliff. Getting stabbed at the hospital (a la ER). Home accident. Burning down the dreamhouse and she couldn't get out. Crashed into a deer. Actually having an axe murderer. 

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I really hope this episode doesn't consist of Amelia mulling over whether or not to allow Derek to work under her. He's the one that gave her the Department Head job in the first place, the least she could do is allow him the courtesy of a job or, if that's not up to her, just deal with the fact that he's working under her. Just relax. He's back at GSMH to be close with his wife and family.

 

This sibling rivalry storyline isn't cute anymore. I was over it the first time they dealt with it back in season 7 or 8.

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Sneak Peek 1: Owen and Amelia

 

 

Someone at SGM commenting about personal relationships impacting professional decisions is few and far between so its surprising. I'm sure it will last all of 10 seconds though, this is Grey's afterall.

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