Sweet Fellowship: Duggars and Friends (aka the Bates Family and Other Featured Families Thread)

[BradandJanet]

Jill at the piano with her fake hair, fake upturned nose, and fake small chin. Too bad she didn't have time to make the photoshopping a little neater.  

[laurakaye]

2 hours ago, BradandJanet said:

Tim is panicked because his flight to Texas is cancelled. He goes to the airport and stands in a long line to beg for a ticket, which is not available. Instead of rescheduling for the next day, he hops in his car and drives 25 hours (30 with catnaps) to get to Texas. To get on a "fairy." To go to an island. To pose on the beach for a weird family photo. 

Given all he went through for this to get to Best Mama, it makes me wonder what the punishment would've been if he hadn't been able to make it - and what Jill could possibly take away from him that she hasn't already.

[Jeeves]

5 hours ago, BradandJanet said:

Tim is panicked because his flight to Texas is cancelled. He goes to the airport and stands in a long line to beg for a ticket, which is not available. Instead of rescheduling for the next day, he hops in his car and drives 25 hours (30 with catnaps) to get to Texas. To get on a "fairy." To go to an island. To pose on the beach for a weird family photo. 

I couldn't stand to read every word of Tim's blathering. But. Spirit Airlines has been experiencing a massive system-wide meltdown with a significant percentage of their flights cancelled. See this tabloid story: https://nypost.com/2021/08/05/spirit-airlines-expects-flight-cancellations-to-continue/

I can believe that Tim couldn't get another flight either on Spirit or another airline, because even if the next Spirit flights had not been cancelled, they were full. And, because of the Spirit flight cancellations, all seats on other airlines' flights were also booked.

[Edited later to add: @BradandJanet has informed us below that Tim actually knew before going to the airport that that his flight was cancelled and he said he tried to rebook, so I stand corrected about that but I'll leave this paragraph in as I wrote it although I was wrong on a premise.]  If Tim didn't realize his flight was cancelled until he showed up at the airport for it, he was so far behind the curve that he couldn't book a seat on any flights out probably for a few days. All seats had, I'm sure ,been grabbed by savvier passengers who'd been keeping track of flight status on their phones or 'puters, and jumped to change their plans as soon as they got the news. (I'm not the world's savviest traveler but I still remember a trip, before smartphones, when I walked to a gate for a connecting flight in a big airport far from home - and saw the status sign that it was cancelled. There were a lot of us who'd walked to that gate. Almost everybody else started trooping back to the airline counter. I sat down, pulled out my flip phone, called the airline and got a seat on the next flight out. I suspect not everyone who walked down to the counter got a seat. Just saying. When flights are cancelled and you need to book an alternative, time is of the essence.)

Tim really was up against it about getting a flight, but he was stupendously stupid and reckless as to how he decided to deal with it. I like road trips but I hate to think how many dangerously tired drivers are out there on the roads. Urgh.

Edited August 6, 2021 by Jeeves
"had been" doesn't = "had not been." Just saying.

[Ohiopirate02]

29 minutes ago, Jeeves said:

I couldn't stand to read every word of Tim's blathering. But. Spirit Airlines has been experiencing a massive system-wide meltdown with a significant percentage of their flights cancelled. See this tabloid story: https://nypost.com/2021/08/05/spirit-airlines-expects-flight-cancellations-to-continue/

I can believe that Tim couldn't get another flight either on Spirit or another airline, because even if the next Spirit flights had not been cancelled, they were full. And, because of the Spirit flight cancellations, all seats on other airlines' flights were also booked.

If Tim didn't realize his flight was cancelled until he showed up at the airport for it, he was so far behind the curve that he couldn't book a seat on any flights out probably for a few days. All seats had, I'm sure ,been grabbed by savvier passengers who'd been keeping track of flight status on their phones or 'puters, and jumped to change their plans as soon as they got the news. (I'm not the world's savviest traveler but I still remember a trip, before smartphones, when I walked to a gate for a connecting flight in a big airport far from home - and saw the status sign that it was cancelled. There were a lot of us who'd walked to that gate. Almost everybody else started trooping back to the airline counter. I sat down, pulled out my flip phone, called the airline and got a seat on the next flight out. I suspect not everyone who walked down to the counter got a seat. Just saying. When flights are cancelled and you need to book an alternative, time is of the essence.)

Tim really was up against it about getting a flight, but he was stupendously stupid and reckless as to how he decided to deal with it. I like road trips but I hate to think how many dangerously tired drivers are out there on the roads. Urgh.

Another parenting fail for Best Mamma Ever.  I have zero plans to fly anytime soon, and I would never fly Spirit. But, I know that Spirit is having a week because I actually consume mainstream media and have a smartphone with a Twitter account.  Tim needs to know what is going on in the world if he is to be a part of it no matter how small.  And checking to see your flight is still happening the day of before leaving the house is taking a flight 101, especially when you have to drive out of your way to get to the airport.  

[Rootbeer]

6 minutes ago, Ohiopirate02 said:

Another parenting fail for Best Mamma Ever.  I have zero plans to fly anytime soon, and I would never fly Spirit. But, I know that Spirit is having a week because I actually consume mainstream media and have a smartphone with a Twitter account.  Tim needs to know what is going on in the world if he is to be a part of it no matter how small.  And checking to see your flight is still happening the day of before leaving the house is taking a flight 101, especially when you have to drive out of your way to get to the airport.  

The shutdown of Spirit and the lack of flights in and out of Cleveland has been one of the top stories on the local news.  Too bad Tim isn't allowed to watch TV or listen to a radio station or he might've found out about the problem before he went to the airport.   

I presume he is not allowed to install apps on his cellphone without Jill's permission either and that's why he didn't install either the airline or the airport's app which would've notified him of the issue well in advance, too.  We know he couldn't possibly be allowed to access a computer by himself either, he is only 21 years old.  Heck, Jill probably made the flight reservation for him (using his money, of course) and told him when and where it was happening.

I can imagine Tim's panicky phone call from the airport to tell best Momma evah that he couldn't find a flight to Texas.  I am sure she immediately commanded him to get his a** down there pronto and perhaps even ordered him to  hop in the car and start driving.   Jill wouldn't give a dam* how long it would take or how much sleep he would lose. Momma wanted him there for the photo op and probably to impress David Waller with the obedience of her adult children.

To me, this sad tale just highlights the lack of agency and autonomy Jill's kids have.  Staying awake  for a day and a half on a cross country drive was less scary to Timbits than telling Jill he couldn't come.  

[iwantcookies]

I’m the best mama eva  my kids got a shower in the sprinklers and exercise at the same time. 

And no one fell and injured themselves while running in flip flops. Yay!

 

 

[BradandJanet]

Tim was notified the flight was cancelled. He tried to solve the problem by phone and online without success, so he must have some access to the outside world. He hoped showing up at the airport would answer his prayers. It didn't, but at least he collected his refund. 

Jill says she plans to have yearly "real" vacations with the entire family, and this is the first. I don't think Tim would dare not to show up for the big event. I doubt Jill takes disappointment well. Tim and Nathan will be paying for a lot of the meals and admissions too, so that's another reason Tim needs to be there. 

Would Jill admit she told Tim to drive to Texas? We may never know unless her mouth gets ahead of her. 

 

Edited August 6, 2021 by BradandJanet
missing word

[GeeGolly]

It took Tim 30 hours to get to TX. Couldn't he have just booked a flight for the following day and got there around the same time? And what was the urgency anyway? He was going to miss a photoshoot? Now, if he does still have his job, he'll need to leave early to drive back.

[iwantcookies]

This child is balding. I wonder what’s the cause. Best mama ever isn’t going to take her to a pediatrician doctor anytime soon

[Cinnabon]

3 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

It took Tim 30 hours to get to TX. Couldn't he have just booked a flight for the following day and got there around the same time? And what was the urgency anyway? He was going to miss a photoshoot? Now, if he does still have his job, he'll need to leave early to drive back.

He just put a lot of unnecessary wear and tear on his car, too. 

[SMama]

My MIL and her wife were emotionally and the wife physically abusive to my husband. They remind me of Jill. They were in shock when I stood up for him. I hope Tim finds someone who helps him realize his autonomy. The guy is 21 (?) and is still using his mom’s FB?

SGirl is 14 and unusually not interested in social media. It’s a relief to us because we were prepared for a battle of wills if we told her no SM at her age. We had to contact one of her teachers when she required the students to have an Instagram account and post weekly. Nope, no way. The teacher was surprised SGirl wasn’t already on several SM platforms like her peers. SGirl was her only student without SM. The teacher tried to talk us into an IG account. No, no way, SGirl was only 13 years old. We reached an agreement where SGirl would create the content and send to the teacher instead of posting. The teacher’s last email to us was a good luck getting SGirl a college placement without SM. We will take our chances. SGirl is starting high school next week in an engineering program, is a competitive swimmer, has a 4.0 during a pandemic, and is taking guitar lessons. No, she doesn’t need SM.

We do realize that once in HS she will engage in SM. SGirl’s reluctance is on our side. The one thing we won’t make her do is use our SM accounts to post. I think is bizarre how grown ass adults MUST post on Jill’s account. We opened a High School account for SGirl. She is going to pay for her school gym clothes, spirit shirts, field trips, and any other miscellaneous things from that account. No need for Mama and Baba to be there. Of course the money comes from us, but at 14 it’s a baby step towards independence.

Sorry about rambling, I feel sorry about the adult children in cults. Here we are working on independence for our daughter at 14, and she has more self autonomy than a grown ass man.
 

Edited August 6, 2021 by SMama

[libgirl2]

22 hours ago, iwantcookies said:

Single ladies I’m available for marriage! Dearest mama is included at no extra cost!

I wonder if he realized the two finger up like that mean something very interesting in England?

[xwordfanatik]

1 minute ago, libgirl2 said:

I wonder if he realized the two finger up like that mean something very interesting in England?

What does it mean in England?  COL (Clueless Old Lady) here.

[libgirl2]

1 minute ago, xwordfanatik said:

What does it mean in England?  COL (Clueless Old Lady) here.

Basically what the middle finger means here. 

[Boston]

22 hours ago, iwantcookies said:

Single ladies I’m available for marriage! Dearest mama is included at no extra cost!

Beware: perv/serial killer on the loose

[JoanArc]

 

42 minutes ago, SMama said:

The teacher’s last email to us was a good luck getting SGirl a college placement without SM.

 What a load of crap. If anything not having social media will give her a leg up. I can’t name a college that looks into social media for admissions, and it’s the only sort of thing that gets you kicked out or excluded from consideration. 

Tim should just boot from the family. I always wonder if they realize once they hit 18 they can leave. In any of the fundie families.  If you can get a hold of your birth certificate and the clothes on your back it’s best to run. 

[Cinnabon]

49 minutes ago, SMama said:

My MIL and her wife were emotionally and the wife physically abusive to my husband. They remind me of Jill. They were in shock when I stood up for him. I hope Tim finds someone who helps him realize his autonomy. The guy is 21 (?) and is still using his mom’s FB?

SGirl is 14 and unusually not interested in social media. It’s a relief to us because we were prepared for a battle of wills if we told her no SM at her age. We had to contact one of her teachers when she required the students to have an Instagram account and post weekly. Nope, no way. The teacher was surprised SGirl wasn’t already on several SM platforms like her peers. SGirl was her only student without SM. The teacher tried to talk us into an IG account. No, no way, SGirl was only 13 years old. We reached an agreement where SGirl would create the content and send to the teacher instead of posting. The teacher’s last email to us was a good luck getting SGirl a college placement without SM. We will take our chances. SGirl is starting high next week in an engineering program, is a competitive swimmer, has a 4.0 during a pandemic, and is taking guitar lessons. No, she doesn’t need SM.

We do realize that once in HS she will engage in SM. SGirl’s reluctance is on our side. The one thing we won’t make her do is use our SM accounts to post. I think is bizarre how grown ass adults MUST post on Jill’s account. We opened a High School account for SGirl. She is going to pay for her school gym clothes, spirit shirts, field trips, and any other miscellaneous things from that account. No need for Mama and Baba to be there. Of course the money comes from us, but at 14 it’s a baby step towards independence.

Sorry about rambling, I feel sorry about the adult children in cults. Here we are working on independence for our daughter at 14, and she has more self autonomy than a grown ass man.
 

How does SM help with college admissions?

6 minutes ago, JoanArc said:

 

 What a load of crap. If anything not having social media will give her a leg up. I can’t name a college that looks into social media for admissions, and it’s the only sort of thing that gets you kicked out or excluded from consideration. 

Tim should just boot from the family. I always wonder if they realize once they hit 18 they can leave. In any of the fundie families.  If you can get a hold of your birth certificate and the clothes on your back it’s best to run. 

I had problems with bullying and gossip in middle school. I can’t imagine how traumatic it would have been with social media. 

[sagittarius sue]

24 minutes ago, libgirl2 said:

Basically what the middle finger means here. 

Yes, palm out means V for victory, palm in means FU.

[Jeeves]

1 hour ago, BradandJanet said:

Tim was notified the was cancelled. He tried to solve the problem by phone and online without success, so he must have some access to the outside world. He hoped showing up at the airport would answer his prayers. It didn't, but at least he collected his refund. 

Oh, good to know and thanks for telling me. I really should have waded through his post before going off on a rant.

But it is true that "he could have just caught the next flight out" was not really an option, IMO, based on the big issues that Spirit airlines is having. 

[GeeGolly]

Here, palm out is peace, and palm in is victory.

And yes, SM gets high school kids and college kids into all kinds of trouble. I'm sure most schools just wish it would all go away.

[xwordfanatik]

1 hour ago, JoanArc said:

 

 What a load of crap. If anything not having social media will give her a leg up. I can’t name a college that looks into social media for admissions, and it’s the only sort of thing that gets you kicked out or excluded from consideration. 

Tim should just boot from the family. I always wonder if they realize once they hit 18 they can leave. In any of the fundie families.  If you can get a hold of your birth certificate and the clothes on your back it’s best to run. 

I agree.  I like to think that if I had been unfortunate enough to be born into a cult, I am headstrong enough that brainwashing wouldn't have worked on me, not to this degree, anyway.  

These poor souls really don't seem to have a prayer (pun intended) of breaking free.  How utterly sad.  

[Ohiopirate02]

1 hour ago, Jeeves said:

Oh, good to know and thanks for telling me. I really should have waded through his post before going off on a rant.

But it is true that "he could have just caught the next flight out" was not really an option, IMO, based on the big issues that Spirit airlines is having. 

I went back and reread Tim's post and I can't shake the feeling that the only satisfactory answer Tim wanted from the airline was him getting to Houston.  The refund was a bonus.  I cannot imagine the representative at Hopkins did anything more than what customer service would have done on the phone.  Best Mamma Ever expected Tim to be in Houston, so Tim went to the airport to make that happen.  Now some of this is going to be due to Tim being in his early 20s and not having the life experience to know he was going to get the same result in person as over the phone.  None of us knew this at his age.  I'm sure he was a mess trying to figure out how to get his ass down to Texas before Jill has a meltdown.  If he really was up for 18 hours before setting out on his roadtrip (I think Timmy is exaggerating here just like BME taught him), then that would also effect his critical thinking skills.  Hindsight is 20/20, and maybe Tim will now know that he should have multitasked and called Spirit while en route to Texas.  He would have still gotten his refund, and he would not have wasted so much time and money.  

 

[madpsych78]

I see BME and I know it means Best Momma Ever, but I just think Bowel Movement Extraordinaire. I guess it's not that different in the case of JillRod lol!

Yeah, I find it really telling that Tim was more concerned with getting to Texas on time, even though there was no real emergency involved, than in waiting for the next available flight to show up even if the next day. 

[SMama]

1 hour ago, JoanArc said:

 

 What a load of crap. If anything not having social media will give her a leg up. I can’t name a college that looks into social media for admissions, and it’s the only sort of thing that gets you kicked out or excluded from consideration. 

 

Thank you, we mean it. 

[MargeGunderson]

4 hours ago, laurakaye said:

Given all he went through for this to get to Best Mama, it makes me wonder what the punishment would've been if he hadn't been able to make it - and what Jill could possibly take away from him that she hasn't already.

God that’s bleak to contemplate.

[JoanArc]

26 minutes ago, SMama said:

Thank you, we mean it. 

I know a 15 year old girl that has banned from social media by her parents until she’s 18. This world has been in place her entire life. She is healthy and well adjusted. No one needs social media, especially at their age is. I Porn out to the teacher that she (the teacher) grew up without social media just fine, as did every other parent.  Social media is not the best idea for mental health, especially for kids. I would spend a lot of time letting your daughter know how fake and meaningless it is. Lots and lots and lots of examples. And let her know she’s pretty much going to get bullied no matter what she posts. Just not worth it to me. 

[Spazamanaz]

4 hours ago, SMama said:

My MIL and her wife were emotionally and the wife physically abusive to my husband. They remind me of Jill. They were in shock when I stood up for him. I hope Tim finds someone who helps him realize his autonomy. The guy is 21 (?) and is still using his mom’s FB?

SGirl is 14 and unusually not interested in social media. It’s a relief to us because we were prepared for a battle of wills if we told her no SM at her age. We had to contact one of her teachers when she required the students to have an Instagram account and post weekly. Nope, no way. The teacher was surprised SGirl wasn’t already on several SM platforms like her peers. SGirl was her only student without SM. The teacher tried to talk us into an IG account. No, no way, SGirl was only 13 years old. We reached an agreement where SGirl would create the content and send to the teacher instead of posting. The teacher’s last email to us was a good luck getting SGirl a college placement without SM. We will take our chances. SGirl is starting high school next week in an engineering program, is a competitive swimmer, has a 4.0 during a pandemic, and is taking guitar lessons. No, she doesn’t need SM.

We do realize that once in HS she will engage in SM. SGirl’s reluctance is on our side. The one thing we won’t make her do is use our SM accounts to post. I think is bizarre how grown ass adults MUST post on Jill’s account. We opened a High School account for SGirl. She is going to pay for her school gym clothes, spirit shirts, field trips, and any other miscellaneous things from that account. No need for Mama and Baba to be there. Of course the money comes from us, but at 14 it’s a baby step towards independence.

Sorry about rambling, I feel sorry about the adult children in cults. Here we are working on independence for our daughter at 14, and she has more self autonomy than a grown ass man.
 

I commend your choices. I did the same with my son. My son wasn't very interested in SM either, he's 18 now and still isn't into it. Teenage years are difficult to navigate without the hassle of SM, I'm glad it wasn't around when I was their age. That teachers comment was laughable, what an idiot! You are doing a great job raising your daughter, I wish more parents would take a stand and just say no. (To SM)  and to keep this on topic, Jill is a... You know, I don't think there are any new words we can come up with that haven't already been used, to describe Jill.

[iwantcookies]

8 hours ago, BradandJanet said:

Jill at the piano with her fake hair, fake upturned nose, and fake small chin. Too bad she didn't have time to make the photoshopping a little neater.  

She should have deleted the flabby arms haha

 

[farmgal4]

On 8/5/2021 at 6:18 PM, crazycatlady58 said:

Why is everyone so dark? They are usually pale and now they are ... not and what's going on with the girl on the white dress? She looks odd, poor thing. 

The girl in the white dress (can’t remember her name) looks greatly undernourished, which is a nice way of saying “looks like she’s starving to death”.

[heckkitty]

On 8/5/2021 at 12:31 PM, crazy8s said:

Timothy has a new post on Jill's page about how his flight to meet the family on Spirit got cancelled and he drove 24 hrs straight while already being awake 18 hrs or some nonsense. Anyway he felt need to take a lot of pics while driving on no sleep.

the caption here had me dying laughing

"On the fairy"🤣🤣🤣. Somebody send help, I might be dead.

[farmgal4]

6 hours ago, SMama said:

My MIL and her wife were emotionally and the wife physically abusive to my husband. They remind me of Jill. They were in shock when I stood up for him. I hope Tim finds someone who helps him realize his autonomy. The guy is 21 (?) and is still using his mom’s FB?

SGirl is 14 and unusually not interested in social media. It’s a relief to us because we were prepared for a battle of wills if we told her no SM at her age. We had to contact one of her teachers when she required the students to have an Instagram account and post weekly. Nope, no way. The teacher was surprised SGirl wasn’t already on several SM platforms like her peers. SGirl was her only student without SM. The teacher tried to talk us into an IG account. No, no way, SGirl was only 13 years old. We reached an agreement where SGirl would create the content and send to the teacher instead of posting. The teacher’s last email to us was a good luck getting SGirl a college placement without SM. We will take our chances. SGirl is starting high school next week in an engineering program, is a competitive swimmer, has a 4.0 during a pandemic, and is taking guitar lessons. No, she doesn’t need SM.

We do realize that once in HS she will engage in SM. SGirl’s reluctance is on our side. The one thing we won’t make her do is use our SM accounts to post. I think is bizarre how grown ass adults MUST post on Jill’s account. We opened a High School account for SGirl. She is going to pay for her school gym clothes, spirit shirts, field trips, and any other miscellaneous things from that account. No need for Mama and Baba to be there. Of course the money comes from us, but at 14 it’s a baby step towards independence.

Sorry about rambling, I feel sorry about the adult children in cults. Here we are working on independence for our daughter at 14, and she has more self autonomy than a grown ass man.
 

That sounds like great parenting to me, SMama.  Well done. 👏🏻

[farmgal4]

6 hours ago, JoanArc said:

 

 What a load of crap. If anything not having social media will give her a leg up. I can’t name a college that looks into social media for admissions, and it’s the only sort of thing that gets you kicked out or excluded from consideration. 

Tim should just boot from the family. I always wonder if they realize once they hit 18 they can leave. In any of the fundie families.  If you can get a hold of your birth certificate and the clothes on your back it’s best to run. 

I think the Rods brainwashing runs so deep that their kids truly believe that they can’t really leave until they’re married.

[farmgal4]

23 hours ago, crazycatlady58 said:

Well,  she needs to take lessons that is a horrible picture. 

I think all of her pictures are fuzzy and awful.  I thought it might be caused by a cheap phone.

[emmawoodhouse]

1 hour ago, farmgal4 said:

I think all of her pictures are fuzzy and awful.  I thought it might be caused by a cheap phone.

A lot of what's shown here are screenshots. That accounts for much of the bluriness. 

[Liddy52]

Jill R just posted some pictures and videos on Facebook about a vacation house they stayed in. It looked pricey to me. There were videos of the kids swimming in the pool in street clothes and of the exterior of the house. All were blurry and she always moves the camera so quickly it gives me motion sickness.  

[iwantcookies]

 

The eyebrows are tragic!

 

Look what she did to Tessa’s eyebrows. 😞

[emmawoodhouse]

So they didn't go to Big Sandy. Interesting.

And I posted before/afters regarding poor Tessie's eyebrows a few days ago. Sad. 

[Portia]

16 hours ago, floridamom said:

Never end a sentence with "at". This woman is homeschooling her children.

Actually, I think most English teachers have finally abandoned that silly rule. Jill's writing is undeniably weak, but it in my opinion it would only be worsened by awkwardly shifting the entire prepositional phrase to the end of the sentence. ("The church at which we parked" is weirdly formal for the context.)

One good rule of thumb that's worth holding onto, however, is to omit a preposition at the end that isn't part of a prepositional phrase. For example, it's just "Where are you?", not "Where are you at?"

[Absolom]

Right, the church where we parked is quite sufficient on its own. 

[awaken]

Nurie always looks apologetic with those clown-like eyebrows. 

[emmawoodhouse]

10 minutes ago, Absolom said:

Right, the church where we parked is quite sufficient on its own. 

That's how I would have written it. 

[iwantcookies]

24 minutes ago, emmawoodhouse said:

So they didn't go to Big Sandy. Interesting.

And I posted before/afters regarding poor Tessie's eyebrows a few days ago. Sad. 

Couldn’t get in for free !

 

Wonder who paid for the rental? Doubt it’s Ma and Pa freeloaders...

Edited August 7, 2021 by iwantcookies

[emmawoodhouse]

I hope the homeowners see those videos of the kids in the pool fully clothed. 

[riverblue22]

28 minutes ago, iwantcookies said:

Couldn’t get in for free !

 

Wonder who paid for the rental? Doubt it’s Ma and Pa freeloaders...

They weren't able to grift Big Sandy, but somehow they managed to get a free ride on a vacation property~

[emmawoodhouse]

18 minutes ago, riverblue22 said:

They weren't able to grift Big Sandy, but somehow they managed to get a free ride on a vacation property~

I'd think that nice house, at market rates, would have been more costly than Big Sandy given that they stayed there about a week.

[GeeGolly]

Josie Bates vague posted an IG story. She's filming herself with the lead stickers still on, possibly from an EKG, and said she spent the night in the ER

[crazy8s]

8 hours ago, emmawoodhouse said:

So they didn't go to Big Sandy. Interesting.

this was their year for big sandy - if someone would have invited them, it would have been free and the inviting family would have received half off. Says a lot no one would invite the Rods.

 

[libgirl2]

13 hours ago, Spazamanaz said:

I commend your choices. I did the same with my son. My son wasn't very interested in SM either, he's 18 now and still isn't into it. Teenage years are difficult to navigate without the hassle of SM, I'm glad it wasn't around when I was their age. That teachers comment was laughable, what an idiot! You are doing a great job raising your daughter, I wish more parents would take a stand and just say no. (To SM)  and to keep this on topic, Jill is a... You know, I don't think there are any new words we can come up with that haven't already been used, to describe Jill.

My son never got that much into SM. He does online gaming though. 

10 hours ago, iwantcookies said:

 

The eyebrows are tragic!

 

Look what she did to Tessa’s eyebrows. 😞

Good God what a bunch of sad eyebrows. 

[Westiepeach]

Looks like the Not Nurie on the right hasn’t reached “eyebrow age.” Didn’t the one on the left just have a birthday?  Maybe the eyebrow thing is a right of passage. 🙄

[ginger90]

It’s blurry, it’s  from a video. Pool attire: