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11 hours ago, Temperance said:

This is John Shrader's newest poem. He also has a new video on youtube. (Look for John Shrader on youtube. He's a missionary to Zambia.) He's married to the oldest Keller sibling Esther and they have 11 children with #12 on the way. (The other Keller siblings include Priscilla Waller, Anna Duggar, and Nurie's beau Nathan Keller plus Esther and four more). 

A Tribute To My Parents Being Real

I'd like to share a tribute,
And tell you a great truth
About the two that raised me,
Brought me up from my youth

My parents are not perfect,
Such never will be found
But I'd like to tell you something,
A truth about them to resound

My whole life I have noticed,
That many in ministry
Are one way when in front,
But outside something else you'll see

And Jesus pointedly warned us,
Of the "leaven of the Pharisees"
And He gave the explanation,
That "leaven" is hypocrisy

I've seen it in the pulpits,
On mission fields I've found
I have seen it in lives of deacons,
Others "leaders" who with praises were crowned

One thing about my parents,
That today I tell to you
They never claimed perfection,
But they were honest through and through

They did not act pretentious,
To be something they are not
Why those in leadership that do this,
On God's ministry are a blot

It turns the hearts of people,
To view hypocrisy
One acts one way in private,
But different when others can see

But a person who's consistent,
Who truly shows God's Heart
Well that is called veracity,
It made me want to take their part

I boldly stand and testify,
From my heart with godly zeal
One of the greatest gifts my parents gave me,
Was that before me they were real

They truly had compassion,
For the people in the flock
And even when some left or slandered them,
Their love for them never stopped

I've watched my father keep loving,
Even those who cursed his name
He even kept loving the ones,
Who stood publicly to cause him shame

Now that's the heart of a shepherd,
Who truly loves the sheep
And my mother never stopped praying,
Even for ones who cost her sleep

I could tell you so many stories,
How their love never ran out
They truly loved the unlovely,
I saw Jesus in them without doubt

They didn't just care for the helpful,
They didn't just love the good
They even loved those who split the church
Just as Jesus taught we should

My parents are just simple people,
Not flashy or very well known
They have never sought reputation,
As through the decades the Seed of Life sown

But for this I deeply thank them,
And from my lips its truth now peal
That whether strengths or even their foibles
My parents have always been real.

Bro. John Shrader
Zambia

Well, I know he has screws loose and probably hasn't given one thought to what he's putting his own wife and children through by his shenanigans. And is thus a jerk and/or a loony is some quite significant ways.

But if he truly feels this way about his parents -- and if they actually are sort of the way he describes them here....then I think that, all things considered, this is a pretty good tribute to people who must have some significant good qualities (whatever else may be true of him)

I can't get on him for writing poetry-that's-low-quality. Most of us write pretty low-quality poetry, if we have the nerve to try writing poetry at all.....

I'd actually much rather see somebody -- anybody -- write childlike low-quality poetry than preserve their egos by never trying to write poetry because they fear they'll fail, actually. 

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33 minutes ago, Churchhoney said:

But if he truly feels this way about his parents -- and if they actually are sort of the way he describes them here....then I think that, all things considered, this is a pretty good tribute to people who must have some significant good qualities (whatever else may be true of him)

I just think it's his way of kissing up to Daddy to keep the dollars from his church rolling in, but I'm skeptical like that.  

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21 minutes ago, Normades said:

I just think it's his way of kissing up to Daddy to keep the dollars from his church rolling in, but I'm skeptical like that.  

I expect you're absolutely right......I have the same suspicion! ........I still like to hope for the best of people where I can, though. I mean, maybe he actually means it about his mom, for example! 😄

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On 10/28/2019 at 1:10 AM, farmgal4 said:

In a different IG pic she looks like she’s skin and bones, skinnier than I’ve ever seen her look.  You can see in her face how terribly thin she is.  Her hair looks dead, because she’s malnourished, and she looks like she’s 45-50 years old.  It’s sad and pathetic.  

If she suffers from chronic malnutrition, wouldn't that impact her ability to conceive/carry/deliver all the babies she'll be expected to produce? Even if she starts to eat regularly and put on weight after she's married, the damage her body has suffered may be permanent.

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Jill doesn’t care. As long as the girls get married off trim. I mean that’s all that matters right? Skinny, brain washed robots is what Jill and David created.

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Jill Rod has posted a Facebook story that says they're all staying in a hotel while they shop for a house. So they must have sold their house. I'm curious to see where they end up and what it looks like. Meanwhile, she says they forgot to bring "swim clothes" to the hotel, but that didn't stop them from swimming. She includes photos of a bunch of the kids fully clothed, jumping around in the pool.

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Frankly they are lucky that no one has drowned yet. And if they do Rods will sue and blame the evil hotel for not saving them.

2 minutes ago, OpieTaylor said:

Here's one of the pics. Can you imagine the girls' makeup and hair products just running off into the pool?

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Happy Halloween from the corpses😞😞😞😞. The girls look awful.

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How can they swim in regular clothes? 

Those clothes would be so heavy. I know I wouldn’t find it fun

How are they affording a hotel?

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58 minutes ago, OpieTaylor said:

Here's one of the pics. Can you imagine the girls' makeup and hair products just running off into the pool?

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That's just gross.

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58 minutes ago, galaxychaser said:

Frankly they are lucky that no one has drowned yet. And if they do Rods will sue and blame the evil hotel for not saving them.

Happy Halloween from the corpses😞😞😞😞. The girls look awful.

All joking aside, Nurie looks at least 40 years old.  A rode-hard-put-up-wet 40 year old. 

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Aren't you supposed to rinse off before getting in the pool?! And regular clothes are not appropriate swim attire, Jill!

Would Jill claim persecution if someone complained that they were swimming fully clothed against pool rules? (What am I saying, of course she would. She has before, hasn't she?)

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 So that poem is about Anna’s parents? That man has way too much time on his hands, especially considering he has 11 kids to keep busy with! 

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9 minutes ago, awaken said:

 So that poem is about Anna’s parents? That man has way too much time on his hands, especially considering he has 11 kids to keep busy with! 

That’s the job for wifey and daughters. His job is to order her to get him a sandwich and be joyfully available.

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21 minutes ago, awaken said:

 So that poem is about Anna’s parents? That man has way too much time on his hands, especially considering he has 11 kids to keep busy with! 

No, the poem is about his parents. His father is his chief enabler.

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4 minutes ago, Sew Sumi said:

No, the poem is about his parents. His father is his chief enabler.

Maybe Schrader padre figures that if junior is in Africa god-bothering people, padre won't have to deal with him (and the zillion kids) as often. You know junior must be effing insufferable in person, and the kids messy, noisy, and needy. 

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Yeah, I've had that thought, but John is his Golden Child. He's the only one who remained IFB. I'll never forget how Shrader slandered his sister after she died following a brutal battle with cancer. As far as I know, Pa Shrader didn't denounce John for what he said about his own daughter. 

They are both horrible people.

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1 minute ago, Sew Sumi said:

Yeah, I've had that thought, but John is his Golden Child. He's the only one who remained IFB. I'll never forget how Shrader slandered his sister after she died after a brutal battle with cancer. As far as I know, Pa Shrader didn't denounce John for what he said about his own daughter. 

They are both horrible people.

What was said about the sister?

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He basically said that she died because she rejected God (or the "right" God, can't remember now). No love or respect to be found in his screed. 

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He even asked for the money people would have donated to her daughter.  He said something like he knew she would have wanted it to support his ministry.

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7 hours ago, Churchhoney said:

I can't get on him for writing poetry-that's-low-quality.

Damn. You are soooo much nicer than I am.

(The man rhymed “flock” and “stopped,” is all I’m saying.)

ETA: “On God's ministry are a blot” 

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1 hour ago, Absolom said:

He even asked for the money people would have donated to her daughter.  He said something like he knew she would have wanted it to support his ministry.

This is despicable. 

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1 hour ago, Absolom said:

He even asked for the money people would have donated to her daughter.  He said something like he knew she would have wanted it to support his ministry.

Wow, that's a whole new level of scum.

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I'm not sure the Rods even own any swimwear.They got kicked out of a campground for swimming in their clothes.

John S. also grifted money from a girl who was crying, as her dad was making her give away all of the grad. money she'd received as gifts.I think it was about $800.Most of us agreed we would have not accepted the money,and had a little chat w the dad about how the givers wanted HER to have it.Or just accept $20 and tell her that's all you need.But NO,John of course,kept it ALL

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5 hours ago, galaxychaser said:

Jill doesn’t care. As long as the girls get married off trim. I mean that’s all that matters right? Skinny, brain washed robots is what Jill and David created.

Yes, she's obsessed with them being trim, but she has to know that in a few years, the only option for babies being born is grandchildren, so she may not have thought that one through. 

On a related note, has she said anything lately about her youngest daughter, who may have challenges? 

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9 hours ago, Oldernowiser said:

Damn. You are soooo much nicer than I am.

(The man rhymed “flock” and “stopped,” is all I’m saying.)

ETA: “On God's ministry are a blot” 

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11 hours ago, OpieTaylor said:

Here's one of the pics. Can you imagine the girls' makeup and hair products just running off into the pool?

RodsSwimming.JPG

This is just... I hope the place they’re staying at is a motel with outdoor entrances to rooms, because if it’s not they dripped what has to be gallons of pool water onto the carpets of the hotel hallways. Those typically aren’t wetvac’d so hello mold! Such a lack of manners and consideration for others, but I shouldn’t be surprised JillRod is a narcissist.

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15 minutes ago, ChaChaSlide said:

This is just... I hope the place they’re staying at is a motel with outdoor entrances to rooms, because if it’s not they dripped what has to be gallons of pool water onto the carpets of the hotel hallways. Those typically aren’t wetvac’d so hello mold! Such a lack of manners and consideration for others, but I shouldn’t be surprised JillRod is a narcissist.

Oh well, I'm sure that over time, the hotel's had guests who got drunk and jumped, fell, or were pushed into the pool fully clothed. They must have contingency plans to deal with nasty behavior by guests so can take the Rods in stride. Though the thought of all those unwashed bodies and clothes in the pool is - icky.

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In the past when the Rods gone swimming fully clothed (so many times), people have said that cotton fibers really ruin the pool's filter system.  That's why there are signs saying to wear a swimsuit!  I hope we get to hear Jill rant about christian prosecution after they get kicked out of yet another pool. 

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This is such a pet peeve of mine! I HATE when people swim in their street clothes. It's so disgusting. Whenever i'm at any pool, I will admit to being "that" person that reports people for it. It's just so ugh. 

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I seriously doubt that they forgot their swim clothes.  Their street clothes are their swim clothes.  I come from a big family and anytime we were going to stay in a motel or hotel, we always jumped up and down asking if there was a pool. Then we packed accordingly. I'm sure the Rod kids do too, since they clearly love to swim when given the opportunity.  My pool says no street clothes allowed, but rules like that do not apply to the Rods.  Yes, JRod will most certainly cry persecution if they were called out for swimming in their clothes.  

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Jill R. is such a liar.  Have we ever seen any of them in swimwear?  For various reasons I wear "modest" swim clothes.  Long pants and a long sleeve, hip length top.  You can get them in form fitting lycra or a looser fit.  Either way the fabric is appropriate for swimming and accepted by pools.   Bikinis aren't the only choice for swimming.

When is Nurie's wedding?  I feel so sorry for that girl.  For the gown I'm picturing a cheap Princess Diana style and really BIG hair.  I hope Nurie and her husband move far away.

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23 minutes ago, beagletime said:

When is Nurie's wedding?  I feel so sorry for that girl.  For the gown I'm picturing a cheap Princess Diana style and really BIG hair.  I hope Nurie and her husband move far away.

When Hell freezes over because they already had elbow sex.

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Jill is a smug liar. Getting in the pool in street clothes is intentional; jill just likes to show off how "special" the family is. However, I take bit of joy in thinking what the chlorine is doing to those cotton clothes. 

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4 minutes ago, BradandJanet said:

Jill is a smug liar. Getting in the pool in street clothes is intentional; jill just likes to show off how "special" the family is. However, I take bit of joy in thinking what the chlorine is doing to those cotton clothes. 

Jill is probably teaching the children to lie.  I'm sure Jill tells them to say they forgot their swim suits if they are questioned.

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They look like a bunch of 5th graders on the last day of Drownproofing Week at the local pool.  

Not only must the clothes be heavy to swim in, I can't imagine walking around with soaking wet clothes on when they got out.  They must have doubled their weight.

It's hard to tell from the picture but it looks like Nurie (at the end) has a cowl or turtleneck type of shirt on.  Really??

I'm sure they don't own any sort of larger beach towels and had to use a zillion hand and bath towels.  That poor housekeeper- Can you imagine all the sopping wet towels lying around she had to pick up & take care of?   I feel sorry for the housekeeper anyway that she has to clean up after this family. It has to be a trashy mess.  All that work for a David's press bible tract tip. 

I feel sorry for the motel staff & other guests.

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1 hour ago, galaxychaser said:

Nuri isn’t engaged yet. Yet that hussy did indeed had elbow sex.

I find an unengaged girl participating in elbow sex to be very sluttish!!

Just like when women wear pants.  

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11 hours ago, becca3891 said:

Yes, she's obsessed with them being trim, but she has to know that in a few years, the only option for babies being born is grandchildren, so she may not have thought that one through. 

On a related note, has she said anything lately about her youngest daughter, who may have challenges? 

No, she hasn’t mentioned the baby’s condition in a while.  I think she’s probably stuck between a rock and a hard place, because she exaggerated the details, and now it’s becoming apparent that the baby isn’t as bad off as she made it sound.  I think Jill exaggerates everything because of her victim mentality.  I want to stress that I’m very glad that the baby is doing well and by all appearances seems to be a normal toddler.  It’s bad enough that the poor little thing is stuck with a full-fledged narcissistic lunatic of a mother.

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I’m pretty sure that at her kids weddings Jill will be dressed like a bride with a white pretty dress that costs triple on what her kids wear. No one outshines MAMA.

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7 minutes ago, galaxychaser said:

I’m pretty sure that at her kids weddings Jill will be dressed like a bride with a white pretty dress that costs triple on what her kids wear. No one outshines MAMA.

Jill cries poor, but she certainly finds money for herself. As bestest mother ever, she deserves it, of course. 

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44 minutes ago, BradandJanet said:

Jill cries poor, but she certainly finds money for herself. As bestest mother ever, she deserves it, of course. 

Exactly. Hair bleach, makeup, acrylic nails, upgraded wedding set. Even if she's using cheap products, it's still unnecessary spending. She certainly doesn't deny herself anything. 

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3 hours ago, BradandJanet said:

Jill is a smug liar. Getting in the pool in street clothes is intentional; jill just likes to show off how "special" the family is. However, I take bit of joy in thinking what the chlorine is doing to those cotton clothes. 

She wants to be kicked out so she can scream persecution .

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 Are ALL of the Rods staying in one hotel room?

Who is paying for this stay 

As stated above, I feel bad for the housekeeping staff - can you imagine the sty/sties they face each morning?!! 

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13 minutes ago, PradaKitty said:

 Are ALL of the Rods staying in one hotel room?

I wonder about that myself.  The more I think about it, tho, I doubt Jill would allow her kids to stay in a separate room or be inclined to spend any extra money on their comfort, so I'm guessing same room.

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16 minutes ago, PradaKitty said:

 Are ALL of the Rods staying in one hotel room?

Who is paying for this stay 

As stated above, I feel bad for the housekeeping staff - can you imagine the sty/sties they face each morning?!! 

When they travel in their camper thingy, they all stay in the same vehicle at night at a campground.  A hotel room cannot be any tighter than that.  If nothing else, the closet that the baby sleeps in is undoubtedly larger.

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