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1 minute ago, GeeGolly said:

In the pic of Carlin and Evan there's a blue seal or something on the nightstand. Is that tubing, like for an oxygen mask wrapped around it?

Never mind, looked it up. I'm guessing Layla has been sick as well.

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If CarVan are definitely positive for covid, I hope that baby is elsewhere.

 

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This is pure speculation ...

I think Layla was tested for covid when they brought her to the MD a couple of weeks ago. It sounded like the doctor didn't think much was up with Layla and sent them home. I'm guessing she was the first to show symptoms, test came back positive, Carlin and Evan were tested, started showing symptoms.

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28 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

In the pic of Carlin and Evan there's a blue seal or something on the nightstand. Is that tubing, like for an oxygen mask wrapped around it?

Never mind, looked it up. I'm guessing Layla has been sick as well.

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Layla has had breathing issues since birth. This People article from May 17 2020 details Layla's problems. 

Layla Rae- May Article

They probably had this seal. 

 

 

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6 minutes ago, Temperance said:

Layla has had breathing issues since birth. This People article from May 17 2020 details Layla's problems. 

Layla Rae- May Article

They probably had this seal. 

 

 

Which is why that seal should have accompanied Layla to someone else's house while they were contagious. I mean, breathing issues are the main symptom of covid. Layla is a high risk little girl. 😕

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56 minutes ago, Temperance said:

Layla has had breathing issues since birth. This People article from May 17 2020 details Layla's problems. 

Layla Rae- May Article

They probably had this seal. 

 

 

Is Carlin incapable of smiling with her teeth together? In every single photo, she's got that moronic open-mouthed vacant look, and I can practically hear the wind whistling through her empty head. You're trying too hard, Carlin. Not even your sister Erin is that vapid. 

I feel sorry for their child. 

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6 hours ago, Temperance said:

Layla has had breathing issues since birth. This People article from May 17 2020 details Layla's problems. 

Layla Rae- May Article

They probably had this seal. 

 

 

I suppose Carlin or Evan could be using it with adult sized fittings, but I would think it would be with Layla if she's not home.

Either way, nebulizer fittings shouldn't be sitting out collecting dust if not currently needed so I'm thinking someone has recently needed to use it.

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8 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

In the pic of Carlin and Evan there's a blue seal or something on the nightstand. Is that tubing, like for an oxygen mask wrapped around it?

Never mind, looked it up. I'm guessing Layla has been sick as well.

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In other posts and interviews, Carlin has said that Layla has apneic episodes where she stops breathing and turns blue.  She has mentioned giving the baby oxygen when that happens.  So, the oxygen has probably been around a while.

Layla was born prematurely and a lot of those kids have apneic spells which gradually resolve as they grow.

1 hour ago, GeeGolly said:

I suppose Carlin or Evan could be using it with adult sized fittings, but I would think it would be with Layla if she's not home.

Either way, nebulizer fittings shouldn't be sitting out collecting dust if not currently needed so I'm thinking someone has recently needed to use it.

Except, of course, Carlin and her husband are idiots.  The don't take proper care of themselves, they don't take proper care of their baby; why would they take proper care of medical equipment?

If the baby is sick, I doubt we'll ever hear about it.  They're pretty dumb, but not that dumb.

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9 hours ago, Sew Sumi said:

"Socialistic mindset?" Does he even know what a socialist is?

Well, they all think they know. That language is everywhere in their world right now. Witness the upcoming event in Texas that Jim Bob and Michelle are advertising. That's a word that's definitely become fundie-speak. But pretty much everything most of them say is just parroting, so nobody ever asks for a definition of anything. Just like most everything else they say, they're magic words. These being bad magic. Actual understanding be damned.

This is the return of the 50s Red Scare and McCarthyism -- Socialism is on our shores!!! -- And that fueled the growth of churches in America, big time, both mainline denominations and, especially, ever more volatile evangelicals and fundamentalists......for a while anyway. It definitely worked to drive American religious fervor and then conservatism, so they're trying to renew it, I guess.

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Well you all know how I feel about these idiot parents, Carlin and Evan, from my previous posts. 

Carlin seems to be disgusted or upset at having to wear a mask when they go out. (This was before they tested positive.)  Then when she does wear the mask, it's hanging down with her nostrils exposed and not covering her nose properly. 

One of their recent videos shows a surprise visit from Evan's sisters and her three daughters.  Looks like they were in town, stayed somewhere else but spent time with Carlin, Evan and Layla.

No mention made of Covid but not one of the visitors was wearing a mask to protect Layla.  So here's another 4 people visiting from a different area, sitting right next to each other playing games & singing a lullaby to Layla (which was cute) without a care in the world.

I wonder if Evan's parents watched Layla during their Covid outbreak?  They seem to have watched her at other times.

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14 hours ago, Zella said:

If you haven't listened to Nathan and Nurie sing, don't. Just don't. LOL

I did skip around the early parts of the video trying to find where Nathan stopped talking in his intro to the song, and I was pleasantly surprised that he said when they were thinking of a song, Nurie suggested this one, and they went with her pick. Low bar, I know, but I know some fundies who would never dare let their wife have an opinion on that or listen to it if she had one. 

Of course we’ll never know for sure, but I can’t imagine Nathan being anything other than kind and respectful to Nurie, primarily because he’s most likely afraid of the wrath of Jill, but also because he appears to be a really nice guy.  At least I hope that’s the case.

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I'm sure next week's You Tube installment will feature the full Covid drama, including Carlin's tearful handing off of Layla to whoever was watching her.  I recently read that one of the symptoms of babies with Covid is hives.  Maybe Layla had it?  One would think that the pediatrician would have tested her.  I get the impression that Carlin does not (cannot?) fully process whatever the pediatrician tells her about Layla during their visits.

 

 

 

 

 

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18 minutes ago, farmgal4 said:

Of course we’ll never know for sure, but I can’t imagine Nathan being anything other than kind and respectful to Nurie, primarily because he’s most likely afraid of the wrath of Jill, but also because he appears to be a really nice guy.  At least I hope that’s the case.

I think Nathan is probably a nice enough person on his own, but I really don't think he would face any wrath from Jill if he wasn't good to her daughter. I mean, she treats her own kids like utter shit and only seems to be invested in pimping them out. I don't think she feels any maternal instinct to protect them because she never has. So, it wouldn't surprise me if one of her daughters was in an abusive relationship if her response would be some variation of "tough shit--you are his wife now. . . . Any luck with getting us on Counting On with your sister in law ANNA DUGGAR?" 

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9 minutes ago, 3 is enough said:

I'm sure next week's You Tube installment will feature the full Covid drama, including Carlin's tearful handing off of Layla to whoever was watching her.  I recently read that one of the symptoms of babies with Covid is hives.  Maybe Layla had it?  One would think that the pediatrician would have tested her.  I get the impression that Carlin does not (cannot?) fully process whatever the pediatrician tells her about Layla during their visits.

 

 

 

 

 

 I get the impression that Carlin is too busy worrying about how soon she can get a post up on Instagram to get those 'likes' and comments from her fans to pay much attention to the pediatrician.  After all, just to GO to the pediatrician, besides finding something that might be wrong with the baby and making the appointment; she's got to get photos of them wearing their coordinated mother-daughter outfits, make sure the baby has a huge bow on her head, make sure her own makeup is on point (which I think is a major reason she doesn't like masks) and then, figure out what photos she needs once she gets home to make the story complete.  Priorities, people!

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I think Nathan is probably a nice enough person on his own, but I really don't think he would face any wrath from Jill if he wasn't good to her daughter. I mean, she treats her own kids like utter shit and only seems to be invested in pimping them out. I don't think she feels any maternal instinct to protect them because she never has. So, it wouldn't surprise me if one of her daughters was in an abusive relationship if her response would be some variation of "tough shit--you are his wife now." 

The only wrath he would get from Jill was if he was to tell her that he doesn't want her posting about them on social media.  That they want their privacy and will handle their own social media, thanks.  That would lead to a Jilly meltdown.

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Exactly, @doodlebug! She doesn't care about anyone but herself, so imo a defiant son in law who treats her daughter like a queen but cuts Jill off would be worse to her than an abusive one who treats her daughter like shit but kisses Jill's ass. 

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9 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

I suppose Carlin or Evan could be using it with adult sized fittings, but I would think it would be with Layla if she's not home.

Either way, nebulizer fittings shouldn't be sitting out collecting dust if not currently needed so I'm thinking someone has recently needed to use it.

Well that's assuming fundies would put something away and store it properly.

My point was we don't know that Layla has COVID and the seal doesn't prove anything.   She could have it or she could not.

It's possible that Evan and Carlin sent her to be with family like Michael. She could have multiple seals and she left one at home. It could be her only seal and they forgot it and the family caring for her bought a new one. 

It's possible she has/had COVID and a mild case. 

15 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

This is pure speculation ...

I think Layla was tested for covid when they brought her to the MD a couple of weeks ago. It sounded like the doctor didn't think much was up with Layla and sent them home. I'm guessing she was the first to show symptoms, test came back positive, Carlin and Evan were tested, started showing symptoms.

I hope Layla had a mild case if she had it, but it seems unlikely to me that if Layla had COVID, her doctor would think "not much is up".  A baby with breathing and heart problems testing positive for COVID would be very worrisome to most doctors. Even a "mild case" would be very serious and cause for concern with health issues that would complicate the virus.

I'm chosing to believe Layla is fine. 

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14 minutes ago, Temperance said:

Well that's assuming fundies would put something away and store it properly.

My point was we don't know that Layla has COVID and the seal doesn't prove anything.   She could have it or she could not.

It's possible that Evan and Carlin sent her to be with family like Michael. She could have multiple seals and she left one at home. It could be her only seal and they forgot it and the family caring for her bought a new one. 

It's possible she has/had COVID and a mild case. 

I hope Layla had a mild case if she had it, but it seems unlikely to me that if Layla had COVID, her doctor would think "not much is up".  A baby with breathing and heart problems testing positive for COVID would be very worrisome to most doctors. Even a "mild case" would be very serious and cause for concern with health issues that would complicate the virus.

I'm chosing to believe Layla is fine. 

Covid symptoms are so different with everyone and they're still learning more with kids. As a mom I know for certain that most pediatricians are purposely not alarmists and send kids home when something seems unlikely, but often run tests to be sure. Most kids diagnosed with covid are sent home anyway, so if the MD had even a minor suspicion, he likely would have sent them home. Because of the tone of Carlin's post, odds are Layla is fine, even if she had covid. But as I said in the beginning my original post, its pure speculation on my part, after reading the post and seeing the picture.

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Anybody know where Michaela is going to nursing school?

I think Carlin will put her self-interest before her religious mission to pop out babies.  I'm sure parenthood isn't what she expected and I doubt she will be anxious to repeat the experience.  Some condoms might just find their way into the Stewart household.  That way Carlin can focus on her Instagram experience and her make-up and her beautiful life--and it won't be long until her prop will be ready to perform for the cameras.

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5 minutes ago, riverblue22 said:

Anybody know where Michaela is going to nursing school?

I think Carlin will put her self-interest before her religious mission to pop out babies.  I'm sure parenthood isn't what she expected and I doubt she will be anxious to repeat the experience.  Some condoms might just find their way into the Stewart household.  That way Carlin can focus on her Instagram experience and her make-up and her beautiful life--and it won't be long until her prop will be ready to perform for the cameras.

I don't know which school, but its in TN.

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the whole conversation on the Carlin and Evan post is interesting to me.

When my grand kids abruptly started home school in Feb i sent them a set on writing. It involved a picture each day and a page to fill out for various grade levels. like "I observe" and then "I infer......because" and then write a few sentences.

with the little info we get with Duggar or Bates' totally staged pics, we are always doing the basic "I observe" and "I infer .........because" - we all go with what we see in the pic and prior info. I just find that interesting we use the same strategy for the most part.

 

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1 hour ago, GeeGolly said:

Covid symptoms are so different with everyone and they're still learning more with kids. As a mom I know for certain that most pediatricians are purposely not alarmists and send kids home when something seems unlikely, but often run tests to be sure. Most kids diagnosed with covid are sent home anyway, so if the MD had even a minor suspicion, he likely would have sent them home. Because of the tone of Carlin's post, odds are Layla is fine, even if she had covid. But as I said in the beginning my original post, its pure speculation on my part, after reading the post and seeing the picture.

Layla is not most kids. She is 6 months old and she has a hole in heart and has had respiratory problems that sent to a hospital earlier this year (before her parents had Covid).   I don't think a peditrician would be cavalier in the face of at-risk baby having Covid. 

I hope everyone in the household has full recovery and that they pull through. 

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45 minutes ago, Absolom said:

It's been a year now so how much longer is her program?  3 to 6 more months?

Who, Michael? She should be done, but I wonder if she was able to do her clinicals? If she's not done, this would likely be why.

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51 minutes ago, Temperance said:

Layla is not most kids. She is 6 months old and she has a hole in heart and has had respiratory problems that sent to a hospital earlier this year (before her parents had Covid).   I don't think a peditrician would be cavalier in the face of at-risk baby having Covid. 

I hope everyone in the household has full recovery and that they pull through. 

You're absolutely right. I don't think my post was clear.

I'm guessing the doc asked some covid related questions including where the family has been, did they wear masks, etc. Because Layla, as related in the video of the visit, had perked up and seemed to be only mildly ill, they sent them home. My speculation arouse from seeing the pedi nebulizer. I'm guessing Carlin's answers to the pediatrician's questions combined with Layla's preexisting health issues, compelled him to do a covid test, just in case.

I also hope the family is fine, and from the looks of it, they are.

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I think Carlin is still in the “play house” stage of marriage and having a baby. Real life hasn’t hit her because she’s living the fundy fairytale. 
 

 It may sound mean but she sure does seem to love the attention Layla’s illnesses have brought her so I doubt Layla got sick. She’s the type to milk that for all it’s worth. 

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1 hour ago, Oldernowiser said:

I’d love to comment, but I have a pain in my Breastplate of Righteousness and my Belt of Truth is in the shop.

IS Timbits allowed to use the "Breast"word? Sounds awful.

And Oldernowiser are you sluttish under that breastplate? You are among friends, you can admit it. You know you want to.

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51 minutes ago, Sew Sumi said:

Who, Michael? She should be done, but I wonder if she was able to do her clinicals? If she's not done, this would likely be why.

Third and fourth year medical students are still doing their clinical rotations.  My guess is nursing students are too.  They don't necessarily have to have contact with Covid patients.  I just don't know where Michaela goes to school and if her school is affiliated with any teaching hospitals.

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On 8/13/2020 at 3:26 PM, Ijustwantsomechips said:

Versace Bright Crystal is my signature scent. When I wear it, people always compliment me on it.  

Anything cucumber melon, however, makes me smell like a wilted garden salad 🤢 

OT: I really wish Jill would leave Nurthan alone.  The poor child is probably already going to be homesick once the novelty wears off.  She doesn’t need dear Shill Rodrigues calling and texting all day getting her all riled up.

Sit next to me. My signature scent is Versace Crystal Noir. And freesia and lavender make me very nauseous. 

How are the Rodz able to afford contractors and new appliances?! I’m looking at pulling out equity just to get a desperately needed roof repair. Maybe I should go troll Walmarts and laundromats for soul winnin’ and heathen catchin’.

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23 hours ago, Churchhoney said:

Since MacArthur has claimed that no one in his church (of 6 to 8 thousand people) has it, maybe there if you test positive you just get immediately excommunicated. I mean, Jesus wouldn't let you catch it if you were truly worthy to be a member of the church, would he? 

They’re not allowed to get tested. And of course, as we have been told, no testing means no cases! 

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