amensisterfriend January 8, 2015 Share January 8, 2015 A few more fun questions: 1) Which minor characters would you most like to have seen more of? 2) Which minor characters would you most like to have seen LESS of?! 3) What was your favorite female friendship on the show? 4) Which characters would you like to have seen develop more of a friendship than what we saw? Link to comment
ghoulina January 9, 2015 Share January 9, 2015 (edited) 1. TJ. It's probably an UO, but he really cracked me up. Maybe Mrs. Kim as well. Oh, and Logan's friend, Robert, whom Rory goes to the Pulp Fiction party with. 2. Lucy and Olivia. I don't know why, but that entire storyline irked and bored me. Does Dean count as minor? At least in the later years? Because I hated that as well. Andrew. Mitchum. 3. Rory and Paris, hands down. Paris is one of my favorite characters, she is hysterical. And I like how they started out as enemies, then grew to be friends. I love how they're there for each other, but challenge each other and don't take each other's shit. 4. Luke and Zach. I kind of like the thing they had going at the end there, when Zach started working at the diner. I know there was an age difference, but Luke needed more friends and Zach was a nice, zany compliment to his whole straight man thing. Edited January 9, 2015 by ghoulina 2 Link to comment
junienmomo January 9, 2015 Share January 9, 2015 1) Gypsy and Michel 2) Die, characters, die: Zach, TJ, Liz, Sookie and Jackson as parents 3) There weren't any good deep female friendships besides Rory/Paris. A debate on the merits of Luke/Jess versus Rory/Paris would be fun. 4) Honor and Rory, second place Lane and Patty (both musical - how did they miss that connection?) 2 Link to comment
amensisterfriend January 9, 2015 Share January 9, 2015 (edited) 1) Which minor characters would you most like to have seen more of? The reverend and rabbi!!! Seriously, I adore those guys. I also would have liked to see Tanna stick around for a couple more seasons, even if she just popped up very occasionally---I found her amusing and endearing, and befriending socially awkward "geeks" made Rory more endearing to me. Digger, as a distant Gilmore cousin who appeared a few times per season. 2) Which minor characters would you most like to have seen LESS of?! Um...almost all of them?! ;) Sulky, dull, bitter, jealous, energy-depleting Dean, of course---I'd have been happy if he was permanently out of the picture after their first breakup. Same goes for Max! TJ and Liz, both of whom I've already ranted about sufficiently in other threads :) Colin. I know we didn't see all that much of this jerk, but the little bit we got was MORE than enough for me, and his mere presence made Logan less likable and sympathetic to me. Anna and April---due to both the actual characters and the show-marring storyline. Kirk---I would have found him more amusing in smaller---like, really, really small---doses. 3) What was your favorite female friendship on the show? The compelling, touching, eminently entertaining Paris/Rory frenemyship, for all the reasons you guys have stated! I actually really like the Sookie-Lorelai friendship in the first 2-3 seasons of the show, after which it (and Sookie as an individual character) took a turn for the worse for me. 4) Which characters would you like to have seen develop more of a friendship than what we saw? Luke/Gypsy! So compatible in so many ways. Paris/Emily/Mama Kim---the snarkfests would have been pure gold. Logan/sweetly geeky, insecure guys ---Because I think it would have offered both a few amusing scenes and character growth Emily/some woman of a decidedly 'inferior' socioeconomic class :) A Miss Patty/Emily friendship would have been a whole lot of fun. Edited January 9, 2015 by amensisterfriend 3 Link to comment
ghoulina January 9, 2015 Share January 9, 2015 The reverend and rabbi!!! Seriously, I adore those guys.I also would have liked to see Tanna stick around for a couple more seasons, even if she just popped up very occasionally---I found her amusing and endearing, and befriending socially awkward "geeks" made Rory more endearing to me. Paris/Emily/Mama Kim---the snarkfests would have been pure gold. These are both great answers that I did not think of, but could totally get on board with. Emily and Paris would be a match made in heaven! 3 Link to comment
Eeksquire January 10, 2015 Share January 10, 2015 I am chiming in on the reverend/rabbi love - they were never better than when they were mocking Taylor. :) 2 Link to comment
RoyRogersMcFreely January 10, 2015 Share January 10, 2015 1) Rory's other roommates from freshman year. Especially the one that hated Paris. I wish she could have formed friendships with them. 2) Kirk, just forever and always. 3) Rory and Paris were the best relationship of any sort on this show to me that didn't involve two people with the last name Gilmore. 4) The Luke/ Rory bond should have been stronger. I could believe he saw her as sort of a daughter, but I never got the feeling she saw him as the father figure to her that people tend to say he was, but more as another very caring friend from her town full of very caring friends and neighbors. 2 Link to comment
amensisterfriend January 10, 2015 Share January 10, 2015 (edited) The Luke/ Rory bond should have been stronger. I could believe he saw her as sort of a daughter, but I never got the feeling she saw him as the father figure to her that people tend to say he was, but more as another very caring friend from her town full of very caring friends and neighbors. I wish so much that this relationship had better developed as well. The show never sold me on the 'he was like a father to her!' thing, though thankfully fanfic has helped remedy this and made their relationship a lot more touching and compelling to me :) They only had about 3-4 scenes alone together throughout the entire seven season series, all of which took place due to concern over Lorelai and/or Jess. During the times when Luke and Lorelai weren't talking for whatever reason, even just a fight, Luke and Rory seemed to have little to no contact. I also agree that Luke seemed to value Rory far more than she valued him. She cared for him but, as you mentioned, more as just one of a handful or two of SH adults who played a role in her and her mother's lives. Rory actually seemed a lot more independently close to Sookie than to Luke IMO. Edited January 10, 2015 by amensisterfriend 2 Link to comment
junienmomo January 10, 2015 Share January 10, 2015 I wish so much that this relationship had better developed as well. The show never sold me on the 'he was like a father to her!' thing, though thankfully fanfic has helped remedy this and made their relationship a lot more touching and compelling to me :) They only had about 3-4 scenes alone together throughout the entire seven season series, all of which took place due to concern over Lorelai and/or Jess. Having totally bought into the times they talked about how much of a father figure he was, I never thought about this! On the other hand, these moments seem to be just about them: Wrestling with Dean on the street baking a birthday coffee cake giving her his mother's necklace without a big fanfare Ditto on loving the fanfic. If he'd been the father figure as described there, she wouldn't have been so screwed up later in life, I suspect. 2 Link to comment
amensisterfriend January 12, 2015 Share January 12, 2015 Here's another fun one for you guys: Which characters did you most change your mind about, i.e. initially couldn't stand and grew to love (or at least grew to mildly like!) or initially liked but eventually grew to dislike?! Link to comment
Guest January 12, 2015 Share January 12, 2015 1. TJ. It's probably an UO, but he really cracked me up. Maybe Mrs. Kim as well. Oh, and Logan's friend, Robert, whom Rory goes to the Pulp Fiction party with. 2 Get out. Just go. Link to comment
ghoulina January 12, 2015 Share January 12, 2015 Which characters did you most change your mind about, i.e. initially couldn't stand and grew to love (or at least grew to mildly like!) or initially liked but eventually grew to dislike?! Paris. Hated her at first, but by the end she was one of my favorite characters. On the flipside - I liked Dean the first time around. But Rory + Dean 2.0 made me hate him with the fires of a thousand suns. When Lindsey was clapping up and down and hugging him, after she just made him a pot roast, and he had been busy shagging his ex-girlfriend - dead to me. Get out. Just go. Sorry? 1 Link to comment
junienmomo January 12, 2015 Share January 12, 2015 Paris and Jess. Lovin' em both now. OMG, wouldn't it have been a blowout for Jess to date Paris just to get Rory jealous? 2 Link to comment
amensisterfriend January 12, 2015 Share January 12, 2015 (edited) I always saw Jess/Paris as a couple! They're my 'totally weren't but should have been' 'ship of the show ;) When Lindsey was clapping up and down and hugging him, after she just made him a pot roast, and he had been busy shagging his ex-girlfriend - dead to me. That was painful! I think Logan is the character I'e changed my mind about most. Sometimes I find him smirky and smug and hate his friends and don't like who Rory is when she's around him. Other times---more recently---I'm surprised by just how much he's grown on me and find him a compelling character who genuinely loves Rory and who, unlike nearly every other GG character, really evolves and grows over the course the series. I still always hate his friends, though :) I've also changed my mind a bit about Max. I was utterly indifferent to him when I first saw the show, but for reasons I can't even defend or explain, I just find him so smarmy and pompous and irritating every time I rewatch. I also think I enjoy Christopher a bit less than I used to...you Java Junkies are rubbing off on me ;) Edited January 12, 2015 by amensisterfriend 1 Link to comment
Taryn74 January 12, 2015 Share January 12, 2015 Paris. She was just so ridiculously mean at first. She still had that mean streak by the end of the series but at least you could figure out how to get around it, if that makes sense. Logan. Once I got past assuming he was an a-hole by association (Colin) I kinda grew to like him quite a bit. The more I watch, the more I'm annoyed by Lorelai, does that count? LOL. 1 Link to comment
amensisterfriend January 12, 2015 Share January 12, 2015 Logan. Once I got past assuming he was an a-hole by association (Colin) I kinda grew to like him quite a bit. Heh---as you can see, we're totally on the same wavelength there. It also dawned on me eventually that what I thought of as a cocky, insincere smirk is actually just kind of the way Matt C. happens to smile :) The more I watch, the more I'm annoyed by Lorelai, does that count? LOL. Oh, I so, so, SO get this. I adore Lorelai, think she's a wonderfully vivid character and even admire certain things about her, but if I'm not in a certain mood, she can REALLY grate. Sometimes I feel compelled to fast forward through her rambling "bits." 2 Link to comment
amensisterfriend January 12, 2015 Share January 12, 2015 ETA: Oh, and I actually love Rory even more, if that counts as changing my mind. Even the Rory of S5-S6 who I often kind of can't stand? I still kind of love her. It defies rational explanation :) 1 Link to comment
amensisterfriend January 13, 2015 Share January 13, 2015 Here's an amusingly shallow best/worst: Which of Lorelai's and Rory's hairstyles did you like most/least?! Do you prefer Lorelai's hair straight or curly? Did you like Rory's hair shorter and/or wavier? And what are your thoughts on her ever-so-controversial bangs?! 1 Link to comment
ghoulina January 13, 2015 Share January 13, 2015 I like Lorelai's hair curly. Soft curls or soft waves. But not that wavy look she had going on when she was dating Jason. It was like crunchy wavy? With a weird flip in the front, and it looked like she'd slept on it in the back. I don't know what was going on with her at that time, but it was dreadful. As for Rory, I REALLY liked her bangs. I liked her hair best with the long, soft waves and the bangs. Did NOT like that short bob she was sporting for awhile. 1 Link to comment
junienmomo January 13, 2015 Share January 13, 2015 I'm a big fan of the smoother, but not stiffly ironed flat styles for Lorelai. Hate the extensions all the time. Pretty much S1 Lorelai styles. Loved Rory's short style. 1 Link to comment
amensisterfriend January 13, 2015 Share January 13, 2015 I actually love Lorelai's hair through a lot of S6 and S7: As a general rule, I tend not to love Lorelai's hair when it's either wildly curly OR too flat-ironed, stick straight...I like the soft looks in between :) I also think she looks a lot better with her hair down than when it's clipped back or in a ponytail. As for Rory, I agree with Ghoulina about not liking the really short bob of S4. I'm not a big fan of the bangs, but they've grown on me a bit. I adore her long hair whether it's straight or a little wavy, though I don't like the curled look she had in a few S3 episodes. My very favorite Rory hair might have been in S5, though---when it was shoulder length and with a soft wave. Thanks for chiming in on this very vital issue ;) 3 Link to comment
Taryn74 January 13, 2015 Share January 13, 2015 Funny how we have such different tastes when it comes to the hair thing! For me, the girls were at their most gorgeous with these looks..... Lorelai with the soft curls and wide headbands And I loved Rory's short bob. Really made her eyes stand out. I kinda like the loose bangs too though. 1 Link to comment
amensisterfriend January 13, 2015 Share January 13, 2015 I'm a fan of Lorelai's headbands, too, Taryn! 2 Link to comment
cheezwhiz346 January 13, 2015 Share January 13, 2015 I like Lorelai's hair best when it's darker and curlier; particularly in seasons 1 and 5. For Rory, I love the bob too. I do think the bangs look really good, but (and I'm sure this is also just because of general characterization issues) she felt less like 'Rory' to me with them. 2 Link to comment
Eeksquire January 14, 2015 Share January 14, 2015 I wasn't in love with the bob, but it was so true to the character: at some point in college, everyone gets a radical haircut! (My own sister came home with what can only be described as a "Peter Pan" 'do and wow. Not a great look.) 1 Link to comment
amensisterfriend January 14, 2015 Share January 14, 2015 I do think the bangs look really good, but (and I'm sure this is also just because of general characterization issues) she felt less like 'Rory' to me with them. Ha---I totally get that. I was always weirdly relieved when she'd wear the bangs clipped back or to the side---like, 'oh, look, we can see her forehead again...now I recognize 'my' Rory!' Link to comment
larapu2000 January 15, 2015 Share January 15, 2015 I agree that Lorelai didn't look as good with her hair up. It's something about her face, it made it look more severe? I think the soft waves made her look 10 years younger. I love Rory's bangs. I also love Emily's wash-and-set style. LOL 2 Link to comment
amensisterfriend January 19, 2015 Share January 19, 2015 Continuing the delightfully shallow bests and worsts: Rory and Lorelai's best and worst outfits throughout the series?! Link to comment
Taryn74 January 19, 2015 Share January 19, 2015 Rory usually didn't look too bad (except for that muumuu in the Pilot, LOL) but for some reason I just really hate this skirt over the swimsuit. It looks like she slung a cardboard box across her hips. 1 Link to comment
amensisterfriend January 19, 2015 Share January 19, 2015 LOL---oh god....that's horrific! Yet another reason to avoid rewatching S6 ;) I'll post a few of my favorites to cheer us up :) Link to comment
Taryn74 January 19, 2015 Share January 19, 2015 Lorelai's worst outfits? I wouldn't even know where to begin. She has some great stuff, but she also has some downright fugly outfits. Ignoring her rodeo attire from TLFDAC, because it was supposed to be awful, I also hate this outfit because the skirt is SO short. It looks tacky. 1 Link to comment
amensisterfriend January 19, 2015 Share January 19, 2015 I can't explain why, but I always loved Rory's look in Ballrooms and Biscotti---something about her hair and the way the light blue sweater brings out her eyes. And her comical despair at figuring out they were hijacking her to watch ballroom dancing all night long :) (For some reason I tend to think Rory looks most gorgeous in light blue while Lorelai looks most gorgeous in pink or red!) Link to comment
amensisterfriend January 19, 2015 Share January 19, 2015 And a worst: As cute as the idea may have been in theory, I hate her hair and her outfit here! Link to comment
takalotti January 19, 2015 Share January 19, 2015 But ... but ... That outfit matched her face! 1 Link to comment
Eeksquire January 19, 2015 Share January 19, 2015 Both Lorelai and Rory were much cuter in their Dance Marathon retro attire than the pseudo-military thing Rory wore to the DAR thing. 2 Link to comment
amensisterfriend January 19, 2015 Share January 19, 2015 That's why it's my avatar! I adore the way pretty much everyone looks in this episode :) 2 Link to comment
ghoulina January 19, 2015 Share January 19, 2015 ^^^ A favorite of Lorelai's. HATED this monstrosity: A favorite of Rory's (I must love them in green): And not a fan of this: Link to comment
Taryn74 January 19, 2015 Share January 19, 2015 OMG, yes, they looked amazing in TSGDT! I love Rory's hair in B&B too, ASF. I like a softer look on her. This shirt makes my retinas want to detach in self-defense. 3 Link to comment
amensisterfriend January 19, 2015 Share January 19, 2015 LOL! OMG, that shirt is the worst! Lorelai's S1 clothes tended to be particularly cringe-inducing :) And, as we've already talked about, I find that Lorelai's least flattering hairstyle. And you know I have to give a shoutout to one of the prettiest Paris looks as well: 1 Link to comment
amensisterfriend January 19, 2015 Share January 19, 2015 Ha!!! Where is that from?! I managed to repress it :) How about your favorite and least favorite looks for some of the show's males? Link to comment
takalotti January 19, 2015 Share January 19, 2015 (edited) I hope I'm doing this right... Just to be clear, this is a favorite look! Edited January 19, 2015 by takalotti 1 Link to comment
readster January 19, 2015 Share January 19, 2015 I have no idea why we got Sean Gunn without clothes so many times during the series. He has a very odd pear shape body, man boobs and I really have no idea what is going on with his diaphragm. 3 Link to comment
Taryn74 January 19, 2015 Share January 19, 2015 Favorite for Jess. Not only because he looks good, but because it's hysterical. 8 Link to comment
larapu2000 January 20, 2015 Share January 20, 2015 (edited) I always like Luke in his flannels and jeans and ballcap. I thought he looked weird in suits. And believe me, I LOVE a man in a suit. I think he's like Tim McGraw-KEEP THE HAT ON!! I also like the way they dressed Rory in Seasons 6 and 7. Dresses, long coats, all were very flattering on Bledel's slim figure. Edited January 20, 2015 by larapu2000 4 Link to comment
amensisterfriend January 20, 2015 Share January 20, 2015 ITA! Maybe it's partly because the baseball cap and flannel felt more 'in character' for Luke, but I agree that he looked better that way. Like many of us with chronic hair issues, he looks better with a hat on :) Link to comment
BC Mama January 20, 2015 Share January 20, 2015 One look on lorelai and Rory is did not like at all was the supposedly fabulous bride maid outfits lorelai made for sookie's wedding! Not flattering on either gorgeous lady. 2 Link to comment
junienmomo January 20, 2015 Share January 20, 2015 (edited) Looks like I'm gonna have to drag my sorry butt over to UO to express my love for Lorelai's pulled back hair. :) Here's one of my favorite Lorelai pictures. Her makeup here is fabulous. A little below are my favorite Luke outfits. Can you identify a theme? LOL Was there ever any press about the bandaid in WITS? My guess is a tattoo coverup, or just a normal bandaid. The WITS date Lorelai was the single most inappropriate outfit after Chilton first day. Hate hate hate that hair, and the clothing looks like she's going to a flea market instead of on a date she's anticipated for two months. Edited January 20, 2015 by junienmomo Link to comment
Taryn74 January 20, 2015 Share January 20, 2015 One look on lorelai and Rory is did not like at all was the supposedly fabulous bride maid outfits lorelai made for sookie's wedding! Not flattering on either gorgeous lady. Oh, so much yes. The color is pretty, but this neckline just looks strange and does not sit well on Rory at all. While Lorelai's dress just wrinkles strangely and the straps always look like they're on the verge of slipping down. Just not attractive. Link to comment
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