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From what I heard there haven't been any issues in the last couple of movies he has done.

 

I'm not sure, he was still an asshole on The Fighter, I love the dudes movies I think he's actually the best American director working, although I do like Wes Anderson too, he's got a very specific sensibility whereas I think DOR is able to switch up genre's and be really great in whatever mode. And whatever Fuckabees is the best!

 

I will say I've always been confounded by actors working with O.Russell more than once when they KNOW, they KNOW and I try to keep in mind that there is a LOT of this kind of stuff happening on sets (people acting like entitled Napoleanic dicks see Bale on Terminator 4) and even in that Lily fight there's a lot of evidence she's not exactly being cooperative, he's calm with her and she keeps upping the tone until he loses his shit. Still I don't get why you keep working with the guy if he's that out of control.

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I'm not sure, he was still an asshole on The Fighter, I love the dudes movies I think he's actually the best American director working, although I do like Wes Anderson too, he's got a very specific sensibility whereas I think DOR is able to switch up genre's and be really great in whatever mode. And whatever Fuckabees is the best!

 

I will say I've always been confounded by actors working with O.Russell more than once when they KNOW, they KNOW and I try to keep in mind that there is a LOT of this kind of stuff happening on sets (people acting like entitled Napoleanic dicks see Bale on Terminator 4) and even in that Lily fight there's a lot of evidence she's not exactly being cooperative, he's calm with her and she keeps upping the tone until he loses his shit. Still I don't get why you keep working with the guy if he's that out of control.

The Fighter was three movies ago.  I was referring to the couple afterward; SLP and American Hustle.

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Stanley Kubrick sent his actors through the wringer while filming The Shining. Shelley Duvall got sick because of stress that her hair fell out. Jack Nicholson threw away his scripts because Kubrick would change them at the last minute. Scatman Crothers broke down and begged Kubrick to tell him what he wanted after filming a scene over and over.

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If we're talking of directors: Lars von Trier. From a BFI article:

 

Von Trier is renowned for his unpredictable antics on set. Before shooting began on Dogville, he filled Paul Bettany’s hotel room with porn magazines before bringing his co-star Nicole Kidman in to meet the actor for the first time. More damningly, John C. Reilly gave up his role in Manderlay (2005) after von Trier allegedly taunted the animal-loving actor with details of his genuine plans to kill a donkey on set.

 

I've only seen Dogville and it was enough. Some actors work with him again and again, most notably Stellan Skarsgard, but most don't go back for seconds.

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Stanley Kubrick sent his actors through the wringer while filming The Shining. Shelley Duvall got sick because of stress that her hair fell out. Jack Nicholson threw away his scripts because Kubrick would change them at the last minute. Scatman Crothers broke down and begged Kubrick to tell him what he wanted after filming a scene over and over.

 

I don't know why, but this made me think of Martin Sheen having a heart attack filming Apocalypse Now.  Then I went over to the IMDb page and that entire shoot/film was a shit show all-round.  Although Marlon Brando appears to have taken the cake as the "difficult actor".  I feel like there's some proverb about genius in adversity... 

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I think " In the Heart of Darkness" is the documentary on the filming of Apocalypse Now. Highly recommended. It's been a long time since I've seen it but I do remember Coppola 's rant " Marty's not dead until I say he's dead!"

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Lars Von Trier, I'll never forget the side eye Kirsten Dunst gave him.

When he started talking out the ass about Hitler, during a press event for Melancolia.

In hindsight, I'd say he pretty much killed her chance for an Oscar nom.

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It is said that when Shirley MacLaine won the Oscar for Terms of Endearment (which Debra Winger was also up for), she walked over to Debra on the way to accept it and said this:

 

Shirley: "Half of this award belongs to you!"

 

Debra: "I'll take half."

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I have heard before that even though they were friends and presumably made up later, Henry Fonda once beat the crap out of James Stewart over some political rift.

 

Henry Fonda was a very liberal Democrat, while James Stewart was a very conservative Republican. That fight was apparently the one and only time they ever discussed politics, and after that they agreed never to do so again. They were best friends for the rest of their lives after that (they also lived together briefly while they were still struggling actors). 

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I don't know why, but this made me think of Martin Sheen having a heart attack filming Apocalypse Now.  Then I went over to the IMDb page and that entire shoot/film was a shit show all-round.  Although Marlon Brando appears to have taken the cake as the "difficult actor".  I feel like there's some proverb about genius in adversity... 

You're not kidding!  ... from http://www.cracked.com/article_20487_the-5-most-hilarious-actor-meltdowns-behind-famous-movies.html (BTW, this whole article is great)

"At one point, Brando told the director that he would not perform unless a midget whom he had befriended during production appeared next to him in all his scenes, so then that happened -- you know the miniature version of Dr. Moreau who accompanies him everywhere? That's not in the book or the script. Brando forced them to add all those scenes."

"The dwarf (who had a successful television career in South America) then inspired "Mini-Me" from Austin Powers, although that isn't an accurate comparison; a mini-me version of Brando would be the size of Edward Norton. Speaking of which, Brando co-starred with Norton and Robert DeNiro in the less crappy film The Score. Did you think Brando looked more in shape in that movie than in Dr. Moreau? Well, that's just because he refused to wear pants, forcing the director to shoot him only from the waist up."

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I will say I've always been confounded by actors working with O.Russell more than once when they KNOW, they KNOW and I try to keep in mind that there is a LOT of this kind of stuff happening on sets (people acting like entitled Napoleanic dicks see Bale on Terminator 4) and even in that Lily fight there's a lot of evidence she's not exactly being cooperative, he's calm with her and she keeps upping the tone until he loses his shit. Still I don't get why you keep working with the guy if he's that out of control.

 

Lily Tomlin is having quite the rant here as well: 

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Here's a list of co-star feuds, some of which expand on ones mentioned here already:

 

http://flavorwire.com/298930/the-most-notorious-co-star-feuds-in-movie-history

 

My favorite one is Charlie Sheen vs. Sean Young:

 

 

Neither Sheen nor Young have wound up looking like the picture of professionalism or mental health in the years since they worked on Oliver Stone’s 1987 film Wall Street, but these birds of a feather did not flock together on the set. The primary issue was casting: Young, who played the wife of Michael Douglas’ Gordon Gekko, felt that she should have been placed in the much larger role of Sheen’s girlfriend (played, rather poorly, by Daryl Hannah). Young was so sure she had been miscast, in fact, that she began openly campaigning for a switch once the film was already underway, claiming Hannah was unhappy in the part as well. When Stone didn’t oblige, Young reportedly started showing up late and unprepared for her scenes — and Sheen got so sick of her bad behavior that he reportedly taped a note to her back that read “I am a c***.” Young walked around with the note for hours before noticing. And that’s the kind of high school wit that made Sheen the man he is today.

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Here's one: Dustin Hoffman and Meryl Streep in Kramer vs. Kramer. 

 

Hoffman was divorcing his first wife when he did this movie, and wound up taking out a lot of his anger on Streep herself. It should be noted that they've never done another movie together.

 

 

 

There's more here:

 

http://www.tcm.com/essentials/article.html?cid=467407&mainArticleId=463889

 

Can you tell this is one of my favorite movies? :)

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    Decades later, Oliver Stone finally admitted that Sean Young was right. Daryl Hannah was such a poor casting choice for the part. Her line readings were so atrocious. I bet Sean Young would've been amazing in that part.

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    Decades later, Oliver Stone finally admitted that Sean Young was right. Daryl Hannah was such a poor casting choice for the part. Her line readings were so atrocious. I bet Sean Young would've been amazing in that part.

Part of me wishes Oliver wouldn't have admitted that.  Darryl may have been a poor choice but that doesn't make Sean the "right" one.  As we all know Sean Young has some serious issues.  Openly campaigning for another actor's role while filming has begun is a line you don't cross on a movie set.  I have no doubt her and Charlie would have probably killed one another if she was cast as his girlfriend.  So glad that Tim Burton didn't bow down to Sean's bullshit when it came to Batman Returns and cast Michelle Pfeiffer as Catwoman.  One of his best movie decisions.

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    Decades later, Oliver Stone finally admitted that Sean Young was right. Daryl Hannah was such a poor casting choice for the part. Her line readings were so atrocious. I bet Sean Young would've been amazing in that part.

 

As someone who still wonders why the hell Daryl Hannah was in Steel Magnolias, I'd like to have seen Sean Young in the role as well. Sean's got her issues, or had them at least, but at least she can believably portray a human being.

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Speaking of Sean Young and her trail of movie set conflicts, there is her super UGLY affair with James Woods during the shoot of The Boost, when he dumped her and went back to his fiancee, he claimed she terrorized him with a decapitated doll, and photos and poems about violent murder and such. Of course James Woods is pretty much of scuzwad so I can't be all that sorry for him.

I also remember when Penelope Ann Miller was in Carlito's Way, apparently Al Pacino had an affair with her on set, only to end it when the shoot was over and return to his longtime lade friend Laurel something or other, and it was a little shocking because PAM was kind of the Annie Hathaway of her day, but anyway Miller made a HUGE scene at the films premier, in an I'm not gonna be IGNORED (minus the bunnies) kind of way and I'm still not sure that's not why her career went off the rails. 

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Have you ever heard the story of how Jessica Biel posed for Maxim in a deliberate effort to get fired from 7th Heaven?  I don't know if it's true or not but the very suggestion of Biel deliberately attempting to get out of that piece of shit makes me like her a little bit.  That's kind of how I feel about Megan Fox and Transformers/Michael Bay.

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Have you ever heard the story of how Jessica Biel posed for Maxim in a deliberate effort to get fired from 7th Heaven?  I don't know if it's true or not but the very suggestion of Biel deliberately attempting to get out of that piece of shit makes me like her a little bit.  That's kind of how I feel about Megan Fox and Transformers/Michael Bay.

 

It was actually for a magazine called Gear. What makes it a little skeevy, though, is that she was 17, but still posed topless. Granted, I think she may have only been a month or so away from 18, but still.

Sean Young is the definition of bat-shit crazy. Check out her interview from a few years ago with Letterman where she begs for Hollywood to hire her.

 

 

 

And then tried to convince people she wasn't crazy...by donning the Catwoman outfit again. Um, yeah...good luck with that.

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Here's one: Dustin Hoffman and Meryl Streep in Kramer vs. Kramer.

Hoffman was divorcing his first wife when he did this movie, and wound up taking out a lot of his anger on Streep herself. It should be noted that they've never done another movie together.

 

Now that's method! A few years later he notoriously clashed with director Sydney Pollack on Tootsie. As Bill Murray(who played Hoffman's roommate) said years later, they couldn't even agree on "if the sun rose in the east". In fact the reason Pollack said the only reason he played the agent was Hoffman told Pollack the only way he would believe his character would go to such extremes and pretend to be a woman was if  Pollack himself told him "No one will hire you." And then Hoffman as the character would go out to prove him wrong.The part of the agent was originally supposed to be Dabney Coleman who was recast as the soap director and Jessica Lange's boyfriend.

 

 

As someone who still wonders why the hell Daryl Hannah was in Steel Magnolias, I'd like to have seen Sean Young in the role as well. Sean's got her issues, or had them at least, but at least she can believably portray a human being.

 

Speaking of, the director Herbert Ross tormented young Julia Roberts.

 

 

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Oh snap, I wish they repeated what Dolly said to him when he said she couldn't act, because I can only imagine how she went off on him (like Dabney Coleman in 9 to 5)!

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Now that's method! A few years later he notoriously clashed with director Sydney Pollack on Tootsie. As Bill Murray(who played Hoffman's roommate) said years later, they couldn't even agree on "if the sun rose in the east". In fact the reason Pollack said the only reason he played the agent was Hoffman told Pollack the only way he would believe his character would go to such extremes and pretend to be a woman was if  Pollack himself told him "No one will hire you." And then Hoffman as the character would go out to prove him wrong.The part of the agent was originally supposed to be Dabney Coleman who was recast as the soap director and Jessica Lange's boyfriend.

 

 

Speaking of, the director Herbert Ross tormented young Julia Roberts.

 

Despite everyone on Steel Magnolias ending up hating Herb Ross, I kind of like him for that.  I'm kind of not a fan of Ms. Roberts, but that sentiment may belong in Unpopular Opinions. 

 

I don't know the inside scoop on Sydney Pollack, but in interviews and such he came across as pretty laid back for a director; of course, on-set behavior could be totally different.  So I guess Hoffman has really earned his reputation, but I think he owns it.  He's sort of in the same school as Streisand:  Difficult Actor? or Artist with Integrity?

 

Another director/actor feud-type of thing - or maybe just a twisted relationship - is the one between Klaus Kinski (Nastassia's dad) and Werner Herzog, Under a number of different circumstances, Kinski and Herzog threatened, and reportedly tried, to kill each other; yet they continued to work together, I think on a total of 4-5 films.  Herzog's My Best Fiend documents their complex relationship.  

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Despite everyone on Steel Magnolias ending up hating Herb Ross, I kind of like him for that.  I'm kind of not a fan of Ms. Roberts, but that sentiment may belong in Unpopular Opinions.

 

It wasn't just her. In a 60 Minutes interview two years ago Dame Maggie Smith talked about how she found the director of her 1978 movie California Suite(which she won a best supporting actress Oscar) " a bit spiky" and "difficult". She didn't say who it was because "he's no longer with us" but looking up IMDB it was Herbert Ross. Now Maggie wasn't a newbie like Roberts, she was already a 20 year acting veteran at that point and won an Oscar for The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie a decade earlier. Someone told her not to feel bad because he's like that with a lot of people and that the other day Walter Matthau left the set in tears! WALTER MATTHAU.

 

She talks about it at  the 5:00 minute mark:

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/downton-abbey-fame-spotlights-maggie-smith-18-02-2013/

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Oh, I understand that Herb Ross was unpleasant to just about everyone, everywhere and all the time.  But I am fine with his being nasty with Ms. Roberts due to my dislike for her. 

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Titanic (1997)

I recall reading that Cameron was asshole towards Kate Winslet.

Making rude comments about her weight.

Also supposedly got punched in the face by Ed Harris, while filming The Abyss.

For being nasty towards Mary Elizabeth, can't remember her last name.

She played Gina in Scarface.

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During The Breakfast Club, Judd Nelson stayed in character both on and offscreen, and drove poor Molly Ringwald to tears. John Hughes almost fired him, but Paul Gleason (Principal Vernon--Bender's rival) convinced him to keep Nelson. 

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Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio  (from The Abyss and Scarface).   Yeah, I believe James Cameron has made a lot of enemies; but on the other hand, he's done some really neat science-ocean-possibly philanthropic stuff in real life.    

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For being nasty towards Mary Elizabeth, can't remember her last name.

 

Matrantonio.

 

 

During The Breakfast Club, Judd Nelson stayed in character both on and offscreen, and drove poor Molly Ringwald to tears. John Hughes almost fired him, but Paul Gleason (Principal Vernon--Bender's rival) convinced him to keep Nelson.

 

There was an "Oral History" of the Breakfast Club in Premiere Magazine back in 1999 and they recount when the actor playing the janitor(John Kapelos) makes a HUGE faux pas:

 

NELSON: Kapelos was doing his scene where he [comes into the library} and he's talking about what is going to happen to our characters in ten years. [The scene isn't in the film.} Emilio and I were a little giggly. We started work every day at 8 A.M., so by 4:30 we'd get a little distracted.

KAPELOS: It's my close-up, and Emilio and Judd are fucking with me, making noises, making googly eyes. During one of the breaks, I said, "You guys would have been great working with Martin Sheen on Apocalypse Now."

NELSON: And he starts talking about how Martin Sheen takes things so seriously that when he did Apocalypse Now, he actually had a heart attack. I'm laughing. Emilio is not laughing.

KAPELOS: Emilio's face just goes ashen, and Judd's looking at me like, I can't believe you're saying this! And John comes up to me and whispers, "Martin is Emilio's father." I turned to Emilio and said, "I'm so fucking sorry! I didn't know!"

SHEEDY: It was awful. Everybody lost it.

HUGHES: I saw Kapelos a couple of years later, and he said, "At least once a year I wake up screaming in the middle of the night. Of all the actors in all of the movies I've seen, why did I pick that one?!"

 

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This is probably just an attention ploy but apparently, Eli James and Sam Taylor-Johnson clashed on the set of 50 Shades of Grey.

 

 I can see preserving the sex scenes, but I hope to god Sam was able to get Anastasia to actually sound more like a 22-year old girl and not a menopausal woman spouting things about "inner goddess" and the like. Twilight really benefited from not having as much of Bella's inner-voice as it does in the book. (My god, Bella came off as such a stuck-up bitch.)

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It would not surprise me if it comes out that Dakota Johnson and Jamie Dornan don't like each other that much. Their body language in interviews together just looks like two people who aren't overly fond of each other.

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This is probably just an attention ploy but apparently, Eli James and Sam Taylor-Johnson clashed on the set of 50 Shades of Grey.

 

 I can see preserving the sex scenes, but I hope to god Sam was able to get Anastasia to actually sound more like a 22-year old girl and not a menopausal woman spouting things about "inner goddess" and the like. Twilight really benefited from not having as much of Bella's inner-voice as it does in the book. (My god, Bella came off as such a stuck-up bitch.)

 

During filming last year, there were reports of Sam Taylor-Johnson and EL James clashing on the set, that they laughed off by posing together, but it's pretty easy to believe they had wildly differing visions of the story. The most surprising thing from that article is that they settled Dakota Johnson early on in the process. Maybe she's the perfect sort of Everywoman avatar for the audience.

 

It would not surprise me if it comes out that Dakota Johnson and Jamie Dornan don't like each other that much. Their body language in interviews together just looks like two people who aren't overly fond of each other.

 

Compare it to JLo and Ryan Guzman promoting The Boy Next Door together; people saw them interacting a few times and just as quickly, dating rumors galore (which they deny). It isn't that two actors playing an onscreen have to sell the "are they/aren't they" level of chemistry in real life, but it's not the greatest advertising for such a supposedly steamy movie, that the two playing the sexy lovers always seem so stilted and awkward when compelled to be in each other's company.

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Titanic (1997)

I recall reading that Cameron was asshole towards Kate Winslet.

Making rude comments about her weight.

 

Cameron also kept a treadmill on set exclusively for KW.  And he expected her to use it often.  I'm just imagining that poor woman in those heavy ass dresses trying to walk off any nonexistent calories.  Ugh.

 

David O. Russell and his asshole antics were my first thought when this thread came up, but he's been covered.  Hehe.  Clooney may annoy a lot of people, but he'll always have my respect for punching that jerkass director in the face.

 

Interesting about Meryl Streep and Dustin Hoffman because a few years ago, she was interviewed about her "biggest" films and she considers K vs K to be entirely Dustin's movie, not hers.

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Not surprised about Hoffman.

John Singleton originally wanted him as the Professor in Higher Learning.

They clashed, due to script changes he demanded.

That would've made it a "White Savior" film.

Enter Laurence Fishburne, who replaced him.

Similar situation with Far From Heaven, Russell Crowe was an early choice.

To play the husband, he insisted on script changes and too much money.

Glad he passed on the project, Dennis was great in the role.

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If you're not already familiar with it there's a great blog series called "What The Hell Happened To..." featuring stars from the 80's and the 90's whose movie careers took a nose dive. They're very funny (without being mean spirited), in depth and has some great stories including clashes on set. Several of the actors you've mentioned in this thread have articles, like Sean Young, Debra Winger, Penelope Ann Miller, Emilo Estevez, and more. I believe some actors even posted in the comments, like Sean Young.

 

I will warn you that you may fall down a rabbit hole reading these! 

 

http://lebeauleblog.com/category/movies/what-the-hell-happened/ (If you go to last page of someone's article there will be a list of all the featured actors and actresses)

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Interesting about Meryl Streep and Dustin Hoffman because a few years ago, she was interviewed about her "biggest" films and she considers K vs K to be entirely Dustin's movie, not hers.

 

Streep is barely in Kramer vs. Kramer though, which always surprises me because when I think of that film I think of her.

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Joelene, thank you for the link to that blog.  I looked up Emilio Estevez because recently he referred to himself as primarily a farmer (a vineyard that has received some good press, I think) rather than being in entertainment.  Geez, there's tons of info of all kinds on there!

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I remember another funny one with Shelley Winters.  Sometime in the late '80s she was on a talk show with Zsa Zsa, who she obviously despised.  Zsa Zsa was telling the story of her childhood and said when she came to America, she couldn't speak any English.

 

Without missing a beat, Shelley replied with not a little bit of venom in her tone, "You can't speak it NOW."   Bitch went unsaid, but I still heard her say it.

 

Zsa Zsa turned red and gritted her teeth.  She steamed for the rest of the show. 

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Geez, there's tons of info of all kinds on there!

I know, I had no idea how crazy some of these actors were before I read their articles. Sean Young for instance was an eye-opener! Or Anne Heche having an alter ego called Celestia and telling strangers she was God taking them to heaven in a spaceship. And even when I wasn't particularly a fan or very familiar with some of these people the stories are very interesting.

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This thread is amazing. Thank you everyone.

 

I have no idea who Sean Young is, but OMG.

 

She made a video about her Catwoman thing on Youtube. It needs to be seen to be believed.

 

Yeah, I'm sorry, but of the actresses that were the right age in 1991/1992, there is no one more naturally feline-looking or graceful than Michelle Pfeiffer.

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If celebrities gossiping about other celebrities interests you, you must get hold of Hollywood Babble On, by Boze Hadleigh. It's from the mid-90's and so won't have a lot of the more recent gossip, but there's plenty about the old time stars, including Vivian Leigh saying that doing love scenes with Clark Gable in GWTW wasn't very romantic because he had bad breath from wearing dentures. Davis and Crawford have plenty to say about each other, of course. I'm Team Davis when it comes to their movies. But there does seem to have been some kind of cosmic justice meted out when Davis gloated after Mommie Dearest that her daughter would never write such a book. A few years later, B.D. Hyman did just that with My Mother's Keeper.

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