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http://www.mtv.com/news/2084071/ed-sheeran-songs/

 

I didn't know Ed Sheeran had written any 1D songs, let alone four. The songs are very Ed-Sheeran-y. His style surprisingly fits very well with their other songs, even their recent ones

 

They are very good friends with Ed.  There's quite a few videos of them together just hanging out.  They are hilarious when together.  Especially Ed and Harry.

 

Since the inception of this thread I have been dragged kicking and screaming into the 1D fandom and holy shit....is all I can say.  Seen them twice in concert.  They are electrifying.

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Well, Drag Me Down has done pretty well...it reached Top 5, fell back down out of the top 20, and now it's back to being top 20. Good for them. They're still relevant after 5 years and losing a band member.

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So, I ran into a documentary about the 1970's Scottish boyband, the Bay City Rollers. They inexplicably shot to mega-fame for a brief period in the mid-1970's despite a lack of talent or truly good looks (kind of pale and scrawny-looking with bad teeth), and their lives came crashing down when they discovered they were screwed out of the money that was owed to them. One of them was arrested for child porn back in 2000 (and he was a NURSE), and their former manager was arrested for having sex with underage teenagers back in the early 1980's. Various suicide attempts and addictions plagued them.

I remember their one big U.S. hit, Saturday Night, but it was interesting to see how much more extensive their 1970's U.K. career was. And just how bitter and acrimonious their split was. They're now trying to do a nostalgia tour (3 of the classic line-up reunited), and it's pretty neat to see all of these verging-on-senior-citizen women re-living their youth, like the New Kids on the Block fandom. It's like a U.K. version of that scene from the Brady Bunch where all those women rush the stage for Davy Jones.

Les McKeown seemed deeply troubled, but it seems like he's gotten himself together enough to do a tour, although his live voice is absolutely terrible. Oh, well. I still wish them the best of luck! If the Four Seasons can do it, why not them?

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Duran Duran is touring the U.S. this summer- pretty cool to see they're still at it (and still looking damn good) after all these decades:

I think it'd be a major waste if they don't get them to play "Rio" at the Olympics opening this summer.

I've seen three documentaries on them. They have to be the most tight-lipped about any real dirt. They vaguely hint about John Taylor's drug problem, and the group exits, but they generally seemed to have had a rather harmonious existence.

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I saw Duran Duran a few years ago and they were great!  Except?  They didn't sing Rio!  Who made that decision!?  After the first (and only) encore, they left the stage and people sat around chanting "Rio", but no luck.  As I was leaving, I heard a man say to his date, sounding disappointed, "I paid for Rio" lol!  Then, on the way out, the crowd starting singing it.  That was pretty fun and I hope they heard it. 

In other boy band news, Hanson just did an acoustic version of Mmmm Bop and it's pretty good.

http://www.refinery29.com/2016/07/116282/hanson-acoustic-mmmbop

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The Bay City Roller's reunion as the world's oldest boyband is officially dunzo, as Woody quit the band after 4 winter gigs and 1 summer gig. All signs are pointing to Les McKeown being a total ass. Eric Faulkner is probably glad he stayed far, far away from it.

I don't know if I'd really classify them as a boyband, but Culture Club has reunited and they're touring this summer. (Honestly, I think they'd be good touring partners with Duran Duran.)

To be fair to Duran Duran, they do have a pretty huge catalogue, and they do want to fit newer stuff in as well. I can't be too surprised if some things get cut.

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so it's been almost a year since One Direction split up and so far, there hasn't really been a breakout star. I wrote a small piece on teenage music acts in the time of social media a while back, which got me interested in them. They're taking their time much more than back in the days, but past boybands didn't have social media to prolong their relevance. So far we've had Zayn who started strong, but fizzled out pretty quickly, these days I mostly only hear about him in relation to his famous supermodel girlfriend and he seems to be cashing checks where he can (an autobiography at 23, producing a show about boybands after all his drama with his own). He's very attractive but he might just not have the personality needed to be huge.

The others haven't done much of anything so far. Niall has a song out that's doing decently, which is good for him but I don't see him as one for big stardom either. Liam seems to be gearing up to something but he doesn't have the hype that Zayn had (the one who left) or the bigger fanbase that Niall has. If his music is good, he might be able to establish himself, otherwise I doubt it will amount to much.

Harry Styles is the one I'm waiting for, since he's always been the most famous member, but he's done very little this year, almost disappeared completely. There was that big fashion shoot my younger cousin freaked out about, which looked cool, but other than that he's been super private. Can any of them afford to wait that long to put out music? The general public is going to lose interest, if it hasn't already. Zayn had the media hype but couldn't really turn it into hits, aside from his first single. None of them will have that same built-in publicity for their solo launch, so we'll see if any of them catch on with people.

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On 10/23/2016 at 1:29 AM, KatWay said:

so it's been almost a year since One Direction split up and so far, there hasn't really been a breakout star. I wrote a small piece on teenage music acts in the time of social media a while back, which got me interested in them. They're taking their time much more than back in the days, but past boybands didn't have social media to prolong their relevance. So far we've had Zayn who started strong, but fizzled out pretty quickly, these days I mostly only hear about him in relation to his famous supermodel girlfriend and he seems to be cashing checks where he can (an autobiography at 23, producing a show about boybands after all his drama with his own). He's very attractive but he might just not have the personality needed to be huge.

The others haven't done much of anything so far. Niall has a song out that's doing decently, which is good for him but I don't see him as one for big stardom either. Liam seems to be gearing up to something but he doesn't have the hype that Zayn had (the one who left) or the bigger fanbase that Niall has. If his music is good, he might be able to establish himself, otherwise I doubt it will amount to much.

Harry Styles is the one I'm waiting for, since he's always been the most famous member, but he's done very little this year, almost disappeared completely. There was that big fashion shoot my younger cousin freaked out about, which looked cool, but other than that he's been super private. Can any of them afford to wait that long to put out music? The general public is going to lose interest, if it hasn't already. Zayn had the media hype but couldn't really turn it into hits, aside from his first single. None of them will have that same built-in publicity for their solo launch, so we'll see if any of them catch on with people.

Ugh...they didn't split up.  They took a break.  A break that they specifically stated would be a year long or more.

Harry in that time has signed a record deal for three solos and filmed a movie with Christopher Nolan.  The Another Man shoot, while "looking cool" was also a huge hit and established him away from the band which has been very smart.  If the reaction to the mag was any indication, it doesn't matter how long he's gone...people will always pay attention to what he's doing.

Niall's song hit #1 in just about every industrialized country within 24 hours of it's release (just to be clear, NO other artists this year have done that, not even JT's monster "Can't Stop The Feeling").  He is on a couple late night shows and Ellen next week in the states and he's stated a few times that a tour is imminent.  Until then he's doing most of the major "Jingle Ball" related shows for the holidays.  For a kid who doesn't even have an album to release, I'd say that's pretty good for his ticket into "big stardom".

I think it's important to realize that the United States is not the entire world (although when Niall released his song, it went to Ryan Seacrest first so....).  Simply because they aren't making headlines here doesn't mean they aren't still clamored for in other countries.  Although they are still making headlines here....Harry and Niall are still major draws in the UK.  Niall was a surprise opener for BBC Radio 1's teen choice awards this weekend and the response was crazy.  

No one cares what Zayn is doing anymore.  His demise had little to do with the fact that he didn't have the band behind him anymore and more to do with the fact that he's smack in the middle of a Britney Spears style breakdown.  I don't think it's fair to compare them to what he's not been able to do.

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Man, I was hearing LFO's "Every Other Time" on this old compilation CD I have and it just bums me out again to think about poor Rich Cronin, may he rest in peace. Pre-sickness, he really was the living embodiment of late 90's/Y2K-era male beauty standards. It's such a shame, especially when you think about how all those 90's boybands are doing reunion tours and cashing in on nostalgia right now. LFO totally could have done a tour with a similar-tiered band, like O-Town.

Alright, to lighten the mood back up, here's another boyband tune from that time period..."Back Here" by the Irish boyband BBMak.

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Re: One Direction... So far most of them seem fine. I maintained for a while that based on their performance on X Factor (and their first auditions in particular) that Liam had the best voice. I hope he's doing what makes him happy but getting into a relationship with Cheryl Cole isn't really the best branding choice, especially when your fan base is teenage girls. At least Zayn was with Perry from Little Mix for a while. I like some of the stuff they released. If they don't get back together it won't upset me but while they lasted, they were a good vehicle for delivering pop music.

I've been thinking about boy bands because this season of X Factor is shaping up to be terrible and the Groups, with a few exceptions, rarely seem to work. Of course if you look at the most successful groups you'd think that's a winning formula but year after year the majority of the groups have difficulty getting traction whether it's because of lack of talent or audience interest or branding/genre definition or what have you. My parents are watching this show from the Philippines called Pinoy Boyband Superstar which is very interesting because it's stark about the need for the boys to be attractive and it just throws people together to see what happens. So kind of like how they made One Direction but all out in the open and part of the reality show process. Most of the bands are not good and I personally think some of them are awkward with the mix of ages and styles. 

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Liam definitely had the best voice, and was way advanced at the beginning. What Liam lacks, and Simon Cowell saw that, was/is that It-factor, charisma or whatever. On his own, he wouldn't have caught on. The other boys in the beginning were mostly meant to be a vehicle for Liam to perform better and make it IMO, since they brought him out of his shell a bit and he was showcased in performances.

It's interesting, with boybands/girlbands there's always that stigma of being manufactured and that idea, oh you could toss anyone together and they'd be successful but history has shown that's absolutely not true. It's very rare for them to make it. Why did One Direction work and all the other X-Factor boybands fail? Social media played a role, with the way they worked that very well, from the start. The fact that they were funny, goofy and had good chemistry. They were all more or less the same height when they started and similar types, they looked good together. Even so, while I'm sure they'll all be fine in the end, it's just not realistic to assume they'll all be major A-list musicians, and talent-wise none of them stand out intensely.

Justin Timberlake wasn't the best singer of his group (justice for JC), but he could dance, was very charismatic, he had the Britney connection and he worked hard. Zayn has Gigi, the voice and the face, but he doesn't have that hustle. And he's not very charismatic live, either on stage or in interviews. Niall is working very hard right now, he's everywhere with that single but he's very boy-next-door and his voice isn't particularly strong. Liam will work hard, but his branding isn't great, white boy R&B isn't very en vogue right now and Cheryl is unpopular with his teenage fanbase. Harry will need to make a splash if he plans to re-enter the scene next year, after lying so low this year, but he could possibly pull it off. If his music is good.

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I really thought Emblem3 was going to break out, because those guys were hot and they kind of had that laidback, California-cool style to them. But they apparently couldn't stand each other. I also wonder if being on the X-Factor was a big mistake- they probably would have been better off paying their dues as a garage band instead of getting into a machine like that.

The Vamps and 5 Seconds of Summer probably fit themselves into whatever slot that Emblem3 would have had.

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On 10/24/2016 at 0:18 PM, CaughtOnTape said:

Ugh...they didn't split up.  They took a break.  A break that they specifically stated would be a year long or more.

 

I was listening to my car radio today, & one of the local stations is having some kind of event with concert, & Niall is performing. They announced him as "Niall Horan, formerly of One Direction". 

Is MKTO considered a boy band?

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On ‎11‎/‎1‎/‎2016 at 1:17 PM, KatWay said:

Liam definitely had the best voice, and was way advanced at the beginning. What Liam lacks, and Simon Cowell saw that, was/is that It-factor, charisma or whatever. On his own, he wouldn't have caught on. The other boys in the beginning were mostly meant to be a vehicle for Liam to perform better and make it IMO, since they brought him out of his shell a bit and he was showcased in performances.

It's interesting, with boybands/girlbands there's always that stigma of being manufactured and that idea, oh you could toss anyone together and they'd be successful but history has shown that's absolutely not true. It's very rare for them to make it. Why did One Direction work and all the other X-Factor boybands fail? Social media played a role, with the way they worked that very well, from the start. The fact that they were funny, goofy and had good chemistry. They were all more or less the same height when they started and similar types, they looked good together. Even so, while I'm sure they'll all be fine in the end, it's just not realistic to assume they'll all be major A-list musicians, and talent-wise none of them stand out intensely.

Justin Timberlake wasn't the best singer of his group (justice for JC), but he could dance, was very charismatic, he had the Britney connection and he worked hard. Zayn has Gigi, the voice and the face, but he doesn't have that hustle. And he's not very charismatic live, either on stage or in interviews. Niall is working very hard right now, he's everywhere with that single but he's very boy-next-door and his voice isn't particularly strong. Liam will work hard, but his branding isn't great, white boy R&B isn't very en vogue right now and Cheryl is unpopular with his teenage fanbase. Harry will need to make a splash if he plans to re-enter the scene next year, after lying so low this year, but he could possibly pull it off. If his music is good.

The one thing about Boy Bands (and Girl Groups) especially on a reality competition is that they have to blend together but also each has to have his (or her) own hook to stand out too. The 1D boys all came into the group with similar but distinct personalities and looks and the show did a good job of selling each personality. It's the reason The Spice Girls broke out so quickly. Each girl was a branded "type" that fans could latch onto. 1D did a very good job of getting every guy out there as his own guy who was part of the group. Contrast that with some guy groups where no one knows every member's name and you can see why they worked. NSYNC was the same way. People mock the hair now, but those nutty hairstyles (JT ramen noodle curls were awful and they still weren't the worst in the group) were key for quickly giving each guy an identity and helping them stand out early on.

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It's interesting, with boybands/girlbands there's always that stigma of being manufactured and that idea, oh you could toss anyone together and they'd be successful but history has shown that's absolutely not true. It's very rare for them to make it. 

I'm not really too upset about it, especially with something like X Factor where you're stuck having a certain number of contestants for each category even if a particular category sucks one year. It's easier to make a group and see if it works than sneak a new Over in there. That said, 4 of Diamonds this year are kind of getting on my nerves because I don't think they've ever really admitted that production got them together and they keep saying stuff in their VT about being friends and this and that. With One Direction and Little Mix everything was out in the open. Or, to go farther back, S Club 7 had a fictional TV show. 

If we're talking X Factor, I was partial to Union J. Or really, mostly Jaymi, though the others weren't too bad. Stereo Kicks amused me though I never thought they were a viable band. It would have been too ridiculous but if someone wanted to do a parody where they voted guys in and out of the group, it would have been very funny. And I don't think many people would have noticed. There were 8 of them! Though I've heard some K-Pop groups/J-Pop groups have a lot of people too.

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On 11/2/2016 at 3:39 AM, GaT said:

I was listening to my car radio today, & one of the local stations is having some kind of event with concert, & Niall is performing. They announced him as "Niall Horan, formerly of One Direction". 

Is MKTO considered a boy band?

According to the episode of Wahlburgers they guest-starred on, they are.

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Niall's song sounds like something Ed Sheeran would put out. Not that that's a bad thing, and it's probable Ed Sheeran did have input on it cuz I'm pretty sure that they're friends. 

and considering Ed Sheeran wrote some of 1D's songs, it's not a huge deviation from their stuff. Louis' EDM song didn't surprise me either, it's probably the music genre he's got suitable vocals for. I read about his mother in the papers, so I hope the song does well for him.

Zayn's solo launch is about to get another boost, but it almost seems a bit desperate to attach himself to Taylor Swift's (of all people, not exactly the kind of gritty R&B he said he wanted to do last year, remember how music was too "commercial" and "generic" then?) new song. That song will be a guaranteed hit but it's because of her. He's billed first, but has no writing credit, so the only thing I'm taking away from that song is how nice of Taylor to do that favour for her good friend's boyfriend.

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I suppose it's beneficial for Taylor too, trying to make an effort to win over the One Directioners who probably hate her because she dated Harry for a hot minute. (Do they still hate her for that? I'm really not knowledgable on 1D stuff)

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I suppose it's beneficial for Taylor too, trying to make an effort to win over the One Directioners who probably hate her because she dated Harry for a hot minute. (Do they still hate her for that? I'm really not knowledgable on 1D stuff)

if they do, I doubt associating herself with Zayn, who's at best a polarising figure in the 1D fandom (as far as I know) is going to help with that. Plus I thought they forgave her when she wrote half a Grammy-winning album about him, that certainly was a boost to his image.

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On 12/18/2016 at 2:07 AM, KatWay said:

if they do, I doubt associating herself with Zayn, who's at best a polarising figure in the 1D fandom (as far as I know) is going to help with that. Plus I thought they forgave her when she wrote half a Grammy-winning album about him, that certainly was a boost to his image.

If by "boost to his image" you mean made him look like a womanizing, cheating, uncaring, complete fuckwad who broke her poor little country girl heart.

Most 1D fans don't pay attention to Taylor.  If anything there is still a huge following for "Haylor" from those wanting them to get back together.  Though I'm not sure where that comes from considering Harry has made it fairly clear he wants nothing to do with her.

And her new song with Zayn is terrible....she should stick to singing her own music where she's not up against someone who can actually sing.

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And her new song with Zayn is terrible....she should stick to singing her own music where she's not up against someone who can actually sing.

I'm not saying this as a defense of Taylor, but Zayn can't sing. From the beginning he hasn't been a good singer. 

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New Kids on the Block made an appearance on Fuller House:

I will give them that they look good. Even Danny grew into his ape features. That had to be such a blast for the Fuller House ladies.

Back over to Duran Duran...in the Irish period film Sing Street, Jack Reynor extolls the virtues of Duran Duran:

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Adults React to One Direction solo careers:

I can't see Liam or Louis doing much, honestly. In the case of Harry, Zayn, and Niall- they're all doing pretty different music so I can seem them all doing pretty well. Zayn seems incredibly miserable though. I don't know if that's just a marketing ploy but he always seems to have this depressed sneer on his face.

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Is there a forum for ABC's new Boy Band competition?  I can't find one.

So the first guy they show they have to start off with him giving us a soulful look and then take his shirt off to swim in the ocean.  So I don't think they're really looking for singers.

Ugh, more soulful looks.  Sigh.

Nick Carter actually sounds intelligent.

Ugh, the dramatic pauses while they choose those to move on.

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I went to the NKOTB concert in Tampa last night.  They killed it.  I've pretty much seen them anytime they come close to where I live when they reunited in 2008, and every show has been phenomenal.  It's silly, fun, well produced, and the guys sound and look good.  I fell in love with Jordan Knight at 6 and Imma be in love with Jordan Knight for the rest of my life...damn him, and his fine, good singing ass.  I don't know how, but NKOTB keeps getting better and better.

I think what strikes me about them is that they really want to make the best show possible for the fans.  We danced, we sang, we laughed, we swooned.  The show itself feels really professional, and they gave it 100% and even when the show was over, the guys hung around taking pictures and chatting with fans.  You could see they were genuinely touched by the love and reaction from the crowd, not just last night, but the cumulative 30 years prior.  We love them and they love us.  

As a vet of going to these shows, I also adore NKOTB fans.  You make friends wherever you go:  Bathroom line, drinks line, dinner at the restaurant down the street.  People are super happy to be there and you just jump into nice conversations with cool people.  

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America's new boyband?

They're a Korean boygroup but their fanbase in the US seems quite large, if they've been trending here on Youtube for the past few hours. Their single is in the top5 at iTunes too. I guess there really is a vacuum right now...at least these guys seem like genuinely good performers, plus the song is catchy. I've been following their rise for a bit now it's kinda fascinating that there's a market for this here in the West.

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On 10/31/2016 at 10:56 PM, aradia22 said:

Re: One Direction... So far most of them seem fine. I maintained for a while that based on their performance on X Factor (and their first auditions in particular) that Liam had the best voice. I hope he's doing what makes him happy but getting into a relationship with Cheryl Cole isn't really the best branding choice, especially when your fan base is teenage girls. At least Zayn was with Perry from Little Mix for a while. I like some of the stuff they released. If they don't get back together it won't upset me, but while they lasted, they were a good vehicle for delivering pop music.

I've been thinking about boy bands because this season of X Factor is shaping up to be terrible and the Groups, with a few exceptions, rarely seem to work. Of course if you look at the most successful groups you'd think that's a winning formula but year after year the majority of the groups have difficulty getting traction whether it's because of lack of talent or audience interest or branding/genre definition or what have you. My parents are watching this show from the Philippines called Pinoy TV Boyband Superstar which is very interesting because it's stark about the need for the boys to be attractive and it just throws people together to see what happens. So kind of like how they made One Direction but all out in the open and part of the reality show process. Most of the bands are not good and I personally think some of them are awkward with the mix of ages and styles. 

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Flipino is wierd language for me. I cant bear too hear it ughhhh

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On 10/1/2017 at 11:09 PM, Silver Raven said:

I like the One Direction members' singles way better than their group efforts.

I really enjoyed "Sign of the Times". "Slow Hands" is a great tune as well, but I liked the melancholy feel of "Sign of the Times".

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10 hours ago, methodwriter85 said:

My god, I just realized this came out 20 years ago. Damn.

Well, now I feel old :p. 

My sister was in love with Drew from that group. I didn't really have a thing for any of the guys, myself (though I did think Jeff had really nice arms :D), but yeah, I definitely liked their music. This is probably my favorite song of theirs:

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And this is mine LOL:

 

It tickles me how obvious it is that Nick is wearing lipgloss in the video.

I always wished that Brian & AJ from BSB, Justin and JC from NSYNC, and Nick & Jeff would have done a charity song together back then.  I also think 98 Degrees would have been more successful if they stuck to a strictly R&B sound instead of  trying to be the 3rd wheel of boybands. Nick and Jeff had voices that wouldn't have been out of place on R&B radio.

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I could have seen them rocking the hell out of "Too Close" by Next, which British boyband Blue covered later on.

I think it's interesting that British pop never really seems to wane, and girl/boy pop bands never go out of style. I mean, the bands change of course, but happy poppy music never really seems to leave. It's in stark contrast to the United States, where pop bubbles happen and then burst, and it usually takes about 4/6 years for a new one to occur.

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On 1/23/2018 at 8:39 PM, 27bored said:

Me neither.

 

I just came to post that Hey Mr. DJ by BSB is a great song, but it sounds like BSB’s attempt to do an *NSYNC song.

That was BSB's original sound when they were big in Europe before making it in the US. When 'N Sync was put together, their shared higher ups decided that 'N Sync should focus on that sound and BSB should focus more on the love ballads. But the groups still were offered some of the same songs, I remember. 

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I wasn't feeling too hot tonight so I went on BSB binge on YouTube. I completely forgot about this song and how much I love it. It's a shame they never released it as a single. I think it would've been huge.

The Backstreet Boys keep trying to reinvent their sound to stay current and I just want them to sound like this again:

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OMG....I still love some BSBs for sure. Just the other day, this song came on the radio and I turned it up and started singing along! For some reason, this song has always stuck with me.  I just like everything about it.

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6 minutes ago, Misslindsey said:

I do not understand the appeal of BTS. Though to be fair, I am way out of the age demographic for them.

I don't get the K-Pop craze at all and never have. All of these groups throughout the years have been interchangeable to me. 

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I'm not into boy bands now, but, when I came up they were a big deal.  I was too old for Backstreet too, but, I still enjoyed their music.

Since, it meant so much to me as a kid, teen, etc.  I think it just carries over into adulthood. That's why Donny and Marie have had such a huge success with their Vegas show. (So sad that's ending.)

  Bands of all kinds used to be really big years ago.(Beatles, Rolling Stones, Fleetwood Mac, Eagles, CCR, Pink Floyd, Zeppelin, Bon Jovi, Areosmith, AC/DC, Black Sabboth, and many more)  Now, solo acts are more prominent. 

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3 hours ago, Misslindsey said:

I do not understand the appeal of BTS. Though to be fair, I am way out of the age demographic for them.

2 hours ago, truthaboutluv said:

I don't get the K-Pop craze at all and never have. All of these groups throughout the years have been interchangeable to me. 

I don't understand why their songs have some English in them. You hear them singing in (I assume) Korean, then all of a sudden there's a couple of lines in English. What's up with that?

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On 5/17/2019 at 1:52 PM, GaT said:

I do not understand the appeal of BTS. Though to be fair, I am way out of the age demographic for them.

I am out of their age range also but I still enjoy boy bands. Just not them !

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I've seen BTS a few times on tv and I think they're adorable and I love their dance moves.  This is coming from someone old enough to be their grandma.  And I don't care!  😄

Not that I'd ever want to see them in person (or any other boy band for that matter) because the screaming girls would probably throw my old ass out, lol.

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