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43 minutes ago, AZChristian said:

Are you giving yourself rewards (NOT food-related) when you hit certain goals? 

Definitely. My ultimate reward when I get to my goal weight will be a trip to Iceland to go horseback riding in the north (all pending on being able to travel). My short term reward is an exercise bike. I've been wanting one for awhile, especially since the weather is starting to get cold and nasty enough to keep me from going on my runs as often as I'd like (and will only get worse as winter rolls in). Took advantage of Amazon Prime day...

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8 hours ago, Hana Chan said:

FINALLY! I weight myself this morning at was exactly 199 pounds! I finally broke the 200 pound mark. After several months of a really frustrating plateau where my weight would only drop by incremental amounts, this is such a huge relief. Sticking to my eating and exercise plan is finally paying off.


Congratulations!  

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On 10/13/2020 at 4:55 PM, Hellga said:


Congratulations!  

Thank you! I got an even nicer surprise this morning when I got on the scale.

197.6

And my exercise bike arrived this morning. I'll have the fun of lugging the parts upstairs to my office after I have my coffee. The tech is arriving tomorrow morning to put it together. Part of me still eyes bikes like Pelaton with envy but that's out of my budget and I wanted to get a recumbent bike so my folks (who are older) can use it too. But I really didn't need so many bells and whistles. Just something to keep my ass moving when the weather is too nasty to go out (or if I want to squeeze in a mini-workout on my lunch breaks when i'm working from home).

On 10/13/2020 at 12:54 PM, CrazyInAlabama said:

Hana, one thing that helped with the seat on my old exercise bike was a fake shearling seat cover.     They really help with the seat comfort.  

I'm going to test out the seat and see what padding it needs. Fortunately because it's a recumbent bike, I don't think it will need the kind of tush protection I'd want with a standard bike.

Reminds me of when I bought a saddle cushion for my cross-country riding treks. My first one was in Ireland and after 7 hours in the saddle (in the rain no less), I could barely move. My ass definitely appreciated a bit of extra padding the next time around.

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Yes, the recumbent seats are usually a lot wider, and much more comfortable.  

I also found that my lower back didn't like when I have the seat adjusted so my legs gets totally straight, it seems to do a whiplash effect on my lower back, so a teensy bit short of having you leg lock out seems better. 

I'm so sorry to hear about your mother.    

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I'm afraid that I'm going to have to go away for awhile. We just found out that my mother has metastatic pancreatic cancer. Thankfully I work at one of the top cancer centers in the world, but I know too well what this means. We're in for a real fight in the coming weeks.

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1 hour ago, Hana Chan said:

I'm afraid that I'm going to have to go away for awhile. We just found out that my mother has metastatic pancreatic cancer. Thankfully I work at one of the top cancer centers in the world, but I know too well what this means. We're in for a real fight in the coming weeks.

I am so sorry. My thoughts and prayers are with you.  If you need to vent I think this would be a safe place. 

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1 hour ago, Hana Chan said:

I'm afraid that I'm going to have to go away for awhile. We just found out that my mother has metastatic pancreatic cancer. Thankfully I work at one of the top cancer centers in the world, but I know too well what this means. We're in for a real fight in the coming weeks.

I'm so sorry :(. My mother had the same cancer, so I know this feeling all too well. Please know that you have support here if you need it.

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9 hours ago, Hana Chan said:

I'm afraid that I'm going to have to go away for awhile. We just found out that my mother has metastatic pancreatic cancer. Thankfully I work at one of the top cancer centers in the world, but I know too well what this means. We're in for a real fight in the coming weeks.

I am so sorry.  My thoughts and prayers are with you and your Mom...

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I saw a news story today on one of my local news channels about non-invasive bariatric surgery. They had a local doctor -- forgot to note his name -- who specializes in that type of surgery. I found one part of the conversation to be very disturbing.

As he was discussing the different types of non-invasive surgeries and who is a candidate for them, he mentioned a procedure that he does on people who have already had bariatric surgery but essentially ate their way through it. What disturbed me is when he said that there are millions of people out there who have lost 100, 200, even 300 pounds and gained it all back after invasive bariatric surgery. He then put up a graphic showing how he can restore that original procedure in a non-invasive way.

My question for all of you is do you think he was exaggerating by saying that there are millions of people like this? I know that we have a problem with obesity in the United States but, after years of watching M600PL, I always assumed that the amount of people who were super morbidly obese were AND defeated previous weight loss surgeries were few and far between, certainly not in the millions. My gut tells me he had to be exaggerating but what do you all think?

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14 hours ago, DC Gal in VA said:

I saw a news story today on one of my local news channels about non-invasive bariatric surgery. They had a local doctor -- forgot to note his name -- who specializes in that type of surgery. I found one part of the conversation to be very disturbing.

As he was discussing the different types of non-invasive surgeries and who is a candidate for them, he mentioned a procedure that he does on people who have already had bariatric surgery but essentially ate their way through it. What disturbed me is when he said that there are millions of people out there who have lost 100, 200, even 300 pounds and gained it all back after invasive bariatric surgery. He then put up a graphic showing how he can restore that original procedure in a non-invasive way.

My question for all of you is do you think he was exaggerating by saying that there are millions of people like this? I know that we have a problem with obesity in the United States but, after years of watching M600PL, I always assumed that the amount of people who were super morbidly obese were AND defeated previous weight loss surgeries were few and far between, certainly not in the millions. My gut tells me he had to be exaggerating but what do you all think?

A friend of mine, had bariatric surgery a year ago... And she has been honest that after a year, her appetite has returned and she no longer gets sick/ has gastric distress if she eats too much. She is worried she has already stretched out her stomach.... A family member also had surgery and then gained it all back after 2 years... So, from my sample size of 2, this news does not surprise me. But, its very anecdotal. 

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12 hours ago, watchingtvaddict said:

A friend of mine, had bariatric surgery a year ago... And she has been honest that after a year, her appetite has returned and she no longer gets sick/ has gastric distress if she eats too much. She is worried she has already stretched out her stomach.... A family member also had surgery and then gained it all back after 2 years... So, from my sample size of 2, this news does not surprise me. But, its very anecdotal. 

Gee, sorry to hear that. It's obviously so true that the surgery is no magic bullet. We have seen more than a few poundticipants on M600PL have that same attitude even after being forewarned by Dr. Now.

So much of what these folks need to work on is above the neck meaning a lot of therapy plus major behavior modification and yes I'm going to use some politically incorrect words: discipline and self-control.

Yes, these folks are addicted, not to food really, but to dealing with all of their emotional issues by inhaling massive quantities of low nutrient, high calorie junk food. Heh, very few people sooth themselves with salad; I know that I don't. BTW, my treat to myself last night was sushi.😊

However, it's up to the gambling addict to not go into that casino or on that gambling website. Alcoholic? No more trips to your favorite bar or the liquor store. And crackhead, no more crack houses for you. It's hard junk food junkie, but you just can't have any more intimate evenings with a dozen doughnuts and/or a loaded extra large pizza washed down with a liter of soda unless you don't buy them or order those things into your home.

I truly do hope @watchingtvaddict (tee hee, I'm sure that you've got your tv "addiction" under control just like me😇 ) your friend and your relative can get back on track. Maybe your friend needs to have her surgeon check her stomach just to give her some peace of mind.

Take care.

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I think that most people who go for bariatric surgeries are not the kind we would see on the show, but much smaller, though still morbidly obese people.  It doesn't take 600+ pounds to make someone morbidly obese.  An average American woman is 5'4" - morbidly obese is anything over 240 pounds.   An average American man is 5'10" - over 280 is morbidly obese.  And unfortunately, nearly 6% of the population are morbidly obese - that's some 17-18 million people.  Statistics say that there are ~225K bariatric surgeries performed per year now, and we know that many will fail... so I would not be surprised if we indeed have *millions* who have out-eaten their surgeries...

To me the scariest statistics is that more than 2/3 of US adults are overweight and nearly 1/3 are obese, and 1/6 children are obese.  Obese children usually grow into obese adults and it's much harder for them to lose weight vs. those who were slim as kids.  13 million obese schoolchildren - that's SCARY.   When I was in school, we had maybe two kids in my entire elementary school who were 'fat' (though I don't know whether they would have been overweight or obese)... 

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A lot of people do not say that they had weight loss surgery.   

I'm wondering if the non-invasive type is the gastric balloon?   Or if they call the lapband, 'noninvasive'?  

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14 hours ago, CrazyInAlabama said:

A lot of people do not say that they had weight loss surgery.   

I'm wondering if the non-invasive type is the gastric balloon?   Or if they call the lapband, 'noninvasive'?  

Adding another "definition" . . . the lapband is considered "minimally invasive."

According to my extensive (3 seconds) research, non-invasive is defined as "not requiring the introduction of instruments into the body."

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The graphics shown by this local surgeon was of a very small incision being made into the abdomen of someone who had eaten their way through the very invasive type of bariatric surgery where a majority of the stomach was removed. The graphic showed how the non-invasive surgery used a few stiches to tighten the original surgery and restore the first sized dimensions of the much smaller stomach.

No matter how many people need this type of surgery -- thousands, hundreds of thousands or millions -- it is so sad to me that these types of people would keep trying to get a surgical solution to an obvious, at least to me, mental/behavioral issue.

It really makes me respect Dr. Now all the more when he refuses to do this for those patients who request it although I seem to remember him doing it for a young woman who had a balloon surgery done in Mexico where she left it in for two or three years when it should have been removed after six months I think. I think that Dr. Now did this because she was way overdue to have the balloon removed.

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That was Karina from Texas.     She's the one who ordered the huge pizza meal, plus brownies, and ate that with the balloon in her stomach.   

 I surprised more of Dr. Now's patients don't go to Mexico for their surgery, it's super cheap, and no qualifying.    

I still remember Erica from California who had a stomach stapling in her teens, then at  Dr. Now's had Gastric  Sleeve, and revised to Gastric Bypass, and she defeated all three. 

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10 hours ago, CrazyInAlabama said:

 

I still remember Erica from California who had a stomach stapling in her teens, then at  Dr. Now's had Gastric  Sleeve, and revised to Gastric Bypass, and she defeated all three. 

*Victory!*

Sorry, it's early and I haven't had my coffee, yet.

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As to bike seats, the best one I found is the Hobson easy seat. It’s got two cheeks that can be adjusted out pretty wide. They move independently and kind of rock back and forth as you lift each leg. Your weight is on the more hardier part of your butt. 

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Ohh... just discovered a yummy addition to my diet. One of my guilty pleasures is kid's breakfast cereals (like Corn Pops), both for a quick breakfast and a snack. i know that they're pure carbs and sugar and not especially good for me, but sometimes you just need a little treat. One of the YouTubers that I follow for his travel shows introduced me to a brand called Magic Spoon which makes high protein breakfast cereals that are soy and grain free and contain 11gms of protein per service. I figured I'd give them a try and ordered a variety box. For breakfast today I had a service of their fruity cereal and it was just like eating a bowl of Fruit Loops! Not quite as sugary (they use stevia and monkfruit for sweetness) but more than sweet enough and absolutely delicious. 

Sadly, they're only available via mail order and they're not cheap but it's a splurge that I'm more than willing to indulge in. Can't wait to try to chocolate cereal next.

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On 11/21/2020 at 5:20 PM, Quof said:

I like kids' cereals, with unsweetened chocolate almond milk. 

My mom worked in an elementary school cafeteria for a while when I was a kid (not at my school) and would bring home those little half-pint cartons of chocolate milk when they were about to expire; we would pour them on Rice Krispies. 🙂

Anyone else a Dr. Mike fan? He did a video reacting to Casey King on Family by the Ton (that thread's been dormant for several months but I thought folks here might be interested). (Casey is in the comments, too.)

 

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5 hours ago, OoogleEyes said:

I read where there are some new episodes coming! Maybe nect month? Whoo hoo!

I saw on a rerun this week, new season December 30th!! Yes!!

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3 minutes ago, lu1535 said:

I saw on a rerun this week, new season December 30th!! Yes!!

Happy New Year! This is proof positive that 2021 will be a better year!

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I wonder if this is a totally new season, because there were four unaired episodes from last season?      I remember reading that when they shut everything down in March/April that some were still doing their talking heads at home, and I think Dr. Now's office went to remote appointments.   I just hope everyone is safe.      The poundticipants are so high risk, so I hope everyone is OK.    I hope the tele-appointments protected the patients, and  Dr. Now, Cassandra, and the others in the office.  

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Thanks to the Live Chat for Samantha's episode last night, what caught my attention on entering the supermarket this morning was... TASTYKAKES.  I was sorely tempted to buy some and try them, but I was not alone so I've just mentally marked them for my next visit (unless my clean eating actually begins before I get back there).

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Unfortunately, my nice regional grocery store (Publix) always carries Tastykakes.      

Spoiler

Someone asked how much someone can make on the video sites, eating or whatever.   I saw on Reddit that someone said a friend used to do some kind of personalized video things, (Yes, not nice for family viewing), and made up to $10k a day.   Apparently it's through the money transfer sites, so not reported to the IRS.  I'm not very knowledgeable about the process, but apparently if you get enough subscribers, or viewers on things like You tube, etc. you can make money with that too.     

 

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Happy New Year to our wonderful Pounders!  May 2021 bring you joy, happiness and good health.  Onward we go into a new year and a new beginning.  Let the snark flow freely and joyful abundance fill your worlds. 

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Replying to @Mothra from the most recent episode.

 

Im sure there has been, thats what a lot of medically supervised diets or meal plans have done in the past. Basically "only eat x" for so long and the person loses weight. They may be happy with the weight loss but that doesnt always mean they continue with the habits of calorie restriction over the long term to keep the weight off. Because of x reason, something takes priority over the calorie restriction habit.

Now there are people that fall somewhere in the middle, they retain some of the habits learned during the restriction, but go back to a bit of the "normal" habits they had before. 

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On 1/5/2021 at 6:17 PM, sainte-chapelle said:

I am only halfway but she just ordered food after thinking she was having a heart attack.  Bella is unfortunately on her way to being like mom. I hope she escapes the guilt trips and BS.  Is it normal to order food in American  hospitals? Do you guys get choices? Up here you usually get what they serve, it is usually healthy but not tasty. It was very telling that the sister and the mother did not offer to help. She was clearly fishing but they didn’t bite. She likely put them through a lot...like most addicts...and they are done. How do you gain 140 lbs in a matter of weeks ?!?!!

https://ibb.co/M94bb3F
https://ibb.co/m49hWrC
 

This was the menu when I gave birth to my child. The food was ok but not amazing. Very industrial.

 

 

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2 hours ago, ams1001 said:

I used to order the Caesar salad at TGI Friday's with chicken and honey mustard dressing. (I don't like Caesar.)

My mom spent several days in the hospital a few years ago and she did get to choose what she wanted for meals, but it was from a limited menu each day (like two or three options for each part part of the meal). I don't know how typical that is, and I'm sure they make changes for specific patients who have dietary restrictions, but it's not like a restaurant where you can order whatever you like.

Thank you for explaining. I live in Canada and you get your meal based upon what your dietary restrictions may be or if you specifically say you are vegan etc...at least in my Province. Some hospitals have better food than others. My mom actually was hoping for a stay at a specific hospital after surgery due to them having better tasting food 😂

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45 minutes ago, Aw my lahgs said:

https://ibb.co/M94bb3F
https://ibb.co/m49hWrC
 

This was the menu when I gave birth to my child. The food was ok but not amazing. Very industrial.

 

 

Oh wow you get a menu! I have never seen that in a hospital...it might be different in other provinces but I live in Canada. In my experience the hospital food here is not bad. Some hospitals are better than others in terms of cuisine! I remember my crazy neighbor wanted French that so the nurse actually went across the street to a diner and brought her some.

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1 hour ago, sainte-chapelle said:

Oh wow you get a menu! I have never seen that in a hospital...it might be different in other provinces but I live in Canada. In my experience the hospital food here is not bad. Some hospitals are better than others in terms of cuisine! I remember my crazy neighbor wanted French that so the nurse actually went across the street to a diner and brought her some.

Yes, there’s a menu and there are three time slots for breakfast, lunch and dinner where you call a special number and place your order. They get it to you shortly. I can’t complain! I was happy I was able to choose what I wanted. The ice cream was Ben & Jerry’s. I suppose it was similar to Samanthas. She ordered a ton though.

I thought I ordered plenty but several times the nurse in the room would get on me to order more food (because I just gave birth).

 

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1 hour ago, Aw my lahgs said:

Yes, there’s a menu and there are three time slots for breakfast, lunch and dinner where you call a special number and place your order. They get it to you shortly. I can’t complain! I was happy I was able to choose what I wanted. The ice cream was Ben & Jerry’s. I suppose it was similar to Samanthas. She ordered a ton though.

I thought I ordered plenty but several times the nurse in the room would get on me to order more food (because I just gave birth).

 

Oh that is interesting! When I was in hospital food just came when I was able to eat.  I am one of those people that will never get addicted to painkillers because all the morphine did was make me vomit and sleep.  My mom was in with collapsed lungs at the end of March and I wasn’t allowed to visit because of COVID but for some reason she said the food was extra good this time. My friend who had a baby said she received a larger portion of food along with snacks....I compared it to first class vs economy on a flight 😂 

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On 1/7/2021 at 9:01 PM, sainte-chapelle said:

Thank you for explaining. I live in Canada and you get your meal based upon what your dietary restrictions may be or if you specifically say you are vegan etc...at least in my Province. Some hospitals have better food than others. My mom actually was hoping for a stay at a specific hospital after surgery due to them having better tasting food 😂

In the US it depends as well.  I have seen hospitals with decent food, with amazing food, and with food that only loosely could be termed "food".  But in most you can order within your medical restrictions.  The larger the hospital, the more options they usually have.  A small 20-bed rural community hospital won't have a menu, it's whatever the cook made and it would be the same for employees and patients most likely, but an 800-bed huge suburban academic hospital will most likely have a cafeteria or two for employees/visitors, a couple cafes/restaurants on premises and a pretty extensive menu for patients.  

My university hospital had the most amazing beef barley soup...  but literally the only things they made well were that soup, glazed carrots and cheesecake. 🙂  Nothing was terrible, though, as I remember.  I ate lunches there every single day for three years... if nothing looked good, at least I could always count on cheesecake.  It's dairy, so it's healthy! 🙂 

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I am in a large city.  Several of our hospitals offer wine with your meal.  My aunt's 84 year old friend was recently in the hospital to get control of recurring, highly dramatic nosebleeds.  She had his sister call to remind them that he is an alcoholic and will go into withdrawal without wine.  😳. The bad thing is that on a previous stay they gave him wine with breakfast also.  He has now added that to his daily drinking plan. 😬.  He really does drink a lot and cannot understand why others don't day drink. (One glass of wine at lunch and I sleep all afternoon). He is a functioning, maintenance alcoholic. 

My brother was in a hospital in Cleveland that had pretty good food.  They also had many cafeterias you could go to with a variety of choices.  He would get mad that everything was not guaranteed to be organic and that, while they had unsweetened soy milk, it wasn't his preferred brand.  He had a real shock when he ended up in a smaller, local hospital and was fed many questionable meals both in terms of quality and health value.  I kept joking him as to how many things they could add bacon to.  The perfect diet when you're on the cardiology/heart surgery floor. 

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@PrincessPurrsALot  That was karma reminding your brother that a hospital is not a fancy restaurant to cater to his every whim!

My Mom had her knee replacement at an orthopedic specialty hospital - not meant for medical issues or long stays, literally get your joint surgery, spend 1-2-3 days and get out.  The only vegetables in the cafeteria were lettuce and sliced tomato to put on your burger.  The only non-fried options were soup of the day (one per day) and mashed potato.   Same thing on the patient side, plus a few options for sicker patients like broth or hard-boiled eggs (which is what Mom stuck to). 

The most amazing hospital food I ever had was at a tiny IHS hospital  in Arizona.  The chef who worked there was an local Apache man who worked at all kinds of fancy casinos and when he got older he decided to come back home and cook for the hospital.  In 30 days that I was there, I had every lunch and dinner there (free food that I don't have to cook beats having to find a ride to go 110 miles roundtrip to the nearest grocery, buy food and then cook it, plus I was 23 at the time and not much of a cook).  He only once repeated himself (and that was because his taco salad was super popular and people begged him to make it more often) and everything was delicious.  

The worst hospital food was at a tiny community hospital in the middle of Nebraska.  It was also free, and I was still 23, but I only once stopped there, got served that was claimed to be a 'pizza' but looked like a soggy mess and smelled worse than it looked.   I never once came back...  That was actually what got me to cook meat for the first time in my life (ground beef for enchiladas using canned enchilada sauce).  For some reason, even though I have been cooking fish in every way possible since I was 10 or 11, I was afraid to touch meat or poultry up until that point... 

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Aww, @JunkFoodTV 🙂 

I kept thinking around New Year that I should check whether there is a new season, but I was visiting Mom and working from Nebraska for a month (one upside of being remote, I don't have to leave right after the holidays!)... so I had little to no time for TV or online anyway after work.   But I am super happy the show is back - with 7 pounds gained in this one month, I can give poundticipants a run for their money as far as fast gain goes!   Though in my case it was all 100% homemade, not fast food.  A lot of holiday cookies, though, as we couldn't give them out as much as we usually do...  normally I would pack boxes for my friends, my Mom for hers, plus family, neighbors, coworkers... this time it was just neighbors.  

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Seven pound gain is nothing compared to people like Samantha.   However, it's good to get back on track before seven becomes 27.  You'll get the seven off.  

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41 minutes ago, millie1022 said:

I got an Apple Watch for that very reason. I've gotten "lt looks like you've had a hard fall" notifications when I'm sitting in a chair reading. I've had no notification at all when I've had a spectacular fall, and I've had notifications three days after I fell. But it's nice to be able to make a call to the EMTs if I need it. 

I have a phone strapped to me when I'm alone. My  "I've fallen and can't get up" phone. I won't need 8 firemen to carry me out of the house. At least one hot one will do.

 

There is no shame in making sure you get help if you need it.

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3 hours ago, auntjess said:

Ha ha! Are you getting ads for them everywhere now?  That happened to me when I did fat beauty parlor chairs, and fat funerals.

Thankfully I haven't googled any of that, but I've been getting ads for It's A 10 brand hair care products (something I actually do use, but looked up a particular product one day) for at least two weeks now. Speaking of ads, I was listening to a podcast and they played ads for Discovery+ no less than four times (the episode was an hour long). Somewhere in the middle they played the same ad twice in a row (something they have a habit of doing on this particular show in general for some reason), then at the end they played that same ad again followed by a different ad for Discovery+. 

Between that and the box that sits on my screen while I'm watching they are just ensuring that I will never get Discovery+.

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5 minutes ago, ams1001 said:

Thankfully I haven't googled any of that, but I've been getting ads for It's A 10 brand hair care products (something I actually do use, but looked up a particular product one day) for at least two weeks now. Speaking of ads, I was listening to a podcast and they played ads for Discovery+ no less than four times (the episode was an hour long). Somewhere in the middle they played the same ad twice in a row (something they have a habit of doing on this particular show in general for some reason), then at the end they played that same ad again followed by a different ad for Discovery+. 

Between that and the box that sits on my screen while I'm watching they are just ensuring that I will never get Discovery+.

I'm not doing Discovery+. They have been so pushy and annoying.

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14 minutes ago, ams1001 said:

Between that and the box that sits on my screen while I'm watching they are just ensuring that I will never get Discovery+.

I do feel cheated that they're trying to make more money, over and above what I pay for them on cable.

 

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18 minutes ago, auntjess said:

I do feel cheated that they're trying to make more money, over and above what I pay for them on cable.

Yeah, my cable bill just jumped up again, too.

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I saw several negative comments around here, I think mostly on episode threads, about Discovery+. I totally get that. I felt that way too, and the hard sell for it on every. dang, show, is annoying AF.

But then, I did two things. (1) I dumped cable TV and subscribed to YouTube TV instead, which saved me like $70 a month and gave me access to most of the channels I watched on cable TV (but not the DIY network, and not Discovery Life which although it's repeats often had shows I liked seeing again). (2) switched to Verizon for my mobile phone service, and that came with a complimentary year of Discovery+ and a complimentary year of DIsney+, Hulu and I think ESPN+. Yep. So I've got Discovery+ now. Free for a year, and it's helping to supplement some of the stuff I lost access to when I cut the cable TV cord.

I will say, it seems to have a deep bench of old shows, and it's got more to offer than just the TLC lineup of weirdness and icky people. There's a lot of DIY network stuff. I had a marvelous binge-watch of Salvage Dawgs the other night, and have added several DIY shows to. my watchlist. Along with Dr. Pimple Popper. I don't hate everything on TLC, lol. 

And I'll say, ya'll, I tried to start watching M600PL again this evening. Starting with Samantha's story, set right here in Denver. And - I just can't with this show anymore. Maybe another time, but I just can't bear watching - or listening to - another supermorbidly obese person. I've really enjoyed your witty and fabulous companionship during live chats, so maybe I'll show up for one of those. But for now I've noped out of watching any more episodes of this show unless I have adult supervision, i.e., my fellow Pounders during a live chat. 

Peace to all.

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