Ratings and Scheduling: Hail to the Gods

[La Dee Da]

Crossover viewing question for Canadian viewers: As I don’t think any of the shows are on the main CTV channels (and I don’t get the CW channels), is the schedule effectively Flash on Netflix (whenever the new show is added to the site), Arrow on Space (Regular Monday schedule) and Supergirl on Showtime or on demand (probably a week-ish after it is shown in the US)?

[statsgirl]

Excellent point.  As I don't get either the CW or Netflix, I won't be seeing the Flash episode.

On my way to ask CTV...

[Starfish35]

Preliminary ratings for Elseworlds Part 1 (source):

[Angel12d]

Wait. What?! 

Surely that's gonna rise otherwise YIKES (she says when she didn't even watch 😬😂).

[Chaser]

Ouch. 

[apinknightmare]

Its better than what Supergirl usually gets, so that’s a win I guess. 

[thegirlsleuth]

I remember someone pointing out that the crossover usually get's the same ratings as the highest rated show, which is the Flash.  I think that's the ratings the Flash has been getting recently so I'm not completely surprised at those ratings.  

[Chaser]

I would like it better if they axed the big crossover and created smaller crossovers throughout the season. 

[Morrigan2575]

5 minutes ago, thegirlsleuth said:

I remember someone pointing out that the crossover usually get's the same ratings as the highest rated show, which is the Flash.  I think that's the ratings the Flash has been getting recently so I'm not completely surprised at those ratings.  

I think it was Quarks last season and, yeah it's pretty much the pattern, although it usually hits Flash's high range.  Of course this season, Flash's range is pretty much 0.6-0.7 so it's a bit low, especially since Flash's 100th did get a 0.7 last week.

Personally, i think their return on investment for these big crossover events has dropped to the point that it's not really worth it but, I don't run CW/WB.

[Chaser]

Does anyone know if it trended last night?

[way2interested]

4 minutes ago, Chaser said:

Does anyone know if it trended last night?

I think for a hot second (the Smallville part) but then dropped out of the top trends.

[apinknightmare]

I have my trends set to US and it was in my top ten for most of the night - albeit toward the bottom, until the West Coast airing.

[Starfish35]

Per Spotted Ratings, the ratings for last season’s crossover were:

• Supergirl (Part 1): 0.877, 2.713 million.
• Arrow (Part 2): 0.852, 2.521 million.
• The Flash (Part 3): 0.963, 2.815 million.
• Legends (Part 4): 0.914, 2.797 million.

And yes, that’s pretty close to what Flash was doing during the fall last year. 

[Starfish35]

Unrounded preliminary numbers (source)

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The Flash special ..................... 0.637 ... (0.642 ... 0.632)
Charmed .................................. 0.308 ... (0.312 ... 0.303)

[Featherhat]

I'm sure it will do very well on apps, Live+7, other streaming etc but the raw numbers don't surprise me. This far in people either watch the Arrowverse or they don't and a "big kooky spectacle" is only going to go so far. Especially as even people who only watch one complain about having to learn/catch up with what's going on with the others. New viewers interested in Batwoman? Not yet it seems and TH's Supes has been on Supergirl a handful of times.

Edited December 10, 2018 by Featherhat

[olicityfan25]

4 hours ago, way2interested said:

I think for a hot second (the Smallville part) but then dropped out of the top trends.

Felicity trended way more for a non crossover episode.

[Primal Slayer]

This is also on a totally different night which probably played a big role.

[Starfish35]

Part 1 adjusted up to 0.7 (source):

[Morrigan2575]

that lines it up with the 100th episode.

[lemotomato]

I’m surprised it adjust up. The unrounded numbers weren’t really borderline.

[Starfish35]

Still no Monday ratings, but here are the unrounded finals for last week (link):

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Here were the un-rounded FINALS for the CW shows last week (Dec. 3-9):

The Flash ..................................... 0.688
The Flash special (Sunday) ......... 0.665 [Elseworlds Part 1]
Supernatural ................................ 0.490
Arrow .................................... 0.458
Legacies ...................................... 0.390
Riverdale ..................................... 0.388
Legends of Tomorrow .................. 0.313
Black Lightning ............................ 0.303
Charmed ...................................... 0.298
All American ................................. 0.243
Dynasty ........................................ 0.150
Crazy Ex-Girlfriend ...................... 0.119

Edited December 11, 2018 by Starfish35

[BkWurm1]

Is it weird that Monday’s ratings aren’t up?  

[Starfish35]

Showbuzz Daily finally posted an announcement that they should be out in about an hour from now.  Finals should be posted in about four hours.

ETA: (link)

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Broadcast primetime fast affiliate-based nationals for Monday 12.10.2018 are now expected around 1:30 pm PT.

Cable and broadcast live+same day nationals for Monday 12.10.2018 are now expected around 4:30 pm PT.

Edited December 11, 2018 by Starfish35

[Soulfire]

[KenyaJ]

Who was expecting that, when compared to the ratings for Night 1.

I'm going to attribute it to Felicity showing up. IDC, IDC. I guess Batwoman could've been a draw too. LOL.

Edited December 11, 2018 by KenyaJ

[Whatever88]

43 minutes ago, KenyaJ said:

Who was expecting that, when compared to the ratings for Night 1.

I'm going to attribute it to Felicity showing up. IDC, IDC. I guess Batwoman could've been a draw too. LOL.

 

I don't think it has anything to do with Felicity to be honest ! Flash episode was shown Sunday which is a much more competitive day than Monday. 

However Batwoman introduction might have been a draw.

Edited December 11, 2018 by Whatever88

[Primal Slayer]

Pretty much confirmed what I thought, Sunday is just a tough night. I wonder if CW will change gears next year and have it airing during the main week instead of starting on Sunday  

[Mellowyellow]

 So should tonight be higher?

I keep thinking they got 1s last year or was it below 1?

[Starfish35]

Only The Flash segment got 1.0 last year - everything else got 0.9.

[KenyaJ]

My bad. Apparently, this was the real reason for the higher ratings.

Ordinarily, I pay Carina no attention at all. But this got RT into my timeline and it's worth all the cackles.

[Mellowyellow]

2 minutes ago, KenyaJ said:

My bad. Apparently, this was the real reason for the higher ratings.

Ordinarily, I pay Carina no attention at all. But this got RT into my timeline and it's worth all the cackles.

I know they're joking but considering the "performance" and the nepotism behind it, it was probably best to let this one fade into obscurity rather than draw attention to it.

[apinknightmare]

That seems like something better kept to texts, but I would expect nothing less from Carina.

Edited December 11, 2018 by apinknightmare

[Mary0360]

 

I know the whole ratings don't explain why people watch thing yada yada But I'm going to enjoy this.

[Starfish35]

Unrounded preliminary numbers (link)

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Arrow ............................................... 0.747 ... (0.760 ... 0.735)
Legends of Tomorrow ...................... 0.417 ... (0.446 ... 0.387)

[Starfish35]

CW Live+7 Ratings for the week of November 26 - December 2 (Programming Insider):

• The Flash - 1.22, 3.225 million.
• Riverdale - 0.89, 2.280 million.
• Supernatural - 0.75, 2.390 million.
• Arrow - 0.73, 2.117 million. (#707 - The Slabside Redemption)
• Supergirl - 0.71, 2.262 million.
• Charmed - 0.62, 1.780 million.
• Legends of Tomorrow - 0.62, 1.763 million.
• Black Lightning - 0.58, 1.692 million.
• Legacies - 0.57, 1.738 million.
• All American - 0.40, 1.176 million.
• Dynasty - 0.26*, 0.895 million.
• Crazy Ex-Girlfriend - 0.26, 0.676 million.

*Not on Top 40 report.

[Starfish35]

Preliminary ratings for Elseworlds Part 3 (source):

[Starfish35]

Unrounded preliminary ratings for last night (link):

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Supergirl ............................ 0.744 ... (0.741 ... 0.747)
Black Lightning .................. 0.372 ... (0.370 ... 0.373)

[BkWurm1]

So unless Supergirl gets a bounce, the Arrow portion pulled in the best ratings but Supergirl got the most viewers?  Am I reading the right?   

[Morrigan2575]

Supergirl got more overall viewers but Arrow got more viewers in the 18-49 Demo.

[Starfish35]

Yes, but both Sunday and Monday adjusted up, so last night might too.

Also, Arrow getting better ratings than Supergirl in the demo while having less overall viewers has been par for the course this season, actually.

Edited December 12, 2018 by Starfish35

[Morrigan2575]

7 minutes ago, Starfish35 said:

Yes, but both Sunday and Monday adjusted up, so last night might too.

Also, Arrow getting better ratings than Supergirl in the demo while having less overall viewers has been par for the course this season, actually.

Which I'm guessing is because Supergirl (and Flash) tend to draw in a younger (12-17) audience

[Starfish35]

3 minutes ago, Morrigan2575 said:

Which I'm guessing is because Supergirl (and Flash) tend to draw in a younger (12-17) audience

Yes, that would be my guess too.

[Starfish35]

Part 3 did adjust up (link):

[Morrigan2575]

Maybe next year they'll skip Sunday night

[BkWurm1]

Sunday is still new.  I can't see them leaving it out unless there's no Arrowverse show on Sunday.   

[quarks]

Hark the CW accountants sing -

"We don't care about ratings!

We get revenues from other places

So for now, all is aces!

If digital sales suddenly die,

then sure, prepare to say goodbye -

We need those international licenses too,

Why we love those tweets from you.

But as far as ratings go -

We're more worried about Oliver's bow."

[Morrigan2575]

Thanks @quarks it's past my bedtime and now I've got that damn song stuck in my head 😛

[BkWurm1]

7 hours ago, cwserialclub said:

Guys, whats yours favorite momment at elseworlds crossover? As for me it is

Oliver and Barry vs Merly and Thawne

Taking to the Relationship thread.  

[Velocity23]

Seems like Arrow had the highest rated episode of the crossover 

[Starfish35]

CW Live+7 Ratings for the week of December 3-9 (Programming Insider)

• The Flash (S) - 1.34, 3.508 million [Elseworlds Part 1].
• The Flash - 1.30, 3.233 million.
• Riverdale - 0.85, 2.136 million.
• Arrow - 0.81, 2.236 million. (#708 - Unmasked)
• Supernatural - 0.80, 2.368 million.
• Legends of Tomorrow - 0.63, 1.782 million.
• Legacies - 0.61*, 1.826 million.
• Charmed - 0.57, 1.668 million.
• Black Lightning - 0.56, 1.567 million.
• All American - 0.36*, 1.063 million.
• Dynasty - 0.22*, 0.814 million.
• Crazy Ex-Girlfriend - 0.19, 0.542 million.

*Not on top 40 report. 

I’m not sure when the report for December 10-16 will be out, due to the holidays, but I’ll keep an eye out for it.

Edited December 19, 2018 by Starfish35