statsgirl March 11, 2015 Share March 11, 2015 I would predict that those who love the idea of Ra's and comic books will be excited, and those who are unhappy with writing for the plot this season won't as much. It will be interesting to see which group is greater. Does anyone know how last week's repeat episode did? I wonder how tonight's Uprising will compare to when the episode first aired. Link to comment
wonderwall March 11, 2015 Share March 11, 2015 Episode 15 didn't leave people wanting for more like the midseason finale did. I expect numbers to drop after the terrible bundle of episodes we were subjected to after episode 10. Link to comment
apinknightmare March 11, 2015 Share March 11, 2015 (edited) This is actually the first hiatus since I've been watching where I wish it was longer. I'm reasonably sure I'll still tune in next week, but this is the first time since I've started watching the show that I've considered skipping. Seems like this next stretch might be easier to take with some episodes banked, mainly because I'm not looking forward to more continued idiocy. So I'm curious what the ratings will be for 3x16 as well-I wonder if more people are feeling unenthused like I am. Edited March 11, 2015 by apinknightmare 9 Link to comment
SonofaBiscuit March 11, 2015 Share March 11, 2015 I'm wondering if DST will affect Arrow's ratings at all. People always like to use that as an excuse for why ratings have dropped, anyway. I'm at the point with Arrow where I just don't care much about the show at the moment, I haven't watched most of the episodes after Christmas, and I will continue to not watch since I won't be home on Wed. nights. The problem is that I'm becoming less and less interested as I marathon the shows on my DVR. I had the last three episodes of 12 Monkeys on there, and those were really entertaining. I've got several episodes of The Americans waiting, a few episodes of Black Sails, episodes of The 100, episodes of The Musketeers, etc. All of these shows are far more entertaining than Arrow and take priority at this point. Link to comment
tv echo March 11, 2015 Share March 11, 2015 When I got my new TV Guide in the mail (double issue) and saw that Arrow was returning with a new episode on March 18, I was surprised to discover that I felt zero enthusiasm. 3 Link to comment
statsgirl March 11, 2015 Share March 11, 2015 I have no enthusiasm for the next episode at all, with Oliver considering the offer and Felicity sleeping with Ray, but I feel like I want to skip to the back of the book and read the ending to find out if it's worth sticking around for the middle. 10 Link to comment
Password March 11, 2015 Share March 11, 2015 Hmm if season 3 was a book I would've flailed it against a wall when lunge 2.0 happened. Link to comment
Genki March 11, 2015 Share March 11, 2015 (edited) I have no enthusiasm for the next episode at all, with Oliver considering the offer and Felicity sleeping with Ray, but I feel like I want to skip to the back of the book and read the ending to find out if it's worth sticking around for the middle. Banking up the episodes is easier than expected, especially with spoilers be so uninspiring and MG being such a troll. I think binge watching does make the show more enjoyable when the writing is subpar and annoying characters are featured too much. I'm also totally spoiled so I can see when it might be worth watching week to week again. Edited March 11, 2015 by Genki Link to comment
Starfish35 March 11, 2015 Share March 11, 2015 Almost all of last night's shows were down so I wouldn't be surprised if both Arrow and Flash take a bit of a hit due to DST. 1 Link to comment
Starfish35 March 19, 2015 Share March 19, 2015 Just realized that, because of Empire's two-hour finale tonight, Arrow is competing against the season's biggest hit. Not sure how much of a crossover audience there is, but it will be interesting to see the ratings tomorrow. Link to comment
BkWurm1 March 19, 2015 Share March 19, 2015 Sigh. I was rooting for a drop in the ratings to express my displeasure in what we'd seen but I enjoyed this episode so much and I'm afraid that they will get less than stellar ratings and then tell themselves they shouldn't write wonderful episodes like this one. So now I'm worried about the likely drop in numbers due to the hiatus and the warmer weather and the Daylight savings issues. 2 Link to comment
apinknightmare March 19, 2015 Share March 19, 2015 Sigh. I was rooting for a drop in the ratings to express my displeasure in what we'd seen but I enjoyed this episode so much and I'm afraid that they will get less than stellar ratings and then tell themselves they shouldn't write wonderful episodes like this one. So now I'm worried about the likely drop in numbers due to the hiatus and the warmer weather and the Daylight savings issues. Wouldn't they be expecting that though? And do ratings for individual eps really matter that much? Like, if the previous episode was poo and no one tuned into this one, would they really consider this episode at fault for the drop? 1 Link to comment
Angel12d March 19, 2015 Share March 19, 2015 I really don't think they care about ratings. They've got s4 in the bag. It doesn't matter. Link to comment
BkWurm1 March 19, 2015 Share March 19, 2015 Wouldn't they be expecting that though? And do ratings for individual eps really matter that much? Like, if the previous episode was poo and no one tuned into this one, would they really consider this episode at fault for the drop? I just don't know so I worry. They won't worry about ratings renewal wise but who knows how they use it as a gauge of good or bad. Link to comment
wonderwall March 19, 2015 Share March 19, 2015 They're up against Empire, Olicity wasn't promoted at all, we just got back from a 3 week hiatus, the last episode wasn't all that great... I think we're good. 1 Link to comment
Artsda March 19, 2015 Share March 19, 2015 They should use it as a tool to gauge good or bad overall, if it was consistently good like Empire then people would choose to watch Arrow live. Empire proves what good word of mouth can do for a show. Viewers choose it over other shows, but they've made this Arrow season so bad there's no way I'd choose Arrow live over Empire. 1 Link to comment
KenyaJ March 19, 2015 Share March 19, 2015 Not gonna lie. I watched Empire live. It was a pretty easy choice. Empire has been consistently entertaining and fun all season and Arrow hasn't. Also Empire is a social media event; It seemed like everyone on my very diverse Twitter TL was tweeting about it. I'm not sure how much crossover there is between the Arrow and Empire audiences, so there may not be much effect on Arrow's ratings. I'm watching the episode now on my DVR, but I still haven't watched 315 and have no desire to. Perhaps that wasn't the best episode to leave off on before a three week break. 1 Link to comment
kismet March 19, 2015 Share March 19, 2015 (edited) I have to work tonight, which kinda sucks. So I couldn't watch either live, but I could record one. Im not gonna lie, I really really wanted to record Emprie, but at last minute I chose Arrow. Usually I would have recorded Arrow because I want to see it as soon as able. However, this week I optd to record it so I wouldn't contribute to the online viewing ratings. I don't have a nielsen box so it doesn't really matter what I watch live. Its sad when your strategically trying to not bring up the ratings/views just to send a message to the EPs. Not that Empire needs it, but I will gladly stream that finale and boost their ratings there. Empire is just amazing! Edited March 19, 2015 by kismet Link to comment
tv echo March 19, 2015 Share March 19, 2015 (edited) People who watch Arrow and don't follow spoilers are just going to make their decision whether to watch or not based on previously aired episodes. If ratings are down, it'll be a combination of the hiatus, Empire competition, and dissatisfaction with previous weeks' Arrow episodes (imo). Edited March 19, 2015 by tv echo 2 Link to comment
Velocity23 March 19, 2015 Share March 19, 2015 (edited) also DST. The 8 PM hour gets impacted the most. Also its March Madness time! Edited March 19, 2015 by Velocity23 Link to comment
Velocity23 March 19, 2015 Share March 19, 2015 Empire destroyed everything. Based on the top 25 markets it might do 6.2-6.5 at 8 PM, 7-7.2 at 9 PM Link to comment
apinknightmare March 19, 2015 Share March 19, 2015 I'm not surprised - it's been trending forever on Twitter. The gifs I've seen on Tumblr make me want to watch it. This does too, haha. To keep it on subject - hopefully Arrow's ratings aren't down too much, although if they are I suspect this might be the beginning of an upward trend if the communication and plot-needed stupidity are finally coming to an end. Link to comment
Morrigan2575 March 19, 2015 Share March 19, 2015 (edited) Empire destroyed everything. Based on the top 25 markets it might do 6.2-6.5 at 8 PM, 7-7.2 at 9 PM Bastards! It killed my SPN ratings last night. Edited March 19, 2015 by Morrigan2575 Link to comment
tv echo March 19, 2015 Share March 19, 2015 Early overnight ratings... Ratings News - 19th March 2015Posted by DarkUFO at Thursday, March 19, 2015 http://www.spoilertv.com/2015/03/ratings-news-19th-march-2015.html Link to comment
Morrigan2575 March 19, 2015 Share March 19, 2015 (edited) Overnights: 0.8 18-49A 2.37 Million viewers Finals may adjust up, they seem to do that rather often. Edited March 19, 2015 by Morrigan2575 Link to comment
wonderwall March 19, 2015 Share March 19, 2015 Wow, I think that's pretty good because Empire literally blew everything and everyone out of the water! HOLY CRAP a 6.0 and a 6.8??? JFC Link to comment
Morrigan2575 March 19, 2015 Share March 19, 2015 (edited) Wow, I think that's pretty good because Empire literally blew everything and everyone out of the water! HOLY CRAP a 6.0 and a 6.8??? JFC I joked about SPN but I don't think there's much overlap between Arrow and Empire as far as viewers go. Arrow skews young male...Supernatural is more evenly split between male/female viewers. Arrow is pretty much on par with it's year ago ratings (0.8/2.42), which suggests Empire had nothing to do with the ratings. Edited March 19, 2015 by Morrigan2575 1 Link to comment
tv echo March 19, 2015 Share March 19, 2015 (edited) Maybe some fans were turned off by 3x15 - Ra's picking Oliver as his heir is arguably nonsensical and/or the Raylicity sex - or as the culmination of the past several episodes? Edited March 19, 2015 by tv echo 2 Link to comment
wonderwall March 19, 2015 Share March 19, 2015 I joked about SPN but I don't think there's much overlap between Arrow and Empire as far as viewers go. Arrow skews young male...Supernatural is more evenly split between male/female viewers. Arrow is pretty much on par with it's year ago ratings (0.8/2.42), which suggests Empire had nothing to do with the ratings. Hm, you may be right. I hope it adjusts up because the show needs to know that this is what the viewers wanted and not the crap we've been fed since episode 10. Link to comment
JJ928 March 19, 2015 Share March 19, 2015 I know I watched Empire live because the Arrow promos did nothing for me, but the episode ended up being pretty good. My timeline on twitter was all Empire (I follow mostly Arrow/O/F fans), I know that's not much but I do think Empire had some affect on Arrow. Also, hiatus always hurts CW, Flash was down too. I think you're right & they could adjust up, if not they can make up for it next week w/Suicide Squad. Link to comment
Morrigan2575 March 19, 2015 Share March 19, 2015 I know I watched Empire live because the Arrow promos did nothing for me, but the episode ended up being pretty good. My timeline on twitter was all Empire (I follow mostly Arrow/O/F fans), I know that's not much but I do think Empire had some affect on Arrow. Also, hiatus always hurts CW, Flash was down too. I think you're right & they could adjust up, if not they can make up for it next week w/Suicide Squad. Oh no doubt there's some overlap, i just don't think there's a large overlap. 1 Link to comment
Starfish35 March 19, 2015 Share March 19, 2015 (edited) The Flash also dropped three tenths in the demo in the initial overnights, but was adjusted up a tenth in the finals. Arrow likely will be too - they usually are. So....to me it's hard to say that these numbers mean anything in particular. They might, or they might not. The first episode after a hiatus (and coming out of a not particularly well received episode), the first episode after DST, competing with the massive Empire finale....all of it could have had some impact. Edited March 19, 2015 by Starfish35 Link to comment
Velocity23 March 19, 2015 Share March 19, 2015 Arrow adjusted up to a 0.9, SPN down to 0.6 according to Showbuzz daily http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/showbuzzdailys-top-25-wednesday-cable-originals-3-18-2015.html Link to comment
wonderwall March 19, 2015 Share March 19, 2015 Yeessssssssssssssss!!! :D It held up well regardless of DST and Empire and the hiatus! Seriously though, the odds were stacked up against the show. Link to comment
statsgirl March 19, 2015 Share March 19, 2015 That's kind of impressive, when you think of the ratings for the repeats of the past two weeks, which got 0.4 and 0.3 ratings and 1.4 and 1.1 million viewers respectively (i.e. less than half the initial audience watched the repeats). Link to comment
quarks March 24, 2015 Share March 24, 2015 (edited) I really don't think they care about ratings. They've got s4 in the bag. It doesn't matter. I don't think they don't particularly care about ratings in March and April. They do care about ratings in May - those ratings, along with February/November ratings, will help determine how much the CW will be willing to pay per episode next season. CBS continues to state that CW shows (including Arrow) make more money in post views than in live views, so it's possible that the WB might take that funding into consideration when setting Arrow's budget for next season, but I don't know how likely that is. (I also still don't have any numbers breakdown per show from CBS - just the repeated statement that CW shows earn more in post-views. How much I don't know.) Edited March 24, 2015 by quarks 1 Link to comment
Velocity23 March 26, 2015 Share March 26, 2015 (edited) Arrow rose to 1.0 & 2.77 mil viewers Edited March 26, 2015 by Velocity23 Link to comment
BkWurm1 March 27, 2015 Share March 27, 2015 I want to credit good word of mouth about last week but it's never just one thing. 1 Link to comment
strikera0 March 27, 2015 Share March 27, 2015 (edited) Last night's final ratings: 1.0 and 2.86 million viewers. http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2015/03/26/wednesday-final-ratings-survivor-the-middle-the-goldbergs-modern-family-criminal-minds-adjusted-up/379833/ Edited March 27, 2015 by strikera0 Link to comment
catrox14 March 27, 2015 Share March 27, 2015 Thanks to Velocity23 for posting the images of the demos. I borrowed /stole them for the SPN thread. Link to comment
writersblock51 April 2, 2015 Share April 2, 2015 Arrow's ratings went down - maybe they will be adjusted up? http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2015/04/02/tv-ratings-wednesday-black-ish-law-order-svu-chicago-p-d-rise-arrow-nashville-supernatural-down/383423/ 20% drop as of now, from last week. Ouch. Link to comment
Morrigan2575 April 2, 2015 Share April 2, 2015 Big drop in the over nights although it could adjust up. http://www.spoilertv.com/2015/04/ratings-news-2nd-april-2015.html?m=1 0.8 18-49A and 2.36 million viewer. Link to comment
Chaser April 2, 2015 Share April 2, 2015 Word of mouth on this episode was not great. I 'watched' it thru twitter and then deleted it off of my DVR. Maybe others did the same? Link to comment
pivot April 2, 2015 Share April 2, 2015 The only thing that will fix this clusterfuck of a show is falling ratings. 7 Link to comment
AyChihuahua April 2, 2015 Share April 2, 2015 I WANT the ratings in the crapper. I want them lower than The 100, which is actually a great show. Mostly not because I'm hateful, but because that's the only thing that will make them care enough to fix it...they should start by firing Guggie. 3 Link to comment
statsgirl April 2, 2015 Share April 2, 2015 It started out .8 last week too and then went up. People who like Laurel/BC are saying the ratings are the best this year they've ever been, which is sort of true but also not. I think Guggenheim is like Christopher Chulack was on ER -- good at writing individual episodes (Chulack is a director I think) but bad at steering the ship. I'm beginning to think the same about AK over on The Flash. Berlanti has spread his people too thin. 2 Link to comment
tv echo April 2, 2015 Share April 2, 2015 The general increase in ratings caused by last fall's Arrow/Flash cross-over episodes seems to be dissipating. Link to comment
Morrigan2575 April 2, 2015 Share April 2, 2015 (edited) It started out .8 last week too and then went up. People who like Laurel/BC are saying the ratings are the best this year they've ever been, which is sort of true but also not. I think Guggenheim is like Christopher Chulack was on ER -- good at writing individual episodes (Chulack is a director I think) but bad at steering the ship. I'm beginning to think the same about AK over on The Flash. Berlanti has spread his people too thin. no it didn't, last week it scored a 1.0 in the overnights and held steady in the finals.http://www.tvmediainsights.com/forum/topic/wednesday-32515-4/ Now, if you're talking 3/18 then it had a 0.8 in the overnights and adjusted up to a 0.9 in the finals. Which could very well happen again this week. Edited April 2, 2015 by Morrigan2575 Link to comment
strikera0 April 2, 2015 Share April 2, 2015 (edited) Does anyone know why the CW moved Supernatural to Wednesday? If I remember correctly, it had better ratings on Tuesday. As for Arrow, I would like to think that the poor run of episodes is finally starting to catch up with them, but it could be just the CW's annual ratings slump in spring. Edited April 2, 2015 by strikera0 1 Link to comment
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