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7 hours ago, Joan of Argh said:

Find something already!!!!!!

They have found lots of something.   That if they did a REAL ARCHEOLOGICAL DIG instead of just digging holes with large equipment would tell the world what life was like on Oak Island in the colonial period.    If they stop saying everything is TREASURE!!!!!!! and just went, hmmmm, wonder why we found this sail needle here?   Or who would have worn an iron cross like that?   

Remember when they found the square room in the ground?    THEY said it was proof that treasure was there and because it was empty meant someone moved the treasure.     said it was a freaking root cellar.   But whose root cellar?   What kind of vegetables would have been stored there?    What would they tell us about the diet of the colonists?   

Heck finding the L shaped structure and the possible connection to the French military being there would be awesome to explore.   Why Oak Island?   Last stand?   Only place left?   Regrouping to attack the English?   WHYYYYYY????   Instead we get "they were hiding treasure fro the English."

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12 hours ago, Joan of Argh said:

I used to think that Marty's other show with Kevin Dykstra was ridiculous but Curse of oak Island is quickly going in that direction.

I guess you mean Curse of Civil War Gold.  Clearly Marty has learned the value of hokum treasure hunt TV shows.

Think we'll ever hear Rick say:  "Sorry little brother, I guess I never should have dragged you into this"?

"Are you kidding me, big brother?  We've made more from this TV show than we ever could from some imagined treasure.  And it's great free advertising for my other businesses.  This was my plan all along.  You didn't really think I'd buy into one of your crazy schemes, did you? I'm leaving my Oak Island property to my son Alex, by the way".

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I don't think the "rock path" is much of a mystery. To get from one island to the other they built a stone path. I doubt it was for a boat ramp. They found the slipway in Smith's Cove. It's not like they need one on every side.

I never bought into the theory that a ship was sunk in the swamp. That would be wasting the valuable lumber. 

 

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On 2/16/2020 at 11:41 AM, TexasTiffany said:

I don't think the "rock path" is much of a mystery. To get from one island to the other they built a stone path. I doubt it was for a boat ramp. They found the slipway in Smith's Cove. It's not like they need one on every side.

I never bought into the theory that a ship was sunk in the swamp. That would be wasting the valuable lumber. 

 

Yes I think your explanation for the "rock path" sounds logical... They keep looking for some big pie in the sky reason for everything when it's probably just something practical like a path.

Good point on the lumber as well, Ive read books about early pioneers and they used every stick of wood they could lay their hands on to build shelter... Some traveled to their homestead and used the wood from the covered wagon to get a roof over their heads before winter, much quicker than harvesting trees and starting from scratch with everything.... No way would they waste all that wood in a swamp.

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What did we learn last night kids?   

That there is a reason that archeologists go slowly with tiny tools.   Because the old stuff is fragile.   If you go rampaging around with heavy equipment you might break the very stuff you are trying to study.   

On the Drilling Down, poor Shatner.   He was all "you folks are nuts" but had to keep a straight face.   Especially when Mr. Bobby Dazzler was talking.     They were all "it's never been about finding gold it was about the who what where when and how?"   Oh bullshit.   It's always been about finding treasure.   The who is only concocting stories about what the treasure might be.  

They have a perfectly plausible explanation for literally everything on Oak Island after the visit to Lewisburg.   It was a French military post.   They built it exactly like Lewisburg because that's how they built military posts.   Not because "oh well that's what we know and we have to hide TREASURE here."   But that's the plans for a military post.   Militaries going back all the way to the Roman Legions have specific ways of building posts.  They do it every single time.   

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7 hours ago, merylinkid said:

They have a perfectly plausible explanation for literally everything on Oak Island after the visit to Lewisburg.   It was a French military post.   They built it exactly like Lewisburg because that's how they built military posts. 

Those old wooden construction that they were tearing up in the cove reminded me of fortifications for riflemen to take cover in and shoot from.  It was odd there was nothing fastening the logs together, I'm not knowledgeable about old building techniques.

The "tunnel" wood that they dug up near the money pit didn't look that old to me, so I would guess it was from searchers rather than depositors.  Amazing all the old stuff they dig up on that island.

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11 hours ago, merylinkid said:

What did we learn last night kids?   

That there is a reason that archeologists go slowly with tiny tools.   Because the old stuff is fragile.   If you go rampaging around with heavy equipment you might break the very stuff you are trying to study.   

 

exactly and Rick loves to sit there episode after episode saying how they will proceed with the utmost of caution and all due diligence and proper protocols will be in place to insure a detailed archeological record is kept.... blah, blah, blah...

Rick loves to sound like a professor and never met a LONG word that he didn't love.. he drives me nuts...

That poor little island... heavy equipment and nitwits smashing everything and drilling everywhere... it's like swiss cheese.

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So this morning while walking the mall, hubby and I were discussing OI.  How's this for a possibility:

Knights Templar grabbed all the treasure that has been talked about for years on the show.  They wanted to hide it, so they found Oak Island and the island immediately adjacent to it. 

The KTs were connected to the masons, and had mad building skills.  So a bunch of them went to OI and - in preparation for placing the treasure in a booby-trapped safe area - built the main vertical shaft and the water "box drains" that would flood the shaft if it were entered by someone who didn't know how to stop the flooding.  (A good description of everyone who has searched for treasure on the island.)

Just as they were preparing to actually place the treasure at the bottom of the vertical shaft (possibly in the vault that's supposed to be there), pirates landed on the island.  They overpowered the KTs and loaded the treasure AND the remaining KTs on the pirate ship.  

The pirates then burned and SANK the KTs' ship and closed off the space between the two islands to create the swamp.  They took the KTs out to sea and dumped them there, then sailed off with the treasure.

Things this would explain:

  • Why no actual treasure has been found - just the kind of stuff that would fall out of pockets and used tools.
  • Why there might be a shipwreck in the swamp.
  • Why there are actual structures from that time period, showing that the KTs (or someone else) were working on the shaft and the flood drains.

Thoughts?

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Sounds at least as plausible as any other theory on the show.

However, I do  not think the "booby trapped" flood tunnels are any such thing.   I think they were an attempt to drain water AWAY from things not into.   Then they go digging all over the place ruining what was laid out so you have floods INTO the tunnels instead of away.

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5 hours ago, AZChristian said:

Thoughts?

They should have you on the show as a special guest in the War Room and you can give your theories on the show.  Probably won't happen though, since it doesn't lead to them finding treasure on the island.  

You don't even need the pirates though.  Maybe the Knights Templar built the flood tunnels and the money pit in preparation for the treasure, but then the ship that was bringing the treasure over sunk.  That way, on Oak Island 3045 they can be searching the entire bottom of the Atlantic Ocean.

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5 minutes ago, rmontro said:

They should have you on the show as a special guest in the War Room and you can give your theories on the show.  Probably won't happen though, since it doesn't lead to them finding treasure on the island.  

Wow.  I'm honored that you think so!  I'd be satisfied if they just had a conversation about options as to WHY they've dug up so many spots on the island and have found no actual treasure . . . just detritus.  Even the brooch could have belonged to a woman who lived on the island.

I'd love to see a War Room conversation with a white board listing "Reasons We Haven't Found the Treasure."

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Gary posted a picture of some mountains near me, and I asked on FB, "Are you looking for the Lost Dutchman treasure?"

And he LIKED my post!!!!

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19 hours ago, AZChristian said:

Gary posted a picture of some mountains near me, and I asked on FB, "Are you looking for the Lost Dutchman treasure?"

And he LIKED my post!!!!

Dutchman, baby!

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Last night digging at the site of the McGinnis farm -- "We found a hidden underground passageway"   Me:   "You found another damn root cellar."

They are digging on the site of a ruined farm house.   Literally nothing is standing and the earth is covering the site back up.   But finding something underground means its "hidden."    It's not like they had architectural drawings showing every room back then.   But it is highly likely they had some place underground for storage to keep things cool.    

But nope, everything is TREASURE.   They are learning so much about the history of the Island from before it got overrun with treasure hunters.    I really wish they cared more about that.   I'd still watch the show.    

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Last night as they roll in with the big cassons  "We didn't do much digging this year waiting for you to show up with these."   WTF?   They've been putting holes all over the damn Island and even on the Mainland all summer long.   This episode felt out of sync for some reason.

"It's the perfect size for a treasure chest."  WTF?????   I didn't know treasure chests came in standard sizes.   I figured you put the booty in whatever size chest you had handy.   Ipso facto - it's a treasure chest.   It's not like you went "oh I WAS going to hide my treasure but turns out I didn't have the right size chest so I'll just leave it sitting out."

General observations:

Why did TPTB decide to feature Gary Drayton all the time.   Even in the war room, they focus on his stupid grinning face all the time.   No matter what is said, they have to go to him for a reaction.    Do the viewers write in saying more Mr. Bobby Dazzler please?   I find him a buffoon.

On a more serious note -- do you think coronavirus will affect their ability to get up there and dig this year?    

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