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Watching Friday's episode: 

It always annoys me on a personal level when someone refers to God as  "the man upstairs". He's not your NEIGHBOR one flight up. But then that whole scene, acting as if Eric has some kind of line to God sarah can't have just because he's an ex priest. It doesn't work that way, LOL. I mean, I don't expect them to get it right. But do they have to be so stereotypical and annoying ?

The answer is yes, of course they do. Oh well.

Eric and Sarah should just stay away from each other. I don't' care how lonely or lost one or both of them are feeling. Two self righteous hypocrites in a pairing is a no go for me.

Speaking of two self righteous hypocrites in a pairing: Chad and Abby. It's like watching vapor, only vapor has more depth. 

The whole thing with Hina, John, Stevano and Marlena is just SIIIICK, gross, nasty, disgusting. Move on, please. Wrap this nonsense up.

I do think Victor and Xander are despicable right now, but I also have no doubt that Saint Eric and Bumbling Brady would probably do the same thing, were they in Xander's place. Still, I think they are taking their sweet time (in TV time) to tell the truth. So, they will deserve everything they have coming. I'll still mock Brady and Eric though, and Sarah, AND Kristen the psycho when the truth comes out. None of the four of them really have room to judge anyone, do they ? Interesting. 

I was so pumped by the flashback stuff and now...straight back down the toilet. 
 

*sigh*

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It was strange and off brand Brady balked at Tate being tested as a donor. All it requires is a simple blood draw to enter registry. He should know that since he was with Chloe when she had leukemia and needed a donor. 

My mom donated bone marrow anonymously, she was in the registry and matched w a stranger years ago. I’m one of the only people who know this. 

Nicole becoming too bitchy for my liking. I’ve always been “iffy” on her character though since I OG Sami, Kate, and Chloe stan. 

Yes it’s beyond obvious the kidnapped “Marlena” is Hattie with her stammering and huffing. I can’t stand people and actors who do the “um um um” “uh uh uh yeah” shit. Just spit it out! It’s not endearing or #relatable. I think also my years doing competitive speech and debate made hearing that tick akin to stepping on a lego or doing so as cringe tripping in front of a crowd. 

Abby and Chad’s outfits and hair were so ugly today. 

I am so over Eric. 

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So Sarah declares her love to Xander right after almost jumping Eric's bones, and Xander running around trying to keep the truth from coming out. Talk about a toxic pairing.

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They are giving me vibes of a different daytime or night time soap couple but I can’t put my finger on which one 🤔 

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Am I hearing Eric right? Nicole is the one he blames for keeping the secret, and not poor Sarah? SMH. Why won't Nicole tell Eric and Brady both to go kick rocks. Both have done nothing but made her life miserable.

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Be still, my heart.  Will Marlena and John find out that both are still among the living?  And will it happen before they need to be in bed by 10?  Will the the dead Stefano inhabiting Steve's body prevail, even though he has to take frequent bathroom breaks at his age?  Will HopeGina put her back out of commission trying to comfort John and find her plan out of commission too?

If this sounds like I'm being ageist, maybe I am - but these are characters played by people in my own age group and I think this shit is STUPID.  Of COURSE older people still have sexual and emotional lives but we don't do it the same way we did when we were younger - with any luck, that's at least partly true because we happened to have gotten smarter.

But then again, this is Salem, the town where, apparently, we're supposed to empathize with an over 50 psychopathic horror of a woman who "lost" the baby she had with the kid she used to babysit, and we're supposed to find some sympathy for her being mocked by the woman whose identity she assumed while forcing her to pretend that she and her child were dead.

I sure hope she's happy.

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It's a sad day when my favorite character onscreen was .... Abigail.

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Good post, as always, @boes but THIS

43 minutes ago, boes said:

the kid she used to babysit

stopped me in my tracks.

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How did I not know this?  Did she REALLY used to babysit Brady?  Oooookay, fine.  Goose, gander.  I get it.  Still.  Squick territory for me.

*sigh* Moving on (bolding for the skimmers):

When Stevano first appeared, I could buy Marlena as actually Hattie.  But Hattie sure felt like Marlena on Monday.  It's definitely inconsistent.  When she's pure 'Hattie', she doesn't have enough sense to be that good of an 'actress'.  But if it IS Hattie, I'll ignore the slip because I like the twist. 

I found the Abigail/Chad conversation DELIGHTFUL.  Their total WTF-faces when seeing the Steveno portrait were perfect.  And if I lived in Salem, I'd make the leap to "evil Stefano plot with a mask" after the Kristen incident.  Shit gets weird with Stefano and his mad scientist Dr. Rolfe.  You gotta roll with it in Salem. 

I cannot believe Rafe and Roman didn't go the three extra feet to check the loft apartment for clues before trying to head to Prague.  Yeesh.  

I was also surprised at the number of story-threads on Tuesday.  I really enjoyed the entire episode.  Yes, I said that.  

Onto the other side of town.

I need to find the support group for people who woobify the bad guys.  Because that's me.  I'm a sucker for the 'I just want to be loved' bad guy, especially when they are repentant (see embarrassing list below).  So Xander, who I used to loathe, is my latest 'cause'.  I love that he's running around town in a panic looking for donors.  He honestly loves that child.  He will most likely be reviled and hated by everyone for what he did later but I feel for the guy.  So it's bittersweet to see him momentarily get the girl who he adores.  First, he really HAS changed.  His 'I don't need the details!' kicked puppy as he was legitimately walking out the door to leave was both kinda funny and telling.  Old Xander would NOT have accepted the situation.  Better Xander actually respected that Sarah had chosen Eric and was leaving.  Growth!  (Why yes, I'll be defending this hill for a little while).   

And then there's Eric.  When did HE turn into the 'fall in bed easy' guy?  He's always been the angsty guy who has to be SURE before he sleeps with someone.  Not Monday!  Nope, he was raring to go.  Eric punkin, get your butt to Confession.  That was Brady-class randy. There was no buildup to suddenly in love with Sarah again.  In fact, your actual thoughts are still with Nicole and your jealousy that she's 'with' Brady.  Now I would absolutely welcome this relaxation on your part if it came with a dose of humble pie.  Your rationale for being pissed at Nicole is that she was selfish.  Your actions with Sarah were pretty selfish right then.  Your heart still belongs to Nicole and you were looking for physical comfort.  Nope nope nopity nope. 

And then Kristen looks sympathetic!  Again! Did we enter an Alternate Universe?  Although I do like Nicole retaining her claws a bit while still being in love with Eric.  They need to have her retain that 'bite' and have Eric accept that.  I think she suppresses that too much with Eric. 

Brady is SOOOO going right back to bed with Kristen BTW.  No spoilers, just... obvious.  Moth to flame.  Moth to flame.  I don't get it and yet I do.  I THINK it's better than alcoholism.  Maybe. 

 

For the curious...
List of characters I have no business being sweet on (feel free to judge me - I deserve it):
Anakin - no shit. He should have lost me at the younglings but I still see a manipulated child who was poorly raised by ObiWan. 
Connor Angel - He should have lost me with his teenage whine-fest and sticking Angle in a box at the bottom of the ocean but he was raised in a literal Hell dimension and his Dad's mortal enemy.
Pete Campell - It may be residual Connor feels but I was glad he wound up with Trudy. Although I was a huge Peggy & Pete fan.
Lex (Smallville) - He actually DID lose me eventually but it was pretty hard to let him go.
Like I said - I need a support group.  'Hi! My name is SueB and I'm a soft touch for evil losers.'

 

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1 hour ago, boes said:

Of COURSE older people still have sexual and emotional lives but we don't do it the same way we did when we were younger - with any luck, that's at least partly true because we happened to have gotten smarter.

Is it ageist to expect people who have adult children and grandchildren to have some perspective and not to behave like teenagers with no life experience and no responsibilities? Is it ageist to criticize the writers of the show for not showing any functional difference between the inner lives of mature adults and hormone-addled teenagers? Is it ageist to expect the writers to at least acknowledge that these particular mature adults have been dealing with this same kind of manipulation and treachery from exactly the same source(s) for decades, and yet they appear just as credulous and ill-prepared and as easily taken advantage of as when the world was new? 

I say it is not.

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1 hour ago, SueB said:

Good post, as always, @boes but THIS

stopped me in my tracks.

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How did I not know this?  Did she REALLY used to babysit Brady?  Oooookay, fine.  Goose, gander.  I get it.  Still.  Squick territory for me.

 

Oh, it happened. I remember seeing a picture of Kristen (back in the 90s) bouncing baby/toddler Brady on her knee. I can't find that picture right now, but you get the idea. Just like EJ and Will used to have play dates back in the 90s, because EJ was born after Will on screen, and we all know how that one turned out! 🥴

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2 hours ago, SueB said:

Good post, as always, @boes but THIS

stopped me in my tracks.

whatchatalkinabout.jpg

How did I not know this?  Did she REALLY used to babysit Brady?  Oooookay, fine.  Goose, gander.  I get it.  Still.  Squick territory for me.

*sigh* Moving on (bolding for the skimmers😞

When Stevano first appeared, I could buy Marlena as actually Hattie.  But Hattie sure felt like Marlena on Monday.  It's definitely inconsistent.  When she's pure 'Hattie', she doesn't have enough sense to be that good of an 'actress'.  But if it IS Hattie, I'll ignore the slip because I like the twist. 

I found the Abigail/Chad conversation DELIGHTFUL.  Their total WTF-faces when seeing the Steveno portrait were perfect.  And if I lived in Salem, I'd make the leap to "evil Stefano plot with a mask" after the Kristen incident.  Shit gets weird with Stefano and his mad scientist Dr. Rolfe.  You gotta roll with it in Salem. 

I cannot believe Rafe and Roman didn't go the three extra feet to check the loft apartment for clues before trying to head to Prague.  Yeesh.  

I was also surprised at the number of story-threads on Tuesday.  I really enjoyed the entire episode.  Yes, I said that.  

Onto the other side of town.

I need to find the support group for people who woobify the bad guys.  Because that's me.  I'm a sucker for the 'I just want to be loved' bad guy, especially when they are repentant (see embarrassing list below).  So Xander, who I used to loathe, is my latest 'cause'.  I love that he's running around town in a panic looking for donors.  He honestly loves that child.  He will most likely be reviled and hated by everyone for what he did later but I feel for the guy.  So it's bittersweet to see him momentarily get the girl who he adores.  First, he really HAS changed.  His 'I don't need the details!' kicked puppy as he was legitimately walking out the door to leave was both kinda funny and telling.  Old Xander would NOT have accepted the situation.  Better Xander actually respected that Sarah had chosen Eric and was leaving.  Growth!  (Why yes, I'll be defending this hill for a little while).   

And then there's Eric.  When did HE turn into the 'fall in bed easy' guy?  He's always been the angsty guy who has to be SURE before he sleeps with someone.  Not Monday!  Nope, he was raring to go.  Eric punkin, get your butt to Confession.  That was Brady-class randy. There was no buildup to suddenly in love with Sarah again.  In fact, your actual thoughts are still with Nicole and your jealousy that she's 'with' Brady.  Now I would absolutely welcome this relaxation on your part if it came with a dose of humble pie.  Your rationale for being pissed at Nicole is that she was selfish.  Your actions with Sarah were pretty selfish right then.  Your heart still belongs to Nicole and you were looking for physical comfort.  Nope nope nopity nope. 

And then Kristen looks sympathetic!  Again! Did we enter an Alternate Universe?  Although I do like Nicole retaining her claws a bit while still being in love with Eric.  They need to have her retain that 'bite' and have Eric accept that.  I think she suppresses that too much with Eric. 

Brady is SOOOO going right back to bed with Kristen BTW.  No spoilers, just... obvious.  Moth to flame.  Moth to flame.  I don't get it and yet I do.  I THINK it's better than alcoholism.  Maybe. 

 

For the curious...
List of characters I have no business being sweet on (feel free to judge me - I deserve it):
Anakin - no shit. He should have lost me at the younglings but I still see a manipulated child who was poorly raised by ObiWan. 
Connor Angel - He should have lost me with his teenage whine-fest and sticking Angle in a box at the bottom of the ocean but he was raised in a literal Hell dimension and his Dad's mortal enemy.
Pete Campell - It may be residual Connor feels but I was glad he wound up with Trudy. Although I was a huge Peggy & Pete fan.
Lex (Smallville) - He actually DID lose me eventually but it was pretty hard to let him go.
Like I said - I need a support group.  'Hi! My name is SueB and I'm a soft touch for evil losers.'

 

I have to join you in the "Xander love" group 🙂  I like the actor & think that  Paul & Lindsay have great chemistry.  He still has that 'bad boy persona" but he is So in love with Sarah & little Mickey...he's going to the ends of the earth to find a way to save Mickey.   I know we, the fans, are supposed to 'hand wave away" the sins of Xander & Ben, but I have an easier time of it with Xander because I like the actor & it seems more plausible with him.

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Does Sonny really liked Evan or is he just lonely ?

eric has always kind of lead Sarah on.  
I am glad she has moved on. 
 

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8 minutes ago, Petunia13 said:

Evan and Sonny have ZERO chemistry. 

Yes! And the actor who plays Evan is so bland, he has no on-screen personality.  I guess now we know that he is a 'bad guy"....he opens Rafe's mail!  And whoa, its a letter from the Court about his background check.  

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So apparently Sonny and Evan really did it.  I guess Evan really is gay or bi or "love the one you're with".

Nicole,  woman crawling to a man (or vice versa) is never a good look.

 

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9 hours ago, Sidney said:

Am I hearing Eric right? Nicole is the one he blames for keeping the secret, and not poor Sarah? SMH. Why won't Nicole tell Eric and Brady both to go kick rocks. Both have done nothing but made her life miserable.

Eh Nicole isn't faultless she's hurt them too that being said I would prefer Nicole with someone else entirely. Brady/Nicole work better as BFFs

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3 hours ago, Silver Raven said:

So apparently Sonny and Evan really did it.  I guess Evan really is gay or bi or "love the one you're with".

 

 

It wasn’t romantic at all.  Do you want to go to my room.   Yeah ok. 
 

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8 hours ago, SueB said:

Good post, as always, @boes but THIS

stopped me in my tracks.

whatchatalkinabout.jpg

How did I not know this?  

 

 

Onto the other side of town.

I need to find the support group for people who woobify the bad guys.  Because that's me.  I'm a sucker for the 'I just want to be loved' bad guy, especially when they are repentant (see embarrassing list below).  So Xander, who I used to loathe, is my latest 'cause'.  I love that he's running around town in a panic looking for donors.  He honestly loves that child.  He will most likely be reviled and hated by everyone for what he did later but I feel for the guy.  So it's bittersweet to see him momentarily get the girl who he adores.  First, he really HAS changed.  His 'I don't need the details!' kicked puppy as he was legitimately walking out the door to leave was both kinda funny and telling.  Old Xander would NOT have accepted the situation.  Better Xander actually respected that Sarah had chosen Eric and was leaving.  Growth!  (Why yes, I'll be defending this hill for a little while).   

And then there's Eric.  When did HE turn into the 'fall in bed easy' guy?  

And then Kristen looks sympathetic!  Again! Did we enter an Alternate Universe?  Although I do like Nicole retaining her claws a bit while still being in love with Eric.  They need to have her retain that 'bite' and have Eric accept that.  I think she suppresses that too much with Eric. 

Brady is SOOOO going right back to bed with Kristen BTW.  No spoilers, just... obvious.  Moth to flame.  Moth to flame.  I don't get it and yet I do.  I THINK it's better than alcoholism.  Maybe. 

 

For the curious...
List of characters I have no business being sweet on (feel free to judge me - I deserve it):
 

 

I think Eric has been the fall in bed easy guy for years now. I mean, if you can sleep with your brother's girlfriend/fiancé or whatever it was Nicole was to Brady at the time, you've kinda laid down all strong morals you used to have. 

I knew Kristen had to be around Brady when he was young, but I don't remember specifics. They are so gross. It's not the age difference. It's the fact that she tried to cause so much havoc to your family, Brady ! Man up, son. Seriously.

I actually liked Kristen in that moment of offering to help. And of course, my guess is, she'll be the match, the one who "saves" the baby. 

You are not alone in your protection and love of Xander. And, I think he loves that baby more than anyone. He's the one really trying to DO SOMETHING. Of course he's doing it because he knows the truth, but still. He'll be treated just like, or worse, than Victor when all is said and done, while he loves that child to death and Victor doesn't give a CRAP. 

My list of characters I have no business being sweet on is lengthy. Loki from Marvel is not only on it, he's the only reason I can stand that franchise anymore. Pretty much all the Three Musketeers, which, if you've ever read the book, you know that they were really more anti heroes than heroes. And many more. I have a thing for damaged, complicated characters. Without them, the fictional world would be really, REALLY dull.

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6 hours ago, BuckeyeLou said:

I have to join you in the "Xander love" group 🙂  I like the actor & think that  Paul & Lindsay have great chemistry.  He still has that 'bad boy persona" but he is So in love with Sarah & little Mickey...he's going to the ends of the earth to find a way to save Mickey.   I know we, the fans, are supposed to 'hand wave away" the sins of Xander & Ben, but I have an easier time of it with Xander because I like the actor & it seems more plausible with him.

I think there's also the fact that Ben has actual victims that are, as far as we know, "dead', dead, and Xander doesn't.  Or does he ? I honestly don't know, but I don't think he does ? And, he doesn't have the convenient excuse of mental disease. I think there is a lot more hand waving going on with Ben. He was abused/disturbed or whatever, so we are supposed to accept it.

I think if you like the character, you can accept it. I think the actor who plays  Ben still plays him as if that darkness is still there, just waiting to come out. Which is fine if you're treated by everyone as if you are still that person. You know, kind of like how most of the town treats Xander ? (some of them with good reason, but still).

But they crossed the line with the Ben propping for me. No one is allowed to hate him, and if they do, we are supposed to see them as wrong or bad or unfair. It's ridiculous.

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8 hours ago, QueenSerena said:

Oh, it happened. I remember seeing a picture of Kristen (back in the 90s) bouncing baby/toddler Brady on her knee. I can't find that picture right now, but you get the idea. Just like EJ and Will used to have play dates back in the 90s, because EJ was born after Will on screen, and we all know how that one turned out! 🥴

I also remember Brady asking John if Kristen was going to be his new mommy during the time that Marlena was kidnapped once again and little Brady who had bonded with Marlena as his mom was confused about Marlena not being around and Kristen mothering him in her place..

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The justice system sure moves fast for prisoner executions in the Salem area. Most tend to sit on Death Row for years. Not three weeks! Maybe the whole prison story will be over soon. Will, care about yourself and not poor Maggie. She is a big girl and Victor can hire very good lawyers. You should not be sitting in prison thinking about having some actual facts that you may be innocent. The police investigation seems a bit off, especially if the car that swung was black and not grey. There may be skid marks on the road and all sorts of evidence to prove that you are not guilty.

Sonny, you have moved on quickly. Surely as a Kiriakis, you could run your own background check on this Evan dude.

Wonder what was in the letter that Evan scrunched up. Also wonder if Rafe will get an emailed copy sent to his work address. Unless I got my mail from the Superbox myself, I would not trust my nanny.

Nicole, before reuniting with Eric, set some boundaries of how he is to treat you - with honesty, respect, and mutuality. He seems to find a simple fault with you, bounce out of your life, call you names, and then bounce back. You can stop this - cause he will be back at it again at some point.

Xander and Sarah were cute.  I liked her calling him a big oaf.

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Count me in with the Xander liking group.  I doubt it will last once the truth comes out, and the truth of his caring about Sarah and the baby won't be able to withstand the damage the baby switch has done, but till then, he and Sarah are, for me, the most sympathetic of those couples.  I very much enjoyed their scenes today.  The actors play well together.

Oh joy, Eric forgives Nicole.  Prayers have been answered.  Will Nicole be crawling through broken glass now or is Eric going to save that penance for when he deigns to sleep with her?  I wonder if Nicole will have to light a candle to seal her forgiveness, and if so, can she plant it firmly up his ass?  I only say this with the best intentions, to honor the holiness that is Eric.

Jezuz, Nicole, get yourself a blow up doll and be done with it.  Eric is a smug, sadistic prick and it won't be long before his need to get a spiritual boner by chastising you overcomes any "love" he professes to feel.

And then there's Kristen.......nah, I just can't with her today.

 

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Why would Rafe a former FBI agent and a police officer not have a background check before hiring Davids nanny.  you have a background check you to work part time at the grocery store now

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1 hour ago, boes said:

 

Oh joy, Eric forgives Nicole.  Prayers have been answered.  Will Nicole be crawling through broken glass now or is Eric going to save that penance for when he deigns to sleep with her?  I wonder if Nicole will have to light a candle to seal her forgiveness, and if so, can she plant it firmly up his ass?  I only say this with the best intentions, to honor the holiness that is Eric.

 

 

 

I've always felt Eric and Nicole thrive on the drama and only truly want each other when there's someone or something else in the way. If they both wanted to be together and have their HEA, they could have had it years ago and no one would have cared as long as they weren't sneaking around to do it.  I think they both buy into this tragic lovers kept apart vision of themselves, when in truth, the two biggest people who have kept them apart, IS themselves. 
I'm well and truly over them as characters and as a couple. I just don't care. I can tolerate each of them only in scenes with others.

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1 hour ago, IWantCandy71 said:

I've always felt Eric and Nicole thrive on the drama and only truly want each other when there's someone or something else in the way. If they both wanted to be together and have their HEA, they could have had it years ago and no one would have cared as long as they weren't sneaking around to do it.  I think they both buy into this tragic lovers kept apart vision of themselves, when in truth, the two biggest people who have kept them apart, IS themselves. 
I'm well and truly over them as characters and as a couple. I just don't care. I can tolerate each of them only in scenes with others.

Eric/Nicole were never the love of each other's lives. I do think that at one point they did love each other over 20 years ago.  They were never like Stayla and Jack/Jennifer. Too much has happened during the time they were apart. Plus, Nicole loved Brady and EJ much more than Eric. Eric is so underdeveloped and he is the son of Roman and Marlena who was raised by John. He should be more dynamic and interesting. 

I wish they had made it that Eric's distrust of women stems from his mother's affair, it would have been a great obstacle for Eric to overcome in his journey as a character and in how that shapes his relationships with women.  The show used to be good at that, giving characters an internal struggle/flaw that made them sympathetic to the audience.  I may be alone in this but I hated that they made Eric a priest, they neutered him and it was unnecessary.

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43 minutes ago, Pearson80 said:

Eric/Nicole were never the love of each other's lives. I do think that at one point they did love each other over 20 years ago.  They were never like Stayla and Jack/Jennifer. Too much has happened during the time they were apart. Plus, Nicole loved Brady and EJ much more than Eric. Eric is so underdeveloped and he is the son of Roman and Marlena who was raised by John. He should be more dynamic and interesting. 

I wish they had made it that Eric's distrust of women stems from his mother's affair, it would have been a great obstacle for Eric to overcome in his journey as a character and in how that shapes his relationships with women.  The show used to be good at that, giving characters an internal struggle/flaw that made them sympathetic to the audience.  I may be alone in this but I hated that they made Eric a priest, they neutered him and it was unnecessary.

Amen!!!! Eric/Nicole were each other's first love, but I agree that they weren't the love of each other's lives. Or I should say that Eric wasn't the love of Nicole's life. 

Now Eric who we haven't seen in a significant relationship outside of Jennifer and Greta 20 + years ago. Nicole may in fact be his greatest love by default. 

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I think Nicole IS the love of Eric's life but the reverse can't be said.  However I think Eric brings Nicole back to who SHE believes is her authentic self.  It was her fear of being poor that took her down a bad path and away from Eric all those many years ago.  Nicole hasn't worried about money for years.  She works, but even when she was working at the parish office, she didn't have the same life focus. And now that she has Holly, a big hole in her heart has been filled.  And Eric is just the kind of Dad she wants for Holly and Nicole does love him.  

Eric just needs to accept Nicole is going to be a normal human being, not a nun with benefits. He HAS to stop the immature judgmental attitude.  I don't know if it was meant to be 'truth' or a throw away line, but at least yesterday he acknowledged his own stupidity almost lost him Nicole.  And I'm glad he confessed kissing Sarah.  He needed Nicole to know that happened because secrets are BAD.  And she clearly has had insecurity regarding Sarah. 

Speaking of Sarah, I loved her little speech to Xander.  His choice of cologne is HORRIBLE.  That's just -- priceless.  She should go ahead and fix that.  They were really cute together.  When the baby drama plays out, however, I think that's a bridge too far for her.  And Xander's days of being the 'good guy' in her eyes are numbered I think. Not if she loses Mickey from her arms.  I hope I'm wrong but I kinda doubt it.

Victor, OTOH, will get off scot-free.  Oh they'll be condemnation and curmudgeonry but he won't be ostracized like Xander. 

Tuesday felt like the 'happy before the storm'.  All the couples are re-established (Xarah, Ericole, Bristen).  Just waiting for that DNA-grenade to go off.

 

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10 hours ago, boes said:

And then there's Kristen.......nah, I just can't with her today.

Or, you know, ever.

I'm sorry, but Crazy McMurder-Chore has no call to be doling out self-righteous slaps to anyone, under any circumstances. I mean, who does she think she is? Abigail?

And Brady … seems to like it, in the end. There really is something wrong with that boy.

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7 hours ago, Pearson80 said:

I wish they had made it that Eric's distrust of women stems from his mother's affair, it would have been a great obstacle for Eric to overcome in his journey as a character and in how that shapes his relationships with women.  The show used to be good at that, giving characters an internal struggle/flaw that made them sympathetic to the audience.  I may be alone in this but I hated that they made Eric a priest, they neutered him and it was unnecessary.

I so agree.  The character, when he's acting all judgy is carrying that burden as well.  Show tries to have it both ways, Eric as a sexual being with flaws and Eric as the all holy one and that just grates on my nerves.

For me, too, my dislike of Eric has a lot to do with how Greg Vaughn plays him,   GV has, IMO, this unfortunate default expression of looking at whoever has disappointed/made him mad, THIS time, as if they just farted, big time, and then he whisper yells at them.  Maybe with a different actor, or if GV acted out his feelings differently, I wouldn't dislike the character quite as much as I do.

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3 hours ago, SueB said:

Speaking of Sarah, I loved her little speech to Xander.  His choice of cologne is HORRIBLE.  That's just -- priceless.  She should go ahead and fix that.  They were really cute together.  When the baby drama plays out, however, I think that's a bridge too far for her.  And Xander's days of being the 'good guy' in her eyes are numbered I think. Not if she loses Mickey from her arms.  I hope I'm wrong but I kinda doubt it.

 

I agree, Sarah bonded with a baby that is not hers and she was not able to mourn her own baby. How can she look at Xander the same again.  However painful losing the real Mickey would have been for Sarah, losing this Mickey is going to be just as hard, if not worst in a way. She has bonded with Rachel as her Mickey.  This is going to be a gut punch for Sara.

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11 hours ago, Pearson80 said:

Eric/Nicole were never the love of each other's lives. I do think that at one point they did love each other over 20 years ago.  They were never like Stayla and Jack/Jennifer. Too much has happened during the time they were apart. Plus, Nicole loved Brady and EJ much more than Eric. Eric is so underdeveloped and he is the son of Roman and Marlena who was raised by John. He should be more dynamic and interesting. 

I wish they had made it that Eric's distrust of women stems from his mother's affair, it would have been a great obstacle for Eric to overcome in his journey as a character and in how that shapes his relationships with women.  The show used to be good at that, giving characters an internal struggle/flaw that made them sympathetic to the audience.  I may be alone in this but I hated that they made Eric a priest, they neutered him and it was unnecessary.

Eric honestly needs a total revamp because his flaws far outweigh whatever good qualities he has. I don't know if it's too late or not. He's been whiney and self righteous his whole adult life. Maybe his sole purpose should just be to stand there and look pretty.

 

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10 hours ago, SueB said:

Speaking of Sarah, I loved her little speech to Xander.  His choice of cologne is HORRIBLE.  That's just -- priceless.  She should go ahead and fix that.  They were really cute together.  When the baby drama plays out, however, I think that's a bridge too far for her.  And Xander's days of being the 'good guy' in her eyes are numbered I think. Not if she loses Mickey from her arms.  I hope I'm wrong but I kinda doubt it.

A lesser reason as to why I quit watching. It's great that Sarah loves Xander, and he her, but this baby shit is going to ruin it, and so...what's the point? They were the only bright spot on the current hot mess. So with nothing good coming, I peaced out.

Maybe if Steve ever remembers he IS Steve and ends the blah that is Justin/Kayla...or Jack/Jennifer get some meat. (But then they'd be ruined, too. No winning.)

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Ugh! I'm already dreading the shit storm that will eventually rain down on Xander's head. Thanks for nothing, Victor.

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Am I supposed to like you, Lani, or otherwise root for you? You lost Eli because you did not tell him the truth about some stupid App that can apparently control his grandmother's pacemaker. Eli can choose whoever he wants. You dumped him and now you are mad that you did not get your own way. If you do get him back, your marriage will be doomed.

JJ, please get a job out of town.

Gabi, do not play your cards so openly. Lani knows what you did. Keep the whole pacemaker thing quiet.

At least Xander and Sarah and Eric and Nicole got some romance, of sorts. Xander will come crashing down soon enough, especially if Victor throws him under the bus.

The show seems to be setting up Brady and Kristen for a reunion. Wonder if Maggie is starting to get memories of the night of the accident.

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2 hours ago, lb60 said:

Ugh! I'm already dreading the shit storm that will eventually rain down on Xander's head. Thanks for nothing, Victor.

Kristen will be out for blood.  Probably literally.

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2 hours ago, Frozendiva said:

The show seems to be setting up Brady and Kristen for a reunion. Wonder if Maggie is starting to get memories of the night of the accident.

This is where the year's time jump was REALLY a bad idea.  Before the time jump, we had no reason to like Kristen and basically a lot of us thought Brady was being really stupid by being involved with her.  Flash forward, Kristen has pretty much been a bitch the entire time we've seen her and suddenly (I guess because we saw a few scenes where she lost a baby) I think we're supposed to be rooting for her and Brady?   Even if you feel sympathy for her, that doesn't necessarily make Brady NOT an idiot for getting involved with her again.  We didn't see ANY scenes over the last year that showed Kristen genuinely trying to do anything nice for anyone so as far as we know, she's still a despicable person who had something bad happen to her.

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1 hour ago, DaphneCat said:

This is where the year's time jump was REALLY a bad idea.  Before the time jump, we had no reason to like Kristen and basically a lot of us thought Brady was being really stupid by being involved with her.  Flash forward, Kristen has pretty much been a bitch the entire time we've seen her and suddenly (I guess because we saw a few scenes where she lost a baby) I think we're supposed to be rooting for her and Brady?   Even if you feel sympathy for her, that doesn't necessarily make Brady NOT an idiot for getting involved with her again.  We didn't see ANY scenes over the last year that showed Kristen genuinely trying to do anything nice for anyone so as far as we know, she's still a despicable person who had something bad happen to her.

No way does this psycho killer deserve a baby or a loving reunion with Brady. Sarah gets the shaft for this witch. Ron really is a hack.

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Is Julie playing Gabi ?   She hasn’t really had the pacemaker that long for it to need a new battery.  Now that would be a great twist.  Julie outwits Gabi.  Julies haters would hate it lol.  
   

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10 hours ago, Silver Raven said:

Kristen will be out for blood. Probably literally.

"Probably"? For a certainty. Everything about that woman is absolutely literal.

 

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2 hours ago, tribeca said:

Is Julie playing Gabi ?   She hasn’t really had the pacemaker that long for it to need a new battery.  Now that would be a great twist.  Julie outwits Gabi.  Julies haters would hate it lol.  
   

Oh, we would!

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What I don't get is why Victor decided to swap Real Mickey with Brady's kid? There were three baby girls born that night, why not take the one with no ties to his family? Of course I am fully expecting that anonymous baby is the actual one that died and was swapped with Real Mickey to show up 5 years down the road as an angry 18 year old

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How'd you all enjoy that Lani/Kristen combo of lovefest and shitstorm yesterday?   

Lani is such a sweet one, isn't she?  I especially love how she disses JJ - you know, Lani, the guy who is letting you hide out in his apartment and trying to help you disable Gabi's revenge plan while you sit on your ass and harrass your brother over the phone?  Because, for some reason, he feels the need to help you and you feel the need to talk crap about him behind his back with Kristen.

And then there's Kristen, just SO indignant about how Gabi "hurt" the twuuu lub of Lani and Eli - because, I guess, Kristen is just a sucka for love.  And now she's just the best bud an almost nun like Lani could ever have!  

I never had much feeling about Lani one way or the other but that sniping, unpleasant pain in the ass who returned can leave again any time - and I have zero interest in seeing her happy.  I would be happy, though, if she left.

Her best buddy Kristen just gets more vacuous, more vicious and more bizarre with every scene.  And apparently, she's JUST what Brady needs to complete him.  He really is Victor's idiot grandson.

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33 minutes ago, brisbydog said:

What I don't get is why Victor decided to swap Real Mickey with Brady's kid? There were three baby girls born that night, why not take the one with no ties to his family?

Budget.

Oh, in-story reasons? Uhh...

I got nothin'.

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1 hour ago, Sandman said:

Budget.

Oh, in-story reasons? Uhh...

I got nothin'.

He also thought it’d end Brady’s bond to Kristen, who he detests. 

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19 minutes ago, boes said:

How'd you all enjoy that Lani/Kristen combo of lovefest and shitstorm yesterday?   

Lani is such a sweet one, isn't she?  I especially love how she disses JJ - you know, Lani, the guy who is letting you hide out in your apartment and trying to help you disable Gabi's revenge plan while you sit on your ass and harrass your brother over the phone?  Because, for some reason, he feels the need to help you and you feel the need to talk crap about him behind his back with Kristen.

And then there's Kristen, just SO indignant about how Gabi "hurt" the twuuu lub of Lani and Eli - because, I guess, Kristen is just a sucka for love.  And now she's just the best bud an almost nun like Lani could ever have!  

I never had much feeling about Lani one way or the other but that sniping, unpleasant pain in the ass who returned can leave again any time - and I have zero interest in seeing her happy.  I would be happy, though, if she left.

And her best buddy Kristen just gets more vacuous, more vicious and more bizarre with every scene.  And she's JUST what Brady needs to complete him.  He really is Victor's idiot grandson.

You just put your finger on it Boes.  Lani isn't treating JJ and Theo like two people who are going out of their way to do her a favor.  She is treating both of them like rather incompetent employees who are not living up to her expectations.  How DARE JJ not spit at Gabi every time he walks by her.

At this point (even though I know it won't happen) I want Gabi to find out what's happening, and change the app to do something totally unrelated.  When Lani publicly accuses her of having it, she can show all of Salem that Lani is completely crazy.  The app doesn't control Julie's heart - it's a fancy, less obvious, Life Alert system DiMeara is testing (and NOT on Julie, it's actually connected to a necklace Gabi is wearing.)

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3 hours ago, DaphneCat said:

The app doesn't control Julie's heart - it's a fancy, less obvious, Life Alert system DiMeara is testing (and NOT on Julie, it's actually connected to a necklace Gabi is wearing.)

Maybe what Salem needs is a Love Alert system, for when you're about to make a fatally stupid decision in your romantic life ("Help -- I've fallen in love with Bonehead Black, and I can't get up (mostly because I've lost the will to live...")).

Gabi's new Dimera personal tech division would make a mint.

 

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Three babies were born that night? Was the third just a throwaway comment by Kayla or Haley or did we learn any more about that? 

Totally with you on Lani, @boes. I never took to her (the actress or the character, not sure which if not both), and while she's not responsible for the plot's stupidity, she's been the least sympathetic character on the canvas. And that includes Kristen. 

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Why can't John break the glass out of the door he's trying to open? Why can't Marlena break the glass out of the window she's trying to open?

How can Kayla see through those bangs?

 

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After a long day at work sit down and turn on Days episode on DVR.   Ten minutes into the show it looks like Marlena is on to Steve.  Then I don’t know what happened looked like she was hurt.  NBC Interrupts with a special report.  Now I will never know what happened

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20 hours ago, Frozendiva said:

 

JJ, please get a job out of town.

 

Or die either option would be an improvement for him over this.

God forbid he has scenes with people I actually like....

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