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YAS GABI! Get that dick and ride it into the sunset!! Good for you!

Good on Kate being the only one in Salem to clock that it's really Kristen.

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Kristins plans are so stupid.  
Kate and Jake seem like they would be incredibly easy to break up.  
telling a man a beautiful women has feelings for him is very dumb if you don’t want said man to go after her.  

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Why does that baby sound like he's choking?

I love how Xander just sits there and takes the abuse.  He knows what he is.

How many times does Jake have to be reminded that it's not his house?

Chloe knows a doctor who not only makes house calls, but also travels from out of town?

Gee, Eli, maybe if you want to keep the babies asleep, you don't yell at the door.

 

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Eli will "watch" the babies? Gee, I thought it was called "parenting".

How has Chanel floated her way around the world scamming people? She's truly awful at it.

I honestly figured Kristen would just bonk Jake on the head and add to her collection in the trunk shipped off to Sarah Island.

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I'm glad Gabi/Phillip didn't sleep together it would be too soon. Although I didn't need Gabi talking about how Jake has sex with Kate all over the house. I think I was more repulsed than Phillip was tbh. I did find her top really cute though.

This Ben/Ciara/Theo story is so awful that Lani has become the voice of reason. That's all you need to know.

Paulina/Xander/Chanel was the best part of this episode.

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I'm bummed the Xander/Chanel thing is over already. 

I need them to give up on Gabi/Jake. Phillip/Gabi is already 100 times more interesting.

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27 minutes ago, CanaryFan98 said:

Paulina/Xander/Chanel was the best part of this episode

...really? I found Paulina's delivery unforgivable. She can't deliver her lines cleanly or humorously. It's like her tongue is fighting the script and she compensates by acting worked up. I'll be skipping her scenes from now on.

23 minutes ago, peachmangosteen said:

I'm bummed the Xander/Chanel thing is over already. 

I'm not! Poor Paul sat there at that table with a face that read "I've been on this show 6+ years and they stick me with this?" He was propping up their scene just by being in it. Im so glad Xander is now free to have a better storyline. Get Ben to prop up Chanel and her Outraged! Mamma!

Where is Justin these days?

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1 minute ago, DisneyBoy said:

Where is Justin these days?

Losing cases somewhere nearby.

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16 minutes ago, DisneyBoy said:

...really? I found Paulina's delivery unforgivable. She can't deliver her lines cleanly or humorously. It's like her tongue is fighting the script and she compensates by acting worked up. I'll be skipping her scenes from now on.

I'm not! Poor Paul sat there at that table with a face that read "I've been on this show 6+ years and they stick me with this?" He was propping up their scene just by being in it. Im so glad Xander is now free to have a better storyline. Get Ben to prop up Chanel and her Outraged! Mamma!

Where is Justin these days?

I like that Paulina isn't letting Chanel work her over and is the only thing besides her daughter about this show that doesn't completely depress me.

I would be interested in seeing Paulina react to Ben she might find Xander a better option in comparison.

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18 minutes ago, DisneyBoy said:

Im so glad Xander is now free to have a better storyline. 

This very brief storyline was the most I’ve liked him in a very long time. I just hope Sarah doesn’t come back anytime soon because they’re unwatchable to me. Just give me a lot more of this Xander before bringing Sarah back please!

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Count me in as someone who likes Gabi and Philip together. They have a lot of chemistry! She seems to make Philip happy, and anytime JKJ can show off those dimples works for me!

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Theo's reasoning is like he's trying to kidnap her, get her out of Salem asap.

Chanel is a spoiled brat, her mother should cut her off for good.

 

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2 hours ago, peachmangosteen said:

I need them to give up on Gabi/Jake. Phillip/Gabi is already 100 times more interesting.

Oh man I am 1000000% in agreement with you on all of this. Please show, stop it with the Gabi/Jake! They don't have anywhere near the spark Phillip/Gabi does! 

2 hours ago, CanaryFan98 said:

I'm glad Gabi/Phillip didn't sleep together it would be too soon.

I was all ready to fight you on this, but the more I think on it, I have to (very reluctantly) agree. It is too soon, and I'm glad Gabi stopped it instead of lying back and thinking of boring Jake the whole time. I'm loving P/G too much for it to be a one and done deal.

That being said, Gabi still needs to GET. THAT. DICK. 

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Too bad Chanel didn't just tear up the marriage license and tell everyone is was fake. No need for a divorce. Felt sorry for poor Xander hoping that the cheque for $50,000 would give him access to a better storyline. He and Chanel are in different leagues. I did like Paulina refusing to give her daughter money. Yeah, she paid for everything at a huge price in that Chanel is a spoiled brat.

And now Theo runs in to her. Yeah, Theo, you can be Ciara's mealticket for a while. Have no idea what both Ciara and Chanel see in you. Maybe your tech job pays well. South Africa is still a fairly dangerous country and maybe Ciara may not like living behind walls and fences.

Krisusan was obnoxious with her weird premonitions about Jake and Gabi. Insufferable. Jake should have rang for Harold to kindly escort her out the door. Who leaves a stranger in the living room and goes off somewhere in the house? The stranger had a premonition? And now she has to 'disappear' Kate. Where is the trunk?

Lucas, you know that Chloe's father has major medical connections. A brain tumor may not work for very long.

Eli, you are not obligated to answer your door. Again, surely these apartments have buzzers that people need to ring before getting access to the door.

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7 hours ago, RunningMarket said:

How has Chanel floated her way around the world scamming people? She's truly awful at it.

Chanel hasn't had to scam until around the time she arrived in Salem, and possibly started with Claire, Tripp and the expensive champagne.  Paulina only recently shut off Chanel's credit cards.  

When Philip gave Gabi that hug after she couldn't "get it up", I kinda/sorta liked the idea of them as a couple.  Up until that moment, they've mostly gotten on my nerves.  

There was definitely some chemistry between Brandon Barash's Stefan and Gabi but Jake and Gabi feel like something the Show continues to tell us is amazing couple but it's not working on-screen at all.  Brandon B feels more comfortable as Jake but I only like his scenes when he's being a friend to Abigail, and when he's having a spat with Gwen.  Tyler Christopher was more convincing as a DiMera/Alamain offspring.    

KruSan and Jake were painful.  If that was meant to work as comedy relief, well...

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I was hoping that Susan’s false teeth would have come out of her mouth and nipped Jake and he would realize that she was Kristen.

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I just noticed the classic stairwell behind Jake...so this white room is really supposed to be the new DiMera living room? How did they explain the change? I mean they've lost the door to the garden and the passage to the...kitchen? Whatever was back there...and no piano?

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8 hours ago, peachmangosteen said:

This very brief storyline was the most I’ve liked him in a very long time. I just hope Sarah doesn’t come back anytime soon because they’re unwatchable to me. Just give me a lot more of this Xander before bringing Sarah back please!

Agreed!

He’s much more watchable and entertaining without Sara!

 

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8 hours ago, TenaciousWarrior said:

Count me in as someone who likes Gabi and Philip together. They have a lot of chemistry! She seems to make Philip happy, and anytime JKJ can show off those dimples works for me!

Yesss!!!

 

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13 hours ago, peachmangosteen said:

This very brief storyline was the most I’ve liked him in a very long time. I just hope Sarah doesn’t come back anytime soon because they’re unwatchable to me. Just give me a lot more of this Xander before bringing Sarah back please!

Ah yes, one of the other reasons why I stopped watching a while ago - Xander and Sarah.  The way the actress played that character, as a weird, immature school girl with the baby-talk and the cutesy crap... ugh.  It was completely unwatchable.  How was I really supposed to believe that she was also a highly intelligent doctor??  

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4 minutes ago, FnkyChkn34 said:

Ah yes, one of the other reasons why I stopped watching a while ago - Xander and Sarah.  The way the actress played that character, as a weird, immature school girl with the baby-talk and the cutesy crap... ugh.  It was completely unwatchable.  How was I really supposed to believe that she was also a highly intelligent doctor??  

Yea, it was awful lol. I hope if (but let's be real, when lol) they bring Sarah back, LG plays her like she did at first instead of the weird shit she was doing after Sarah got with Xander.

6 hours ago, DisneyBoy said:

I just noticed the classic stairwell behind Jake...so this white room is really supposed to be the new DiMera living room? 

I wasn't sure if that was supposed to be a new room or just the room we always see in the Dimera mansion redecorated, but when Kristen opened the door to the tunnels, I realized it was indeed that room redecorated. I'm surprised they got rid of the Stefano portrait in that room.

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36 minutes ago, peachmangosteen said:

Yea, it was awful lol. I hope if (but let's be real, when lol) they bring Sarah back, LG plays her like she did at first instead of the weird shit she was doing after Sarah got with Xander.

I wasn't sure if that was supposed to be a new room or just the room we always see in the Dimera mansion redecorated, but when Kristen opened the door to the tunnels, I realized it was indeed that room redecorated. I'm surprised they got rid of the Stefano portrait in that room.

Have they verbally addressed the change? Its so....stark. When they changed the Kiriakis mansion at least they just repainted, and said it was Bonnie's doing. This is a full reno situation.

 

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51 minutes ago, DisneyBoy said:

Have they verbally addressed the change? 

Not that I know of, but I fast forward a lot so I could have missed it.

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8 hours ago, DisneyBoy said:

I just noticed the classic stairwell behind Jake...so this white room is really supposed to be the new DiMera living room? How did they explain the change? I mean they've lost the door to the garden and the passage to the...kitchen? Whatever was back there...and no piano?

https://michaelfairmantv.com/days-production-designer-tom-early-shows-off-new-and-reimagined-dimera-mansion-set/2021/03/30/?fbclid=IwAR23vGRWKZ5MUksZBOhn3Zkruqr85pNLcxM5knlXbJ5RiXZhHfpcJPFQzIo

It's supposed to be the same room, but they mixed up their walls when putting the pieces back together. 😂  I don't think it's very easy to move a fireplace and 2 doors to an outdoor garden like that.  Apparently the whole house was redone?  It needed a refresh, sure, but changing the whole architecture is laughable.

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Sarah cried for like 2 years. It was nice to see her giddy and happy even if it was for only short time.  Maybe she could be her goofy self with Zander.  

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Does Ava do anything besides cook? 

where is she getting the money for all these groceries she’s unpacking everyday when she’s said she’s so broke she can’t even afford a hotel room? But unemployed Ben and Xander both can afford hotel rooms? 
 

if they’re gonna bring this chick back just to stir sauce or chop peppers for hours a week they can keep it.  There was actual performers who’s characters did things that Show pink slipped for this. 
 

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Chanel has a lot to learn before she becomes an even barely competent grifter, which seems to be her sole available career choice because she does not know anything besides living off other people's money and favours. Her mother has been a pretty easy mark, which is not exactly rigorous training for the real world. Blurting out the scheme before the sucker you are trying to scam is beyond stupid.

She does have a backup tactic, i.e. turning on the (artificial and not very convincing) charm on others, like she tried with Eli when she learned he was a cop during the champagne kerfuffle in the square. But it is very easy to see through it and it will not take her very far. Perhaps the writers intend to portray her progress towards becoming a fully fonctional scammer, but that could take a long time and much screen time, and they rarely take the time necessary for such sub-plots to unfold.

Theo comes accross as taking advantage of a diminished Ciara by using her to live out a doomed fantasy. Not that Ben's latest scheme is any wiser.

Theo looks like so much like a baby that one might think creepy Ciara is literally robbing the cradle just by looking at the two actors together.

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Sean and Ciara were very sweet together.  
finally Claire uses her brain and does not just go along with Bens stupid plan.  
Ben has always been possessive in his relationships. Maybe he should wonder if he gave Ciara more time and did not come on so strong if she would have given him chance.  
John still seems very angry and don’t think he is getting help with that.  
Justin is Belles lawyer ?   Good thing she is starting to figure things out. 
why is Rafe still so hang up on Hope?  They did not work out for a reason.  
 

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Liked the dynamic between Jan and Nicole. One still bad while the other now good. Now show will set up Rafe between Ava and Nicole. If GV doesn't come back then Rafe and Nicole together will be good. Also Nicole's hair looked good today!

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15 hours ago, Frozendiva said:

Insufferable. Jake should have rang for Harold to kindly escort her out the door.

He has no right to escort anybody out of his sister in law's house.  Besides, she's the mother of his half brother.  Allegedly.

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37 minutes ago, Petunia13 said:

where is she getting the money for all these groceries she’s unpacking everyday when she’s said she’s so broke she can’t even afford a hotel room? But unemployed Ben and Xander both can afford hotel rooms? 

Ben appears to live at Jake's old apartment above his garage, and Xander told Chanel the other day that he's months behind on his bill - he just flirted with the manager who gave him more time.

I assume that Rafe is paying for the groceries.

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1 hour ago, wurdalak said:

Theo comes across as taking advantage of a diminished Ciara by using her to live out a doomed fantasy. Not that Ben's latest scheme is any wiser.

THIS!  The only positive thing Theo has done in regards to Ciara is stopping Ben from injecting her with our favorite mad doctor's memory serum.  Theo seems to be thinking of himself as some sort of noble savior but he's just like Ben in that all of his actions regarding Ciara have been for his own selfish desires.  Neither Ben or Theo are any type of a good guy in this storyline --I can't wait for the bland Theo and his amnesiac girlfriend to be to vanish from my screen and I hope they take Ben with them.

The show kept mentioning Hope but I guess she won't be making an appearance any time soon.  I do like the Claire and Belle scenes and I hope we see more of them interacting with Shawn, Marlena and John--I completely believe their family dynamic.

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Ben: Claire, I thought you were my friend. 

So, we can add gaslighting to his long list of attractive features.

I have to ask anyone here who is a CIN fan: why? Does Ben not raise every single red flag ever? I realize no soap character is without their flaws, but the way he's acted especially since Ciara landed in the hospital is beyond reproach. 

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Gee, Claire, way to trust in your mother.

I was wondering how they were going to get around Hope showing up tomorrow.

Gee, John, way to trust in your daughter.

Bye, Ciara, don't let the door hit you on the way out.

 

 

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7 hours ago, FnkyChkn34 said:

Ah yes, one of the other reasons why I stopped watching a while ago - Xander and Sarah.  The way the actress played that character, as a weird, immature school girl with the baby-talk and the cutesy crap... ugh.  It was completely unwatchable.  How was I really supposed to believe that she was also a highly intelligent doctor??  

I thought the actress was trying to give Sarah dimensions as a character.  It never bothered me as a viewer and I appreciated her efforts in trying to make Sarah distinct. Who says a Doctor can't be neurotic in their private lives.  I miss Lindsey and Sarah. 

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Nice tease days!😡 You had Shawn so earnestly talking about his mother coming back tomorrow and there was Rafe saying how he found her and then that idiot Ciara puts the kibosh on the whole thing for inexplicable ridiculous reasons that she has to escape to a whole Nother continent because she’s afraid of Ben and not even see her mother who has been missing for how long?! And don’t get me started on Theo. Theo is now 100% rid of his autism? And he  is almost as bad as Ben, wisking  her off to another country when he knows she is married. This really needs to be resolved with a psychiatrist and a lawyer etc. etc. not by running away Ciara. I hate you Ciara. You are being an immature idiot.  I actually was looking forward to seeing Hope ( or a facsimile of) tomorrow.

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2 hours ago, kitmerlot1213 said:

Neither Ben or Theo are any type of a good guy in this storyline ...

The problem I have is it seems to me the show wants us to see Theo as wrong for this but see Ben as just a man doing everything he can for the woman he loves and that ain't it lol. And it only makes me root for Theo. But honestly I fast forward all those scenes so it's not like I actually give a shit about Theo, it's just that Ben fucking sucks and I won't let TPTB make me see him as a hero, dammit!

I legit do not remember anything about this episode and I watched it like 3 hours ago.

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Can we discuss how the hell Hope got all the way to Casablanca to look for Ciara? I suppose they needed somewhere far enough away that Shawn had time to call her to tell her not to come. I mean, we already learned "Africa" only has 1 weekly flight to Salem - and Casablanca is in Africa.

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Shaun must be the most easy going guy ever.  His sister says she afraid and Ben tried to stab her with a memory syringe.  Shawn shrugs it off.  I have a brother and that is not they why he would act.   
  Shaun’s wife is arrested for murder and he does not seem surprised.  
 

Also to address something a while back.   I live an apartment the ring in thing has broken for the three years I have lived here.  The door only ever shuts and locks right when you are carrying in groceries.    

Just now, tribeca said:

Shaun must be the most easy going guy ever.  His sister says she afraid and Ben tried to stab her with a memory syringe.  Shawn shrugs it off.  I have a brother and that is not they how  he would act.   
  Shaun’s wife is arrested for murder and he does not seem surprised.  
if I was Ciara I would want to get far away from Ben.  He has been pretty scary lately.  
 

Also to address something a while back.   I live an apartment the ring in thing has broken for the three years I have lived here.  The door only ever shuts and locks right when you are carrying in groceries.    

 

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1 hour ago, RunningMarket said:

Can we discuss how the hell Hope got all the way to Casablanca to look for Ciara? I suppose they needed somewhere far enough away that Shawn had time to call her to tell her not to come. I mean, we already learned "Africa" only has 1 weekly flight to Salem - and Casablanca is in Africa.

I'd like to know why Eric didn't tell Nicole that he ran into Hope.  He must have, I mean,  Since Eric is the savior of Africa and apparently th place has no individual countries and only one city.

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Nicole getting into it with Jan was the most I enjoyed her in ages. A shame they don't share more scenes.

I think Xarah have chemistry but I did find Sarah exhausting to watch and believe Xander is better as a pop up villain than romantic lead. That being said she deserved a better exit than what she was given so I do hope she comes back to at least bring closure to Xander/Sarah.  

I'm find with Hope/Ciara reuniting on screen the show would've found a way to ruin it if Hope was actually here(they might try and stick her with Rafe again or something)

Hope did her time in Rafe Hell let Ava suffer in her place.

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No idea who said this because each post on the site has looked like this for me for over a week.

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but show established all the apparent dwellers are upper class. At least in Chicago and NYC (maybe because of the crime) every building has a buzzer system or doorman. Even dumps in in the projects people have to be buzzed in or go through security 

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Nicole and Jan have a good dynamic. They could sort of be friends, in a weird way.

Ava just cooks? She can't watch the non-existent TV? Not read a book? Play games on a computer? Take some courses to get some skills to get a job? And now has an attraction to Rafe? Um.

So John saw someone wearing Belle's coat but didn't see the face of the woman who shot Charlie. The red coat must mean Belle - if it was a super expensive coat that wasn't in all the malls in Salem. Who would hate Belle enough to frame her?

Both Theo and Ben have stupid plans. Theo, the fantasy is not going to work out.Ciara is technically married to someone else. Surprised that she didn't start divorce proceedings. Did you ever think of calling the South African Consulate for any visa requirements? Ciara can stay 90 days as a tourist. That is it. Anything else requires a visa. You're going to do the 90 The Other Way Girlfriend thing to see if it works out or she gets her memory back? Her mom is in Morocco? Why would the Ciara trail lead there? Vincent has goons? Did she make a pit stop in the Congo to visit Eric? Africa is just a tiny continent the size of a small European country. Shawn Douglas or Hope's parents should be making decisions about Ciara and her treatment. Sure, she can go to South Africa but it is not the best idea.

Ben, listen to Claire and get out of that stupid idea to take Ciara to the cabin so she forcibly gets her memory back. 

 

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I have no trouble with this Theo taking Ciara out of town before she gets her memory back.  Married or not, remember or not,  Theo doesn't have the right to stop her, Ciara is free to do what she wants even if it's dumb.  Especially if it's dumb.  And it almost is dumb.

Remember or not it's hard to argue with someone getting away from their husband the serial killer.  

What gets me with her exit is that even if her memory is bad her self-centeredness and selfishness seems to be intact.  Her mom is ready to fly home and be reunited with her worthless daughter AND be able to celebrate with everyone else who loves her but to hell with that, Ciara is ready to leave NOW.

Ben deserves to kidnap her just to find out how horrible she really is.  They really are a couple who are made for each other.

Hopefully, while Ciara is gone Ben will realize that there's another woman right in front of him who can take Ciara's place, who is almost exactly like her especially in personality.  No not Claire.  Julie!  She's just as annoying, as dumb and as full of herself - Ben should be head over heels in no time.

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7 hours ago, RedElf said:

I was wondering how they were going to get around Hope showing up tomorrow.

Me, too.  I was sure there was going to be a plane crash before the episode ended.  

7 hours ago, Pearson80 said:

It never bothered me as a viewer and I appreciated her efforts in trying to make Sarah distinct. Who says a Doctor can't be neurotic in their private lives.

Agreed.  I wasn't a fan of the baby-talking Sarah but being a doctor doesn't preclude a person from having quirky personality traits.  

2 hours ago, boes said:

Married or not, remember or not,  Theo doesn't have the right to stop her, Ciara is free to do what she wants even if it's dumb.  Especially if it's dumb.  And it almost is dumb.

I'll vote for this, too.  Theo and Ciara have a much longer history than Ciara and Ben, and if I had a friend who had the misfortune of marrying a serial killer, I'd be more than happy to whisk them off to another country while they had amnesia.  

If RSW was skilled performer, I thought his scenes with Claire could have been interesting as a man who's coming undone by the thought of his wife leaving town while hating him.  Marci Miller is killing it as a woman who is struggling with her life seemingly falling apart around her.  

I loved Jan pointing out Nicole's sordid past, and it only reminded me of how much I dislike this sanctimonious version of "reformed" Nicole.  Blech.  

Belle's horror at her own father no believing that she committed murder was lovely.  

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2 hours ago, boes said:

I have no trouble with this Theo taking Ciara out of town before she gets her memory back.  Married or not, remember or not,  Theo doesn't have the right to stop her, Ciara is free to do what she wants even if it's dumb.  Especially if it's dumb.  And it almost is dumb.

Remember or not it's hard to argue with someone getting away from their husband the serial killer.  

What gets me with her exit is that even if her memory is bad her self-centeredness and selfishness seems to be intact.  Her mom is ready to fly home and be reunited with her worthless daughter AND be able to celebrate with everyone else who loves her but to hell with that, Ciara is ready to leave NOW.

 

THIS. People keep talking about Theo taking advantage of her, but how exactly is he doing that? Ciara may have memory loss, but she's not brain damaged in such a way that she can't make conscious choices for herself, including where she wants to live or who she wants to be with. She knows she's missing a few years of her life, she knows she is married, and she doesn't care. Theo's not "letting" her do anything or forcing her in any way. Theo has talked about her being married, he's asked about the potential of her getting her memory back and wanting Ben again and she wants to live in the now. Is that the most mature way to go about things? No. But it's her stupid decision to make. And Theo knows he's facing potential heartbreak. If he wants to roll the dice on that, it's up to him.

Theo's the only one really acting sane here. Yes, he wasn't around to witness the grand ferocity of an epic love such as Cin's, and he is coming from a place of selfishness because he wants a shot with her, but I still approve of anyone not being gung-ho to see their friend go back to a serial killer, especially if she's actively telling him that's not what she wants. 

I marginally like Ciara better like this because it has always been absurd that she fell for a serial killer, but yes, she is still so obnoxious and spoiled. I seriously wanted Justin to wring her neck the other day when she threw attitude that he and the rest of her family were totally cool with letting her marry a serial killer. He should have refreshed her memory - forcefully - that she was a huge witch to anyone who tried to talk sense into her about her choice of significant other. She's basically acting the same way now - instead of whining/yelling at people for not singing her serial killer boyfriend's praises, she's whining/yelling at them for singing her serial killer husband's praises to her.

It was incredibly selfish of her to stop Hope from coming home. Like Shawn said, she could meet up with Theo later. There was a lot of other family Hope could have spent time with/been reunited with other than Ciara by coming home. I get her wanting Ben to stay away, but she may have some memory loss, but did she forgot restraining orders exist?

It is a little odd that with how vehement she is about not wanting to be with Ben, not a single person has brought up divorce. Maybe they're trying to set-up subconsciously she still loves him so she doesn't want to sever their relationship. Or maybe they just want it to be dramatic when she serves him with papers off-screen in a few weeks? Or maybe she'll mention it before she leaves. Who knows.

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Spoilers are not allowed in this thread. Period. Any posts that include spoilers (and casting information qualifies) will be removed. There are several other threads that allow spoilers so take that discussion to one of them.

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