The First 48 - General Discussion

[Enero]

I was pleasantly surprised to see Atlanta as one of the new cities this season. I know that the show was in Dekalb County a couple of seasons ago but local government squashed continuous filming because they felt it negatively reflected on the county,

Anyway, glad to see them in Atlanta. The detectives seem way more engaging than the ones in Dekalb.

Regarding tonight's cases, I stepped out of the room and missed the resolution to the case about the woman who was killed by her boyfriend. Did they catch him?

Edited January 23, 2015 by Enero

[glow]

He was surrounded and committed suicide

Edited January 23, 2015 by glow

[Enero]

He was surrounded and committed suicide

Argh! Freakin coward. I feel terrible for her family. I wonder if she knew he'd done prison time for killing a previous girlfriend? Very sad.

Thanks for the info on the resolution.

[Brooklynista]

Argh! Freakin coward. I feel terrible for her family. I wonder if she knew he'd done prison time for killing a previous girlfriend? Very sad.

Thanks for the info on the resolution.

 

I dont want to get off topic, but I think a lot of women DO know about the prison records of these men.  She isn't the first victim of a man who just finished serving time.  I'll never understand that.  Why would I think a man who has shown he has a violent nature towards women somehow not act violently against me?

 

Something about a Bad Boy  just blinds some women.  I just couldnt imagine bringing a  killer around my family.

Edited January 23, 2015 by Brooklynista

[Enero]

Yeah I think they know they've been to prison but do they know they've gone for killing, especially an ex girlfriend.

I can see someone getting envolved with a man whose served time. I wouldn't. But I can see some women giving the man a chance if they thought he'd just been in trouble for drugs or robbery. However it's difficult to fathom a woman getting involved with a man knowing he'd murdered his last girlfriend.

[auntjess]

I don't think her family probably knew this though, as she'd probably kept it from them.
 

[Toaster Strudel]

There was a lot of of meth heads in the stripper murder.  I'll bet that she was supporting all their habits. 

[TresGatos]

The young woman who was planning her wedding was so sad when they showed her Countdown to the Wedding list and her receipt from David's Bridal.

[Enero]

Did anyone catch After The First 48 this past week? It was about the case with the heroin addict in Buffalo, NY., who was killed by his wife and her boyfriend.

I cannot believe she only got 15 years. She should've been in prison for life just like the guy who killed her husband. She was a cold blooded piece of work and if it wasn't for her the husband wouldn't have been killed in the first place.

Also, my heart broke for the poor man's parents. Having both their children with substance abuse issues with one ending up murdered and the other committing suicide was just sad.

Edited March 9, 2015 by Enero

[Soobs]

She held his hand on the way to having him murdered. She's eligible for parole in 2017. Just as a public safety issue, she shouldn't be walking around that soon. I felt terrible for the parents too. They seemed like good, caring people.

[Soobs]

G-O-A-T-S. This show rarely makes me laugh, but this was actually pretty funny.

[auntjess]

I don't remember an original to the After the first 48 this week, and it was pretty recent.
This is the one where the husband killed the wife, and her whole family suspected him from the beginning.

[NJ RadioGuy]

This was one of, I think, 3 or 4 cases in which the perp ends up with a death sentence. I'm actually quite surprised that his defence team didn't make an issue of trying to plead out to LWOP. There was obviously something wrong inside that guy's head and it was all spur-of-the-moment, not planned and calculated.

[auntjess]

Yes, and in some cases, I'm shocked at the light sentences.

[etexlady]

I love The First 48.  I think I have seen every episode since the beginning and I still record a lot of them to watch again.  If the rest of the Atlanta detectives are as tenacious as Det. Benton, the criminals don't stand a chance.  She is intense and relentless.  I wonder why the show has not featured cities in the western states?  I recall they had a few stories in Arizona but cannot remember if there were any others.

[auntjess]

I see an occasional repeat  from either Phoenix or Tucson.
My favorites are the cops in Cleveland, maybe because I've seen them so often I feel familiar with them.  I especially like the ones who retired, Everett and Smith, and I think Sowa has retired too.
 

[auntjess]

So we seem to have a season of repackaged and resorted episodes, with new comments added.

If the person from the show is still here, please explain.

[auntieminem]

So we seem to have a season of repackaged and resorted episodes, with new comments added.

If the person from the show is still here, please explain.

My guide shows new episodes tonight but they are repeats.  

[NJ RadioGuy]

Any word on when actual new episodes start running or if any new cities are coming up?

 

I was a big Nate Sowa fan since I'm a fellow cigar smoker. I've known murder police to smoke cigars at the scene when a body is ripe, to help kill the smell a bit, but he just liked his stogies :). I think my absolute favourite is Tom Armelli. If I ever go 10-7 under mysterious circumstances I'd like him to take the lead. Also love the Dallas guys, and Minneapolis' Rick Zimmerman.

[Rippin]

Tulsa actually averages 60-70 homicides a year, roughly the same homicide rate as Indianapolis, if not higher than Indianapolis.

The Tulsa homicide detective unit is probably the best in the country. 89% clearance rate - be it cleared by arrest or conviction - is elite for any big city.

I, too, would like to know what's up with the delay in airing season 16 episodes. I imagine season 15 has already completed and they are just throwing us these common themed episodes (they are re-runs) on Mondays and Thursday's until they're ready to air the new season 16 episodes.

[Thomo74]

One case that's always sticks in my head was one that involved a young white couple that went missing. When the detectives finally searched the house they found the couple dead and hidden in the walls of their house. If I remember correctly they determined it was a uncle that had killed the couple? The uncle was also fairly young.

The thing that stuck with me was the father of the uncle was going to turn the son in but somewhere along the way the detectives found the father killed the son. A murder suicide on the way to turn him in. It seemed like a made for TV movie it was so tragic and bizarre.

Four people dead and i don't think the reason for the original murder was ever discovered.

ETA: thanks it was season 5 episode 1. Family Secrets

[Thomo74]

Hi there,

I myself, remember this episode. It is driving me crazy, trying to find it!

The episode that was suggested, family secrets, is not correct.

I have searched and searched for it.

It is as though it has been removed. A & E have no mention of it

On their First 48, season/episode guide.

Have you tried looking for the episode yourself?

I agree that it was around season 5, but it is not there??

Any chance you know why this is??

[Toaster Strudel]

When is the next season starting?  I don't want to miss it!

[NJ RadioGuy]

Just saw a promo during this afternoon's reruns: Thursday, November 5th; same day as season 2 of Nightwatch begins. My Thursday nights are about to become interesting once more. I couldn't determine what cities were being featured this year, however.

[sara416]

Does anyone know of an episode listing for the marathon? I can scroll through my guide but that takes forever. 

[auntjess]

Which one are you looking for?
In U-verse, if you find one, click on the info button, you get a "more showtimes" option, which will list all the upcoming ones.
It may no include those with a different title, like First 48: The Detectives Speak, or such.
You can also go the the A&E schedule. http://www.aetv.com/schedule

[magicman]

Did anyone watch the new episode on Thursday, "The House on Madrona Street"? I like it when they focus on only one case, and this one was horrifying and creepy from beginning to end. The suspect, Ardentric Johnson, was one cold, scary dude. That lady who was walking her dog and refused to go with him was lucky to be alive. 

 

 

I couldn't determine what cities were being featured this year, however.

Looks like this season will be featuring Atlanta, Tulsa, and New Orleans. 

[Toaster Strudel]

That was an amazing episode.  I noticed that they changed how they edit the show to make it less choppy, and more cinematic.  I like this change!  Please bring back random stray cat shots though... they are legend!

[auntjess]

I thought it was a great episode too, and I think the flow was because there was only case.

I do like Summer Benton.

[Enero]

That was an amazing episode.  I noticed that they changed how they edit the show to make it less choppy, and more cinematic.  I like this change!  Please bring back random stray cat shots though... they are legend!

Just caught up on the new season and I agree. I've found that all the cases in Atlanta have been interesting. The detectives seem relatable too. Some of them I recognize from news conferences, specifically the ones that worked the 'serial killer' case and the case with guy who killed the two women and left them in the abandoned house to rot.

I cannot stand the Tulsa detectives. Calling potential witnesses, crackheads and comparing the neighborhood they working to Al Qaeda was a huge turn off for me. I was so annoyed I couldn't finish the episode about the prostitute that had been killed and left in the bushes.

[sunsheyen]

Formatting error edit

Edited December 6, 2015 by sunsheyen

[sunsheyen]

Hi there,

I myself, remember this episode. It is driving me crazy, trying to find it!

The episode that was suggested, family secrets, is not correct.

I have searched and searched for it.

It is as though it has been removed. A & E have no mention of it

On their First 48, season/episode guide.

Have you tried looking for the episode yourself?

I agree that it was around season 5, but it is not there??

Any chance you know why this is??

Season 4 episode 20 "Family secrets; Clipped"

First aired 1/11/07, last Aired 11/18/15 it was a Memphis case, I'm watching it now.

[MitaJo]

Tonight's episode, "Knock, Knock", is eerily similar to that Zola story that was on Twitter a couple of months ago. Not an exact retelling, but I could not stop comparing the two, with the one girl working as an escort, her boyfriend acting as the pimp, meeting some strange girl and inviting her to join them.

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3294396/Zola-s-story-Stripper-s-Twitter-tale-trip-Florida-prostitute-suicidal-boyfriend-pimp-wanted-murder-grabs-attention-Selma-director.html

[sara416]

I'm watching an old one called Final Investment/Writing on the Wall and the one person who was murdered was a homeless man who was part of a documentary on homelessness. My first thought was that it was actually an episode of Intervention (my all time favorite A&E show!) but I am curious about what this documentary actually was. Does anyone know?

[auntjess]

That Tulsa episode, House of Cards, was unbelievable.
I'd heard that meth makes people paranoid, but this guy had his mother sitting on the roof as a lookout, 'cause the Mexican cartel was coming after them.
She must have been on it too, to climb up there.

[auntjess]

No more New Orleans shows, and big problem that a case may have been compromised.
http://www.nola.com/tv/index.ssf/2016/06/new_orleans_first_48_nightwatch_38271.html

[sunsheyen]

I will really miss the NO segments. I enjoy the detectives of NOPD. I will miss NIghtwatch even more than the guys on First 48. 

[Brooklynista]

Ah, that sucks.  I was developing quite the crush on Det. Robert Barrere.  Loved his style of wearing a shirt and tie with a hoodie over it.  It said I'm professional, but I'm also a little bit chilly.  His dislike of Mardi Gras and it's floats and beads amused me as well.

[sunsheyen]

1 hour ago, Brooklynista said:

Ah, that sucks.  I was developing quite the crush on Det. Robert Barrere.  Loved his style of wearing a shirt and tie with a hoodie over it.  It said I'm professional, but I'm also a little bit chilly.  His dislike of Mardi Gras and it's floats and beads amused me as well.

I love him with his little old-young looking self.

[Enero]

NOLA had some of the most brutal murder cases ever featured on the show, most especially female murder victims IMHO. Though I will miss the NOLA detectives maybe this is for the best, especially if the filming was starting to compromise cases. 

 

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That Tulsa episode, House of Cards, was unbelievable.
I'd heard that meth makes people paranoid, but this guy had his mother sitting on the roof as a lookout, 'cause the Mexican cartel was coming after them.
She must have been on it too, to climb up there.

Yes. That case was insane. But again, the Tulsa detectives are complete assholes. A witness tells them who did the killing and how the guy was running things and the detective responds that there was no way the suspect was a harden gangster because he was a 20 year old white kid. He literally said that. Argh. 

I've heard Oklahoma is not as progressive as other cities when it comes to race relations and this is proven to be correct every time a case from there is featured. 

Edited June 6, 2016 by Enero

[JenMcSnark]

On 6/6/2016 at 0:01 PM, Enero said:

NOLA had some of the most brutal murder cases ever featured on the show, most especially female murder victims IMHO. Though I will miss the NOLA detectives maybe this is for the best, especially if the filming was starting to compromise cases. 

 

Yes. That case was insane. But again, the Tulsa detectives are complete assholes. A witness tells them who did the killing and how the guy was running things and the detective responds that there was no way the suspect was a harden gangster because he was a 20 year old white kid. He literally said that. Argh. 

I've heard Oklahoma is not as progressive as other cities when it comes to race relations and this is proven to be correct every time a case from there is featured. 

I didn't take it that way at all.  If it was racial, they would have just easily pinned it on the black kid who confessed!  I took it as the crazy meth-heads were making this dufus-looking white kid who looked no more than 12 out to be a major player in the drug game who basically runs cartels and has them after him.  The cop was scoffing at that as was I. 

The cop was correct that none of that was true.  He was just a stupid wannabe gangster poser who killed someone to convince others he was a "badass".  

Edited June 9, 2016 by JenMcSnark
Just to make clear that Oklahoma is certainly not progressive as a whole. I agree with that.

[Enero]

On 6/8/2016 at 10:03 PM, JenMcSnark said:

I didn't take it that way at all.  If it was racial, they would have just easily pinned it on the black kid who confessed!  I took it as the crazy meth-heads were making this dufus-looking white kid who looked no more than 12 out to be a major player in the drug game who basically runs cartels and has them after him.  The cop was scoffing at that as was I. 

The cop was correct that none of that was true.  He was just a stupid wannabe gangster poser who killed someone to convince others he was a "badass".  

I get this, but my issue with his statement was that he prefaced it by saying there was no way a WHITE kid would be or do XYZ.

If he'd just said 'there's no way John Doe did this' or 'are you trying to tell me John Doe did this?' and scoffed, then I would've been more inclined to believe that what I perceived was unfounded, but the specific statement about the suspects race is what made me think otherwise. 

[JenMcSnark]

10 hours ago, Enero said:

I get this, but my issue with his statement was that he prefaced it by saying there was no way a WHITE kid would be or do XYZ.

If he'd just said 'there's no way John Doe did this' or 'are you trying to tell me John Doe did this?' and scoffed, then I would've been more inclined to believe that what I perceived was unfounded, but the specific statement about the suspects race is what made me think otherwise. 

But, IMO, he didn't say "a" white kid would be blah blah.  He said or implied "that" white kid in particular.  That's not racial to me.  But mileage varies I guess. 

[mythoughtis]

I will also miss the NO segments.  I liked those officers.  Of course, I like most of the officers in most of the segments.  I will admit that I sometimes wondered if what came out of the officer's mouths (not so much in New Orleans) during interrogations was a good idea. Sometimes their tempers get the best of them, and I would think that would be something a defense attorney could exploit.  I do not however think that we have seen any of them cross the line into abuse of power. I also think most of these detectives have a good feel for which suspects are capable of being masterminds, and which aren't.  They deal with some of the same suspects over and over again.  It seems to me that most of these murders occur in one of a few situations: robbery, drug related, gang related.... or stupid stuff over what color shirt someone wore.  

Edited June 22, 2016 by mythoughtis

[Toaster Strudel]

Last night's murder with 2 teenagers finding their mother dead in a car was horrifying. 

Sadly the women did herself no favors by continuing to accept weekly flowers and "gifts" for years for a man for whom he had no interest in loving back.  Judge Judy always warns people against taking from people under those circumstances.

[Soobs]

On 6/24/2016 at 7:50 AM, Toaster Strudel said:

Last night's murder with 2 teenagers finding their mother dead in a car was horrifying. 

Sadly the women did herself no favors by continuing to accept weekly flowers and "gifts" for years for a man for whom he had no interest in loving back.  Judge Judy always warns people against taking from people under those circumstances.

I wonder if she thought it was safer to accept the gifts to placate the guy. Her co-worker was rolling her eyes when telling how the guy would bring her lunch all the time but I wonder if she was caught up in the cycle of abuse and felt stuck. She didn't report the rape even though she reported the assault. That means something.  Of course she isn't here to explain her actions. I can't imagine being 10 or 14 and finding your mom dead and naked. How will they ever build a normal life after this? Horrible. Those poor boys seemed like sad, old men.

Edited June 26, 2016 by Soobs

[auntjess]

On ‎6‎/‎21‎/‎2016 at 9:16 PM, mythoughtis said:

It seems to me that most of these murders occur in one of a few situations: robbery, drug related, gang related.... or stupid stuff over what color shirt someone wore.  

And that was gang related, in that the victim, from out of town, happened to be wearing a red shirt, which was the color of a rival gang.
If they didn't all have instant access to a gun, they could punch each other around, then cool off, or at least go off to lick their wounds.

[wait.what]

I am new to this series. ( where have I been?)

Can't always remember who is from which state, but I really like Rayell?Atlanta and Ritter?Tulsa. 

Anyway, back to binge watching. 

[auntjess]

Welcome.
I like most all of the cops, but the Cleveland ones are my favorites, way back toMel Smith and Wally Everett, since retired I think.

[auntjess]

I'm wondering if the chopped up episodes come from editing the New Orleans ones.  They showed a short NO episode, but separately, not a part of an hour episode.
Strange.