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Yesterday Parker was next to the Christmas tree while Sophie was underneath it, chewing on a branch. Mr Gunderson shook the water bottle at Sophie (just shaking it is enough at this point) and poor Parker got scared by the sound. She jumped up, then hunched down, took a couple of steps forward, then ran around in a small circle because she didn’t know which way to go. She must have made 3 revolutions before she stopped, facing the same direction as she started with a confused look on her face. I cry-laughed for about two minutes as she went from confused, to embarrassed, then to a death glare before stalking off. I did not apologize, because it was the funniest thing I have seen in a while.

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On 12/19/2020 at 12:10 AM, Gramto6 said:

Well that scared me for about 30 seconds...since I am in the Northern Hemisphere and temps are below freezing nightly, so not going to happen here. One of my ferrals is really domesticated and when I go out to  feed the birds it will rub my legs and tries every time to come in the house. I want nothing more than to scoop this kitty up and love it forever but I don't know what kind of "critters/vermin" are living on it that I don't want in my home. I am going to call my vet on Monday and see if I can take it in to be checked out and pretty sure it will go into  a carrier, get it neutered/vaccinated/cleaned. It is the sweetest kitty. And if I can get this one inside maybe I can get other orange one in too. I think they are siblings but orange is very skittish. One step at a time.

do you have outdoor shelter for the strays? I thought about getting one for neighbors cats that they let live outside. 😒

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10 hours ago, Nicmar said:

do you have outdoor shelter for the strays? I thought about getting one for neighbors cats that they let live outside. 😒

They seem to favor living under my front deck up close to the house. I live in a mobile home and the heating vents run under the home so I assume they cuddle up to the walls and get radiated heat. They are thriving, I feel bad they are outside, but they all are very fluffy and bright eyed and man do they eat a lot!! 16# of dry food and more than 24 tins of wet food in about 6 weeks...yeah I spoil the 3 of them. 🐱

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8 hours ago, Bastet said:

I know a couple of people who love these Kitty Tubes for their ferals.  Alley Cat Allies rates various options.  And here's some information about what to look for/create in an outdoor shelter.

Thanks for the links. So far they are all doing well and all 3 seem to congregate under the deck so it must be a warm cuddly spot. I will spread a tarp over the part they seem to like to keep in whatever heat they get there in. So far they all are thriving.  Just bought another ton of food for them!🐯 

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Quirk has discovered the kitchen, which includes the pantry, and the kitchen chairs, and the window that looks over the birdbath (also known as Food TV).  She seems to want to live on the kitchen chairs for a while, so I moved her litterbox into the pantry and her food dishes to the shelf where Snip used to eat.  Things are slowly getting more normal around here.  She's also discovered that getting her ears scritched is pretty OK.

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I love the shot where he's running towards you with the ball in his mouth!  So gleeful in all those photos by the water, but then so serious by the lighthouse.

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I tried to take a Christmas picture of Norm while he was sitting on my lap. He was smiling, the lights and stockings on the fireplace behind him. It was a perfect picture. 
 

He did not cooperate...

 

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14 hours ago, Moose135 said:

Got to run and chase a ball around, although the "fetch" part still needs some work - we got a work out retrieving the ball after he would chase after it then return without it.

That's what my cats do. One of them at least chases the ball and kicks it around a bit and then sitting down beside it. The other just runs in the general direction of where the ball flies. And yes, I have to go and retrieve.... Neither of them comes back however.

21st century cats:

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Kids today.  Too glued to their electronic devices to play some good ol' pitch and catch.

One of my late "nephews" (friend's cat) would play an extended game of fetch, but every other cat in my life has looked at me like, "What am I, a dog?  If I'm in the mood when you feel the urge to hurl a little ball across the room, I play with it at its landing point; if you want to throw it again, you come pick it up and throw it somewhere else.  Lather, rinse, repeat, until I am bored."

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Shlamey would skewer her mouse with her claws, sit up on her butt, reach back and throw her mouse and run get it and come back to the same spot drop the mouse from her mouth and do the whole thing over again.

When she first did this, thinking to be helpful, I picked up the mouse and threw it.  She put her front paws on the ground, whipped her head around to look at me, and without moving her head after that, cut her eyes between me and the mouse down the hall several times, as if to say, You threw it, YOU go get it".

So, she played solitary games of fetch from then on.

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Yeah, we get the, "You go get it" thing, too, from our cats :p. Either that or, on the occasions when they do run after a toy, they...run right past it, and then look around all confused like, "Wait, where'd it go?" 

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19 hours ago, Moose135 said:

GF and I are in the Outer Banks for the week. Today, we took Jake to the beach for the first time. He loved it! Got to run and chase a ball around, although the "fetch" part still needs some work - we got a work out retrieving the ball after he would chase after it then return without it.

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I think he has some Great White Shark in him. 😄 What a happy puppers!

The kitten-cat plays fetch. He'll bring a ball when he wants to play and then play until he's done. The cat-cat will chase after a ball but doesn't get the bring it back to me. Once in awhile I'll toss a stuffed toy, he'll grab it and run off to kill his prey.

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I have had two, yes two fetching cats in my life.  My first, Honey Bear, loved when I would flip a hair elastic across the room.  She would run after it, then proudly prance back with it in her teeth, drop it in my lap or at my feet, and await the next fling.

Next was Onyx.  She's one of my current girls.  Before she began to fail from her numerous issues, she would chase a crunchy yarn ball, or a soft yarn ball (about golf ball sized), or a rattle mouse, however far I could fling them.  Her favorite game was chasing it down the steps to the basement, only to tear back up with it in her mouth.  She would drag her Cat Dancer pole toy into whichever room I was in, so that I would flip it around for her.  This cat loved, loved, loved to play.  It breaks my heart to see her really unable to do so anymore.  I'll always have cat tower mouse baseball.  She would perch on the top curve, hunker down and wait for me to "pitch" the mouse, whereby she would bat it back.  Rarely did it go in my direction but still.  Truth be told, I think she was actually trying to catch the mouse one-handed, but I choose to believe we were playing mouse baseball.

Here she is with her favorite Cat Dancer toy, after a particularly rambunctious session.

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My late Baby Boo played fetch just like a dog when he was younger.  I'd toss crumpled paper, he would chase it and proudly bring it back to me.  Later he had a rubber "bouncy ball" that he loved It disappeared somewhere under something and I couldn't for the life of me find it. He used to sit in front of the stove ofen towards the end ... have had a mouse or two under there so thought that was what he was after. Almost a year after he passed I was doing a deep clean and way in the back under the stove was "bouncy ball!". I cried and felt guilty I didn't find it for him. To this day it sits on the windowsill with a couple other of his favorite toys I can't part with. He passed just before Christmas at 12.5 years old in 2018 and my heart still misses him.

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16 hours ago, Gramto6 said:

Later he had a rubber "bouncy ball" that he loved It disappeared somewhere under something and I couldn't for the life of me find it. He used to sit in front of the stove ofen towards the end ... have had a mouse or two under there so thought that was what he was after. Almost a year after he passed I was doing a deep clean and way in the back under the stove was "bouncy ball!". I cried and felt guilty I didn't find it for him.

I experienced something quite similar; my cat Maddie's favorite toy was - wait for it - a plastic cap that had covered a soap dispenser.  It was larger than most, and she batted it around, carried it with her (always meowing as she did), and brought it to bed with us numerous times.  Being a cat toy, it would often go missing and I'd have to figure out which piece of furniture it was under/behind.

I spent her final months periodically looking for Plastic Cap and just could not find it.  Mere days after she died, I moved a loveseat in preparation for shampooing the carpet, and there it was, just out of sight (I hadn't thought there was room under there, so I had just looked behind it, not moved it to check under).  It was in a little pile of her fur that also had a whisker in it.  I burst into tears.  But then I smiled, because I realized she'd known where it was all along, and even though she didn't have the energy to play with it like she used to, she'd cuddle with it back there.

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The late great Kitty Gunderson the Elder had favorite toys (all mouse-shaped) and her favorite one was a pink mouse with tiny multi-colored dots and yellow ears that we nicknamed Sprinkles. She loved that mouse! We couldn’t find it for months and thought it was lost. One day I went out onto my front steps to get the mail and there was Sprinkles, on the ground next to a bush. I have no idea how it got out there, as the cats were both indoor only. I brought it in, wiped it off (it was remarkably clean for being outdoors in the spring), and gave it back to Kitty Gunderson who was very pleased. When she passed we gathered up her special toys to save, and Sprinkles was on the top of the pile. 

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We saved a toy that our first cat loved, too, after she passed. It had some kind of a face that looked like that of a bunny, but then it was just this long green and yellow-striped bit attached to it, with a little white ball at the end. I'm not sure exactly what it was supposed to be.

But man, she loved that thing. She'd clutch it in her paws and lick it, like she was giving it a bath or something, and she'd cuddle by it sometimes and all that sort of thing :). My mom's got it stored away somewhere now.

And yeah, we lose a lot of kitty toys around here, too. I've lost count of the amount of times we've found them under the couch or behind some shelf or something, and this past weekend, one of the new toys we got our cats went under the stove. When my mom went to retrieve it, she found a whole bunch of other toys that somehow wound up under there. 

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On 12/29/2020 at 3:36 PM, Bastet said:

I experienced something quite similar; my cat Maddie's favorite toy was - wait for it - a plastic cap that had covered a soap dispenser.  It was larger than most, and she batted it around, carried it with her (always meowing as she did), and brought it to bed with us numerous times.  Being a cat toy, it would often go missing and I'd have to figure out which piece of furniture it was under/behind.

I spent her final months periodically looking for Plastic Cap and just could not find it.  Mere days after she died, I moved a loveseat in preparation for shampooing the carpet, and there it was, just out of sight (I hadn't thought there was room under there, so I had just looked behind it, not moved it to check under).  It was in a little pile of her fur that also had a whisker in it.  I burst into tears.  But then I smiled, because I realized she'd known where it was all along, and even though she didn't have the energy to play with it like she used to, she'd cuddle with it back there.

Little Mama has a deflated "kicker" knotted fleece toy that she walks around with occasionally and meows while she carries it around. It's so funny! She's otherwise pretty quiet.

I kept a shoebox with Bilgisticat's and his late older "sister's" most-loved toys. I don't know where the box went when I moved, but I know I still have it. I also have some of their whiskers they'd shed that I'd find here and there, and those are in a box with their cremains.

I keep my girls' whiskers in a jar when I find them and my boyfriend thinks it's so weird. It's just like shedding fur or hair. People keep a lock of their kid's first haircut and their baby teeth! I know I will be glad I collected them, as I was with my late cats' whiskers. Theirs were white but my current cats' whiskers are all black.

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On 12/29/2020 at 4:30 PM, bilgistic said:

I keep my girls' whiskers in a jar when I find them and my boyfriend thinks it's so weird. It's just like shedding fur or hair. People keep a lock of their kid's first haircut and their baby teeth! I know I will be glad I collected them, as I was with my late cats' whiskers. Theirs were white but my current cats' whiskers are all black.

LOL, we cat parents are a sentimental bunch. I too have a baggie of whiskers from Boo and some of his nail sheds and a few clumps of fur. It sits under the tin with his cremains in it. Which still sits on his favorite blanket on his favorite chair.  I live alone (3 ferals that I feed outside) it makes me smile when I think of him sleeping there.

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Jake loves the beach, but he's not so sure about the waves.

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It dawned on my why Jake will chase after a ball, but doesn't always bring it back - Aussies aren't retrievers, they are herding dogs. He chases down the ball, and gets it under control. Once it stops moving, his work is done. It's not his job to bring it back!

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On 12/25/2020 at 2:58 PM, Moose135 said:

Jake loves his new stuffed fren Sebastian!

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I love Sebastian and Jake (and the site I think? Sebastian is from)

My mom got me a cute pillow from LL Bean that had a black dog that “looks” like Knox once did before she became gray. She promptly de- knitted (if that’s a word) the upper right hand corner at 10 years old. 

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On 12/30/2020 at 11:29 PM, Moose135 said:

It dawned on my why Jake will chase after a ball, but doesn't always bring it back - Aussies aren't retrievers, they are herding dogs. He chases down the ball, and gets it under control. Once it stops moving, his work is done. It's not his job to bring it back!

Whenever I see pictures of your dog at the beach it reminds me of that mid 70s tearjerker of a song Shannon - Henry Gross.

Interesting info about that song.

Story about the song.

Lyrics and chords.

Song.

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And of course who can forget this tearjerker of a song that also came out in the mid seventies Wildfire - Michael Martin Murphey.  Tells a story about a woman and her horse.

Lyrics.

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I was going to sneak up on Quirk while she was napping yesterday, and try to trim a couple of her front claws.  She foiled me by not napping.  There were about 40 sparrows in the back yard and she was fascinated.

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I have been the cat claw trimmer of record for every cat that has ever owned me, and I can tell you that in my experience, they have never gotten used to it to the point where they don't fuss and squirm to get away.  My current two have been getting my mani/pedi treatments for nearly 15 years now, with about a 99.999% pain free success rate, but it's still a bit of a wrestling match, lol.  I flip them on their backs and sort of wedge them between my hip and the arm of the chair, and make quick work of it, all the while reminding them what a good mommy I am for not declawing them like the "good old days."  They're not having it.

It's still less hassle than putting them in a carrier and taking them somewhere to pay to have it done.  Their love of car riding is even less than their love of mani/pedis.

 

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Lily will let me do hers.  She starts purring and rubbing her face on the clippers, and falls over in my lap, and that's that.  Snip would only let me if I gave her a happy pill first, and even then I'd do a couple, wait ten minutes, do another couple, wait another ten minutes, etc.

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2 minutes ago, EighteenTwelve said:

Lily will let me do hers.  She starts purring and rubbing her face on the clippers, and falls over in my lap, and that's that.  Snip would only let me if I gave her a happy pill first, and even then I'd do a couple, wait ten minutes, do another couple, wait another ten minutes, etc.

Wow.  Lily was a unicorn.

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Lily has no right being as tolerant as she is.  The only thing I can't do is pick her up and hold her, because when I do that, she gets stuffed in a carrier and either left in the bathroom for the house-call vet, or taken to the vet hospital.  Both of which she'd really rather not, thank you.

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46 minutes ago, EighteenTwelve said:

I was going to sneak up on Quirk while she was napping yesterday, and try to trim a couple of her front claws.  She foiled me by not napping.  There were about 40 sparrows in the back yard and she was fascinated.

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I love her little feet!

My girls act like I'm murdering them when I clip their nails. I've done it every couple months or so for over three years now and every time, drama!

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My cat Lily was fine with having her claws clipped and she loved her cat carrier. If it was out and open, she’d climb in and take a nap. Even after I would bring her back from the vet (which she disliked), she would hang out in her carrier if I didn’t put it away. 
 

The new cats are okay with having their nails clipped, which is so nice. Sophie is better about it than Parker. Parker is improving, but still wiggles and make pitiful sounds (all for show). A few cat treats and all is forgiven. Their nails grow so quickly so I’m glad they are relatively easy to clip.

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2 hours ago, EighteenTwelve said:

I was going to sneak up on Quirk while she was napping yesterday, and try to trim a couple of her front claws.  She foiled me by not napping.  There were about 40 sparrows in the back yard and she was fascinated.

I was told by my vet to give my cat a couple of calming chews before taking the cat to the vet to get his nails trimmed.  He really hates to have his nails trimmed.   When I try to mess with his feet he bites.

The other cat is a snack hog.   He lets me trim his nails knowing he will get some cat snacks when I am done.

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I've never had a cat whose claws I couldn't trim.  Some made it harder than others, but never to the point I couldn't do it, thankfully.

Maddie and Baxter both let me do their mani-pedis with no objections during, but after his was done, Baxter always had to go "attack" his sister to prove he was still ferocious even without his talons (no, he wasn't, he never was, but she indulged him).  Riley used to freak out, twist herself into a pretzel, and try to open my femoral artery, but I got it done, and it's pretty smooth sailing now - she mostly just goes limp (Civil Disobedience Kitty - her mommy taught her well).

I usually do Bandit and Chester's (my parents' cats) claw trims because, while all they do is verbally fuss and maybe squirm a little, I can still get it done quicker than my mom (my dad is hopeless at this task).

I used to do my friend's cat's claws, because the cat tolerated it fine from me but fussed for her, but between the pandemic and her moving about half an hour away, she's been on her own.  The cat has to go in pretty regularly for blood tests, so she just has a vet tech do it then rather than messing with it herself.

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To be honest, you all are mystifying me! I have had lots of cats over the last 45 years and have never even thought about trimming their claws - why would this be necessary? (No, my cats do NOT scratch the furniture - any of them that ever showed an inclination to do that were hit with some water from a spray bottle and quickly figured out it wasn't worth getting wet.) They (the cats) usually sharpened their claws on wood outside (either actual trees or wood being used as fencing, or garden borders, or whatever) and/or I provide a cat clawing device of some sort inside suitably primed with cat nip. Would someone here explain why you would need to do this? Thanks!!

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In our case, the first cat we had, as well as our current ones, were declawed for the most part by whomever had them before us. Our first cat did have a remnant of her claws on one of her back paws, but she also had a bad leg from some incident with a dog, I think it was, so the people who declawed her apparently decided to leave the paw on that leg alone. 

And one of our current ones still has a bit of claw on her back paws, too, but we keep them trimmed enough to where it's not really an issue much of the time. Why the people who had her last only declawed her front paws, I don't know.

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I've had some who never needed their claws trimmed, but some still have pretty long claws even with the scratching they do (which then sometimes get caught in blankets, screens, etc.).  And some have very sharp claws, which I'd rather not have poked into my body during cuddles. 

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6 hours ago, EighteenTwelve said:

I was going to sneak up on Quirk while she was napping yesterday, and try to trim a couple of her front claws.  She foiled me by not napping.  There were about 40 sparrows in the back yard and she was fascinated.

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I trim Lily's claws because she likes to knead on my arm while I'm in bed and I'd rather not get punctured when she does.  Snip grew massive daggers that got stuck in the rugs and the laundry and the bedding and all that, but she did not want them messed with.

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