S14.E01: Grace Time Is Over

[njbchlover]

11 hours ago, Keywestclubkid said:

it goes to show that no matter how much money you do have and how much "fame" or how connected you are you can still be trash with no manners or common sense .. like what kinda person thinks pulling out your hair at a party with other guest is acceptable .. like excuse yourself go to the bathroom dont do it at the table .. its trash behavior

Totally....to be honest, out of the three sisters, I really think that Kyle probably has the most "learned class".  People may perceive Kathy as some kind of grand, proper lady, but I think she's just a tacky person who had the good fortune to marry up into the Hilton name/money.  From what I've read, Kathy and Rick weren't super classy in their younger days.  Kim, well, she never could be considered classy because she's struggled much of her life with on-again, off-again substance abuse.

Trash, even in a designer trash bag is still trash.....

Edited Yest. at 01:21 AM by njbchlover

[RealHousewife]

Did anyone else watch the after show? You could tell Erika doesn't see Dorit as the bad guy the way Kyle does, but she felt pressure to indulge Kyle's victim act.

I just can't believe Kyle said that Dorit showing her texts tying to silence her were the "lowest thing she ever saw on the show." Really, Kyle, really? I generally agree that texts between friends should remain between friends, but Dorit didn't expose anything other than Kyle trying to keep her quiet. 

At the top of my head, is Kyle forgetting outing her own sister as an alcoholic season 1? What about bullying the new girl to tears on a game night season 2? How about a private surrogacy being outed by Brand season 3? Erika going crazy on Eileen in Hong Kong over an analogy? In not too distant history, surely she remembers Fox Force 5 ganging up on someone who just lost her brother to suicide and then ganging up on another woman to discuss rumors about her sex life the next season? What about Erika cursing at a child or threatening Sutton? I thought Kyle was at least shocked when conversation of orphans and widows Tom stole from came up and Erika said "I don't give a f*** about anyone else but me."

Edited Yest. at 02:46 AM by RealHousewife

[twilightzone]

21 hours ago, njbchlover said:

I agree - and, I think that it all stems from Season 9 (the last season with LVP).  I think that Kyle regrets backing Dorit and destroying her friendship with LVP, which I do think was a true friendship.  I think during that whole thing, Kyle thought that the fight between her and LVP would be a "show" fight and they would make up, either later in the season or at the reunion.  We all saw that didn't happen. 

I think that Kyle knows that Dorit was guilty, and has been slowly distancing herself ever since, leading to the final fall out after Dorit interjected herself into the Kyle/Kathy stuff at the reunion.

That chapter is closed.  You're giving Kyle way too much credit.  Kyle has always been about what serves her best.  She is hardly a martyr.  Even prior to Puppy gate, her relationship with LVP had pretty much dissolved into nothing more than just co-workers.

The common ground for Kyle and Dorit were their husbands.  And I suspect with both marriages in trouble, and rumors that Dorit was on the chopping block with the show, made her disposable to Kyle.  This considering the petty reasons Kyle is putting out there about Dorit.

Edited 16 hours ago by twilightzone

[SemiCharmedLife]

19 hours ago, Keywestclubkid said:

I think she said she was hot .. I remember thinking so you take out your extensions? 

Kathy needs a neck fan.  It works wonders for hot flashes, immediate cool down without ruining your glam.

[ZettaK]

59 minutes ago, SemiCharmedLife said:

Kathy needs a neck fan.  It works wonders for hot flashes, immediate cool down without ruining your glam.

Kathy Hilton is 65. I doubt she still has hot flashes.

[hoodooznoodooz]

Kyle stopped drinking alcohol. Now Kyle and Dorit are estranged.

PK stopped drinking alcohol. Now PK and Dorit are separated. 

 

I kid.
 

Seriously, I am on Dorit’s side with regard to the tiff with Kyle. 

[hoodooznoodooz]

So Morgan told Kyle to shut up about her.

[Baltimore Betty]

5 hours ago, ZettaK said:

Kathy Hilton is 65. I doubt she still has hot flashes.

I am (a very youthful) 63 and still get hot flashes, I have been told by some of my older relatives that even at 80 they get the rogue hot flash so I think Kathy could still be getting them.

Death, taxes and hot flashes...cannot escape them!

[Keywestclubkid]

7 hours ago, SemiCharmedLife said:

Kathy needs a neck fan.  It works wonders for hot flashes, immediate cool down without ruining your glam.

She needs to learn tact .. just cause you have more money then God and your daughter is super super famous doesn't mean you can act any way you want in public .. she would have been aghast if someone was at her function and acted a fool with pulling their hair out... the more i watch her the more she annoys me .. its the entitlement that she can do these things in public and its ok .. ugh even if it was a hot flash excuse yourself dont start frantically pulling at your hair like a loon :)

Edited Yest. at 01:18 PM by Keywestclubkid

[Starlight925]

Kathy:  Ladies rooms are where "ladies" go to adjust their hair.

I'm Jewish, and I was recently invited to a luncheon with all Orthodox Jewish women (I'm not Orthodox).  Orthodox women must cover their head at all times in public, so they wear wigs.  In most cases, their hair looked beautiful, but the ladies room was full of women adjusting their wigs before they went back out.

Kathy could learn a thing or two.

[pasdetrois]

16 hours ago, njbchlover said:

People may perceive Kathy as some kind of grand, proper lady, but I think she's just a tacky person who had the good fortune to marry up into the Hilton name/money.

Kathy is cheap Christmas trash (TM Chick Boyle in "Crimes of the Heart.")

[emma675]

All the money in the world can't buy money or class. Kathy is living proof of that. 

[RealHousewife]

I wonder if some rich people think whatever they do must be classy just because they’re rich? See Vanderpump with p***y jokes and puppies at the dinner table. 

[Sweet-tea]

I only made it through 15 minutes. Too much Erika and Kyle. I can't stand either of them. I might be done with this show. 

[Natalie68]

20 hours ago, njbchlover said:

Totally....to be honest, out of the three sisters, I really think that Kyle probably has the most "learned class".  People may perceive Kathy as some kind of grand, proper lady, but I think she's just a tacky person who had the good fortune to marry up into the Hilton name/money.  From what I've read, Kathy and Rick weren't super classy in their younger days.  Kim, well, she never could be considered classy because she's struggled much of her life with on-again, off-again substance abuse.

Trash, even in a designer trash bag is still trash.....

Yeah, I think all three are tacky and low class.  Just with $$.

[twilightzone]

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Edited 16 hours ago by twilightzone

[Surrealist]

On 11/20/2024 at 10:20 PM, njbchlover said:

Especially Dorit and Boz.  Erica's outfit was a cross between surrealism and avant-garde.  Garcelle's outfit was stunning, but more red carpet than surrealism, except maybe for her headpiece.  Same with Kyle's and Sutton's outfits.

I thought Erika's was the best example of Surrealism.

The rest? Not really. 

Edited 16 hours ago by Surrealist

[Baltimore Betty]

2 minutes ago, Surrealist said:

I thought Erika's was the best example of Surrealism.

The rest? Not really. 

I would trust your judgement, @Surrealist, don't know why but I do! LOL.

[Surrealist]

10 minutes ago, Baltimore Betty said:

I would trust your judgement, @Surrealist, don't know why but I do! LOL.

I know a bit about Surrealism, but am no expert. I was underwhelmed by most of the outfits.

I agree with @njbchlover that these women watched a Project Runway avant garde challenge episode, and dressed accordingly. 

Edited 16 hours ago by Surrealist

[RealHousewife]

Superficial thing I was most impressed by was how beautiful Erika looked on the after show. She looked flawless. 

[ww92]

On 11/21/2024 at 6:11 PM, BloggerAloud said:

I have always felt that something happened between Kyle and Dorit off-camera that caused the relationship to implode because Kyle has sort of distanced herself from Dorit the past couple of years. And since neither of them will bring that issue on camera, they keep fighting these proxy wars

I kind of think so too but can't put my finger on what I think it is. I thought maybe it had to do with Dorit's home invasion, like maybe PK asked Mo to help cover up that he'd orchestrated it and Mo helped. Kyle found out and that was a last straw. She did say that Mo had broken her trust in a way that she wasn't able to get past. But then I don't know why she'd be mad at Dorit and not PK. Same with the rumors that Dorit and Mo had a fling or something. If that was the case then why would PK still be friends with Mo?

[Shannah Banana]

4 hours ago, ww92 said:

Same with the rumors that Dorit and Mo had a fling or something. If that was the case then why would PK still be friends with Mo?

I'm just throwing my two cents in because clearly, I don't know jack.  Seems like there may have been some flirting going on with Dorit and Mauricio, maybe some semi-inappropriate touching at some point? I don't think they were ever accused of having a full blown fling though.  Way back in the day, Kyle seemed really jealous.  This memory was a long time ago, at one of their stupid white parties, and some woman was dancing with Mo, they were kinda up close and personal, and Kyle came storming up to them and was yelling, something like "GET OFF OF MY HUSBAND", she was pretty mad.  The woman backed off and Mo stood there looking like a dummy, and that's pretty much all I remember, but hopefully it's fairly accurate.  So, maybe when people started gossiping about how Dorit and Mo flirted, it helped burned the Kyle/Dorit bridge.  I would imagine though, poor Kyle has probably had to beat the women off Mauricio with a stick.  It's not hard for me to imagine Mauricio being a real chick magnet, and honestly, if he was faithful to her all those years, I would be very surprised.  jmo

[Soapy Goddess]

4 hours ago, Shannah Banana said:

9 hours ago, ww92 said:

Same with the rumors that Dorit and Mo had a fling or something. If that was the case then why would PK still be friends with Mo?

I'm just throwing my two cents in because clearly, I don't know jack.  Seems like there may have been some flirting going on with Dorit and Mauricio, maybe some semi-inappropriate touching at some point? I don't think they were ever accused of having a full blown fling though.  Way back in the day, Kyle seemed really jealous. 

Since we're speculating, maybe Mo & PK were in on the flirtation and possible fling. I have a suspicion that both men were tired of their wives and looking for some excitement. After all, Mo did say "for once it's you" (meaning Kyle). I could also see PK looking for some extra curricular activity. And if he "ok'd" Mo to seduce Dorit, it would take some guilt off if he went looking for said activity.