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S01.E01: Pilot


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I can see why this is being called the best new show.  It's not sit commy schlock, it's smart, funny and hitting topics everyone can relate to.   

I kinda love the football coach.  His way of dealing with the mean Mom was perfection.  

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6 hours ago, SeanBug said:

I kinda love the football coach.  His way of dealing with the mean Mom was perfection. 

I agreed with his point about fighting fire with fire.  I didn't agree with his threat to out the mom's kid. 

I'm kind of mixed on the show.  It's a pilot, so I know the show can improve.  It did feel like they were trying to jam a lot into the first episode.  I liked the relationships between the main character and his teacher friends.    

Was the ass grabbing kiss the one the kids actually saw during class? 

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1 hour ago, txhorns79 said:

I agreed with his point about fighting fire with fire.  I didn't agree with his threat to out the mom's kid. 

I'm kind of mixed on the show.  It's a pilot, so I know the show can improve.  It did feel like they were trying to jam a lot into the first episode.  I liked the relationships between the main character and his teacher friends.    

Was the ass grabbing kiss the one the kids actually saw during class? 

Apparently that's what they saw. 

I don't think Markie would have outed him, but I think we've learned you don't fight bullies by backing down.  The Mother was blaming Evan for her son being gay.  If it wasn't Evan, it would have been something else that made him realize who he was and that it was okay, no matter what kind of monster his Mother is. 

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I watch this pilot with a skeptical mind. I worry it’s gonna be too woke, too whiny and busy ticking-off boxes. Thank god it isn’t. For now, at least.

Markie knows how to handle bullies and the man also has a point re their ex-student.

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“He sees you being you and thinks that’s how I wanna be.”

 

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This went under my radar for so long but part of me is so happy that I didn't hear about it a long time ago because I very much looked forward to it immediately.

I remember seeing The Fabulous Gay Life of Caleb Gallo and absolutely loving it and I think I'll like this just as much. 

From the jokes about teens becoming anti-woke to not wanting to be surreptitiously filmed, I was very much into this.  I especially liked that it's in a different kind of milieu compared to Abbott Elementary.  It gets to play on the weird culture issues in suburban schools. 

6 hours ago, txhorns79 said:

Was the ass grabbing kiss the one the kids actually saw during class? 

Yes.  I think so.  And it's another thing I appreciate because I immediately assumed it really wasn't inappropriate and the mother was just homophobic.  But then we saw the butt grab so it ends up being both.  Evan and his boyfriend were inappropriate AND the mother is homophobic. 

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Okay, I liked this, and I'm so glad to see Enrico Colantoni on TV, but I'm incapable of not fixing the grammar on a show called English Teacher. This is wrong, right?

"this behavior would not only BE tolerated but encouraged ..."

It should be "this behavior would BE not only tolerated but encouraged ..."

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I really liked the pilot, especially Markie as the pragmatic bro-dude.  
The "Heads-up!" scene between Evan and Markie was hilarious. The words weren't all that funny, but the situation, the visuals and the deliveries made them so.

The scene when Markie was playing a video game was touching and funny.  Some may not like his method, but he meant well and prolly wouldn't have gone any farther than he did.

Book Club was mega. Varied POV that were dumb, interesting and funny.

 

Ep2 was also good, but I didn't care for them making Shazam a criminal. It sorta let the air of my balloon.

 

This show seems promising.

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I really liked this! I didn't know what to expect, I just kept hearing promos for it on my podcasts. It was bugging me where I knew the main actor from, so when I looked it up I realized he was Estefan on the Will and Grace reboot. LOL. Talk about a completely different character. 

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Teacher here-

a few fact corrections-

teachers don’t eat in the cafeteria with students. For one thing there isn’t space for another most schools have staggered lunches for a third lunch is the teachers own time.

we have this thing called faculty lounges…

Abbott elementary more realistic there.

I realize the writers want to have running gags and have a way the teachers are able to interact but this one does not work. 

because it’s our own time, unlike prep or duty, a principal cannot walk by and summon you to a meeting.

 

teachers unions in Texas are weak but not non existent; there’s just no way the principal wouldn’t say speak to your union rep. The fact that the writers didn’t even throw in one line about the existence of legal counsel or unions  is absurd. And even in Texas this would much more likely be at most a written reprimand than a firing offense.

that said I did enjoy the performances, markie especially…

 

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Knew I was gonna loathe him when he  put a full ceramic coffee mug in his car’s cup holder. Who in the universe doesn’t own a travel mug?

Also, I thought the kiss would be a peck in the car before school. Not a full make out with ass grabbing in the middle of class. Bro. How were you going to justify that? No sell. 
 

I’m also pretty sure you can’t make a no fraternization policy that targets a specific employee. Either inter-faculty dating is permitted or it’s not. 

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On 9/22/2024 at 8:41 PM, lucindabelle said:

there’s just no way the principal wouldn’t say speak to your union rep.

Not a teacher, never even been in a union, but I was also wondering where the union was in all of this.  I pretty much assume all public school teachers belong to unions, but I could be wrong on that. 

A little late to the party, just started watching, but I'm enjoying this.  At first, were they trying to make us think this was in the 80's or 90's with the music, and putting a coffee cup in the cup holder?  That was a bit distracting. 

Anyways, cute show, I like the cast.  As someone said above, it's not overly sit-commy for a sit-com.  None of the characters are so over-the-top to be unbelievable.  The football coach is closing in on that, but not quite to the line.  Even the students don't seem annoying at this point.  And I always love Enrico C. popping up on my screen. 

 

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On 11/10/2024 at 4:13 PM, chaifan said:

Not a teacher, never even been in a union, but I was also wondering where the union was in all of this.  I pretty much assume all public school teachers belong to unions, but I could be wrong on that.

Nope.  There are some states where political leaders have targeted unions unless you're part of a job that normally votes for the "right" party. 

It looks like teachers' unions in TX can't compel membership or collectively bargain.  There are harsh penalties for striking.  The most they likely do is advocacy but don't have anything to do with the day-to-day of the job.

 

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On 9/5/2024 at 8:21 PM, Dirge said:

Okay, I liked this, and I'm so glad to see Enrico Colantoni on TV, but I'm incapable of not fixing the grammar on a show called English Teacher. This is wrong, right?

"this behavior would not only BE tolerated but encouraged ..."

It should be "this behavior would BE not only tolerated but encouraged ..."

I’m a total grammar nerd and between you and I is INFURIATING.

It’s not in the curriculum but I also teach sentence diagramming.

However I am unfamiliar with your first correction. It’s not a split infinitive. Would you provide a link? I’m not understanding why you cannot separate the helping verb and verbs.

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@lucindabelle Here's a website that explains ithttps://www.grammarly.com/blog/writing-techniques/parallelism-with-not-only-but-also/

It's not a split infinitive; it's a misuse of not only/but (or but also) making "tolerated" and "encouraged" not parallel. if you want your verb to apply to the "not only" thing and to the "but also" thing, then the verb has to come before the "not only." "This behavior would be not only tolerated but encouraged." 

In the 60s in Catholic school the nuns would have us check it by making two sentences that use the same stem (beginning of the sentence up to "not only"), with one following the stem with the words between "not only" and "but," and the second following the stem with the words after "but." They must both be grammatical when you remove "not only" and "but/but also," or you've used them incorrectly. 

Incorrect: (1) [This behavior would] not only be tolerated." (The first sentence always comes out right even if you have it wrong.)

(2) [This behavior would] but encouraged." You can't use "be" because it followed "not only" so it went with the first sentence. To make it correct, you need to add "be" to the stem. 

Correct: (1) [This behavior would be] not only tolerated."

(2) [This behavior would be] but encouraged."

If you had two verbs, one for each thing, then each verb would come AFTER "not only" or "but/but also": "I not only ate cake but drank champagne."

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