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S09:E10: December 7, 2023

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Oh, no, Aaron and Eliza are getting the “traditional love guru” date! This is usually reserved for the couple in which one person is head over heels and the other is indifferent. The couple usually breaks up at the end of this date once the “spells” or whatever don’t work. I’m glad they survived this one!

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Kaylee is all “When is he ever going to be ready for a proposal?!” You’ve known each other 3 weeks. Though I understand her perspective when Aven is all “that’s one small part of this whole process”—that’s the entire point of this whole process. Well, that and to entertain the viewers with the drama, and I guess to sell ad space to sponsors… For as practical as it is to say we’ll date in the real world and get engaged in a typical time frame in the future, Aven has to know Kylee is here for the fairy tale experience. She wants to show off her ring in People magazine.

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Ok, this is obviously not Mari and Kenny’s real “wedding.” Where are their family and friends?!? Instead they get some rando contestants they don’t know and the kitchen staff?!?

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15 minutes ago, JenE4 said:

Ok, this is obviously not Mari and Kenny’s real “wedding.” Where are their family and friends?!? Instead they get some rando contestants they don’t know and the kitchen staff?!?

They recently had two real weddings…one in Puerto Rico for her family and one in Chicago where his friends are.  

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Just now, Jaundiced Eye said:

Did Jesse basically say put out or get out? I don't remember that happening before. 😂 

Lol. Well, when you put it that way… But this is typical. Leave now, or if you take the overnight date you’re saying you’re at least leaning toward a proposal—or have and awkward moment at proposal point. This is the time everyone has their hard talks in the beach and half the couples run off crying, dragging their suitcases. But this season they seemed to start that the day/two days prior.

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Charisma, vibrations, energy, and aura! Well, I guess that covers it all. Even though they didn’t show much of Sam and Peter, I really thought they were the dark horse couple since they are—or at least she is—older than the rest of the contestants 

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19 minutes ago, Jaundiced Eye said:

Yeah, it seems early, and I don't remember the show having fantasy suites. I faintly recall references to the Boom Boom room.

It’s been this way for a while. I’m not certain, but I’m guessing the format changed after DeMario allegedly assaulted a very drunk Corinne. After that they really toned down the sex and alcohol, and instead really doubled-down in the engagement aspect as the primary focus of this show, rather than the prior party in spring break focus. I mean, engagements occurred before then, too, but no more Chis Bukowski bringing three different women to the boom boom room, like back in the day.

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Yikes! It was a little concerning how Eliza wasn’t sure what she was going to say, but their moment at least seemed pretty genuine. But John Henry saying my gut is telling me to say no and we’ve never been in a fight. Um, I know you came in late, dude, but I think you’ve still seen her angry! It’s not good! But according to the montage, it seems like they’re still doing well, and Eliza and Aaron are on the rocks. 

The rest of the montage was cute! So many weddings and babies! But Brayden and the other Aaron almost died in a shipwreck?!? How did I miss that news! And moreover, now Brayden is dating Christina Mandrell—and brining her kid on a boat…after almost dying in a shipwreck. This is wild stuff. Blake waiting it out in the wilderness until he’s old enough to be the Golden Bachelor. Ha!

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3 hours was a lot.

John Henry and Kat was surprising to make it to the end and they are happy still.

Aaron and Eliza I guess they're preparing to break up.  

Blake golden bachelor was funny. 

Brayden and Christina thats nice.

That's a lot of marriages and babies in 2023 for BIP. Its doing better than the main show. lol

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22 hours ago, DEL901 said:

They seriously black barred the dog’s butt???

Black barring the dog's booty was creepy.

 

22 hours ago, JenE4 said:

Ok, this is obviously not Mari and Kenny’s real “wedding.” Where are their family and friends?!? Instead they get some rando contestants they don’t know and the kitchen staff?!?

I believe Jesse is ordained to officiate weddings and Wells did a good job as ring bearer.

21 hours ago, JenE4 said:

 This is the time everyone has their hard talks in the beach and half the couples run off crying, dragging their suitcases. 

Olivia got in the limo wearing a bikini and not carrying any suitcase (s).

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23 hours ago, JenE4 said:

Kaylee is all “When is he ever going to be ready for a proposal?!” You’ve known each other 3 weeks. Though I understand her perspective when Aven is all “that’s one small part of this whole process”—that’s the entire point of this whole process. Well, that and to entertain the viewers with the drama, and I guess to sell ad space to sponsors… For as practical as it is to say we’ll date in the real world and get engaged in a typical time frame in the future, Aven has to know Kylee is here for the fairy tale experience. She wants to show off her ring in People magazine.

Also, she could not have looked more miserable as she tried to browbeat him into a proposal. It couldn't be clearer that she wanted the televised moment and not the proposal or the marriage. They didn't even seem to be having fun together, even if she'd been able to drag him to the proposal site, it would have been a lackluster scene.

I KNEW Aaron was going to bring up that damn breakfast thing in the proposal. He really seems convinced that's the height of sensitivity or whatever. Still can't really stand him, there is something so calculated about his speech patterns and he commits to this show's nonsense a little too fully. Not at all surprised to see the end tag suggesting that they're on the rocks.

Who the hell could have predicted Kat and John Henry as the potential success story of the season. I was positive she was rose hunting and would drop his monosyllabic ass as soon as they returned to civilization, but by the end tag, I was kind of buying them as a couple. Her story about her childhood in a group home made me look at her a little differently. She's still annoying AF, but seems a little damaged at the core and John Henry might be good for her.

Olivia's exit was as cringe-y as the rest of her stay, she should probably stick to dating off the television. I feel bad for her, but she also could benefit from not falling head over heels with every guy who gives her a passing glance.

I hope Jess watches this back and realizes that collecting compliments on her outfits does not constitute a relationship. The fact that she's said that out loud to 2 different people just astounds me, does she not hear how self absorbed and ridiculous she sounds? 

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51 minutes ago, Crashcourse said:

I thought black barring the dog's butt was meant to be a joke.

Most likely, yes.

18 minutes ago, ljenkins782 said:

Also, she could not have looked more miserable as she tried to browbeat him into a proposal. It couldn't be clearer that she wanted the televised moment and not the proposal or the marriage. They didn't even seem to be having fun together, even if she'd been able to drag him to the proposal site, it would have been a lackluster scene.

 

I've thought along that Aven's heart is with Tyler, not Kylee.

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I KNEW Aaron was going to bring up that damn breakfast thing in the proposal. He really seems convinced that's the height of sensitivity or whatever.

LOL

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 Her story about her childhood in a group home made me look at her a little differently. She's still annoying AF, but seems a little damaged at the core and John Henry might be good for her.

 

Agreed, and their beach-date-talk was my favorite scene from the entire season.

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23 hours ago, Jaundiced Eye said:

Yeah, it seems early, and I don't remember the show having fantasy suites. 

I always have thought that 'fantasy suites' were theme rooms such as 'Star Wars" or "Tarzan" or "Under the Sea". The suites last night looked regular to me, no theme. But it seems BIP has a low budget because poor Jesse was sweating profusely during the wedding ceremony and no one from the production staff was available to towel off his face.

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Mari should have been given the message: Beach wedding and a dress with a train is not a good mix.

The pressure to be engaged by the end of the show is ridiculous. I understand that someone can want to be married, and not continue a relationship if there is no chance of that. But a timeline of three weeks? 

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10 minutes ago, tinkerbell said:

 

The pressure to be engaged by the end of the show is ridiculous. I understand that someone can want to be married, and not continue a relationship if there is no chance of that. But a timeline of three weeks? 

Consider that 100 years ago arranged marriages were common. So, 3 weeks on Paradise is enough time to choose a spouse.

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I found Season 9 of Bachelor in Paradise to be very entertaining, especially the finale episode. If anyone from the show reads this message board, thanks to the cast and all employees involved with the production.

And thanks to all who participate here at this forum. Best wishes to you and yours for a good 2024.

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4 hours ago, tinkerbell said:

Mari should have been given the message: Beach wedding and a dress with a train is not a good mix.

The pressure to be engaged by the end of the show is ridiculous. I understand that someone can want to be married, and not continue a relationship if there is no chance of that. But a timeline of three weeks? 

And yet BiP has a far superior success record than the mothership.  

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Sweet-tea

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On 12/7/2023 at 7:54 PM, JenE4 said:

Kaylee is all “When is he ever going to be ready for a proposal?!” You’ve known each other 3 weeks. Though I understand her perspective when Aven is all “that’s one small part of this whole process”—that’s the entire point of this whole process. Well, that and to entertain the viewers with the drama, and I guess to sell ad space to sponsors… For as practical as it is to say we’ll date in the real world and get engaged in a typical time frame in the future, Aven has to know Kylee is here for the fairy tale experience. She wants to show off her ring in People magazine.

This was my impression too. She wanted her TV moment. I thought Aven was reasonable and she was being ridiculous. 

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Olivia's exit was as cringe-y as the rest of her stay, she should probably stick to dating off the television.

I thought she handled herself pretty well. She didn't start crying and carrying on. She just said a few words and left. Good for her. 

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Eliza's fake little girl voice is so high pitched and exaggerated- I wish her well, but I can't handle another season of it. Aaron knows her breakfast order and that's about the only thing he knows about her- such deep knowledge of his fiancé 😏.  Kylee should just buy herself a ring if she wants it so badly. She's begging Aven who she's known for a few weeks to marry her, and he still wanted to date her after that?! She's so desperate- guys on the dating apps would sprint home and never look back if they encountered that behavior so early on. Kylee only wants the Niel Lane diamond ring and the fanfare that comes with an engagement.  Thank you for making this season fun for me, BIP Primetimer posters! 

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It really is wild that this trashy show has such a high success rate, so much higher than the mothership, that is a LOT of marriages and babies. I certainly never would have pegged Kat and John Henry to actually work out but it seems like they might actually be for real. I pegged Kat as just doing some rose chasing until she found someone she liked better, but they did end up actually having a nice vibe. I still don't like Kat very much and find her to be massively annoying, but knowing more about her life does give me some more context for why she does what she does. 

I hope that Jessie watches this season and realizes that "he tells me how cute I look in every outfit I wear" does not a relationship make. Girl, just listen to what you said...

Kaylee badgering Aven into an engagement was painfully award to sit through, especially because its obvious that she doesn't really want a marriage, she wants the big engagement moment with the ring and the flowers. I don't think she and Aven have even talked about engagement before she started whining about it, I don't know why she's acting all wronged because he wont purpose to her after a few weeks when he already says he wants to keep dating her. She didn't even get her big proposal moment, she and Aven looked utterly miserable getting into that car together. 

Olivia actually left with a surprising amount of dignity. If she wasn't so desperate for attention that she falls in love with every man who makes eye contact with her, she would probably be really cool. 

Congrats Aaron, you know what breakfast is. Aaron still comes off as really rehearsed to me, not surprised that they're already having problems now that the cameras are off. 

The "where are they nows" were fun, but hopefully next season no one almost gets lost at sea!

Blake for Golden Bachelor! 

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On 12/9/2023 at 3:44 PM, Sweet-tea said:

I thought she handled herself pretty well. She didn't start crying and carrying on. She just said a few words and left. Good for her. 

I just meant the part where she gave a speech pretending to be falling in love with yet another guy she'd known for 5 mins. She seemed like a relatively fun person to hang out with when she wasn't playing to the cameras, so hopefully she does better offscreen.

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2 hours ago, Sweet-tea said:

Didn't take very long.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/bachelor-in-paradise-stars-kat-and-john-henry-announce-their-breakup-days-after-engagement-aired/ar-AA1k3lvV?ocid=socialshare

When I was talking to my husband about the proposal pressure part, he said something about how the guy could get down on one knee, and right when he starts asking her to marry him, just give a quick wink to let her know that this proposal is for the publicity/clout/whatever. Well, I swear to God, when John Henry got down on one knee and started to propose to Kat, his right eye winked. I rewound it 4 times, to see if maybe it was because sweat was getting in his eye or something, but nope, it was a wink!

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So Neil Lane is getting all of his Zales rings back- since Eliza and Aaron broke up too 🙌💯📺😅!  I knew that none of them would last! Oh no- did Aaron forget Eliza's breakfast order?! 👀🍳🥯🥭😄😆 Did Eliza slip and forget to put on her cloyingly sweet little girl voice?! The world will never know!

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