S15.E11: Make Up, Slip Ups, and Cover Ups

[TexasGal]

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Sheree continues her healing journey through Algarve, Portugal, by taking the ladies to a few local experiences. Kenya seeks a different kind of healing following a freak accident. Drew finds herself battling friends and some serious allegations about her past when she accuses Kandi of telling a lie.

Airdate: 07.23.2023

As a reminder, events which occur after episode time are spoilers and should be discussed in media or individual housewife threads only.

[Bronzedog]

How could anyone be married to Ralph and not want to kiss someone else?
Kenya is pretty much spending the entire season in the hospital.

[mbaywife123]

Kenya is just an awful person.

Love that Karma is coming back to bite in the ass!

When she fell I was wondering if she was looking for a slip and fall lawsuit or settlement . (Lazy woman trying to make some quick coins!)

If I was Kandi when Kenya asked her to come to the hospital with her I would have said NOPE or gone inside with no response like I didn’t hear her request.

[Baltimore Betty]

Kandi flew to Portugal for two days and on her second and last day Kenya pisses all over it by requesting Kandi sit in an ER with her?  I wonder if Kenya called Roi during her waiting to be seen by a doctor, you know because they are "dating."

Drew's Kissgate could be interesting but Ralph putting it out there as the reason for the marriage ending, hah! Does he not remember when he left the house for four days and upon returning basically refusing to say where he was along with the other nonsense he has pulled?

Geeze, so few comments on this episode, is everyone waiting in an ER or something?

[Chatty Cake]

I would have asked one of the producers to go to the hospital with Kenya. What a waste of a day for Kandi. 
The episode was a bit dull. I’m not a fan of the two friends. I’d rather Shamea come back. 
Why are they rehashing the Bolo night? If I had to guess I’d say Drew probably made out with Latoya. But is it that big a deal 2 years later? 

[Stats Queen]

10 hours ago, mbaywife123 said:

If I was Kandi when Kenya asked her to come to the hospital with her I would have said NOPE or gone inside with no response like I didn’t hear her request.

That was so selfish of Kenya.

33 minutes ago, Chatty Cake said:

Why are they rehashing the Bolo night? If I had to guess I’d say Drew probably made out with Latoya. But is it that big a deal 2 years later? 

Right. And why is it any of their business in the first place?

[Keywestclubkid]

Snooooze through this episode ... Marlo if you were having such a good time without them why did you have to bring them up? GIRL

[Rlb8031]

This is an interesting episode from the perspective of watching in real-time, a HW try to navigate the "on tv vs. IRL" aspect of the show. These women all seem to have these off-camera implicit or explicit agreements about what is or is not fodder for the show (kids are off limits, no talk about blog issues unless you've expressly asked and been given permission by the HW, etc.) This is yet again, a case where someone (Sheree) raises an issue without clearing it off-camera, then gets accused of trying to make "a moment" happen on-camera. At the same time, the person who is at the center of the issue (Drew) gets accused of trying to milk an otherwise non-issue for their moment. This particular formula has become almost singularly, the main conflict across all the HW shows (Erica's lawsuit on BH, Kyle's divorce on BH, Lisa's courtside seats on SC, Karen's hooking up with Blue-Eyes on Potomac, Monique and the trainer on Potomac, Tamara and that new chick on OC, etc. etc).

Clearly (and with the 20/20 benefit of hindsight) Drew is dealing with something that is much bigger than $1000 lawsuit. I feel like what production may be starting to allude to is that Drew is concerned that this woman may also have had some interaction/interplay with Ralph. Whatever it is, she is boxed in by not wanting to/ being able to be honest with tv cameras running, and her co-workers determined to make a moment at her expense.  But since Bravo never lets an opportunity pass, we have a lot of smoke and very little fire, over a $1000- which as Kenya pointed out is ridiculous.

[lasu]

Drew could have 50 affairs with men, with women, with any variety of consenting adults, and I still would firmly believe Ralph is the asshole in that marriage. 

[goofygirl]

This ep was a snoozefest for sure!!  I'm still trying to understand why Sheree and Marlo ALWAYS have some snarky comment about Kandi.  It's like the woman can't do ANYTHING right in their eyes.  Although, this MIGHT be all right, considering it's Sheree and Marlo doing the carping.

[howiveaddict]

6 minutes ago, goofygirl said:

This ep was a snoozefest for sure!!  I'm still trying to understand why Sheree and Marlo ALWAYS have some snarky comment about Kandi.  It's like the woman can't do ANYTHING right in their eyes.  Although, this MIGHT be all right, considering it's Sheree and Marlo doing the carping.

Jealousy!

[ZettaK]

23 hours ago, Rlb8031 said:

It may also have had some interaction/interplay with Ralph. Whatever it is, she is boxed in by not wanting to/ being able to be honest with tv cameras running, and her co-workers determined to make a moment at her expense.  But since Bravo never lets an opportunity pass, we have a lot of smoke and very little fire, over a $1000- which as Kenya pointed out is ridiculous.

It could be about Ralph because in the talking head which followed she said that she essentially doesn't trust Ralph when he (or she) is away. He was in Vegas when she was in Portugal. She also said that a female producer (?), not a Bravo employee was hitting on him. 

Edited July 25, 2023 by ZettaK

[lasu]

13 hours ago, goofygirl said:

I'm still trying to understand why Sheree and Marlo ALWAYS have some snarky comment about Kandi.

Because Kandi (I'm guessing) makes more money than either of them, has to film less, and can walk away from Housewives with almost no repercussions.  They are jealous of the power she has and they don't.

[Baltimore Betty]

Kenya slips and falls in front of the hotel, there were no signs/cones to warn of slippery surfaces, here in the states it would be a slam dunk personal injury case, easily won some damages but would it be easy to even bring it to trial in Portugal?

I did notice that she was wearing her hotel slippers, they don't have much traction.

 

[lasu]

16 hours ago, Baltimore Betty said:

Kenya slips and falls in front of the hotel, there were no signs/cones to warn of slippery surfaces, here in the states it would be a slam dunk personal injury case, easily won some damages but would it be easy to even bring it to trial in Portugal?

 

There was actually a fairly large caution side that she practically fell on.  I had noticed it earlier because I thought it was cute - it looks like a banana peel standing up.

And just because I'm bitter (lol), had the sign not been there, it would have been a slam dunk in MOST US states.  NC, along with I think 6 other states, it super victim-blamey.  If you can be considered ONE PERCENT at fault for your accident (like wearing slippers), you get nothing.

[ZettaK]

I know that the Atlanta HWs film in the fall and winter, but I don't know why Portugal was chosen because November and December is the rainy season. And it's winter time. Didn't the Atlanta HWs go to Portugal before? 

Kandi feels she has to pursue every business opportunity, and project. She doesn't want to fail, but what is she going to do when she becomes older, and she won't be able to work as hard as she can now? 

[goofygirl]

7 hours ago, ZettaK said:

I know that the Atlanta HWs film in the fall and winter, but I don't know why Portugal was chosen because November and December is the rainy season. And it's winter time. Didn't the Atlanta HWs go to Portugal before? 

Kandi feels she has to pursue every business opportunity, and project. She doesn't want to fail, but what is she going to do when she becomes older, and she won't be able to work as hard as she can now? 

I think it was the DC housewives that went to Portugal.

[ZettaK]

On 7/29/2023 at 10:39 AM, goofygirl said:

I think it was the DC housewives that went to Portugal.

Potomac HWs?

Edited July 31, 2023 by ZettaK

[swankie]

On 7/24/2023 at 8:24 AM, Chatty Cake said:

Why are they rehashing the Bolo night? If I had to guess I’d say Drew probably made out with Latoya. But is it that big a deal 2 years later? 

Well, it is to Drew since it is affecting her marriage.  I put it in the perspective of not being any different than kissing and making out with another man.  Cheating is cheating whether it's with a male or female.  For them to keep bringing it up is not cool in my opinion since it's affecting someone's marriage.  To me that's just a terrible thing to do to a friend, or even a coworker.  They should have just left it where it was 2 years ago.  Marlo has no scruples at all.  

Edited July 31, 2023 by swankie
Reword a thought.

[Baltimore Betty]

4 hours ago, swankie said:

Well, it is to Drew since it is affecting her marriage.

I think Ralph has been affecting the marriage long before Drew kissed a girl and she liked it.

It was not the kiss that affected the marriage, obviously there was something wrong with the relationship for Drew to get a little affection from somebody, usually happily coupled people don't go looking for a little action on the side.  

In my opinion there were lots of things going on that night and for Marlo to video one person's activities I would think she has others on tape as well.

[Chatty Cake]

5 hours ago, Baltimore Betty said:

I think Ralph has been affecting the marriage long before Drew kissed a girl and she liked it.

It was not the kiss that affected the marriage, obviously there was something wrong with the relationship for Drew to get a little affection from somebody, usually happily coupled people don't go looking for a little action on the side.  

In my opinion there were lots of things going on that night and for Marlo to video one person's activities I would think she has others on tape as well.

 They know Ralph can be a jerk, I’m surprised they would want to give him something to use against her. I also think recording people without their knowledge is wrong. 

[ZettaK]

14 hours ago, Chatty Cake said:

 They know Ralph can be a jerk, I’m surprised they would want to give him something to use against her. I also think recording people without their knowledge is wrong. 

They don't care about Drew. They only care to create a story line for themselves. Ralph cheated repeatedly, but Drew is crucified for kissing somebody. This is an old story. They knew what happened that night, and other women, for example Porsha had sex with Bolo. 

Drew said that Ralph stopped going to counseling some time ago.

Edited August 1, 2023 by ZettaK

[Rlb8031]

On 7/29/2023 at 2:41 AM, ZettaK said:

Kandi feels she has to pursue every business opportunity, and project. She doesn't want to fail, but what is she going to do when she becomes older, and she won't be able to work as hard as she can now? 

She is going to sit on her porch, counting her coins like Scrooge McDuck. When it comes to business, she slays all day and she's earning cash so that she can continue her artistic pursuits, rather than relying on someone else to fund them. I'm not mad at Kandi at all for booking tour dates, producing broadway shows, hosting podcasts and whatever else she wants to so that she can live out her golden years not having to rely on someone else. 

[ZettaK]

12 hours ago, Rlb8031 said:

She is going to sit on her porch, counting her coins like Scrooge McDuck. When it comes to business, she slays all day and she's earning cash so that she can continue her artistic pursuits, rather than relying on someone else to fund them. I'm not mad at Kandi at all for booking tour dates, producing broadway shows, hosting podcasts and whatever else she wants to so that she can live out her golden years not having to rely on someone else. 

She doesn't have to rely on anybody else for a long time. 

I didn't like Courtney's comment about karma, and Kenya falling (I don't like similar comments about anybody), even if Kenya is not the nicest person. I guess Courtney who is only a friend decided to find another target after Kandi to promote herself.

[Chalby]

On 7/24/2023 at 5:24 AM, Chatty Cake said:

Why are they rehashing the Bolo night? If I had to guess I’d say Drew probably made out with Latoya. But is it that big a deal 2 years later? 

You read my mind. I wish Drew would not even address what the women were saying nor give light to it. That was ages ago and who cares? The fact that they're trying to shame her for indulging in a stupid kiss is beyond me. And frankly I don't believe half these women, they could have seen anything from across the room and just assumed the rest of it. Unless they were involved in the kiss itself they don't know anything. Nobody cares. Drew, the more you defend your innocence, the guiltier you look.

On 7/31/2023 at 10:08 AM, Chatty Cake said:

 They know Ralph can be a jerk, I’m surprised they would want to give him something to use against her. I also think recording people without their knowledge is wrong. 

Marlo is really scraping the bottom of the barrel this season. It bothers me when she blatantly lies about someone or a situation, and then When it's clear she's lying, she dismisses what she said with "Well, it's my opinion."

On 7/30/2023 at 11:03 PM, swankie said:

Well, it is to Drew since it is affecting her marriage.  I put it in the perspective of not being any different than kissing and making out with another man. 

You're probably right, but I've yet to meet a man who considers a little lip action between women, cheating. And given what type of man Ralph is, I'm sure he would only be mad that he wasn't present to take part in it.

[Chalby]

One more comment, I hate when my replies are merged. I also dislike it when others are merged. Because I might want to give applause to one comment, and the thumbs up to another. This annoys me.

[Chalby]

On 7/24/2023 at 11:38 PM, ZettaK said:

It could be about Ralph because in the talking head which followed she said that she essentially doesn't trust Ralph when he (or she) is away. He was in Vegas when she was in Portugal. She also said that a female producer (?), not a Bravo employee was hitting on him. 

I love how the wives automatically assume a woman is hitting on their husbands. (As if these guys are just sitting there, minding their own business and these trollops come salivating for them.) We've all seen Ralph, and I can guarantee if anyone initiated flirting, it was him.

Sadly, we will all blame the woman if Ralph leaves the marriage for her, instead of looking at the rat himself.

[ZettaK]

17 hours ago, Chalby said:

You're probably right, but I've yet to meet a man who considers a little lip action between women, cheating. And given what type of man Ralph is, I'm sure he would only be mad that he wasn't present to take part in it.

Ralph is going to use the kiss against Drew judging by the previews.

Edited August 5, 2023 by ZettaK

[Stats Queen]

15 hours ago, Chalby said:

Sadly, we will all blame the woman if Ralph leaves the marriage for her, instead of looking at the rat himself.

Not me, I blame Ralph, who makes me want to Ralph. He’s such a controlling piece of 💩