RedRockRosie November 2, 2015 Share November 2, 2015 My heart breaks for his Mom. I can't imagine.....hoping all the love & prayers sent his way will help Nathan & his family. What a sad situation.....will send positive thoughts to them all. Loved him as Al/Michael & his romance with Marcy. I still miss OLTL every time I see the actors on other soaps...just not the same.. 2 Link to comment
Gigi43 November 4, 2015 Share November 4, 2015 (edited) I'm so sad about Nathaniel. Years back I auditioned for Who Wants to Be a Millionaire, and it was damp/drizzly, ABC make accommodations for the line outside or anything. Nathaniel happened to come outside and ended up spending quite a bit of time with the line asking random questions he could think of and taking to everyone (Melissa Archer and Kathy Brier popped over too at times.) He even tried to see if they'd speed up moving us inside! Kassie DePiva has posted two updates on her Facebook. For all his struggles his costars seem to like him. What a shame. Edited November 4, 2015 by Gigi43 1 Link to comment
dubbel zout November 5, 2015 Share November 5, 2015 I think Tom Degnan (one of the Joeys) is in a Ninja coffeemaker commercial with Sofia Vergara. He's got a beard, so it's hard to tell, but if it's him, he's turned into a real silver fox. Much more so than you'd think from seeing him on Limitless. Link to comment
Dandesun November 7, 2015 Share November 7, 2015 Kassie DePaiva and Tuc Watkins will be appearing on Castle. Not sure when or any details but when I hear I'll post more! 2 Link to comment
TeeVee329 November 7, 2015 Share November 7, 2015 I just saw the news posted on TVLine: http://tvline.com/2015/11/06/castle-season-8-cast-oltl-kassie-depaiva-tuc-watkins-reunion/ Sounds like Kassie and Tuc will be playing a married couple, how fun! 3 Link to comment
MSquared November 7, 2015 Share November 7, 2015 EEEEHHH!!! But in truth, I've been waiting for at least her to appear on the show. 3 Link to comment
ByaNose November 7, 2015 Share November 7, 2015 Here's another story: http://www.tvguide.com/news/castle-one-life-to-live-reunion-kassie-depaiva-tuc-watkins-darlene-vogel/ I'm glad Kassie is getting a prime time gig to show off her talents. Take that OLTL, GH & DOOL. 1 Link to comment
Dandesun November 7, 2015 Share November 7, 2015 And Darlene Vogel who played Dr. Lanie McIver will be there too. Link to comment
AndySmith November 7, 2015 Share November 7, 2015 I'd love to see Kassie get a regular gig. At the very least, you'd think someone would hire her as a trouble-making MILF on some ABC Family or CW show (since thats one of the few ways Hollywood sees women of a certain age). 2 Link to comment
tessaray November 7, 2015 Share November 7, 2015 I'd love to see Kassie get a regular gig. At the very least, you'd think someone would hire her as a trouble-making MILF on some ABC Family or CW show (since thats one of the few ways Hollywood sees women of a certain age). I don't usually watch NCIS but I happened to turn it on last week and was thrown by how much the actress who plays Bishop resembles a younger Kassie. It was uncanny, especially her facial expressions. http://www.hawtcelebs.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/emily-wickersham-at-2014-monte-carlo-tv-festival_1.jpg Link to comment
TeeVee329 November 8, 2015 Share November 8, 2015 And Darlene Vogel who played Dr. Lanie McIver will be there too. No offense to the actress, but ugh, Lanie was such a drip. I'd love to see Kassie get a regular gig. At the very least, you'd think someone would hire her as a trouble-making MILF on some ABC Family or CW show (since thats one of the few ways Hollywood sees women of a certain age). Speaking of...the TVLine article said that Kassie appeared on the original "Melrose Place". Does anyone remember this? Link to comment
AndySmith November 8, 2015 Share November 8, 2015 Yes. It was a small part in one episode. When Jo attends her high school reunion, Kassie is one of her bitchy (in a passive aggressive blond sorority girl kind of way) old classmates. The reunion plot was a bit nonsensical, as the reunion was in San Francisco but Jo graduated from high school in New York with a different family name...but that is a discussion for another forum. Link to comment
UYI November 10, 2015 Share November 10, 2015 I'm so sad about Nathaniel. Years back I auditioned for Who Wants to Be a Millionaire, and it was damp/drizzly, ABC make accommodations for the line outside or anything. Nathaniel happened to come outside and ended up spending quite a bit of time with the line asking random questions he could think of and taking to everyone (Melissa Archer and Kathy Brier popped over too at times.) He even tried to see if they'd speed up moving us inside! Kassie DePiva has posted two updates on her Facebook. For all his struggles his costars seem to like him. What a shame. I know both JDP and Fiona are much more private than Kassie, but since they played his parents, I wish we could hear from them on this. I know Jim stayed somewhat close to him. Link to comment
ByaNose November 10, 2015 Share November 10, 2015 I am surprised that Robert S. Woods or Erika Slezak hasn't appeared on Castle. They'd be perfect in a storyline with Susan Sullivan. 1 Link to comment
jsbt November 12, 2015 Share November 12, 2015 Per SOC and this from Ilene Kristen's FB, Nathaniel Marston has passed away. Link to comment
UYI November 12, 2015 Share November 12, 2015 RIP, Nate. You'll always be Max & Gabrielle's son to me. :( Link to comment
RedRockRosie November 12, 2015 Share November 12, 2015 So so sad to hear this.....he was way too young. I always felt he had something special...... My heart goes out to his loving family. 1 Link to comment
Gigi43 November 12, 2015 Share November 12, 2015 KDP posted it on her FB too. Very sad. Sounded like if he had survived his quality of life might not have been much. Still sad but at least he isn't lingering/suffering now. My condolences to his family. 1 Link to comment
Melgaypet November 12, 2015 Share November 12, 2015 What else can I say? It's just so sad. Link to comment
UYI November 13, 2015 Share November 13, 2015 MA shared this picture on Facebook, saying "You'll always be remembered." I know how private they both are, but I wish we could hear from Jim and Fiona. Their last big storyline on the show was Al's death. It must be deja vu all over again. 1 Link to comment
basiltherat November 13, 2015 Share November 13, 2015 My local news did a teaser "Soap opera star dies in crash" and for some reason, I immediately thought of Nathaniel, because he had gotten into trouble way back when. When the news said that it was him, I was sort of ashamed that I had immediately gone there. He was very good with Marcie. RIP. Link to comment
AndySmith November 15, 2015 Share November 15, 2015 He did a few more guest appearances and a movie beyond that, actually. Their last big storyline on the show was Al's death. It must be deja vu all over again. Er, not to sound mean or cruel, and this is a sad situation, but...no. We have no idea what they must be feeling, or how all 3 of them viewed each other. As much we like to think the actors have the same relationships sometimes as their characters do, we shouldn't quite assume how they are grieving or if they feel that they lost a son. Still, may he rest in peace. Link to comment
UYI November 15, 2015 Share November 15, 2015 (edited) He did a few more guest appearances and a movie beyond that, actually. Er, not to sound mean or cruel, and this is a sad situation, but...no. We have no idea what they must be feeling, or how all 3 of them viewed each other. As much we like to think the actors have the same relationships sometimes as their characters do, we shouldn't quite assume how they are grieving or if they feel that they lost a son. Still, may he rest in peace. JDP and NM stayed friends, but I know what you mean. I got the feeling they were somewhat close at the time, though--apparently Fiona would show up at Nate's apartment when he had a particularly early call time at the show and go to the set with him. I wasn't trying to be weird, the parallels are just interesting to me, and of course I'm a biased fan of M&G/the Holden-Medina family anyway. I'm sorry. Edited November 15, 2015 by UYI 3 Link to comment
AndySmith November 16, 2015 Share November 16, 2015 (edited) Oh, no need to apologize, I've been known to put unrealistic expectations on actors based on their characters myself at times (imagine my disappointment in the 90s when Gillian Anderson and David Duchovny said at the time how they weren't as close in real life as Scully and Mulder). I just think sometimes we need to step back and look at things from a more detached view. And I loved the Holden-Medina family too :) Edited November 16, 2015 by AndySmith 1 Link to comment
TeeVee329 November 18, 2015 Share November 18, 2015 In lighter news, our old friend Catfish Michelle has been cast in James Franco's HBO pilot: http://tvline.com/2015/11/12/deuce-cast-hbo-porn-drama-amber-skye-noyes/ Link to comment
jsbt November 19, 2015 Share November 19, 2015 I know there were rumors floating around that NM was getting in a number of quieter local scrapes in Reno. I hope that's not true. Link to comment
TeeVee329 November 20, 2015 Share November 20, 2015 Awww...David and Melissa Fumero are having a baby. http://abc.soapsindepth.com/2015/11/baby-on-the-way.html#more 2 Link to comment
Petunia13 November 21, 2015 Share November 21, 2015 Such sad sad news about Nathaniel Marston. I was really hoping for the best and a recover. Very tragic end. RIP Link to comment
bannana November 21, 2015 Share November 21, 2015 All I can think about is how Al died so young and that he was paralyzed himself at one point. So sad. :( I just learned of this on another thread, this is so so tragic, considering the struggles he had in his life, he got his shit together, and this. Heartbreaking. 1 Link to comment
bannana November 21, 2015 Share November 21, 2015 I'm saddened by the news, too, but not totally surprised. If I remember correctly, his life has pretty much been in tatters over the last few years since he got into that trouble. So much so, he got fired from OLTL and could only rely on one guest appearance on L&O: SVU. After that, I don't know if he was ever able to get work doing what he loved again. I do hope he rests in peace, though, and I wish his family well. No drugs or alcohol in his system according to the police. He did not wear a seat belt, which is ill-advised. I would just like this young man who died to not be remembered as for his "troubles". He had children and family and was loved. 2 Link to comment
UYI November 24, 2015 Share November 24, 2015 An old picture of JDP and NM in 2005 at a charity event. 3 Link to comment
jsbt December 2, 2015 Share December 2, 2015 (edited) Did you know Marvel's Jessica Jones got her start on OLTL? It's true! Well, actually Krysten Ritter (the titular Jessica Jones) was in a lot of things back then, but yes, she did a bit 11 years ago on OLTL, as "Kay" of "Kay & Kyle," twin assassins in black leather and sunglasses who finished each other's sentences and came to Llanview trying to kill David Tom's Paul Cramer. It was part of an absolutely horrendous subplot from the second Michael Malone run, where Marcie Walsh, Michael and John McBain, Natalie, Paul, wooden supermodel Kathy Tong and others were prowling around Roxy's Angel Square Hotel in this strange and convoluted cat and mouse game of crime and murder, while Nathaniel Marston and Kathy Brier got wet and naked on the roof. It was one of the weirdest two-three week periods I've ever seen on any soap, like something out of a stage play written on acid, and I've never forgotten it. Anyway, yeah, watch Jessica Jones. Edited December 2, 2015 by jsbt 1 Link to comment
Dandesun December 2, 2015 Share December 2, 2015 What?! I never would have made that connection. Hilarious. And, yes, watch Jessica Jones. Excellent. 1 Link to comment
jsbt December 2, 2015 Share December 2, 2015 I assure you, it was her! In big black sunglasses. I've never forgotten that nonsense. 1 Link to comment
dubbel zout December 2, 2015 Share December 2, 2015 wooden supermodel Kathy Tong Wasn't she WE NEVER CARED's sister or something, as well as being some sort of law enforcement? She was hilariously terrible. Krysten Ritter is always tremendous. 1 Link to comment
TeeVee329 December 2, 2015 Share December 2, 2015 Wow, I remember you talking about that bananas story on the old TWoP board, jsbt! Krysten Ritter being involved is the cherry on the nutty sundae! Also, yes to "Jessica Jones" and to Krysten Ritter, who've I've been a fan of since the "Veronica Mars" days. I'm so happy she's gotten such a great showcase. Link to comment
Dandesun December 2, 2015 Share December 2, 2015 I assure you, it was her! In big black sunglasses. I've never forgotten that nonsense. I had rather blissfully forgotten about that nonsense until you had to go and dredge it up again. Then again, you have long carried a torch for some of that flat out bizarreness from those days. Lionsheart and the mystical Arthurian fog that Antonio got lost in was another trip into weirdsville that you cackle delightedly over. Kay and Kyle. Cripes. I do remember that. I remember it being sheer WTF-ery at the time, too. "What is even happening here? What... I don't... WHAT IS THIS?!" Did the K-holes even have lines? I remember them being rather Terminator-esque in their stony, assassin silence. 1 Link to comment
TeeVee329 December 2, 2015 Share December 2, 2015 In other alumni news, Lenny Platt (Old Man Nate Salinger Ford) got a recurring role on "Quantico". He was on "How to Get Away with Murder" last year and also did a pilot for the network so ABC seems to be interested in making him happen. http://tvline.com/2015/11/24/quantico-lenny-platt-drew-season-1-cast/ Link to comment
jsbt December 2, 2015 Share December 2, 2015 (edited) Kay and Kyle. Cripes. I do remember that. I remember it being sheer WTF-ery at the time, too. "What is even happening here? What... I don't... WHAT IS THIS?!" Did the K-holes even have lines? I remember them being rather Terminator-esque in their stony, assassin silence. It's been a very long time but I feel positive they did - I remember them completing each other's sentences, like robots. It was a bad piece of creative flourish that may have sounded genius on paper but did not work onscreen, like most of Malone's insane ideas at the time. There's some Michael/Marcie stuff from those weeks on YT but I think it's been scrubbed of anything non-them. I have no clue if anything else from that is still on there, I haven't dug too deep. Part of the reason I gave Ron Carlivati a lot of credit early on at OLTL is that he often had a lot of the same instincts for humor or for truly weird ideas that that bizarre Malone II era had, but in his first couple years as HW I felt he often executed it much better. Malone II could not scrape together a single coherent frontburner story but had a lot of insane poetic touches and big thematic ideas that were well above the brief of their actual budget or scope, stuff only Linda Gottlieb could have pulled off. Meanwhile Ron took over and was doing several very good stories very quickly in a fraction of the time. He also reunited Bo and Nora in what I felt was a very good extended storyline, whereas all Malone ever managed for them was lame sidepieces and a series of pointless comedy sequences in which they would be trapped in confined spaces. (In fairness, that was also when the network was cracking down in a major way on using those veterans in their own stories at all.) Of course, by the time Ron was booted from the network this past summer he had gone deep into that same well with Malone II. And for all we know Ron wrote some of that Angel Square Hotel schtick! Edited December 2, 2015 by jsbt Link to comment
jsbt December 2, 2015 Share December 2, 2015 (edited) Wasn't she WE NEVER CARED's sister or something, as well as being some sort of law enforcement? She was hilariously terrible. Yeah, she was Caitlin's sister. That was when John and Natalie took a deep dive into hell for me and never really recovered. I was all about that couple during the Music Box Killer storyline (which veered wildly between really gritty and dark and legitimately good vs. campy and ridiculous supervillainy), but the minute they were about to consummate they threw a literal wrench in the works - John wasn't ready, and the next day here comes Kathy Tong, who can't act and is totally forced into the show overnight. There were other ways to prolong the payoff for the audience without doing something so artificial. They knew she didn't work, so they killed her off pretty fast and then threw Evangeline into the mix in an equally awkward and forced bit where John and Van got locked in a basement overnight, decided they were going to die and fucked. It was lame. Looking back at what's become of black representation on daytime in years since, I think I wasn't as sensitive as I could have been about the Evangeline situation. Yeah, she wasn't Rachel Gannon and yeah, I thought Evangeline as written was a cardboard saint and I was upset they weren't featuring people like R.J. - and yeah, a lot of her fans were fucking nuts. The show overpropped her, that's a given, and the character was a mess. But I always said REG was a beautiful and talented actress, and I think she's in Hamilton now on Broadway which I am dying to see. I'm legitimately happy for her success. The bigger thing, too, is that the idea of giving a woman of color a role of that size, with a lead like Michael Easton, would be unheard of on GH or any soap outside of maybe B&B today, and everything on B&B is transitory. To me it's important to recognize that. I think we took for granted they could always do better, that it was the 21st century and things would keep evolving, but on daytime in a lot of ways they didn't. The gay guys either had babies by women or died or left, and the shows that did progress didn't last. Television is still growing and changing, but not daytime. I frankly think Tika Sumpter is an incredible actress who the show wasted as Layla for years - they would never have paired Layla up with, let's say, Jacob Young or Billy Flynn or whoever else we have today, not in the last half-decade. But REG got the nod over ten years ago, she got the shot, and in a way, as lousy as I felt the story was and as poorly written as I often found Van, you can even call something like that major interracial romance to be a tiny inadvertent precursor to the stuff we saw on primetime now (Scandal, etc.). They were bold with the character out of a rushed necessity, but GH 2015 wouldn't even think of doing that with any woman of color. And in a dying daytime canvas where AMC 2.0 (which was built on the Hubbards) is gone, and Victoria Rowell is gone, and even Corbin Bleu and Laura Harrier on OLTL 2.0 are gone, I have to recognize that. If that makes any sense. Edited December 2, 2015 by jsbt 2 Link to comment
dubbel zout December 2, 2015 Share December 2, 2015 GH had Tom and SImone Hardy as an interracial couple before Evangeline was a gleam in anyone's eye, but I take your point. I always liked REG a lot more than Evangeline. Link to comment
jsbt December 2, 2015 Share December 2, 2015 They did, but Tom and Simone haven't been a factor on GH in twenty years. Link to comment
eXiled December 3, 2015 Share December 3, 2015 Re interracial couples: Layla would have worked with Brody, IMO. From the moment they met in that bar, I wanted to see more. I remember standing up while watching those scenes because their spark was so obvious. Tika and Mark had IT! And so pretty together. But Ron and Frank never deviate from their plans, chemistry be damned. I also wanted to see Rachel and Schuyler together, but we know how that turned out. I never cared one way or the other about the Evangeline character, except, perhaps feeling sorry for Renee because of some of the storylines. McBain dragged down all his love interests, IMO, and I felt badly that Van was glued to him for so long. 1 Link to comment
TeeVee329 December 3, 2015 Share December 3, 2015 I also wanted to see Rachel and Schuyler together, but we know how that turned out. I've said this various times in various places, but oh my yes, did I want to see Rachel and Schuyler. Daphnee Duplaix and Scott Clifton sparkled together. Link to comment
Melgaypet December 3, 2015 Share December 3, 2015 Yes, Schuyler and Rachel. I was looking forward to that pairing - they were so clearly being set up as a couple - but then that slash-and-burn happened Renee Elise Goldsberry had incredible chemistry with Dan Gauthier. They could have done something really cool with Kevin and Evangeline, I always wondered why they didn't. Evangeline was a Higley pet (which ruined the character), but did Malone create her? I remember she came on as Mitch Laurence's attorney and she was infinitely more interesting than the nauseatingly perfect moral paragon she became later. 1 Link to comment
UYI December 3, 2015 Share December 3, 2015 (edited) Malone absolutely created her, yes; she came on in mid 2003. I stopped watching for a long time before she became a saint, so I remember her mainly as RJ's one time girlfriend and as a tough lawyer. It's better that way. I have to give Malone a MAJOR side eye for reuniting Bo & Nora--he's the one who put them together to begin with, for God's sake!--but I do give him a LOT of credit for at least making Matthew Bo's son, IMMEDIATELY after Lindsay accidentally killed Sam. At least he got that right. Where the rumors about RSW and HBS keeping Bo & Nora apart for a decade valid in any way at all? Edited December 3, 2015 by UYI Link to comment
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