S10.07: Galaxy Gaslighting

[CallmeCray]

22 hours ago, JenE4 said:

Ariana taking Raquel’s side in the “mean girl” fight. 

I laughed so hard at James’s clipped “We’re not doing that today?” In response to Ariana’s  “I’m not doing  the Tom against the girls thing!”

Sandoval is getting incensed defending Raquel, but he always gets incensed at Katie and Lala so that doesn’t mean anything. Raquel bringing up Lala sleeping with James. I really hope nothing happened with her and Tom at this point the way she keeps throwing it around as an accusation. But either way, it wasn’t enough to stop herself from doing the same thing—but much worse (a relationship of a few weeks vs 9 years). What this did to me keeping this secret from me for years!! Oh, honey, this is just getting worse. You can put yourself in Ariana’s shoes based on firsthand, current experience! Ariana needs this squashed today!! Wow. No wonder why she didn’t see it. She’s unwilling to listen to anyone say anything bad about Raquel. Why?!?! Raquel still buzzing in the background about Lala being a mistress bimbo—and Ariana yelling staaaahp at Lala, not Rachel. Did Rachel just dab?!

Scheana doesn’t own the resort. Ooh! I take it back. “We’re not going to be like with binoculars.” *two weeks later* they’re standing literally over the wedding in their bathrobes! Lol. Of course they’ll crash other events just by proxy of wanting to hang out with others over the weekend. “Katie, stop! You’re being stubborn!” Uh, bub, that’s not how you plead with someone to come back! No wonder why she’s divorcing you! Not to mention the plan to pretend to work things our so you can trick her into giving up the room?! 

I didn’t take notes on James’s voiceovers, but he was pretty prophetic on everyone falling for Raquel’s act and taking her side. Granted, he was jealous about being pushed to the side for her…but I guess he’s back in now!

Oh, she sure did.  It definitely tracks with all of these victory laps we see her taking on the show.  Why not a little “see, I AM good enough!” dance move here and there?! 

It’s impossible not to see the setup for this cheating relationship of which we’re about to finally about to see the fallout.  She was ripe for the pickin and Pornstache was ready for the stickin.  Yes, she’s a full grown adult (well, mostly) and should have known better, but Tom Sandoval is a sleazy opportunist.  

Ariana will be fine.  I’m sad for her, yes - but she will be grateful that she is free of that relationship very soon.  Seems like they tolerated one another more than anything.  I am wondering if some of what we saw was a sort of resignation to continue their storyline for the show.  She didn’t seem to be too bothered that he was a worthless tool when it came to the situation with her pup.  I’m sure some degree of that was due to the fact that she’s used to him caring about NO ONE but Tom Sandoval, but  I think if she were still truly invested, that would have been a bigger deal to her.  

[njbchlover]

3 hours ago, heatherchandler said:

 

Or, she just didn't have the money.  Scheana said "something" happened with her deposit..  

 

That "something" was probably a declined credit/debit card and the bridesmaid never followed up, or maybe this bridesmaid thought she was getting a free trip to an all-inclusive resort and never made the deposit in the first place.

I'm assuming that the producers made all the arrangements for the needed rooms, but the wedding guests were required to pay for their accommodations. 

At this point in the show, they are what - two weeks before the wedding?  All of those rooms should have been paid in full at least 45 days prior to arrival, so there is more to this story than either Scheana or the bridesmaid is saying.

 

Edited March 24, 2023 by njbchlover

[whydoievencare]

3 hours ago, choclatechip45 said:

I don't blame Katie for not giving up her room. Scheana didn't even ask nicely. 

Except she could have gotten her money back and not had to travel to a destination wedding/resort that she might not have chosen to go to otherwise.  Personally, I would have been relieved to just get my money back! 

[IntrovertRed]

I’m with Katie, it’s not her problem. And I would go too.  

When Raquel was standing up to Lala, I was wondering how much of that was due to Tom’s encouragement due to their “relationship”. 

James cracks me up sometimes, and he talks so fast.

it drives me bonkers when Scheana wears her sunglasses on the bottom of her nose. Wear them or don’t, but you look like an idiot!

Schwartz telling Katie she looked pretty is so manipulative. I was married to someone who never stood up for me and was always nice to everyone else.  Schwartz is an asshole who acts the same way he did when he was 20 and I hate him just as much as Sandoval.  
 

Edited March 24, 2023 by KLJ

[princelina]

1 hour ago, CallmeCray said:

She was ripe for the pickin and Pornstache was ready for the stickin.  

Hahahahah!  You're hilarious 😂. And can someone tell me what "dab" means?

Edited March 24, 2023 by princelina

[hoodooznoodooz]

26 minutes ago, princelina said:

Hahahahah!  You're hilarious 😂. And can someone tell me what "dab" means?

https://www.dreamstime.com/photos-images/dabbing.html

 

[hoodooznoodooz]

James’s Venus is in the first house.

[princelina]

9 minutes ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

https://www.dreamstime.com/photos-images/dabbing.html

 

Ok thanks - I still don't get it 😄

[hoodooznoodooz]

I’m in the wedding. Otherwise I would bow out.

Bow wow?

[hoodooznoodooz]

Scheana demands that Brock kiss her for one minute once a day. And express daily gratitude together?

[hoodooznoodooz]

You know that when Ally breaks up with James, he’s going to call her a stupid astrology sl- -.

[hoodooznoodooz]

I’ve seen them stacked to the ceiling in her closet.

But that’s the first time I’ve seen LVP carry a Birkin.

[hoodooznoodooz]

8 hours ago, princelina said:

Ok thanks - I still don't get it 😄

Don’t worry. It’s silly. I only know because my son is thirteen.

Edited March 24, 2023 by hoodooznoodooz

[hoodooznoodooz]

 

3 hours ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

Scheana demands that Brock kiss her for one minute once a day. And express daily gratitude together?

 

Wait, Mike Shay started doing drugs again after they got married?

 

(I jest. I’m divorcing an addict, so I actually do know better, but… it’s Scheana!)

[JustbeingReal]

Ariana kind of seemed stressed when she was wearing purple. I wonder if she knew about Tom and Raquel a little bit in that scene. Tbh Tom and Ariana should have never gotten together. She always appeared annoyed with him imo then never taking his side in public. It was something she was the one standing up for Raq and Raq is going to be causing her pain in the end. Lala seems to have a Stassi type of attitude to me. She's used to getting away with everything with people. That's why she outwardely verbally abuses Raquel imo. 

Edited March 24, 2023 by JustbeingReal

[RoseAllDay]

Sandoval’s discomfort at seeing Rachel walk in to the bar is a dead giveaway. He looked more constipated than James, who, I’m happy to say, had the common sense to leave.

Rachel — cruel, calculating piece of work.

EDIT — This bar business/hobby. We’re ALL fucking over it, Sandoval. Your chef has NEVER run a kitchen before? It just keeps getting better. And saying they can’t open because they’re in Scheana’s wedding? Lisa, for the last time, cut the cord and let them sink or swim on their own. I am sick of people who basically play at having a serious business. 

Edited March 24, 2023 by RoseAllDay

[RoseAllDay]

This episode was the poor man’s Dinner Party from Hell. It was entertaining, but I won’t make it must-see TV going forward, LOL. 

Is it shitty that Katie is still going to the resort? Yes, kinda, because it’s under shitty pretenses. But what, exactly, does she owe Scheana? Is it shitty that she and Katrina apparently voyeur the wedding from their balcony? (Can’t wait to hear the commentary on that.) Well, again, Katie is gonna Katie.

I had to laugh at Scheana roping in Badass Schwartz to talk sense into his ex, but then him turning into the usual piece of Jello. Did I hear him right in the argument in the street — “You look cute?” LOL (actually, I thought she did. Loved the beret.).

The only chucklefuck I truly feel for here is James, of all people. He is truly odd man out in that group now, and it’s borderline cruel how he’s being treated. He should not have gone to the pool party, but I understand why he did. He still wants to belong. Not a healthy place he’s in.

Ariana…watching her is still hard, knowing what is coming.

[Gharlane]

12 hours ago, Jennifersdc said:

And I thought I heard Katie tell Scheana at the BBQ that she called the resort and they had rooms. Did I mishear that?

I think Katie said she called the resort and had no trouble adding Kristen to her room.

 

Edited March 24, 2023 by Gharlane

[Gharlane]

On 3/22/2023 at 11:19 PM, ZettaK said:

And I believe Randall owes him money that he gave in order to invest in a project (movie). Randall is a con, and also good at raising money as a producer. He didn't invest all the money required to produce a film himself.

LaLa probably got Jax's money.

On 3/23/2023 at 12:13 AM, ZettaK said:

Jax did something to his face. He looks different on WWHL. Fillers, and botox. 

It looked like bad acne to me.

On 3/23/2023 at 12:45 AM, princelina said:

The most disconcerting part of the episode for me was noticing all of the gray in Schwartz's beard 😳

I think that was his doppelgänger.

[bosawks]

Rand stealing from Jax is the most Jax thing ever.

[chlban]

7 hours ago, JustbeingReal said:

Ariana kind of seemed stressed when she was wearing purple. I wonder if she knew about Tom and Raquel a little bit in that scene. Tbh Tom and Ariana should have never gotten together. She always appeared annoyed with him imo then never taking his side in public. It was something she was the one standing up for Raq and Raq is going to be causing her pain in the end. Lala seems to have a Stassi type of attitude to me. She's used to getting away with everything with people. That's why she outwardely verbally abuses Raquel imo. 

I think Lala is way worse than Stassi. Stassi actually evolved and I remember some of her comments were pretty funny. She also worried about driving Beau away and at least tried to change. Lala thinks she is perfect. Nothing is ever her fault. She is vile.

Edited March 24, 2023 by chlban

[FozzyBear]

47 minutes ago, chlban said:

I think Lala is way worse than Stassi. Stassi actually evolved and I remember some of her comments were pretty funny. She also worried about driving Beau away and at least tried to change. Lala thinks she is perfect. Nothing is ever her fault. She is vile.

Maybe she plays it up for tv but I’ve always found Lala’s inability to engage in critical self reflection creepy. I agree with you that Stasi could be terrible but seemed capable of growth and reflection over time. Lala is just…empty. She reminds me of Jax in that way.

Edited March 24, 2023 by FozzyBear

[Mr. Miner]

There's probably time to edit out Scheana and Broke's wedding, would anybody care?

James still has the most punchable face of anybody on any current TV show.

[RoseAllDay]

9 hours ago, Mr. Miner said:

There's probably time to edit out Scheana and Broke's wedding, would anybody care?

James still has the most punchable face of anybody on any current TV show.

“Broke.” 😂.

Next storyline — he’s not supporting the ex and kiddos, he’s defaulted on his convoluted lines of debt, and Scheana’s mascara is running because she picked yet another loser, who she married at the equivalent of a royal wedding as if no one ever got hitched at a resort before.

The wedding is why I’m (admittedly) looking forward to Katie’s and Kristina’s play-by-play commentary like Statler and Waldorf on The Muppet Show.

I’m no big fan of James’s, but I’m even less of Rachel’s, so as of now I’m on Team James, until he does something stupid — again.

Edited March 25, 2023 by RoseAllDay
Fixed name.

[Jel]

I don't see that there's a definitive right or wrong thing to do regarding the resort room. But can no one ever just be the bigger person. Like ever? Just even one time?

Could Scheana just flipping let Katie attend or not attend the wedding? N, she can't because zoinks, *mY wEdDiNg!!!*. In my view, you get one "my wedding!!" opportunity in life -- sometime in your twenties, and for the first wedding. Anything after that and you just look pathetic, which Scheana does.

Could Katie, after meangirling Scheana for the past ten years just take the offer of money for the room and go stay at another resort? No, she can't because that would make it too hard to mock the wedding live and make her shitty comments to the other guests. Despicable.

Just once I would love to see one of them be the bigger person -- genuinely -- with no shitty, snarky, assholish comments in a TH after.  Are any of them capable of it?

[zenme]

On 3/23/2023 at 12:12 AM, GreenlinetoHarlem said:

And on tv! That whole thing was about sticking it to Rand.

Not trying to slut shame--because I had my college years too, but I certainly wouldn't discuss my past with the entire world, so that my kid can one day see this...

[hottesthw]

51 minutes ago, FozzyBear said:

Maybe she plays it up for tv but I’ve always found Lala’s inability to engage in critical self reflection creepy. I agree with you that Stasi could be terrible but seemed capable of growth and reflection over time. Lala is just…empty. She reminds me of Jax in that way.

Mr HottestHW has been forced to watch this show lately and his comment to me the other night while watching one of Lala’s talking heads was “what’s wrong with this girl?”referring to how she talks. And then followed up with “is this how you and your friends talked to each other when you were in your 30s”, because, gross”. And trust me Mr HHW is no prude. But thank god has matured since his 20s/30s. 

To which I replied “30s!? Pfft I was just telling the neighbor the other night how you were gonna bust my vagina wide open”. 

I mean do guys really get turned on hearing her speak like she does? And I thought I was all about girl power and what not, but I’m often mortified at how she talks on behalf of women everywhere. I have young daughters and I pray they don’t do what Lala does. Ever. 

[Mr. Miner]

Lala said her bed was so wet she couldn't sleep in it. Interesting?

[snarts]

Katie giving in to Scheana's demands would quite likely mean she'd miss out on being filmed which, based on her contract, might mean losing money. Add to that Scheana's shadiness in trying match up Schwartz/Raquel or spilling details of Katie's post-separation hookups to him. I don't blame Katie one bit for not caving.

I've absolutely no interest in seeing Scheana's second wedding. The only thing giving me life is the potential snark Katie & Kristina might provide. I actually wish they'd recruited Stassi & Kristen to go with theml!!

[princelina]

10 hours ago, JustbeingReal said:

Ariana kind of seemed stressed when she was wearing purple. I wonder if she knew about Tom and Raquel a little bit in that scene. Tbh Tom and Ariana should have never gotten together. She always appeared annoyed with him imo then never taking his side in public. 

I think she took his side in public a lot - she even reprimanded LVP on camera for ridiculing him!

4 hours ago, Gharlane said:

I think that was his doppelgänger.

Sadly it was not - Schwartz has a lot of gray in his beard. They're getting old on us! 😄

[albarino]

5 hours ago, Jel said:

don't see that there's a definitive right or wrong thing to do regarding the resort room. But can no one ever just be the bigger person. Like ever? Just even one time?

Thank you!  Seriously, has Katie ever been gracious?  She is just so dour.

4 hours ago, hottesthw said:

Mr HottestHW has been forced to watch this show lately and his comment to me the other night while watching one of Lala’s talking heads was “what’s wrong with this girl?”referring to how she talks.

And thank you!  I really don't care who Lala sleeps with but she is just so coarse.  Perhaps she thinks she is being young and edgy?This morning I was comparing her in my mind to the Countess; apparently she likes to sleep around as well.  The difference is that the Countess keeps a lot of it to herself.  Take that as a lesson, Lala.  You really can leave certain thoughts unsaid.

 

 

[Jennifersdc]

9 hours ago, RoseAllDay said:

“Broke.” 😂.

The wedding is why I’m (admittedly) looking forward to Katie’s and Katrina’s play-by-play commentary like Statler and Waldorf on The Muppet Show.

I’m no big fan of James’s, but I’m even less of Rachel’s, so as of now I’m on Team James, until he does something stupid — again.

Absolutely (to James too).

I cannot fault Kristina for making fun of Scheana’s terrible, ill-fitting, crop top dress at her last wedding. I think she goes for a Trashy Diva look and somehow just always misses the mark a little bit.

Scheana also generally annoys the shit out of me. Except when she’s singing and dancing. Then I think she’s hysterical. She should do more of that again.

[RoseAllDay]

8 hours ago, Mr. Miner said:

Lala said her bed was so wet she couldn't sleep in it. Interesting?

No. Just Lala. 

[Jennifersdc]

3 hours ago, albarino said:

Thank you!  Seriously, has Katie ever been gracious?  She is just so dour.

I’d probably be homicidal if I put up with Schwartz’s bullshit for all these years. It’s her own fault. And she seems to have no sense of humor whatsoever (neither does my mother - which is a shame cause I can be funny at times).

[Marley]

Raquel is insufferable. She’s trying so hard to come off as this bad bitch or something but it’s embarrassing. She’s just a stupid idiot.

LaLa is an idiot too. Another try hard.

Sandoval even sits like a douche.

The 2 weeks later thing made me crack up.

I don’t care about Scheana’s wedding at all. Does anyone? We already had to watch her first wedding.

I don’t get how this bridesmaid couldn’t be added to anyone else’s room. She waited until 2 weeks before to book her room too? Like something is off.

I wanna get to the good stuff now. Can’t we just skip the stupid wedding lol.

[ZettaK]

8 hours ago, Marley said:

Raquel is insufferable. She’s trying so hard to come off as this bad bitch or something but it’s embarrassing. She’s just a stupid idiot.

LaLa is an idiot too. Another try hard.

Sandoval even sits like a douche.

The 2 weeks later thing made me crack up.

I don’t care about Scheana’s wedding at all. Does anyone? We already had to watch her first wedding.

I don’t get how this bridesmaid couldn’t be added to anyone else’s room. She waited until 2 weeks before to book her room too? Like something is off.

I wanna get to the good stuff now. Can’t we just skip the stupid wedding lol.

I don't care about Scheana's wedding either. I'm sure they will be more (weddings) in her future. 

Edited March 25, 2023 by ZettaK

[JenE4]

7 hours ago, Marley said:

Raquel is insufferable. She’s trying so hard to come off as this bad bitch or something but it’s embarrassing. She’s just a stupid idiot.

It seems that Rachel studied up on how to be Bravolebrity. To make a name for yourself you really need to just start yelling at people for whatever perceived transgressions—and be sure to throw in some zingers. Rachel’s got the “standing up for myself” part down, but her delivery needs some work, as her “chihuahua followers” and whatnot is falling flat. Well, good news, Rachel, you figured out a way to make yourself the latest and greatest Bravo villain. You made it to the TMZ and Page Six paparazzi list. Fucking Sandoval behind her “best friend’s” back was the best thing she’s ever done for her macting career. Hey, she needed to come up with something to get attention now that she’s too elderly for pageants. 

[hoodooznoodooz]

Heehee. Kristina Kelly, Lala and Katie clarifying to Ariana that Rachel misunderstood: they liked her galaxy lighting.

[Drogo]

1 hour ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

Heehee. Kristina Kelly, Lala and Katie clarifying to Ariana that Rachel misunderstood: they liked her galaxy lighting.

They just thought she might murder them in their sleep because that’s what people with galaxy lights do.

[hoodooznoodooz]

The bed was so wet, they couldn’t sleep on it. Are they not using condoms?

[Drogo]

2 hours ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

The bed was so wet, they couldn’t sleep on it. Are they not using condoms?

I chose to hear it as “we both have incontinance issues.” 

[CallmeCray]

30 minutes ago, Drogo said:

I chose to hear it as “we both have incontinance issues.” 

I hope Rinna, the Olympic level opportunist, doesn’t see this!

[hoodooznoodooz]

I appreciate that James said to Rachel

(paraphrasing)

Can we agree that Lala has never liked you? So this is between you and her. There is no need to bring my name into this.

[Gharlane]

On 3/24/2023 at 11:37 AM, Mr. Miner said:

James still has the most punchable face of anybody on any current TV show.

I thought that dubious honor went to the man who hosts (or used to host) the "Weekend Update" segment of SNL?

 

On 3/24/2023 at 11:55 AM, RoseAllDay said:

The wedding is why I’m (admittedly) looking forward to Katie’s and Kristina’s play-by-play commentary like Statler and Waldorf on The Muppet Show.

BWAH! I love the visual of that! That might be the only good thing about this lame wedding. I wonder how Schemer and Brock are going to do this cheaply? Are they going to crash someone else's reception party? 

 

On 3/24/2023 at 12:27 PM, hottesthw said:

I mean do guys really get turned on hearing her speak like she does? 

They do, but they're not the kind of guys you want to have a long-term relationship with.

 

On 3/24/2023 at 9:09 PM, Jennifersdc said:

I’d probably be homicidal if I put up with Schwartz’s bullshit for all these years. It’s her own fault. And she seems to have no sense of humor whatsoever.

Yeah, I remember Katie going apeshit when Randal, I think, sent some fake cops to their party to arrest Schwartz for excessive noise or something. I am guessing she doesn't get invited to many bachelorette parties... 

 

On 3/25/2023 at 9:33 AM, JenE4 said:

Fucking Sandoval behind her “best friend’s” back was the best thing she’s ever done for her macting career. 

Was Raquchel ever a model? Wouldn't she be a pactor (pageant actor)? 🤔

 

On 3/25/2023 at 9:04 PM, Drogo said:

I chose to hear it as “we both have incontinance issues.” 

🤐

[goofygirl]

PACTOR!!!! Love it!! And YES, that's it exactly!!

[Gharlane]

On 3/23/2023 at 1:26 AM, ZettaK said:

Katie and Ariana will open their sandwich shop not too much later than the Toms will open S & S. S & S opened in early November, not August, of course. 

Sounds like that was one heck of a wedding to delay the opening for so long! 

[AnnieBananie]

On 3/23/2023 at 7:58 AM, bosawks said:

Your problem doesn't make it Katie's problem and of course she's going to spy on your wedding, so am I!

If Scheana doesn't want people spying on her wedding, why is she holding it out in public? Look at the "two weeks later" footage, and you can see lots of random people at the pool watching her walk down the aisle, filming her on their phones. It's hilarious.

 

Edited March 27, 2023 by AnnieBananie

[hottesthw]

On 3/27/2023 at 6:13 PM, AnnieBananie said:

If Scheana doesn't want people spying on her wedding, why is she holding it out in public? Look at the "two weeks later" footage, and you can see lots of random people at the pool watching her walk down the aisle, filming her on their phones. It's hilarious.

 

I would think having two people you don’t like show up just to make fun of you on tv is what her issue is. Considering one of them has done exactly that at her first wedding. That would be mine.

Katie is a hater and very immature and jealous. She’s reaping what she sows. And without having Randall’s money to flaunt Lala is desperate for relevancy so of course she’s joining in. 

[Vivigirl10]

Rewatching Season 2 and the group is going to Cabo for Stassi's 25th Birthday.  Everyone is HATING Scheana, fighting with her, not speaking to her, nobody wants her to go, but she was originally invited on the trip.  You guys, she literally looks at the camera and says, "I already paid for this vacation so I'm going on this vacation".........HA!  

I know, I know, one of Stassi's never ending Birthday celebrations and a wedding are two different things but it still kinda made me crack up 😆

[Drogo]

6 minutes ago, Kiki620 said:

Rewatching Season 2 and the group is going to Cabo for Stassi's 25th Birthday.  Everyone is HATING Scheana, fighting with her, not speaking to her, nobody wants her to go, but she was originally invited on the trip.  You guys, she literally looks at the camera and says, "I already paid for this vacation so I'm going on this vacation".........HA!  

I know, I know, one of Stassi's never ending Birthday celebrations and a wedding are two different things but it still kinda made me crack up 😆

Major difference being: someone is offering to give Katie her money back.