S01.E15: False Promises

[jewel21]

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A massive tree falls during a reforestation assignment, threatening Eve’s life and forcing Bode to step up and lead the rescue efforts.

Airdate: 03/03/2023

[circumvent]

1 hour ago, jewel21 said:

forcing Bode to step up and lead the rescue efforts.

And what is so special or new about that? Super!Bode! for the mommy rescue

[psychfan]

I wish they didn’t start with that flash forward. Because as soon as Rebecca stepped up to help with the branch it was clear she was a goner. Which cheapened everything else in both her scenes and those with/about Sharon.

[Rainbow]

 Of course they kill off the woman Bode has chemistry with and keeps the woman he has none with 🙄🙄

 

[Danielg342]

For "Dull".

As soon as I saw Bode running from the camp I had to engage in the Plot Armour Math to see who, exactly, made it out alive and who actually bit the dust.

It didn't take me long to reach two possible conclusions:

• Bode had a nightmare about Riley
• Rebecca, who was only there to "get in the way" of Bode and Gabriella, was the one who died.

Yeah, the episode set things up so that you'd think either Eve or Sharon died, but they're main cast members. Ergo, the Math says you then go to those who are not billed as regulars on the show, especially when said show hasn't completed one season yet.

So it was either Riley or Rebecca, a recurring character.

Of course, they could have went the route of inventing some character from Black Creek, the female camp (which now finally has a name), much like the show did in the episode dealing with the aftermath of the car crash on the bridge, but I guess the writers didn't want to go to that well again.

Besides, the only thing Rebecca did was "get in the way" of The Official Ship(TM). So it makes sense the writing crew wants to get rid of her.

I could go on a massive rant about Hollywood is mistreating women again, because Rebecca's demise is a clear signal that Hollywood writers still mainly only see female characters as love interests or family women of some kind, but many others have made that rant before and, at this stage, who knows if Hollywood is listening anyway.

I'll give the episode this much credit- at least they found a way to have some more drama surrounding Sharon's kidney other than "will she make it through the surgery or not?"

Of course, all that does is extend to the obvious season finale where Bode finally gets to donate his kidney to Sharon, with the finale ending as both go into the operating room and we're left wondering, in a faux cliffhanger to close the season, if both Sharon and Bode both make it out alive.

(I'm calling that a "faux" cliffhanger because we know Bode will make it off the operating table because Max Theriot is an executive producer on this show and a co-creator. Sharon might be more of a toss-up but shows don't typically make big changes to the cast after just one season. The big changes tend to happen during or after S2 when the show has the opportunity to get a S3 which would almost certainly guarantee a S4)

That's really all I have for this episode. Well, Manny may have another problem on his hands...but something tells me because they made it so obvious that the police were investigating him that Manny isn't the culprit- he's being set up.

We'll see I guess.

I just hope that effort will be better than the middling, go-through-the-motions effort we got tonight.

[possibilities]

I guess I'm just not in the mood for doom and gloom, so I was really not enjoying the episode, where I knew at least one of the female characters was going to die. I hate when a show deliberately fakes out the viewers for drama, but part of me was still hoping when he said "she's gone" in the beginning, that it wasn't actually a death, but alas! It was.

[buckboard]

The "donor had a bad reaction to the anesthesia" was hard to believe.  Wouldn't a donor for a major operation go through all kinds of pre-op checks, including whether he had a problem with anasthesia?  For that matter, right before the surgery Jake's mother trying to talk him out of going through with the donation was hardly the time to have that talk.

I hope Jake is never going to need a colonoscopy.  

[Dowel Jones]

Thing 1- Staff does not hand off crews to firefighters.  Captains only, thank you.  

2- No logger is going to leave a tree half cut.  That's how they make their money.

3- How long were they out there in the woods?  They arrive in the morning, walk maybe an hour, and in the end they're all wearing headlamps and the ambulance just got there.  And it would take too long to get the helicopter back?

4-  Is there no other overhead manager in that unit other than DC Leone?  She has to run the show even from the pre-op room?  God help them if a third incident occurs while she's on the table.

5- The port must be pretty close to the hospital for BC Leone to jump off the ship and make it to the hospital between the time that the nurse says "It's time" but before they wheel her into the operating room.

6-  Good for Manny to falsely take the blame for the accident, so that the worker won't lose his job.  After spending a couple of days in the ICU, assuming the reattachment goes well, and a year or so of physical therapy, he'll jump right back on board.  Okay, then.  And then Manny walks into the waiting room in his fishing clothes.  Yeah, that would go over real well.

Oooh, Manny's the arsonist!  Or not.  Like they would really tell him about the investigation ahead of time.

Alright, kill Bode's love interest!  How come she's the only female on this female crew?

[Artsda]

They killed off a good character that was helping do lawyer things and had chem, how stupid.

Sharon talking about what ever time she had left when she had another donor match right in the room? Obviously the reaction was just so the kidney could be from Bodi.

 

[possibilities]

A lot of TV shows lately are making waking up from surgery look like a lot of fun, because of the anesthesia/painkiller effects. I haven't had surgery in a long time, but as I recall, waking up from it was pretty lousy.

[The Wild Sow]

15 hours ago, buckboard said:

Wouldn't a donor for a major operation go through all kinds of pre-op checks, including whether he had a problem with anasthesia?  For that matter, right before the surgery Jake's mother trying to talk him out of going through with the donation was hardly the time to have that talk.

I hope Jake is never going to need a colonoscopy.  

He's a young, so far healthy guy who has probably never had anesthesia before.  And there's a difference between IV sedation (also called conscious sedation or twilight sleep) and general anesthesia (which paralyzes the body and requires intubation.)

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A lot of TV shows lately are making waking up from surgery look like a lot of fun, because of the anesthesia/painkiller effects. I haven't had surgery in a long time, but as I recall, waking up from it was pretty lousy.

Oh, I dunno - I had IV sedation twice in the last month - 2 cataract surgeries - and waking up was pretty OK! I actually have bits of memory and awareness from the 2nd one, although I was so relaxed they aren't traumatic at all.  I'm told this is very common with the 2nd surgery, because you build up a bit of tolerance after the first (but as my surgeon said, "how often in your life do you get anesthesia twice in 2 weeks?")

As for general anesthesia, I just know it's given me some pretty interesting dreams! When I had emergency surgery for a burst appendix (ouch!), I woke up thinking I'd had a liver transplant. And when they were prepping me, they explained the intubation and told me that when I started to wake up, I'd feel like I was choking, which was how they'd know it's time to remove the breathing tube -- "But don't worry, you won't remember this!"  And I said, "So why the heck are you telling me then?"

Edited March 4, 2023 by The Wild Sow

[circumvent]

1 hour ago, possibilities said:

waking up from it was pretty lousy.

When I woke up from anesthesia all I wanted to do was to sleep.

[circumvent]

The episode was really bad. The acting was below the show's average, which is already pretty bad. 

The actor playing Bode: he can play the perfect brooding type, he cannot play emotions. His grief was so fake, it was painful to watch. Add the actor who plays Gabriela to the scene, it was almost impossible to watch that first scene. I had read the forum before, so I know it wasn't Sharon who died but I so wanted it to be her.

The best thing of the episode was Billy Burke inserting snark when Sharon was filling up the papers. He was sighing and rolling hiw eyes, as was I. It was brief and subtle, but spoke a lot about how I feel about this episode.

Speaking of Sharon, can she just shut up for a minute, can she just find something else to do with her body and hands other than touch Vince every time they have an exchange? I find it endearing to see older couples that show affection but every sentence out of her mouth is a hug, a kiss, sitting on his lap, grabbing his neck. It is repetitive, it shows lack of talent to know how to position herself in a scene.

Gabriela was, again, dealing with personal stuff while on the job. This is really a no-no. Several calls to her father doesn't show worry, it shows distrust. Even if she distrusts him, it is not good for a person to feel such pressure without anything else coming from the closest person he has in his life.

the inmate crew continues to be way in the background. And now there is a doctor in the crew. Obviously, he will be forgotten - immediately. 

The tree was falling. Why didn't Eve step to the side instead of running along the path of the tree? And why didn't they drag her from under the tree from the start? What changed that they were able to do so when things got too bad for her? The show doesn't really give us logic, does it? They give us over dramatic situations with badly acted emotional scenes.

They are pushing Billy Burke to the background, he has absolutely nothing to do in the show, and he is, in my opinion, the only one who has a wide range of acting skills. The actor playing Eve can definitely act, but she is too theatrical, needs to tone down a little for the screen. The one playing Jake is pretty acceptable, as it was "Rebecca". "Manny" has his moments. That's it. The rest is, acting speaking, disposable. Yet, they are the ones dominating the scenes. 

 

[FnkyChkn34]

What are the odds that Sharon "saves" someone long enough for them to bond and then that person dies - but not before they say that she can have their kidney!  That saves both Bode and Sharon, yet is still completely predictable...

[mythoughtis]

How many planned live donor transplant surgeries are done after dark?  Sharon was still wide awake and directing traffic when it was dark at the logging site.    
So the arson storyline has resurfaced. I’m ready for new probie to get caught and go away. He’s almost as annoying as old probie. 

So the CO lets two prison crews go up the mountain three miles from him with only one person who isn’t used to being responsible for them.  Then he doesn’t come to the scene when that firefighter is injured and therefore incapable of being responsible for those prisoners.  

 

Edited March 7, 2023 by mythoughtis

[FnkyChkn34]

22 hours ago, mythoughtis said:

So the CO lets two prison crews go up the mountain three miles from him with only one person who isn’t used to being responsible for them.  Then he doesn’t come to the scene when that firefighter is injured and therefore incapable of being responsible for those prisoners.  

 

The CO was a painful caricature.  No one in that position would be that lazy and act like he did. 

However, they didn't seem to have the full cast there, as evidenced by only one woman and a handful of men.  So was that (a) on purpose as just the "trustworthy prisoners," or (b) the writers hoping that we wouldn't notice?

[b4pjoe]

Boy I liked the season premier. It is hard to believe how far it has fallen after 15 episodes. I had second hand embarrassment while watching it. Just horrible and exhausting. They should move it to daytime TV. Max may be wishing he had stayed with Seal Team.

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7 hours ago, FnkyChkn34 said:

The CO was a painful caricature.  No one in that position would be that lazy and act like he did. 

 

I don't know if there are big differences between COs in urban prisons and places like Cal Fire but that wasn't a caricature at all. They act like that and worse. Except for letting the inmates go basically on their own. I believe they would be fired for that, in case any of them escaped, or tried to. But as far as their demeanor goes, as far as how they treat people, it was pretty accurate (based on what Chris Hedges wrote with his students who are inmates in New Jersey, and what he saw and experienced himself being there)

[FnkyChkn34]

5 hours ago, circumvent said:

 

I don't know if there are big differences between COs in urban prisons and places like Cal Fire but that wasn't a caricature at all. They act like that and worse. Except for letting the inmates go basically on their own. I believe they would be fired for that, in case any of them escaped, or tried to. But as far as their demeanor goes, as far as how they treat people, it was pretty accurate (based on what Chris Hedges wrote with his students who are inmates in New Jersey, and what he saw and experienced himself being there)

A CO who is assigned to an urban prison is allowed to sit on his butt and do nothing, "rest his legs."  Are they really going to employ a CO at Cal Fire who is so lazy that he won't hike along with the group?  You said it - he'd be fired.  I assume his job description is to stay with the group at all times, not hand them over to a young, untrained firefighter.  We all know Bode is a nice guy and his inmate friends seem to be too, but what was really stopping any one of them from overpowering Eve and escaping?  They'd have to employ COs who know the job description and want to go on the hikes and whatnot.

[circumvent]

3 minutes ago, FnkyChkn34 said:

A CO who is assigned to an urban prison is allowed to sit on his butt and do nothing, "rest his legs."  Are they really going to employ a CO at Cal Fire who is so lazy that he won't hike along with the group?  You said it - he'd be fired.  I assume his job description is to stay with the group at all times, not hand them over to a young, untrained firefighter.  We all know Bode is a nice guy and his inmate friends seem to be too, but what was really stopping any one of them from overpowering Eve and escaping?  They'd have to employ COs who know the job description and want to go on the hikes and whatnot.

I agree. My observation was about his attitude, how he treated the inmates. They play on the power they have, even if that power is based on oppressing people who, aside from the fact they have been convicted (many, many times unjustly), just like them. But they act as if they are superior or better, when they are, for all purposes, criminals. That's at least 80% of the COs

[FnkyChkn34]

59 minutes ago, circumvent said:

I agree. My observation was about his attitude, how he treated the inmates. They play on the power they have, even if that power is based on oppressing people who, aside from the fact they have been convicted (many, many times unjustly), just like them. But they act as if they are superior or better, when they are, for all purposes, criminals. That's at least 80% of the COs

Oh yeah, for sure that part was pretty accurate.  My comment about him being a caricature was the "fat and lazy" part.  Such a horrible stereotype from the days of people thinking that cops just sitting around eating donuts.

[circumvent]

2 hours ago, FnkyChkn34 said:

people thinking that cops just sitting around eating donuts

Well, in my medium size city I see cops sitting around in their cars, a/c on, eating whatever they eat.

For a while their boss put them on bicycle patrol but that didn't last much 😂

 

[jabRI]

On 3/3/2023 at 10:54 PM, Danielg342 said:

I'll give the episode this much credit- at least they found a way to have some more drama surrounding Sharon's kidney other than "will she make it through the surgery or not?"

What's the big deal with the surgery?  Apparently the only prep needed for MAJOR TRANSPLANT SURGERY is one casual IV.  But please go about your business while we try to SAVE YOUR LIFE.

[Madding crowd]

On 3/8/2023 at 12:35 PM, circumvent said:

Well, in my medium size city I see cops sitting around in their cars, a/c on, eating whatever they eat.

For a while their boss put them on bicycle patrol but that didn't last much 😂

 

When my husband was a patrol cop he ate lunch in his car because he had to be available quickly in case they got a call. On top of that he usually only had 20 minutes or even less because he was needed for an emergency. 

[circumvent]

1 hour ago, Madding crowd said:

When my husband was a patrol cop he ate lunch in his car because he had to be available quickly in case they got a call. On top of that he usually only had 20 minutes or even less because he was needed for an emergency. 

It wasn't lunch that they were eating over here. They just sit in their cars in the parking lot and talk to each other for long periods of time. I know some of them. They are so bored that when there is an unhoused person in a vacant house 5 or more patrol cars arrive there to ask the person to leave. 

[Madding crowd]

That doesn’t relate to all or most cops though. Yesterday we had the funeral here in Chicago for a young cop shot to death in the line of duty and it happens pretty frequently. 

[LaylaGirl]

On 3/6/2023 at 8:52 PM, mythoughtis said:

How many planned live donor transplant surgeries are done after dark?  Sharon was still wide awake and directing traffic when it was dark at the logging site.

The whole time line in this episode drove me crazy. A transplant surgery would first thing in the morning and there would be way more preparation involved. She would not have any time to be talking on the radio. You don't go to surgery in a wheel chair - you go via a hospital bed.

The timeline was also way off for the crew in the forest. If they started their hike first thing in the morning, how were they still on their own after dark? Help would have arrived way before then.

[helpmerhonda]

I thought for sure we were heading for "Rebecca's dead and SHE'S A MATCH. Sharon can have her kidney."