S07.E22: Tell All Part 4

[gaPeach]

2 hours ago, Breedom said:

I had to laugh about Weeble Wobble Ed going to a speaking engagement, who the heck would hire this a-hole gaslighting abuser?

DickheadsRUS? 

[Frozendiva]

Jovi must have some well-off friends if they can all afford to go on an African safari. Those are pricey and I can see him only taking Yara on one - 2 year old Mylah would just get to travel and not really get anything out of it until maybe 10-12 years old. Jovi and his friends all had to ask for vacation time, probably get some vaccinations, maybe get a visa, etc. Yara’s cosmetic surgery was elective and she could have rescheduled a month or two later. Maybe Jovi could have cancelled, but folks book safaris a long time in advance - not just some long weekend visit with the guys and go to a football game. Of course she played the guilt trip in him only looking after her for 10 days. Surely they have a neighbor or friend to help out, or could have asked one. I don’t know if she is in it for a con or just until she meets someone else.

Why doesn’t she like New Orleans? Would she like living in some small town in the middle of a more agricultural state? Hello Rapid City! Does she not like that it isn’t sophisticated like Prague or Paris? She lives in a nice home, wants for nothing, except that she maybe wants a more glamorous city. She is not a happy person and will just take her misery wherever she goes. Jovi will not make her happy.

Dont know what her businesses make. There is a huge glut of makeup brands now and selling custom Chinese crap with her name on it is not the best idea. Work on a real collection. Women are smart and can buy indie brands that are cheaper than her repackaged  garbage products. Selling cheap Chinese clothes? Easy business for her and her demographic/followers. What is her brand, exactly? Just move cheap junk?

[Stuckathome]

34 minutes ago, gaPeach said:

Weeble Wobble Ed going to a speaking engagement, who the heck would hire this a-hole gaslighting abuser?

Well, Jesse of Darcy fame was working as a motivational speaker/life coach for a bit as well.....I still LOL at the clip of him at one of his engagements speaking to a bunch of senior citizens, half of whom were napping. 

[Welshman in Ca]

5 minutes ago, Frozendiva said:

Jovi must have some well-off friends if they can all afford to go on an African safari. Those are pricey and I can see him only taking Yara on one - 2 year old Mylah would just get to travel and not really get anything out of it until maybe 10-12 years old. Jovi and his friends all had to ask for vacation time, probably get some vaccinations, maybe get a visa, etc. Yara’s cosmetic surgery was elective and she could have rescheduled a month or two later. Maybe Jovi could have cancelled, but folks book safaris a long time in advance - not just some long weekend visit with the guys and go to a football game. Of course she played the guilt trip in him only looking after her for 10 days. Surely they have a neighbor or friend to help out, or could have asked one. I don’t know if she is in it for a con or just until she meets someone else.

 

I went to Kenya for my first honeymoon, 10 days at the beach in a 5 star hotel & 5 nights on Safari in the middle traveling to various places like Tsavo and it wasn't as expensive as I thought it would be but the jabs that you need were rough & I would imagine expensive (I was in the UK so zero cost) in the US, the Malaria pills had to be taken for 3 weeks before leaving, the 2 weeks we were there & then 3 weeks again after we got back. It was a fantastic vacation & still the best one I've ever had, can't say the same or the marriage 🤣.

[anoninrva]

13 minutes ago, Frozendiva said:

Jovi must have some well-off friends if they can all afford to go on an African safari. Those are pricey and I can see him only taking Yara on one - 2 year old Mylah would just get to travel and not really get anything out of it until maybe 10-12 years old. Jovi and his friends all had to ask for vacation time, probably get some vaccinations, maybe get a visa, etc. Yara’s cosmetic surgery was elective and she could have rescheduled a month or two later. Maybe Jovi could have cancelled, but folks book safaris a long time in advance - not just some long weekend visit with the guys and go to a football game. Of course she played the guilt trip in him only looking after her for 10 days. Surely they have a neighbor or friend to help out, or could have asked one. I don’t know if she is in it for a con or just until she meets someone else.

Why doesn’t she like New Orleans? Would she like living in some small town in the middle of a more agricultural state? Hello Rapid City! Does she not like that it isn’t sophisticated like Prague or Paris? She lives in a nice home, wants for nothing, except that she maybe wants a more glamorous city. She is not a happy person and will just take her misery wherever she goes. Jovi will not make her happy.

Dont know what her businesses make. There is a huge glut of makeup brands now and selling custom Chinese crap with her name on it is not the best idea. Work on a real collection. Women are smart and can buy indie brands that are cheaper than her repackaged  garbage products. Selling cheap Chinese clothes? Easy business for her and her demographic/followers. What is her brand, exactly? Just move cheap junk?

When they were introducing Jovi, he seemed to have some older friends from the Bayou, and some strip-club friends, but he very likely has friends from his offshore drilling who also have little time but (relatively) much money.  I still don't particularly like him, but I can sympathize that he doesn't have lots of spare time when he's working.  Yara choose to move even *further* away from her free childcare, and has the audacity to complain about it.  But, likewise, I can sympathize that the French Quarter is a great place to visit, and a horrible place to raise a family.  There is a little more to New Orleans, but it doesn't seem like Jovi showed her much of it.  I can't see her happier in Jacksonville or Orlando.  Maybe Miami Beach, but not for long.

The two businesses are exactly as you've described them.  Once her celebrity has faded, they will as well.

[Craigcodybazhate]

I just love when Michael says Me and Usman in same hotel. But this studio. Just a different studio across the hotel. I  was cracking up doing my Michael voice. He does it better then eddy Murphy. Had me laughing more to him then Eddy Murphy. 

Ed was about to get Fucked up by Jovi. That Louisiana came out. Jovi kept trying to tell ED nicely. I’m about to Whup yo Ass!!!! Why are you speaking to my wife? Don’t speak to my wife like that. 

[magemaud]

5 hours ago, Cementhead said:

Thank you to the magical man in the sky that she doesn't have a son or else she'd probably end up on Season 2 of MILF Manor.

She DOES have a grandson, Booger or something, but I think he’s about ten so we might be safe from being on the Meemaw Edition of MILF Manor. 

Edited January 24, 2023 by magemaud

[Frozendiva]

1 hour ago, anoninrva said:

When they were introducing Jovi, he seemed to have some older friends from the Bayou, and some strip-club friends, but he very likely has friends from his offshore drilling who also have little time but (relatively) much money.  I still don't particularly like him, but I can sympathize that he doesn't have lots of spare time when he's working.  Yara choose to move even *further* away from her free childcare, and has the audacity to complain about it.  But, likewise, I can sympathize that the French Quarter is a great place to visit, and a horrible place to raise a family.  There is a little more to New Orleans, but it doesn't seem like Jovi showed her much of it.  I can't see her happier in Jacksonville or Orlando.  Maybe Miami Beach, but not for long.

The two businesses are exactly as you've described them.  Once her celebrity has faded, they will as well.

It looks like her makeup line doesn’t exist any more.

https://screenrant.com/90-day-fiance-is-yara-lying-businesses-america/

[anoninrva]

12 minutes ago, Frozendiva said:

It looks like her makeup line doesn’t exist any more.

https://screenrant.com/90-day-fiance-is-yara-lying-businesses-america/

That's pretty small numbers with YouTube.  They changed their monetization policy last year.  She likely doesn't qualify for anything.

[Breedom]

6 hours ago, Welshman in Ca said:

John also said on pillow talk that "Liz & John sounds good". Go for it I say, would love to see small Eds head explode at John and the fireworks that would ensue.

John  - please call Liz. Shorty would be too intimidated to confront John and she'd be rid of this baggage for good.

[1011101010001]

19 hours ago, anoninrva said:

Yara's going to be just as unhappy in Florida.

They have swamps and gators too lol.  I don’t think Jovi can afford Miami Beach or Boca Raton.

18 hours ago, Chalby said:

while Angela tries (unsuccessfully) to pretend men are lusting after her.

I can’t imagine a man getting aroused in Angela’s presence.  She is the human boner killer.

Edited January 23, 2023 by MrBuhBye

[1011101010001]

18 hours ago, bravofan27 said:

He does not talk or act like a 50 year old man. 

Closer to 60.

8 hours ago, Mahamid Frauded Me said:

Oh spill the tea please

I think it’s in the couples thread.  Something about a big drug bust in Baton Rouge.

[1011101010001]

9 hours ago, Mahamid Frauded Me said:

Jovi was right, Ed is going to get his ass handed to him one day.

And then he will play the victim that some meanie picked on the innocent disabled guy who just wants to find love.

6 hours ago, Breedom said:

First, Andrei, who I always liked, now has become annoying to me - commenting negatively on Jovi's looks was just rude and totally unnecessary.

Neither one has the face of a male model so Andrei should zip it. 

[1011101010001]

6 hours ago, Breedom said:

. The trip was probably scheduled for some time and then Yara wanted her surgery and couldn't wait.

Just like she couldn’t wait ten days to go to Prague.  She is an infant.

6 hours ago, Breedom said:

Speaking on what exactly?

Maybe the photography lesson he never gave Liz.

6 hours ago, magemaud said:

Ed has one he'll sell her for only $ 13,000! 

Guess no one told Ed 13 is an unlucky number.

[1011101010001]

5 hours ago, magemaud said:

I never understood why Yara couldn’t occasionally stay at Gwen’s when Jovi is away. She’d have built in babysitting while she conducted her online business. 
She’s so entitled and manipulative and I can see why everyone is turning against her. 

I don’t know why Yara didn’t find a place near Gwen’s house.  Actually I do, she wanted someplace bougie and Gwen lives in the bayou.  So Yara picked the apartment while Jovi was at work and couldn’t point out the stupidity of the location.

Wouldn’t it make sense for Gwen to help out three consecutive days?  She could stay over two nights and then just make one round trip a week (four hours of driving) versus three (twelve hours).  I’m sure Yara prefers the help spaced out over the week but you know what they say about beggars.

Edited January 24, 2023 by MrBuhBye

[JeanJean]

I tend to like Yara and Jovi equally. They seem to take turns being the ahole (can I say that?) and not being the ahole equally, so it seems to work out in a weirdly balanced kind of way.

Please, please, God or Discovery, no more Ed. Please. The thing about a crazy person like Ed is you can't deal with them rationally. If you try to, and they're the only other person there, it makes you feel like you're the crazy one. I think that's why Liz is so much better when she's with others.  Don't know how to "be in a relationship," Ed? For starters, try being nice.

And Liz needs to think of Ed like he's a taser. Would you keep knowingly walking into one? Probably not.

Edited January 24, 2023 by JeanJean

[1011101010001]

Ed judges Liz for her two failed marriages but he cheated on his first wife so he was clearly at fault.  We don’t know if Liz was at fault in her marriages.  And then he had no relationships for 30 years which is super abnormal.  I bet he was paying escorts during that time.  He claimed it was because he was raising his daughter but it seems like she spent half the time in Vegas with her mom and Ed’s mom was helping when he had custody.  Obviously single parents can date and especially so when the child is older.  Ed didn’t need to wait until his daughter was 30.

Edited January 24, 2023 by MrBuhBye

[magemaud]

2 hours ago, Frozendiva said:

It looks like her makeup line doesn’t exist any more.

But she still sells makeup in her boutique. 

[Breedom]

5 minutes ago, MrBuhBye said:

Wouldn’t it make sense for Gwen to help out three consecutive days?  She could stay over two nights and then just make one round trip a week (four hours of driving) versus three (twelve hours).  

It would make sense because of such a long drive back and forth, but I don't think Gwen was up for being a three-day babysitter. And IMHO why should she? She's 56 years old (or so) and has a life outside of being a grandma. Why can't Yara deal with taking care of Maya on her own when Jovi isn't there? Thousands of women are able to juggle motherhood and everything else. But Yara, the princess can't deal. It's not like she's working an 8-5 job, either. She sees herself as such a strong woman. Yeah, right. I can't see her managing two kids; she'd really fall apart.

[magemaud]

4 hours ago, Frozendiva said:

Maybe Jovi could have cancelled, but folks book safaris a long time in advance - not just some long weekend visit with the guys and go to a football game

My theory is that he was going with some of the guys from work, we know they make good money and like to travel on their time off. It might be something they've been planning for years. 

[Frozendiva]

11 minutes ago, MrBuhBye said:

I don’t know why Yara didn’t find a place near Gwen’s house.  Actually I do, she wanted someplace bougie and Gwen lives in the bayou.  So Yara picked the apartment while Jovi was at work and couldn’t point out the stupidity of the location.

Wouldn’t it make sense for Gwen to help out three consecutive days?  She could stay over two nights and then just make one round trip a week (four hours of driving) versus three (twelve hours).  I’m sure Yara prefers the help spaced out over the week but you know what they say about beggars.

Wonder if they paid anything for Gwen’s gas and vehicle maintenance costs. Is she going to sleep on the couch? Is it a pull out sofa bed? Would they pay for a hotel? Probably not. Do they consider Gwen’s own life and any free time? Gwen has made it clear that she is Grandma and not an unpaid nanny. 

Why didn’t Gwen recommend areas that had amenities like grocery stores, drug stores, coffee places, parks, stuff, daycare centers,  that a new mom might find convenient? Public transit if no extra vehicle? Maybe she did, but Yara didn’t listen. Did they get Gwen a nice gift card or take her out to dinner for helping out?

[1011101010001]

7 minutes ago, Breedom said:

It would make sense because of such a long drive back and forth, but I don't think Gwen was up for being a three-day babysitter. And IMHO why should she? She's 56 years old (or so) and has a life outside of being a grandma. Why can't Yara deal with taking care of Maya on her own when Jovi isn't there? Thousands of women are able to juggle motherhood and everything else. But Yara, the princess can't deal. It's not like she's working an 8-5 job, either. She sees herself as such a strong woman. Yeah, right. I can't see her managing two kids; she'd really fall apart.

Yeah it still is unreasonable but it seems out of the two choices it’s the better option and they never consider compromises.  Yara should come stay with Gwen but even when she had Covid she didn’t like it and preferred to be in the supposedly horrible French Quarter rather than the bayou.  Probably because she couldn’t get Starbucks.

Edited January 24, 2023 by MrBuhBye

[magemaud]

7 minutes ago, Frozendiva said:

Why didn’t Gwen recommend areas that had amenities like grocery stores, drug stores, coffee places, parks, stuff, daycare centers,  that a new mom might find convenient?

I don't think Yara took anyone's advice when she found the apartment, her main goal was to get out of the city. When she moved, I don't think she even had a driver's license or car to use and then found herself stuck out in the boondocks by herself. 

[Frozendiva]

9 minutes ago, magemaud said:

I don't think Yara took anyone's advice when she found the apartment, her main goal was to get out of the city. When she moved, I don't think she even had a driver's license or car to use and then found herself stuck out in the boondocks by herself. 

So stupid. Either Jovi, one of his friends or coworkers, or even Gwen could have helped make a list of things to be near in terms of walking or car or bus and found two or three neighborhoods that met those requirements. So you don’t get stuck in the boonies. Did she visit these apartments or condos, talk to the management company about nearby amenities or just found a pic of one she liked and that was it - home sweet home.

[Baltimore Betty]

I was watching an episode of Below Deck and one of the guests was a short, portly man, my husband walked into the room and did not know what show I was watching and asked me if that was that nasty Ed guy...I've never been prouder. My husband, I think I'll keep him.

[JeanJean]

10 minutes ago, Baltimore Betty said:

 

There are also online sites/apps that will show you where grocery stores, restaurants, etc. are in relation to an address. Mapquest does that, or used to.

21 minutes ago, Frozendiva said:

So stupid. Either Jovi, one of his friends or coworkers, or even Gwen could have helped make a list of things to be near in terms of walking or car or bus and found two or three neighborhoods that met those requirements. So you don’t get stuck in the boonies. Did she visit these apartments or condos, talk to the management company about nearby amenities or just found a pic of one she liked and that was it - home sweet home.

Meant to put it here.

Edited January 24, 2023 by JeanJean

[Craigcodybazhate]

2 hours ago, Breedom said:

John  - please call Liz. Shorty would be too intimidated to confront John and she'd be rid of this baggage for good.

Thank you Breedom. 

Can we establish something on 90 day fiancé???? Liz is hot!!!!!!!!!!

[Joan van Snark]

9 hours ago, Stuckathome said:

Has anyone ever asked WHY she is so miserable in Louisiana? They seem to have a lovely home. Her free babysitter who she says is her American Mom is even moving to be closer to her and the baby. She allegedly is running a wildly successful business from the comfort of her own home. What will she get in Florida that she doesn't have? She is a sad, empty person who is traumatized by what was probably a very hard scrabble upbringing after her father left her mom. She had tons of plastic surgery with the whole purpose of trapping a man with money to maintain her in a certain lifestyle. She just doesn't like her life and is an empty shell. No matter where, no matter with who, Yara will NEVER be "happy." 

Great post!  I live about 20 miles from where Yara and Jovi now live and Ms. Gwen is exactly right.  That is quite a drive from where she lives, including driving through the traffic in Jefferson Parish (adjacent to New Orleans) and then across the 30 mile Causeway bridge.  Jovi is obviously willing to do anything to try to make Yara happy, including dumping on his own mother.  

I totally agree- what is magically available in Florida that will make Yara happy?  Is Jovi willing to dump a well paying career just to please her?  Is he going to be able to continue working offshore if he lives in Florida?  If not he will be throwing away a very lucrative career that would set him up well for the rest of his (and his daughters) life.  I think Yara would totally leave Jovi if something better came along.  Jovi is immature and has faults, but he seems like a decent guy and I feel sorry for him.

[magemaud]

I got the impression that Jovi could live anywhere that he could get to his job by plane. 

[Frozendiva]

55 minutes ago, magemaud said:

I got the impression that Jovi could live anywhere that he could get to his job by plane. 

This Screenrant article claims that Jovi’s job now keeps him in only Texas and Louisiana.

https://screenrant.com/where-90-day-fiance-couple-jovi-yara-live/

[Breedom]

2 hours ago, Joan van Snark said:

I totally agree- what is magically available in Florida that will make Yara happy?  Is Jovi willing to dump a well paying career just to please her?  

Yara probably envisioned herself living in NYC, just like Mimosa who was dying to move to Los Angeles. Both hated where they ended up. I don't think Yara ever gave New Orleans a chance. Personally, I loved my visit there.

I have to give it to Jovi for trying to make his marriage work. What he said at the fess-all, moving to FL because Yara was so unhappy. He's clearly prioritizing his wife over his mom and his love of New Orleans. I don't know if things will work out; I think Yara just doesn't want to be married, but at least Jovi will know he did everything he could. Yara just wants to live independently, be a "strong" woman just like Darcy (haha) - and do what she wants when she wants to do it. 

[1011101010001]

57 minutes ago, magemaud said:

I got the impression that Jovi could live anywhere that he could get to his job by plane. 

Yeah Yara said he could even live in Europe.

2 minutes ago, Breedom said:

Yara just wants to live independently, be a "strong" woman just like Darcy (haha) - and do what she wants when she wants to do it. 

And will end up looking like Darcey and alone like her.

[Frozendiva]

9 hours ago, Welshman in Ca said:

I went to Kenya for my first honeymoon, 10 days at the beach in a 5 star hotel & 5 nights on Safari in the middle traveling to various places like Tsavo and it wasn't as expensive as I thought it would be but the jabs that you need were rough & I would imagine expensive (I was in the UK so zero cost) in the US, the Malaria pills had to be taken for 3 weeks before leaving, the 2 weeks we were there & then 3 weeks again after we got back. It was a fantastic vacation & still the best one I've ever had, can't say the same or the marriage 🤣.

Prices vary. I checked the Costco travel site and one luxury safari was around $20,000 US. Most seem to be in the $4-10,000 range, depending on your budget. Don’t know if it includes airfare from western Canada.

if I had a husband and he had plans with his buddies to do something like this, no problem.

[Lurk]

I think that the Yara-boob-job timing with Jovi's-safari-w/friends was a bit tit for tat on Yara's part. I'm so miserable and I never get to do anything for myself and you are gone at work and going on a safari so I'm getting a boob job before you go.

 

[magemaud]

1 minute ago, Lurk said:

tit for tat

Literally! 

[Midwestern Lady]

I had no problem with Jovi going on safari.  That is not a last minute type of trip.   Yara was at fault for taking that date for her elective surgery.   Also, I think Jovi and Yara are both individually good looking and an attractive couple.

[Breedom]

9 hours ago, Lurk said:

I'm so miserable and I never get to do anything for myself and you are gone at work and going on a safari

This sounds exactly like Yara! There was nothing wrong with Jovi going on Safari by himself, I was surprised that everyone ganged up on him at the fess-all. 

9 hours ago, Frozendiva said:

if I had a husband and he had plans with his buddies to do something like this, no problem.

Same here. 

[Stuckathome]

I have said it before, will say it again---Yara and Jovi are doomed. It is just a question of who cried uncle first and files. I see so many similarities with my first marriage it is uncanny. Particularly with the living situation. We did not have kids, but he always made the excuse that he couldn't do more around the house or spend more time even at home because he had a horrible commute. Fact: his commute was average for our area (DC metro). Fact: he chose the location of our home in very western burbs not close to public transit and then bitched about how far it was from the city. Fact: I tried for a year to get him to move to a location closer to public transit in the burbs. He always found an issue with the house. I found homes in the actual city, was willing to empty a big portion of my retirement and all of the inheritance from my mom to put a decent down payment. He bitched that it was not in a nice enough neighborhood and was too far from the metro (it was 1/2 mile walk or quick ride on a bus) even though he had ZERO savings to contribute. Instead he picked out homes $500,000 upwards OVER our budget and then tried to find some way to get older relatives or even my elderly (and wealthy childless) mentor to gift us a down payment. Nothing was ever good enough because the simple fact was, he enjoyed continuing to live like a single guy. Going out to happy hour every single night in the city while I was home in the burbs handling everything. We don't keep in touch but I do often wonder how he is handling life on his own without my income to finance his travels and partying (he earned about 1/2 of what I do).....

Edited January 24, 2023 by Stuckathome

[magemaud]

Andrei SO wishes Libby looked like Yara! 

[AR Traveler]

My husband and I visited New Orleans for a far-belated "honeymoon", and it was a blast.  So much history and culture, great music and food like you can't believe.  That said, it's not "bougie" (at least not what we saw on a short trip), and I get that parts are dangerous, but I don't think crime entered Yara's mind when she chose that remote apartment.  I think Yara's an unhappy person who would be miserable in Bel Air.  No matter where you go, there you are.

I've wondered for a long time about Jovi's ethnicity; is he Cajun and does that play into his relationship with his mother, which is very normal for him?  It doesn't seem dysfunctional like Coltee and Debbie's.  If that is so, then I also don't think Yara gave Jovi's culture a fair chance.  It's gators, rice, and crawfish boils, not a Prague apartment.

[Mr. Miner]

19 hours ago, magemaud said:

She DOES have a grandson, Booger or something, but I think he’s about ten so we might be safe from being on the Meemaw Edition of MILF Manor. 

Actually they are giving Angela a spin off, it will be called BARF Manor.

[JeanJean]

How did Yara have the money to buy that apartment if she wasn't supposed to work before getting her green card?

[Welshman in Ca]

9 minutes ago, JeanJean said:

How did Yara have the money to buy that apartment if she wasn't supposed to work before getting her green card?

You don't actually need a green card to work, there's also a work permit and the only thing you really need with it is a SS#, for an actual job obviously. A business based on internet sales (as hers supposedly is) can be run from anywhere in the world and unless the IRS took a really close look at it nobody really cares, they have much bigger fish to fry even though they rarely do.

And maybe she had money from a venture before she even met Jovi. I had money from my house sale which was sat in a UK bank and I could withdraw it via an ATM or I could have transferred it to a US bank account, but no bank would give me an account without a SS# so it's a catch 22 anyway.

Edited January 24, 2023 by Welshman in Ca

[Craigcodybazhate]

Sources Liz is back with Big ED photos taken with Big Ed’s mom and Liz. 

[Craigcodybazhate]

YARA was gonna whup Jovis ass. But YARA is stupid why you moving to Florida when big Gwen is moving closer to you in Louisiana to help with the baby? 
 

YARA is so set on New Orleans. YARA just wants to be in Florida cause she wants to be in Miami. 
 

when they visited Miami she liked it so much. When they visited Las Vegas she liked it so much. She’s asking for everything. He let you stay in Prague with yo homegirl. I don’t get it. Now you want to move to Florida. 
 

like I said what YARA wants she gets. 
 

 

YARA needs to stop listening to her homegirls. She’s hollering because they moved away from the city in the country ? What’s wrong with that? It’s too quiet. 
 

he support her business. 

[LGGirl]

1 hour ago, JeanJean said:

How did Yara have the money to buy that apartment if she wasn't supposed to work before getting her green card?

Pretty sure she expected Jovi, the sap, to pay for it. 

She wants to live in Miami, looking for her next husband. 

[Baltimore Betty]

I was a little surprised to hear Shaeeda say she wants to eventually get her boobs done, (she quickly added after she has a baby), I thought in her religion it was basically what ever you look like is how you are, not changing any of Allah's work sort of thing. I would be more than a little surprised if Bilal agreed AND paid for it!

Angela was drunk when she went to Kim's room, she was slurring her words and telling Kim that she and Usman will be together again as a romantic couple...I guess for another season of money they might do it but I would hope Kim would never think they are meant to be married.

 

[Frozendiva]

Vegas is a great city for a short visit. Life there? Who knows. Lots of high end luxury shops in Vegas. Yara would like that. Plus a 3 or so hour drive to LA.

I assume Miami is also like that. Playground for the rich. It is possible that Yara would be looking at other options if she could live there. Close to the beach and the beautiful people.

Maybe Shaeeda wants a simple lift surgery. 

[magemaud]

55 minutes ago, Baltimore Betty said:

I was a little surprised to hear Shaeeda say she wants to eventually get her boobs done, (she quickly added after she has a baby), I thought in her religion it was basically what ever you look like is how you are, not changing any of Allah's work sort of thing. I would be more than a little surprised if Bilal agreed AND paid for it!

I found this info: "According to the Modest Muse, a website specialising in Muslim teachings, breast surgery is permissible if there is an incidental disfigurement of the breast that is causing severe embarrassment. Modifying the breasts is also permissible if the shape or size is off-putting to a woman's husband."

So I guess if Bilal is turned off by their small size, she could get her boobs done? We'll never know since he's the only person who would ever have any idea how they look under those baggy clothes

[Shauna]

22 hours ago, Breedom said:

It would make sense because of such a long drive back and forth, but I don't think Gwen was up for being a three-day babysitter. And IMHO why should she? She's 56 years old (or so) and has a life outside of being a grandma. Why can't Yara deal with taking care of Maya on her own when Jovi isn't there? Thousands of women are able to juggle motherhood and everything else. But Yara, the princess can't deal. It's not like she's working an 8-5 job, either. She sees herself as such a strong woman. Yeah, right. I can't see her managing two kids; she'd really fall apart.

It's ridiculous that Yara says she needs help.  She and Jovi CHOSE to have a baby.  Then it is their responsibility to care for this baby.  This has nothing to do with Gwen and I'm glad that she hasn't dropped everything to help them.  I think it might be a cultural thing, too, because Yara said that in her country, the grandmother was here to help with everything.   They shouldn't have had a baby if she wasn't willing to do the work.  She knew she'd be alone given Jovi's work schedule, but I think she assumed Gwen would be there to help out a lot.  She reminds me of Pao and Russ.  Pao wasn't happy in Oklahoma and they moved to Miami to make Pao happy. 

I don't know how Jovi takes Yara's bitching.  Her voice and rapid talking were too much. And I only had to listen for the 20 seconds they were at the curb waiting for car service.  Hopefully, its all for the show and she really isn't this way in real life.  Doubtful, though.