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9 hours ago, andromeda331 said:

The link doesn't work. At least for me. 

You have to watch it on youtube itself. After you push play on the video, there will be a link to watch it on youtube.

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16 hours ago, andromeda331 said:

The link doesn't work. At least for me. But Elena was awesome.

Click on Watch on YouTube. 

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7 hours ago, peachmangosteen said:

You have to watch it on youtube itself. After you push play on the video, there will be a link to watch it on youtube.

 

32 minutes ago, Sew Sumi said:

Click on Watch on YouTube. 

Thanks I'll go do that.

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21 hours ago, HartofDixie said:

Chellsie Memmel is back! Announcement at the end of the video.

 

Is she going to be a specialist like Oksana Chusovitina? 

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5 hours ago, ML89 said:

Is she going to be a specialist like Oksana Chusovitina? 

She’s been mainly doing beam but started bars and vault. I think being a specialist is the best option.

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On 7/27/2020 at 4:58 PM, Growsonwalls said:

In Khorkina's defense in Sydney the vault was set 5 cm too low and so many people bombed their vaults. An incredibly dangerous situtation and I;m shocked it even happened.

But I also wondered why she was considered the star of that Russian team when so many wonderful gymnasts were also on the team. For instance they had Yelena Produnova who might be one of the best vaulters of all time. 

And Produnova was competing with a broken foot as well.

 

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20 hours ago, Growsonwalls said:

Some tea being spilled about Texas Dreams:

 

Considering that she trained with the Karolyis for so long, it's not really surprising that Kim Zmeskal is the kind of coach who yells at her gymnasts and sees injuries as a sign of weakness. I'm not excusing her attitude, but that's the kind of gym she grew up in so it makes sense that she thinks that's normal behavior.

But this really points to why it's important to break the cycle and coach without being an asshole. Valorie Kondos Field (the former head coach at UCLA) has shown that you can be a kind, supportive coach without humiliating and abusing your athletes. We really need to stop perpetuating the idea that screaming at athletes (in any sport, but especially sports like gymnastics where they start training so young) is motivating and acceptable. It's not tough love. It's abusive and damaging.

After watching the first four seasons of Last Chance U, I was sick of hearing the football coaches berate their athletes and tell them what worthless pieces of shit they were every time they made a mistake. You can coach and direct and enforce with rules without being an abusive asshole. If your friend or spouse yelled those things at you constantly, people would say that you were in an abusive relationship and to get the hell out, yet somehow it's perfectly acceptable for adults to yell these things at children for not performing perfectly at sports. It's mind boggling that this is considered acceptable behavior just because you have a visor and a clipboard.

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If you are looking for something gymnastics related to watch, there is a webseries about UCLA's 2020 season. They began filming during the spring before the COVID shutdown.

Warning: the first episode was not edited well so it looks like exactly what it is - a bunch of footage slapped together with no narrative. And unfortunately, whoever shot the actual gymnastics footage for this episode think that we've all wondered what a bars routine looks like from the chest up. But from the second episode on, the editing improves and I ended up really enjoying this mini series.

Initially you will recognize Kyla Ross and Madison Kocian but you get to know a lot of the other gymnasts as the season goes on.

Episode 1:

Episode 2:

Episode 3:

Episode 4:

Episode 5:

Episode 6:

Episode 7:

Bonus: first day of practice (shot last month):

 

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7 hours ago, ElectricBoogaloo said:

If you are looking for something gymnastics related to watch, there is a webseries about UCLA's 2020 season. They began filming during the spring before the COVID shutdown.

Warning: the first episode was not edited well so it looks like exactly what it is - a bunch of footage slapped together with no narrative. And unfortunately, whoever shot the actual gymnastics footage for this episode think that we've all wondered what a bars routine looks like from the chest up. But from the second episode on, the editing improves and I ended up really enjoying this mini series.

Initially you will recognize Kyla Ross and Madison Kocian but you get to know a lot of the other gymnasts as the season goes on.

Episode 1:

Episode 2:

Episode 3:

Episode 4:

Episode 5:

Episode 6:

Episode 7:

Bonus: first day of practice (shot last month):

 

I accidentally got hooked on college gymnastics in the spring after giving it a try because I missed gymnastics so much. I forgot until I started watching that Madison and Kyla had gone to UCLA. It was so great seeing them! Through reruns of previous seasons seeing Jordyn Wieber, Maggie Nicholas and others. There's a lot of other good gymnasts too.  

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9 minutes ago, andromeda331 said:

I accidentally got hooked on college gymnastics in the spring after giving it a try because I missed gymnastics so much. I forgot until I started watching that Madison and Kyla had gone to UCLA. It was so great seeing them! Through reruns of previous seasons seeing Jordyn Wieber, Maggie Nicholas and others. There's a lot of other good gymnasts too.  

I'm super lucky because I live near a PAC-10 campus which means I can go watch the meets live. It's so fun! Somehow I've never seen UCLA though. Usually that's either an away meet or I totally forget about it until two days after it happened.

I LOVE college gymnastics. It's so much more fun to watch than elite. Watching the girls dance along to each other's floor routines always makes my day!

I really enjoyed the behind the scenes stuff and getting to see the girls outside the gym. After knowing how high stress it was to compete as an elite, it makes me so happy to see them having fun and being silly with each other.

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8 minutes ago, ElectricBoogaloo said:

I'm super lucky because I live near a PAC-10 campus which means I can go watch the meets live. It's so fun! Somehow I've never seen UCLA though. Usually that's either an away meet or I totally forget about it until two days after it happened.

I LOVE college gymnastics. It's so much more fun to watch than elite. Watching the girls dance along to each other's floor routines always makes my day!

I really enjoyed the behind the scenes stuff and getting to see the girls outside the gym. After knowing how high stress it was to compete as an elite, it makes me so happy to see them having fun and being silly with each other.

I love watching the girls dance to each other's floor routines! It was so nice and so cool. I wasn't sure what to expect since but the floor routines are so much fun. Lots of dancing along with plenty of skills. Their all well choreographed. I remember when the elite used to have that. So far I like UCLA the best but don't have a team I dislike. Some of the balance beam routines have been amazing too.

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11 minutes ago, andromeda331 said:

I love watching the girls dance to each other's floor routines! It was so nice and so cool. I wasn't sure what to expect since but the floor routines are so much fun. Lots of dancing along with plenty of skills. Their all well choreographed. I remember when the elite used to have that. So far I like UCLA the best but don't have a team I dislike. Some of the balance beam routines have been amazing too.

That's why I hate the new code of points for elite gymnastics. They have to pack as many tricks and elements into their routines to increase their start value that they don't have time to dance and have any fun.

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29 minutes ago, ElectricBoogaloo said:

That's why I hate the new code of points for elite gymnastics. They have to pack as many tricks and elements into their routines to increase their start value that they don't have time to dance and have any fun.

So do I. I liked it best when it was a mixture of dance and skills that was choreographed. The routines were so great and gymnasts looked like they were having so much fun. The floor routine was the only one you really got a chance to see gymnast's personality. It was always fun to see what each one came up with. I love tricks and watching them get more and more difficult especially Simone's but I never wanted to lose the dance.

 

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New York Times did a interview with Maggie Haney but in my opinion it's a complete puff piece.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/30/sports/olympics/gymnastics-abuse-laurie-hernandez-haney.html

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“I think my mistakes were that I cared too much, and wanted them to be a little too perfect every day, when maybe that’s not possible,” Haney, one of the most prominent coaches in the sport, said this month in an interview with The New York Times

She seriously said her mistake was she cared too much 🙄

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UCLA's Nia Dennis (who graced us with her amazing Beyoncé routine last year) is back with another floor routine that's already gone viral:

 

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50 minutes ago, ElectricBoogaloo said:

UCLA's Nia Dennis (who graced us with her amazing Beyoncé routine last year) is back with another floor routine that's already gone viral:

 

I love the team mates and coaches along the sidelines grooving right along with her.

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5 minutes ago, doodlebug said:

I love the team mates and coaches along the sidelines grooving right along with her.

That is one of my favorite things about watching college gymnastics! I love seeing everyone join in like they're having a dance party in someone's dorm room.

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I love college gymnastics! Nia is definitely one of the best. She was awesome last year and looking just as great this year.

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TV ALERT:  Simone Biles will be featured on CBS "60 Minutes" tonight. It's on at 7 pm EST (golf permitting) and it also will be on the CBS On Demand channel.  It's the 3rd segment so it will probably be on around 7:35ish.  

 

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14 hours ago, emmawoodhouse said:

I wonder who's choreographing UCLA's floor routines now that Miss Val has retired? They're earning their paycheck. 

UCLA gymnasts like Nia Dennis are going viral. Their secret weapon is choreographer Bijoya Das

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“B.J.” Das, a volunteer assistant coach for UCLA Gymnastics. Her choreography is a mix of traditional gymnastics moves and dance trends you might see on TikTok.

Das tells KCRW that the team always inspired her, and she was a collegiate gymnast too. 

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She says UCLA stands out with its culture of integrating dance and gymnastics, and other teams are following suit. “It really brings a wider audience to watch sport. … We definitely have a bit of fearlessness when it comes to just trying things that aren't very traditional in the sport of gymnastics.” 

Doing this integration is difficult because many of the gymnasts don’t have formal dance training, Das notes. “And if they do, maybe it's a ballet instructor coming in once a week to work on their turnout and their posture. But it's generally not a whole lot of extra time that you can dedicate to dance. Because especially in the elite world, there's hours and hours dedicated to all four events. … But I think like for athletes who make that [combining dance] a priority, it can definitely be done. … It would be lovely to see that more artistry, I think, just across the board.”

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Das adds Dennis’ father was involved with the dance steps during Missy Elliott’s “Pass That Dutch” song. 

“Her dad was in a fraternity, and he had a bunch of different step routines. And so we ended up FaceTiming him and asking him to show us some cool step moves from his college days. And so he ended up putting on his boots and his UCLA sweatshirt. He sent us these tutorials and we're like, ‘We have to include this interchain.’ So the choreography is actually from her dad.” 

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Das says she’s not paid for her work with the UCLA Gymnastics team, but she does get paid for running UCLA’s recreational program and summer camps. 

 

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Wow. I normally don't judge suicide because I can never judge someone in so much pain, but this sort of suicide is so cowardly. So Jeffrey Epstein-like.

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https://www.espn.com/olympics/gymnastics/story/_/id/30969557/court-documents-detail-deceased-coach-john-geddert-alleged-abuse

I'd like to think that the problems with this sport end here, but we all know it doesn't.  How does gymastics ever recover?  They need to blow up the entire system from the bottom up and start over.  And if we miss a few medals in the Olympic cycles then that is PERFECTLY FINE.  

Twistars must have been hell on earth for those poor girls.  

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Former British gymnasts allege decades of physical, psychological abuse

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The litany of allegations by 17 female claimants includes bullying, controlling behavior and inappropriate use of physical force against athletes as young as 6 years old in a "winning at all costs" mentality.

Their notice told British Gymnastics that they are seeking financial compensation and an acknowledgement of negligence. The law firm representing the group of women -- who now range from 15 to 43 years old -- expects the number of gymnasts to increase and possibly include men.

 

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