S02.E05: Doll On Doll

[AnimeMania]

Devon worries that Good Chucky can't be trusted; Tiffany spirals from the surprise party.

Premiere Date: November 2, 2022    9pm   SYFY / USA

[Spartan Girl]

Andy!!

I KNEW the shrink was in on it. And Bald Chucky being the Colonel ala Brando is just perfect.

So Nica wasn’t the only prisoner of Tiffany. Jennifer Tilly is alive in the doll body. Almost has had it as bad as Nica. And Andy.

The return of the Glen/da doll! Guess we’ll be hearing Billy Boyd soon…

Yeah, I’m on Devon and Lexy’s side. Jake is being incredibly insensitive, even if Good Chucky is legit. They’re not going to feel the same way about forgiveness as Jake, and he’s only doing to salve his conscience.

[Chaos Theory]

Chucky  just pulled a “Luke I am your father”  moment with Tiffany and Glen.  Jennifer Tilly still exists inside a doll inside a cage inside an old house trapped by Tiffany Valentine who stole her body and life.  I love the shot of humans in the front seat with living dolls in the back seat that this series does.   Loved seeing Meg again and having her find her real sister at last only to die at Tiffany’s hands was this shows  kinda creepy tragic.

Good Chucky is really kinda fun.  I love his relationship with Jake who needs him to be different then the rest of the Chuckys.  But I also like that Devon sees him as just another Chucky who wants to hurt him.  I am liking the relationship between Lexy and Nadine.  Lexy needs a good friend who doesn’t want anything but friendship from her.     

The Chucky graveyard was kinda creepy.  

Edited November 3, 2022 by Chaos Theory

[Spartan Girl]

10 hours ago, Chaos Theory said:

Good Chucky is really kinda fun.  I love his relationship with Jake who needs him to be different then the rest of the Chuckys

I don’t know. Every inch of me is screaming “it’s a trap!” because it feels like Jake is being played perfectly into Team Chucky’s hands, alienating him from Devon and Lexy. I guess he’s still in the abused child mindset: last season he said he was sure his father would change if he just got to meet Devon, and that seems to be repeating itself with this Chucky.

On a sidenote, Jennifer Tilly continues to bring it. Whether she’s Tiffany or herself, she understands the assignment when it comes to campy fun.

[blixie]

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Every inch of me is screaming “it’s a trap!” because it feels like Jake is being played perfectly into Team Chucky’s hands, alienating him from Devon and Lexy. 

It could be but again I really hope not, just let Unicorn Chucky be like Reprogrammed Terminator. It's a good tension to play for sure, but I think Lexy's point, that he wasn't brainwashed he was brain bleached, means this doll isn't really Charles any more, in terms of personality at least.

But also I think the show is skating right up to the edge of just too much tragedy happening to the group, they need a win, and I'll take Unicorn Chucky sacrificing himself and Jake being right about him as at least a partial  win, but also that Lexy/Devon are correct that even if Unicorn Chucky is "real" he's a long term threat.

Having said all that I laughed like a loon through the whole doll v. doll fight, it was everything I hoped for and more, especially when he used the bible and then la la la'd after winning. 

[Clovis2HeadMule]

I wonder if Chucky's blood getting in Jake's eye in the beginning is setting up some kind of Jake/Chucky possession.  It might have just been a cool camera shot (through the keyhole) but since they did that whole "blood triggers Chucky" thing with Nica, I think Jake getting Chucky's blood in his eye/blood stream might head in an unexpected place.

I LOVE Meg Tilly and she was wonderful, and her death was brutal in several ways.

I'm thinking the Colonel is that random killer from the first season that Chucky "helped" by murdering his Mom.

[Spartan Girl]

22 minutes ago, Clovis2HeadMule said:

I'm thinking the Colonel is that random killer from the first season that Chucky "helped" by murdering his Mom.

I thought the Colonel was revealed to be Bald Chucky. And may I just say that Brad Dourif does a pretty mean Brando impression.

The doll fight was pretty funny. But the fact that Buff Chucky wasn’t really dead just makes me more suspicious of Brain Bleached Chucky. And yeah, Jake getting Chucky’s blood in his eye might lead to something bad.

Maybe the shrink is related to the random killer from Chucky’s past though. Or maybe Chucky himself—his grandma or aunt, maybe?

Edited November 3, 2022 by Spartan Girl

[Spartan Girl]

52 minutes ago, blixie said:

But also I think the show is skating right up to the edge of just too much tragedy happening to the group, they need a win, and I'll take Unicorn Chucky sacrificing himself and Jake being right about him as at least a partial  win, but also that Lexy/Devon are correct that even if Unicorn Chucky is "real" he's a long term threat.

See, that’s the thing about this franchise: the good guys never catch a break. Andy and Nica’s lives have been a never ending cycle of suck since Chucky entered their lives. Jennifer is so broken by years of imprisonment that Tiffany can shut her up just by threatening to take away her candy. Even when they “win” it doesn’t change the fact that people are dead and nobody ever believes them, and their only reward is a short respite before Chucky comes after them again.

[blixie]

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the good guys never catch a break

Right but I think what worked in a film series isn't going work as well in a tv show, so the small wins are more important Nica's escape and Unicorn Chucky being for real are great moments, it's okay to let them breathe. It's really amazing to me just how much the Child's Play franchise and Terminator franchises have in common, in that the good guys are chased/haunted by a relentless killer/outcomes but they still continue to fight against it with all they have.

[Clovis2HeadMule]

1 hour ago, Spartan Girl said:

I thought the Colonel was revealed to be Bald Chucky. And may I just say that Brad Dourif does a pretty mean Brando impression.

Well, yes, he was, but there seems to be more to this than meets the eye.  Unless I guess all the different Chucky dolls grew into different personalities as they... matured?

Interested in seeing where it all goes.

[Spartan Girl]

52 minutes ago, blixie said:

Right but I think what worked in a film series isn't going work as well in a tv show, so the small wins are more important Nica's escape and Unicorn Chucky being for real are great moments, it's okay to let them breathe. It's really amazing to me just how much the Child's Play franchise and Terminator franchises have in common, in that the good guys are chased/haunted by a relentless killer/outcomes but they still continue to fight against it with all they have.

I would like the good guys to get a win by the end of the season: Nica getting rid of her Chucky piece and joining Andy and Kyle's found family, Jennifer to get her body back, and for the Trio to be all good again. I just don't think Unicorn Chucky being for real would be a win. Even if Jake turns out to be right, accepting a Chucky into the fold would be too much to ask for Devon and Lexy -- and I doubt Andy and Nica would be so welcoming (justifiably so).

[blixie]

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Even if Jake turns out to be right, accepting a Chucky into the fold would be too much to ask for Devon and Lexy 

He can be right about Chucky w/o Lexy or Devon accepting him into the fold. That's the point. It's a win for Jake that he could trust his instincts. 

[Chaos Theory]

The Doll on Doll violence this season has gotten out of hand.  To all the dolls out there.  It gets better. 

Jennifer Tilly continues to be hilarious being a version of herself being possessed by a sociopath.  Something about the way she said “I was never very good at being Jennifer Tilly.”  Made me chuckle.

Jake and Devon can both be right about Chucky.  That is the point and the tragedy of their fight.   Jake needs Good Chucky to be a real thing because Good Chucky is a literal symbol of hope and redemption for him.   But Devon only sees the carnage of Charles Lee Ray and everything the Chucky dolls have cost them all.

Edited November 3, 2022 by Chaos Theory

[Spartan Girl]

1 hour ago, Chaos Theory said:

Jake and Devon can both be right about Chucky.  That is the point and the tragedy of their fight.   Jake needs Good Chucky to be a real thing because Good Chucky is a literal symbol of hope and redemption for him.   But Devon only sees the carnage of Charles Lee Ray and everything the Chucky dolls have cost them all.

True, but the way Jake is going about it feels wrong. At the moment, he seems more concerned about Good Chucky’s feelings while dismissing Devon as being “overdramatic.” He keeps forgetting that he’s not the only one that’s lost people to Chucky. Hence, Lexy and Devon looking angry and betrayed when watching him and Nadine “baptize” Good Chucky.

[Chaos Theory]

24 minutes ago, Spartan Girl said:

True, but the way Jake is going about it feels wrong. At the moment, he seems more concerned about Good Chucky’s feelings while dismissing Devon as being “overdramatic.” He keeps forgetting that he’s not the only one that’s lost people to Chucky. Hence, Lexy and Devon looking angry and betrayed when watching him and Nadine “baptize” Good Chucky.

I read somewhere that Good Chucky is the embodiment of his foster brother.  Jake is damaged and has been for a long time now and to get a second chance might be blinding him.  I am not saying Jake is right but I am saying that we are watching a horror story and the horror is that Jake’s need is valid and understandable.   

[Alice Mudgarden]

On 11/3/2022 at 10:43 AM, Spartan Girl said:

See, that’s the thing about this franchise: the good guys never catch a break.

On 11/3/2022 at 11:26 AM, blixie said:

 the good guys are chased/haunted by a relentless killer/outcomes but they still continue to fight against it with all they have.

On 11/3/2022 at 12:21 PM, Spartan Girl said:

I would like the good guys to get a win by the end of the season.

Hee!

[PurpleTentacle]

How do these guys not get how resilient a Chucky is? They saw some chucky heads living independantly from their bodies. Why would they think a stab through the heart was enough? I would only be sure if I had destroyed the brain and preferably, hacked the body in tiny pieces.

So Tiffany kept the real Jennifer Tilly in a cage for all these years? Well that's a fun surprise. I loved the exposition and the lampshading.

In this episode there is a "Chucky goes Psycho" poster on the wall. No sign of a sequel. So I'm even more confident now that somebody fucked up and put the wrong movie name in the script of episode one, when they called it "Bride of Chucky".