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I don't know how true this, but I read on line that Eddie refused to appear on the reunion show. they even offered him more money and refused it.

 I don't know if I believe this. Apollo and Peter of ATL have said they don't get paid to appear on the show or at the reunions - the HWs do. Mama Joyce of ATL also confirmed she doesn't receive payment for appearances on the show. Eddie is far less interesting than Apollo, Peter, and Mama Joyce so I find it hard to believe he was offered anything.

 

I hope Shannon and David opt out of another season. It seems they made a lot of progress with their marriage and they should really focus on their marriage/family. The flirting convo was so awkward though and I'm not crushing on David anymore. Shannon looked like she wanted to cry. I do hope David stops with the flirting. I know some men are naturally charming, but David talking about Vicki's bra or whatever was said was absolutely inappropriate.

 

Heather's new cut makes her look quite harsh. I love blunt bangs on a woman with a sharp cut, but it's not cute on Heather. Also, how can she say there's a difference between kicking someone out of her home and asking them to leave? It's the same thing.

 

On a shallow note, I loved Vicki's red dress! I thought she looked great.

 

Tamra is still a lying liar who lies. She couldn't even talk herself out of the 'take the Beaudors' down comment.

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 I don't know if I believe this. Apollo and Peter of ATL have said they don't get paid to appear on the show or at the reunions - the HWs do. Mama Joyce of ATL also confirmed she doesn't receive payment for appearances on the show. Eddie is far less interesting than Apollo, Peter, and Mama Joyce so I find it hard to believe he was offered anything.

If they said that, they are lying. They are all paid.

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For the record I thought the Vickster looked damn good in that dress. Just as it was. I think she should have gone with a strappy sandal though. The ones from last season's  finale would have been perfect. She looked the best she has in years.

 

Shannon looked good.

 

Heather I liked her dress not her hair.

 

Tamera's choice of dress was the same type she usually wears but it didn't hide the ugly.

 

The cut and color of Lizzie's dress did nothing for her. She confirmed as I have always thought, she's a hard fit so she buys what is available at the moment.

 

I hated all the shoes worn during this finale.

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Guess it was out of the question Danielle would be asked to the reunion, eh?  Idk, it looked awfully sparse on those couches with only 5 women there.  I don't think this was the original game plan for this season.  Oh, I'm sure they wanted Danielle full time, but that woman did something.  What heinous horrible terrible awful thing did the woman do that warranted Satan Andy & the other vile producers to X her out like she never existed?  

 

Will we ever find out the true answer to the mystery of disappearing Danielle?  Was her "crime" that she's married to a man everyone thinks is gay -- or is it something she did?  I care nothing about or for Danielle from the little we've been allowed to see of her.  But I'm more curious what she could have done to motivate the awful producers go to such effort, to go back & cut her -- especially in the crappy way they ended up editing her out.

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If they said that, they are lying. They are all paid.

Teresa said once (yes, I know she is a liar) that Juicy refused to do any TH interviews after the first season because he hated them, even though it meant a financial loss. I do think they all get something, but their overall level of participation (like spending the extra hours doing the interviews) is what makes them real money.

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Vicki's hair and makeup looked lovely. I loved the color of her dress but not the huge plunging neckline - ugh. Loved the color of Tamra's dress -- too bad she's a vicious little troll.  Someone should tell  her that she looks OLDER when she gives those mean dirty looks to people or wrinkles her bunny rabbit Botox nose in distaste.  I still like Heather but feel she made a wrong move in ganging up on the Beadors. The Heather and Tamra Ecosystem -- which I call HATE for short because that's what it spells out -- is not good for anyone -- not for them, the show or the audience.  The HATE dynamic is a toxic mix of vulgar meanness and shameless elitism just pretending to be so self-righteous by bullying anyone who gets in their way.  Run, Heather, run.  Look at what happened to Gretchen once she accepted Tamra's fake offer of friendship.  I am glad Eddie did not go the Reunion. He deserves better.

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If they said that, they are lying. They are all paid.

According to Alex McCord the husbands are not paid.  The minor children are not paid either.  Whenever these folks divorce there never seems to be any indication the husbands are receiving a salary.  When Giudices filed BK the income from Bravo was listed as Teresa's income.  None for Joe.  I would hope if they do a spin-off or a special the husbands would get paid.

 

I think when the RH hurls an insult that a certain husband should be holding a peach the implication is the husband wants a paycheck.

 

Having said that I do wonder if Terry Dubrow isn't paid.  He made the statement he won't be back next year.  Of course he has separate deal with Evolution Media-who writes all the paychecks for the RH.  I have often wondered about Slade getting a paycheck and Joe Gorga.

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 I don't know if I believe this. Apollo and Peter of ATL have said they don't get paid to appear on the show or at the reunions - the HWs do. Mama Joyce of ATL also confirmed she doesn't receive payment for appearances on the show. Eddie is far less interesting than Apollo, Peter, and Mama Joyce so I find it hard to believe he was offered anything.

 

Yeah, I don't believe he was offered money, either.

 

In an encore performance of his statement to the DuBrows on Lizzie's balcony, he probably said once again, "I want no part of this" or whatever eloquent way he phrased it.

 

I think Eddie's totally checked out of the show and Tamra's histrionics.

 

Plus he was probably too busy with a skillet full of ground turkey, which is clearly more fascinating to him than the overwrought shenanigans of his wife and stepson.

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Wow Shannon looks so different without make-up. I think it would be cool if the State of Oklahoma boycotted the show because of the things Vicki  said. Really does she not think before she speaks. I have some dear sweet ,successful and well rounded friends from Oklahoma .  

Terry reminds me of some of the Doctors I use have to work with. Huge egos , no personality and the manners of a 5 year old.. So glad that Tamera will not be back..

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So glad that Tamera will not be back..

 

Won't believe that unless it's confirmed.  And Tams, like Gretch before her, will never do that.

 

Still say her behavior last time she was on WWHL was very, very strange.  She acted like someone who knew she was fired & felt like she didn't have any reason to go along with the usual Bravo bullshit.  Kinda luved her saying she was doing what she was supposed to do -- and it was her job to stir up drama, and Andy (clearly not pleased) correcting her that it was her job to be herself.  What bullshit, Satan Andy.  Anyhoo, she sure was acting like someone who felt she had nothing to lose.  Maybe she was later warned she better behave herself.  Cuz she doesn't seem to be acting this way on the reunion.  But her attitude still seems off to me.  Could it be cuz she knows she's getting the boot?

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Hey kids! Rev up your snark engines....here is a photo recap Bravo posted on all the Wives' outfits last night.

 

http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-orange-county/season-9/photos/rhoc-season-9-reunion-the-looks?cid=showmain_highlights#image-203986

 

Two things:

1. Tamra's legs. Oh my. Surprisingly not good.

2. Lizzie packing those braless boulders into another two sizes too small dress like she did all season. Looks very cheap. 

 

IMO Shannon looks the best out of them all. Including Andy

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K..I would imagine that over the years, as good looking as David is, he's become very comfortable with his looks (although he's not conceited in the least), and probably gets his fair share of female attention.  I think that he probably enjoys some kind of playful banter with Vicki, but I think he feels comfortable in this kind of play with Vicki because he's secure in the knowledge that he and Vicki are friends, and I don't think Vicki would "go there." 

 

I would imagine if David's flirtations came out of the face of someone who looked like Jim Bellino, he would be considered more than creepy. Since David's a handsome guy, this is a going to be turned into a "thing."  I'm imagining that something harmless--or not, happened between David and some other woman.  Maybe a woman took David's flirtation seriously...who knows, but for whatever reason, this really touched a nerve for Shannon.  I hope Shannon is hyperaware of what Tamra will do with that.  I wouldn't put it passed her to do a "naked wasted 2.0" with David rather than Gretchen, and have an inebriated David in a compromising situation.  She's just that evil. 

 

I do think Shannon should definitely be very vigilant about what Tamra can do with what she may see as a weak spot.  She is the exact kind of person who will take that and try to find any little thing to create discord for the Beadors, just for sport.  It's gross.  I am dealing with this exact thing at my workplace with my fiance and it's disgusting and horrible to deal with.  I wish Shannon luck.  If Tamra can't find anything, she will just make something up.  And then repeat it enough that people start to wonder if it's true.  Hate.

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What did everyone think Tamra meant when she gleefully shrieked to Vicki, "Don't say it! Don't say it!" when Andy asked Vicki "what does gay look like"? Tamra had to have been referring to Danielle's husband, right? Aka "don't (but do) say that 'gay looks like Danielle's husband'." I can't imagine what else would have caused Tamra to go into such a tailspin over this particular question. Hmm. More Danielle mystery. Just what we need.

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Tamballs FB page is very quiet....no shots of make up and hair.  Hope she's in hiding.  She looked awful.  THAT'S MINE OPINION!!!

 

 

Yes she did look awful but that's what happens when inner ugly starts seeping out. No amount of frosting can hide old, stale, nasty cake

 

The bitter old lady is just this side of sporting cankles. See Bravo Reunion Fashion photo 16 of 17.

 

http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-orange-county/season-9/photos/rhoc-season-9-reunion-the-looks?cid=showmain_highlights#image-204002

 

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Yeah, I don't believe he was offered money, either.

 

In an encore performance of his statement to the DuBrows on Lizzie's balcony, he probably said once again, "I want no part of this" or whatever eloquent way he phrased it.

 

I think Eddie's totally checked out of the show and Tamra's histrionics.

 

Plus he was probably too busy with a skillet full of ground turkey, which is clearly more fascinating to him than the overwrought shenanigans of his wife and stepson.

 

 

Anything that Tamra says should be taken with a grain of salt or a box or several boxes of salt. Yes, Eddie is way way checked out. First he announced that he does not want children with Tamara. Then knowing that Tamara was about to have her ass handed to her at the reunion; he refused to sit on the reunion sofa and support her.  As I understand it; 2nd marriages are 50% more likely to end in divorce and the percentage increases with each additional trip down the aisle. Given Eddie's obvious disinterest and the fact that this is Tamra's 3rd marriage; I cant imagine that union will last very long. Although, their unfortunate business arrangement might just prolong the inevitable. Hopefully, Eddie is lining up his next rich sugar daddy. I'm sure that the show has certainly broadened his pool of candidates.

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Regarding Shannon saying that they have put their house on the market because it is too big and they would like a better view, and it's priced at $13,490,000 (and that must have been June at the time of the reunion). 

 

That said, does anybody have a Zillow link (which I think was posted somewhere on this forum weeks ago) ? or their address?

 

I must see..... as I love, love house porn.

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Vicki (finally) backed Shannon up (sort of) by saying yes Tamara, you said that to me also.    To which Tamara kind of na na na na na said then why didn't you bring that up at the party Vicki?  To which Vicki replied because you said it me.  I never heard Terry say that with my own ears.    A beautifully accomplished double play that both supported the Beadors and shut Tams the fuck down.

 

I agree. I liked the way Vicki handled it. The problem was that it seemed like they just kind of glossed over it, instead of Andy returning to Tamra - "Okay, now what do you say to THAT?"

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Yes she did look awful but that's what happens when inner ugly starts seeping out. No amount of frosting can hide old, stale, nasty cake

 

The bitter old lady is just this side of sporting cankles. See Bravo Reunion Fashion photo 16 of 17.

 

http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-orange-county/season-9/photos/rhoc-season-9-reunion-the-looks?cid=showmain_highlights#image-204002

 

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Tammy Sue is the worst.  With bad hair and extremely questionable fashion choices. But those aren't even close to being cankles. At least in MY OPINION. 

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That said, doesn't anybody have a Zillow link (which I think was posted somewhere on this forum weeks ago) ? or their address?

I must see..... as I love, love house porn.

 

Okie dokie-

 

http://variety.com/2014/dirt/real-estalker/orange-county-housewife-shannon-beader-needs-a-buyer-1201238053/

 

http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/20-Shell-Bch-Newport-Coast-CA-92657/64897953_zpid/?utm_source=FrontDoor&utm_medium=referral&utm_content=map&utm_campaign=partner_widgets

 

Now go try & top this, Miss Terry.  

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What did everyone think Tamra meant when she gleefully shrieked to Vicki, "Don't say it! Don't say it!" when Andy asked Vicki "what does gay look like"? Tamra had to have been referring to Danielle's husband, right? Aka "don't (but do) say that 'gay looks like Danielle's husband'." I can't imagine what else would have caused Tamra to go into such a tailspin over this particular question. Hmm. More Danielle mystery. Just what we need.

 

Oh, I just thought she knew that Vicki has the tendency to stick her foot in her mouth and was cautioning her against saying anything at all. I had totally forgotten about Danielle and her husband.

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According to Alex McCord the husbands are not paid.  The minor children are not paid either.  Whenever these folks divorce there never seems to be any indication the husbands are receiving a salary.  When Giudices filed BK the income from Bravo was listed as Teresa's income.  None for Joe.  I would hope if they do a spin-off or a special the husbands would get paid.

 

I think when the RH hurls an insult that a certain husband should be holding a peach the implication is the husband wants a paycheck.

 

Having said that I do wonder if Terry Dubrow isn't paid.  He made the statement he won't be back next year.  Of course he has separate deal with Evolution Media-who writes all the paychecks for the RH.  I have often wondered about Slade getting a paycheck and Joe Gorga.

I wonder if it is a case of the Housewife getting paid more if their husband and children participate? In other words, the husband isn't technically getting paid, but the Housewife's salary is bumped if he participates in filming and does the interviews?

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Tammy Sue is the worst.  With bad hair and extremely questionable fashion choices. But those aren't even close to being cankles. At least in MY OPINION.

Thank God. I have been examining my ankles every since that post and becoming progressively alarmed. I think she has terrible legs in general (those knees), considering how much she works out and how great her core looks, but I don't see any cankles.

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What did everyone think Tamra meant when she gleefully shrieked to Vicki, "Don't say it! Don't say it!" when Andy asked Vicki "what does gay look like"? Tamra had to have been referring to Danielle's husband, right? Aka "don't (but do) say that 'gay looks like Danielle's husband'."

 

Good call.  I never even thought bout Danielle's hubs when she said that.  Satan Andy edited out Danielle & Joe so much (if really poorly), it is easy to forget 'em.  I just thought Vicks was being her usual prejudiced idiot self.

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Yes she did look awful but that's what happens when inner ugly starts seeping out. No amount of frosting can hide old, stale, nasty cake

 

The bitter old lady is just this side of sporting cankles. See Bravo Reunion Fashion photo 16 of 17.

 

http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-orange-county/season-9/photos/rhoc-season-9-reunion-the-looks?cid=showmain_highlights#image-204002

 

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I do like the shoes, though!! 

I don't know - I think Tamra's legs look okay (nothing great, but not completely horrible, either).  I do appreciate it that she seems to have definitely toned down the spray tan and shiny body lotion...I remember other times when she was soooo fake-baked it was distracting.

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What did everyone think Tamra meant when she gleefully shrieked to Vicki, "Don't say it! Don't say it!" when Andy asked Vicki "what does gay look like"? Tamra had to have been referring to Danielle's husband, right? Aka "don't (but do) say that 'gay looks like Danielle's husband'." I can't imagine what else would have caused Tamra to go into such a tailspin over this particular question. Hmm. More Danielle mystery. Just what we need.

 

I don't think that had anything to do with Danielle's husband. I felt like Tamra was telling Vicki not to go down that road because Vicki was going to say something stupid. There's no way anyone can answer that question without coming off ignorant and offensive. Gay men aren't made from a mold.

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Hey kids! Rev up your snark engines....here is a photo recap Bravo posted on all the Wives' outfits last night.

http://www.bravotv.c...ts#image-203986

Two things:

1. Tamra's legs. Oh my. Surprisingly not good.

2. Lizzie packing those braless boulders into another two sizes too small dress like she did all season. Looks very cheap.

 

 

 

 

IMO Shannon looks the best out of them all. Including Andy

 

Shannon's dress is very cute but seated it does not flatter her midsection. She needs a better hair stylist. He hair looks really thin and limp. 

 

Lizzie's dress is young and fresh. She however is not. I do like her shoes though. She like Tamera over did it with the hair extensions. 

 

I can't decide if I dislike the bottom of Heather's dress or if I just that I dislike it on her body. I also hate her shoes. Again, the bangs I neither like or dislike. As has already been said the severity of the look fits her personality very well. 

 

Also as someone had already pointed out; Tamra's pink dress (which is cute) washes her complexion out. It appears that Heather and Tamara are wearing variations of the same dress. 

 

As usual Andy Cohen looks haggard as hell. Perhaps he should cut back on the booze, the parties or whatever the hell he's doing. 

 

David was the best looking thing on the reunion sofa last night. Beautifully tanned and glowing. 

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I am not as sure as others that this is a competition, but if it is, Terry won when he sold his house for $16.4MM. Although I think the fact that they are building something even bigger is ridiculous.

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Well, I bet that Terry and Heather will have three kitchens!!  And, of course, they're having a motor court, don't you know!!  They'll be the only ones in Newport Beach with a motor court!! 

Maybe they'll have two secret rooms - one for the kids and one where Terry and Heather can practice one-upping everyone...

Holy crap - the taxes on Shannon and David's house are over $80,000.00 a year!!  YIKES!!!! 

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I don't think that had anything to do with Danielle's husband. I felt like Tamra was telling Vicki not to go down that road because Vicki was going to say something stupid. There's no way anyone can answer that question without coming off ignorant and offensive. Gay men aren't made from a mold.

Tamra probably assumed Vicki would say that gay men look like Eddie.

In all honestly, Andy should have pressed her on this. I just don't get how Vicki's stupidity has made it OK for her to make such offensive statements. She lives in California for fuck sake. Surely she has met many gay men who don't fit her stereotype? Surely she knows they come in all shapes and sizes? If she had grown up in the state that she hates as I did - Oklahoma - I would maybe cut her some slack. No offense to most of the nice folks there, but my experience is that a lot of people down there prefer their gay folks to keep quiet in the closet. One could maybe be forgiven for being ignorant because their experiences are not so vast. That could not be the case with Vicki unless she prefers it that way. I just find it so disgusting.

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Just another reason for Heather to dislike Shannon: Shannon's husband is much better looking than Miss Terry could even think about being even with all the plastic surgery at his fingertips. You know it's killing Madame. 

I wish that one of the Beador's would point out that David owns the freaking construction company that can afford to house his family in a 13 million dollar home, he's not exactly out there digging ditches himself, you dumb penis Miss Terry. 

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I wish that one of the Beador's would point out that David owns the freaking construction company that can afford to house his family in a 13 million dollar home, he's not exactly out there digging ditches himself, you dumb penis Miss Terry.

I think Shannon comes from money. That doesn't mean that David doesn't do well, but I don't think his business is the only source of their largesse.

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Vicki's hair and makeup looked lovely. I loved the color of her dress but not the huge plunging neckline - ugh.

 

 

I thought she was stealing two cantaloupes from the produce aisle.   Has anyone explained "gaydar" to Vicki?  Does she think it's something a gay guy dons (don we now our gay apparel) before he goes out so everyone else will know?   Don't like Vicki.  Don't like Shannon.  I do like Heather and the Haircut...and am happy to be in the minority.

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Anything that Tamra says should be taken with a grain of salt or a box or several boxes of salt. Yes, Eddie is way way checked out. First he announced that he does not want children with Tamara. Then knowing that Tamara was about to have her ass handed to her at the reunion; he refused to sit on the reunion sofa and support her.  As I understand it; 2nd marriages are 50% more likely to end in divorce and the percentage increases with each additional trip down the aisle. Given Eddie's obvious disinterest and the fact that this is Tamra's 3rd marriage; I cant imagine that union will last very long. Although, their unfortunate business arrangement might just prolong the inevitable. Hopefully, Eddie is lining up his next rich sugar daddy. I'm sure that the show has certainly broadened his pool of candidates.

Something is really off with Tams this reunion. No snarky comebacks on the couch, judging from the way she was screaming at Vicki about Brooks it looks like she doesn't have control of her emotions. Stress all over her face making her look old and exhausted. Wonder what's really going on with her. She has said that her ex trying to gain full custody of the kids is killing her, maybe she and Eddie are having major trouble in paradise. 

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I am not as sure as others that this is a competition, but if it is, Terry won when he sold his house for $16.4MM. Although I think the fact that they are building something even bigger is ridiculous.

 

I just looked at that. They built the home for like 13 million and sold it for 16.4. It has less square footage than the Beador home does. According to that Zillow listing the Beadors originally  listed their home in 2013 for 15,998,000. 

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p.s.  now what ya'll can tell me is what a holla back construction site is?

I'm pretty sure he was referring to the tendency of construction workers at urban sites to holler catcalls at girls who walk by. He was misusing hollaback, I think, but he also said suntheen about making catcalls, so I think he was just misusing the expression. But Terry was not unfairly demeaning the construction crews. It is astonishing that this still persists.

Yes they really do this at least here in NYC. I am too old now, but I used to be on the receiving end. It is very disturbing.

However they are not likely to be making catcalls on the freeway construction sites as the girls drive by at 75 miles an hour.

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Please Bravo - get someone else to host these reunions.  Andy is not into it anymore and it's obvious.

 

Andy does seem to have lost the love for all thing HW. He seems to be going through the motions on the reunion, seems checked out. In the past he seemed so invested in the stories and his favorite cast members and was really into the reunions. The times I've seen WWHL lately he doesn't seem all that thrilled when a HW is a guest. He used be excited and fawn all over them, especially the Gorgas, who he was cold to when they were on a few weeks ago. I wonder if he's pissed that these shows are down in the ratings. I also wonder if these shows had something to do with him being demoted from his Bravo job and that's why he's not feeling the love anymore.

 

David referring to the hoedown as a "construction site" as his excuse for bringing up the construction worker comment was so lame and pathetic. It's not a "construction site" until actual construction is taking place, a foundation dug, framing started, etc. What it was at the hoedown was a piece of property.

 

His claim that he and Eddie have been friends for a long time was also laughable. He's known him for 3 years as a castmate. When I refer to someone as having been my friend a long time I mean 10+ years.

 

I noted when Heather would turn her her to the side a little her cheeks were so HUGE it looked like she was storing nuts for the winter. The exaggerated  projection of her cheekbones is so much more noticable at that angle. How the hell can Terry as a plastic surgeon (who I assume did this to her) think this looks good? Being a good PS  requires not only good surgical skills but a good eye which Terry apparently does not have.

 

Terry's teeth/mouth area looked odd to me. I wonder if he had his teeth capped.

 

Terry didn't look like he lost weight to me. I think he made a point to say he lost weight by working out so viewers wouldn't assume he did it with a lipo hose. David didn't look like he needed to lose any weight, esp if he lost it after the photos of him and Shannon in Hawaii were taken. He did look a bit gaunt in the face and neck. But still hot.

 

Vicki's dreaming if she thought David was seriously flirting with her.

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I've had bangs for a very long time....and yes, it is because I hate my forehead, and also, I have a few wrinkles and won't do botox because I don't want to look like I'm constantly being surprised....

I've had bangs for as long as I can remember and pictures of me show. I like bangs. I look nice with bangs. I'm not hiding anything. 

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Okie dokie-

http://www.zillow.co...partner_widgets

Now go try & top this, Miss Terry.

 

Much thanks, Scoobie. Gosh, ask you shall receive.....can I have a pony, too? ;)

 

I looked at the house on Google Earth view and if you look to the right of their property,  it appears (from the air) that the streets and terrain go up to quite a few undeveloped empty lots. That said, I was wondering if those were one of the lots where the Dubrows were building, especially when they commented early in one episode that they'd almost be looking down on the Beadors. 

 

But the Beador house is really quite something. I have seen some of those same interior shots on Bravo. Interesting that Shannon's taste is so very formal, almost old world stodgy, or blue blood east coast old money. A bit grandmotherly or old rich Auntie. The formal living room had the look of an Upper 5th Avenue, Central Park East, 19th century Guilded Age dwelling. One would imagine that the Carnegies or Rockefellers had lived in. Interesting aesthetic, that Shannon has.

 

No wonder she sent the girls to Cotillion to learn manners.

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Speaking of grammar fails, shouldn't Shannon have said you spoke condescendingly since it's used as an adverb?

Oh God thank you! It hurts me ears every time she says it and she says it every time!

I guess I'm in the minority in that Heather (who I don't like much) saw how she had misinterpreted lots of situations due to her own inner monologue and apologized and Shannon looked less than forgiving. Of course I think that's a fault Shannon and Heather share. They both SAY they forgive people, but they both hold grudges.

Terry on the other hand was just gross.

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I still firmly believe that Tamra invented the "take the Beadors down" comment and repeated it to everyone.

 

 

I'm probably in the minority, but I think Terry did say it. You know, I wouldn't be surprised if Eddie, Heather, Tamara and Terry do actually hang out post season. I bet the Dubrow's don't have many friends, and I bet they all got drunk one night - were talking shit - and he said it. Just a guess.

 

"It's too big and we want a better view." HA! She was basically telling Heather Dubrow.

 

 

Was that not a thing of beauty! I almost got up an bowed down. Somewhere Sun Tzu nodded in approval and thought, "go on with ya bad self, Shannon." Shit, maybe she did save a nation in a past life, because that was TACT. And Heather knew it. She got BURNED. Badly. You're not the only one who can play that game, Dubrow.

 

= Bitch? Werk.   They gone try her one more time, hear? and come away bleeding without even realizing they've been cut.

 

Preach it! Seriously, I just finished watching this mess and still giddy about what a masterful job Shannon did.

 

 

It's just amazing to me how much venom so many people have for Heather.  It's a fake scripted reality show - that's all.  Did you all think maybe she was acting?

 

 

Perhaps, but we're talking about the show. There'd be nothing to snark about if we just assume they're all the polar opposite of what they present on screen. I think everyone knows that most of it this crap is scripted, but that is what we're talking about, their scripted personalities.

 

But Heather & Terry constantly try to explain away what they were feeling when they did what they did.  Who the hell cares what they were feeling?

 

I think, personally, what we're seeing with the Dubrows is a late-stage jenga game -- in terms of their marriage; the "structure" looks great from the outside -- fancy, neat and architectural, but it's all about to topple if the wrong piece is nudged. Hearing them with all their, "Yes, but no, my feelings! My percptions!" made me feel like I was at my therapist's. Now, don't get me wrong. Three cheers for therapy. I'm a big believer. But yeah, when they started talking like that, I immediately thought: two people have been seeing a therapist lately to work through some issues with each other. And that's why I think they're incensed by the Beadors. David and Shannon aired their messiness for the world; they were real about it. I think that kinda freaked Mr. and Mrs. Phony out. Like, "OMG, what if people can see the cracks in our marriage too!?!? Stop being so open about your marital problems! It may rub off on us!"

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I love bangs and think that done well they are very flattering

The operative words here are "done well", which heather's were not with them infringing on her eyes like a sheepdog.

 

I'm a gay boy & I thought Vicks' boobies looked pretty good.  Her prejudiced nonsense about gays is another story.  Still don't get why Andy didn't even attempt to counter her moronic stereotyped comments, instead of just making stupid cutesy faces.  Man, I fuckin' hate his guts.

I get annoyed with Andy when he fixates on stupid stuff like this (until they mentioned it, I had totally forgotten about it) instead of the more important issues on this show. I thought Vicki was going to answer "looks like you, Andy!".

 

Still say her behavior last time she was on WWHL was very, very strange.  She acted like someone who knew she was fired & felt like she didn't have any reason to go along with the usual Bravo bullshit.  Kinda luved her saying she was doing what she was supposed to do -- and it was her job to stir up drama, and Andy (clearly not pleased) correcting her that it was her job to be herself.  What bullshit, Satan Andy.  Anyhoo, she sure was acting like someone who felt she had nothing to lose.  Maybe she was later warned she better behave herself.  Cuz she doesn't seem to be acting this way on the reunion.  But her attitude still seems off to me.  Could it be cuz she knows she's getting the boot?

Perhaps I am mistaken, but wasn't the reunion filmed before Tamra's appearance on WWHL?

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Tamra probably assumed Vicki would say that gay men look like Eddie.

In all honestly, Andy should have pressed her on this. I just don't get how Vicki's stupidity has made it OK for her to make such offensive statements. She lives in California for fuck sake. Surely she has met many gay men who don't fit her stereotype? Surely she knows they come in all shapes and sizes? If she had grown up in the state that she hates as I did - Oklahoma - I would maybe cut her some slack. No offense to most of the nice folks there, but my experience is that a lot of people down there prefer their gay folks to keep quiet in the closet. One could maybe be forgiven for being ignorant because their experiences are not so vast. That could not be the case with Vicki unless she prefers it that way. I just find it so disgusting.

 I think Vicki is one of those people who only believes someone is gay if they fit every negative over-the-top stereotype.  I'm sure she knows many gay men and lesbians, but she doesn't let it sink in that gay people come in all varieties.  She has probably met hundreds of exceptions but there is still a standard that she considers valid.  Then again, she is generally clueless so what do we expect?  I wonder what her gay equivalent of "no scratchy the woody" is.  

 

Tamra doesn't have cankles.  The angle that the photo is cropped at is simply not very flattering; that is, it does not show the point at which her calves fully widen so they look straight up and down.  I was formerly a lower leg model.  Depending on the length of the leg, there is a certain amount of leg that should be shown when emphasizing the ankle to show the transition from ankle to calf.  It is actually harder to get a good definition shot on a shorter leg.  Tamra is a stubby little thing.   

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