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It it even legal for a 17yo to get plastic surgery like that. And I think the whole tyga relationship is just for publicity. Kylie isn't that good looking next to Kendall. At least Kendall can book gigs and has the model body type that Kylie doesn't have

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She's such an annoying twit.  I rolled my eyes so far out of my head when she tweeted her rant about too much focus being on her lips (and then she added "lets talk about something new - I'm bored"). Maybe if she would stop posting endless pictures on Instagram EVERY DAY of her damn duck lips people would stop talking?  And if shes so bored get a freaking job or go back to school? 

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Of course, since Kylie's lips are in the news, Kim had to comment:

 

“I go into her room, and I’m like, ‘What liner do you wear?’ because she only wears a lip liner, and then she fills it in [with the same liner],” Kardashian revealed in the video. “She doesn’t wear lipstick or a gloss.”  “She goes between [M.A.C.'s] Soar and Spice [pencils]. I use Stripdown.” "She’s so good at makeup,” Kardashian said. “Every event, she only does it herself.”

 

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/entertainment/2014/10/kim-kardashian-spills-sister-kylie-jenners-lip-secrets/

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I mentioned this a while back but I use to be a makeup artist up until about 6 years ago and I know damn well just what lip liner can do.  I've done what Kim is talking about that Kylie supposedly does.  Um no.  Her lips are completely different.  There are pictures of her where she isnt wearing much makeup and you can see what her lips look and theyre still much larger than her former very thin lips.  The only way I'll believe she didnt have surgery is if shes using something like Lip Venom which is relatively safe but does contain ingredients that cause your lips to swell up. Kim would think her makeup is great, her face looks frozen just like hers.

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Of course, since Kylie's lips are in the news, Kim had to comment:

“I go into her room, and I’m like, ‘What liner do you wear?’ because she only wears a lip liner, and then she fills it in [with the same liner],” Kardashian revealed in the video. “She doesn’t wear lipstick or a gloss.” “She goes between [M.A.C.'s] Soar and Spice [pencils]. I use Stripdown.” "She’s so good at makeup,” Kardashian said. “Every event, she only does it herself.”

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/entertainment/2014/10/kim-kardashian-spills-sister-kylie-jenners-lip-secrets/

Can I call bullshit and stfu Kim who's a plastic barbie

I mentioned this a while back but I use to be a makeup artist up until about 6 years ago and I know damn well just what lip liner can do. I've done what Kim is talking about that Kylie supposedly does. Um no. Her lips are completely different. There are pictures of her where she isnt wearing much makeup and you can see what her lips look and theyre still much larger than her former very thin lips. The only way I'll believe she didnt have surgery is if shes using something like Lip Venom which is relatively safe but does contain ingredients that cause your lips to swell up. Kim would think her makeup is great, her face looks frozen just like hers.

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Seems to me Kylie just like Rob is trying to fit in with her family. Kris is a poor ass excuse for a mother

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Kylie poses in her demure Halloween costume alongside her (not)boyfriend, Tyga:

 

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I get the idea chucky and the bride of chucky such a couples costume for the we're waiting to Kylie turns 18 to officially announce that we're a couple, couple. I would've done a lace dress instead of lingerie. But I personally am scared shitless about being out in public half naked.

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I get the idea chucky and the bride of chucky such a couples costume for the we're waiting to Kylie turns 18 to officially announce that we're a couple, couple. I would've done a lace dress instead of lingerie. But I personally am scared shitless about being out in public half naked.

Clearly, you are not Kardashian/Jenner material. Consider yourself lucky.

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Considering the damn doll has on a lace wedding dress in the movie, there's no way in HELL, my not adult ass child is wearing her finest Frederick's of Hollywood on Halloween night with this grown ass "Friend of the Family"

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I would've done a lace dress instead of lingerie. But I personally am scared shitless about being out in public half naked.

They don't think of it as being half naked, they think of it as being half dressed so they're being very modest.

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I would have raised a fuss if my daughter wanted to go out like that.  In small defense of Kylie, I work in a mall.  It is not unusual to see teens with butt cheeks hanging out of shorts, necklines down to the nipple, low rise jeans that must require daily pubic waxing.  We always joke the temperature goes up and the clothes come off.  I don't know who the parents are, but a lot of young women are walking around half dressed. 

 

The injected lips look ridiculous.  I hope she doesn't continue with the plastic surgery.  I feel kind of bad for Kylie.  How awful it would be to have people always posting in different forums that she was the ugly sister.  As a pre-teen and teen I can't imagine what that must have been like.  She has always been a very nice looking girl.  Until the cosmetic surgery.

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The injected lips look ridiculous.  I hope she doesn't continue with the plastic surgery.  I feel kind of bad for Kylie.  How awful it would be to have people always posting in different forums that she was the ugly sister.  As a pre-teen and teen I can't imagine what that must have been like.  She has always been a very nice looking girl.  Until the cosmetic surgery.

 

That's a very good point and one I've been thinking about every time I see yet another picture of her newly enhanced looks. Look at the posts here, there's plenty of them calling her the "ugly sister" and people claiming they can't even remember her name, even through they've posted about every episode ever aired here and at TWoP. I don't know of any other message boards, but I'll say the response is the same on any other boards that exist. She gets called ugly for a good hunk of her formative teen years by random strangers on the internet, so then she makes changes she obviously thinks look good and what happens? She gets even more posts about how "ugly" she looks. I'd wager the some of the people calling her out for whatever she's had done, claiming she's ruined her looks, are some of the same people who called her "ugly" before she had anything done (but now think there was nothing wrong with how she looked before). It would be nice if she didn't Google herself or read these kinds of boards or let public perception effect her self worth, but let's be honest, she's 17 and on a tv show with her media obsessed family, of course she reads these things. I'm certainly not on tv, have no claims to fame, but I've Googled myself just to see what pops up. I can't imagine being 17 and seeing the things I've read written about her. Hell, I'm 37 and if I read the same things about me, I'd be pretty devastated by it. 

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I never thought Kylie was ugly.  I actually thought she was prettier than Kendall at one time.  Problem is Kendall was always viewed as the prettier one by the media and then she started really taking off as a model and Kylie has taken a backseat.  Then her looks really got unnecessarily trashed.  Its not even so much the media but basically thinks like Twitter and Instagram that these girls are addicted to reading and people have no problem sitting behind a computer throwing around insults. The thing is she's took young to realize plastic surgery doesnt solve things and can sometimes make you look worse which I think she does now.  Her lips are too big and its bizarre to me that she never even seems to smile anymore. Every damn picture she has the same frozen expressions. She just looks..empty. 

 

Back when I was in high school a friend of mine wanted to get as nosejob (she DID have a big nose but it actually worked for her and I thought she was very pretty).  IIRC she was 16 around when she wanted it and her parents were refusing.  They told her once she turned out 18 she could do it but not before.  By the time she did turn 18 enough people encouraged her that she looked just fine and she never got it.  With Kylie I doubt she has any type of support system but rather a materialistic family and a mother who has no problem letting her children go under the knife if it could help line her pockets.

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That's a very good point and one I've been thinking about every time I see yet another picture of her newly enhanced looks. Look at the posts here, there's plenty of them calling her the "ugly sister" and people claiming they can't even remember her name, even through they've posted about every episode ever aired here and at TWoP. I don't know of any other message boards, but I'll say the response is the same on any other boards that exist. She gets called ugly for a good hunk of her formative teen years by random strangers on the internet, so then she makes changes she obviously thinks look good and what happens? She gets even more posts about how "ugly" she looks. I'd wager the some of the people calling her out for whatever she's had done, claiming she's ruined her looks, are some of the same people who called her "ugly" before she had anything done (but now think there was nothing wrong with how she looked before). It would be nice if she didn't Google herself or read these kinds of boards or let public perception effect her self worth, but let's be honest, she's 17 and on a tv show with her media obsessed family, of course she reads these things. I'm certainly not on tv, have no claims to fame, but I've Googled myself just to see what pops up. I can't imagine being 17 and seeing the things I've read written about her. Hell, I'm 37 and if I read the same things about me, I'd be pretty devastated by it. 

You are absolutely correct. However Kris exposed her kids to the media and continues to do so. She recently remarked on how all of her older kids went thru the chubby teenage years. But they weren't on a TV show, filmed and broadcast for public entertainment. In addition HER own sisters (especially Kim) are consumed with their appearance and highly critical of each others flaws. So Kyle isn't just hearing/reading  it from strangers, she is living with it in her own home. Her own mother is obsessed with how she looks. Kid doesn't stand a chance in that situation.

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I'm completely creeped out.  I feel like that picture of Kylie from Halloween looks like some pervy child porn shot.  Plus, that shot of her, with her head tilted, lips puffed up, reminds me of those people who try to get themselves to look like real life barbie dolls, right down to the vacant eyes.  Creepy. 
It's like I'm watching an SVU episode unfold in real life. 

 

In addition to the nose job, and lip injections (although I do think that Kylie helps it out with the lipstick/liner, you can see the natural lip line in a few pics), it also looks to me like she's lost about 20/30 pounds.  That would absolutely narrow out her face, make her nose seem longer, eyes seem bigger, etc. 

 

Poor thing.  Kendall is walking Versace, and Kylie is becoming a real life cartoon. 

 

Creepy. 

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I think she's done lip injections and a brow or eye lift, which is just sad considering she's 17 and still growing.

 

She got implants at 15.  She has a mom who allows her to do whatever she wants.  Her nose is thinner too.

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I think Kylie was going as a movie character from Halloween....I think the movie was called Jonas Hex? Megan Fox played the character she's dressed like, she's an Old West saloon girl/whore. OR she could just be wearing lingerie and a jacket.

Did she have her hairline moved back somehow? In the before pic above, her forehead looks smaller, like Theresa Guidice. It might just be the way she styles her hair now.

I've always thought Kendall was "model pretty" and Kylie was "girl next door cute". Never thought Kylie was ugly. Now I feel like her ugly personality shines through her face, the way Kim's does. Sad.

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I think Kylie was going as a movie character from Halloween....I think the movie was called Jonas Hex? Megan Fox played the character she's dressed like, she's an Old West saloon girl/whore. OR she could just be wearing lingerie and a jacket.

Did she have her hairline moved back somehow? In the before pic above, her forehead looks smaller, like Theresa Guidice. It might just be the way she styles her hair now.

I've always thought Kendall was "model pretty" and Kylie was "girl next door cute". Never thought Kylie was ugly. Now I feel like her ugly personality shines through her face, the way Kim's does. Sad.

Bride of Chucky is what Kylie was dressed as. She replaced the lace wedding dress with lace honeymoon wear, I guess.

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Looks like little miss grown is getting sued. But I doubt she'll get into much trouble since she's a minor and PimpMomma or Bruce were the owner's of the car.

http://www.tmz.com/#Article/2014/11/05/kylie-kris-jenner-lawsuit-three-car-accident

 

The woman who was driving the Subaru is suing her for being a negligent driver. She's also suing Kris Jenner because they believe she was the registered owner of the Mercedes.

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There are pics of Kylie and Kendall debuting their line for PacSun and the contrast between the two girls is amazing.  And not in a good way.  

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2826982/Kendall-Kylie-Jenner-cause-stir-debuting-holiday-fashion-collection-Chicago.html

 

Kendall looks young, pretty, and fresh faced.  Kylie looks old.  Seriously, she looks like she's about 40-45 years old. She's also channeling Kim, big time, in some of those pics.

 

What is up with this family?  Kris is in her 60's trying to be 32.  Kim is trying to freeze her looks into age 28.  Kendall is 17 and looks 43.  I don't get it.  I feel like there is some bizarre age dysmorphia happening, if there is such a thing.  Going both ways - in reverse and forwards.  

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There are pics of Kylie and Kendall debuting their line for PacSun and the contrast between the two girls is amazing. And not in a good way.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2826982/Kendall-Kylie-Jenner-cause-stir-debuting-holiday-fashion-collection-Chicago.html

Kendall looks young, pretty, and fresh faced. Kylie looks old. Seriously, she looks like she's about 40-45 years old. She's also channeling Kim, big time, in some of those pics.

What is up with this family? Kris is in her 60's trying to be 32. Kim is trying to freeze her looks into age 28. Kendall is 17 and looks 43. I don't get it. I feel like there is some bizarre age dysmorphia happening, if there is such a thing. Going both ways - in reverse and forwards.

Kendall just turned 19. And I agree Kylie needs go lay off the makeup and surgeries. And why is everything handed to these people?

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Kylie most definitely had an eye lift, brow lift, cheek fillers, nose job and lip injections. I also think she had some sort of chin implant to slightly lengthen her face and give it more of an oval shape, versus the rather "squat" face shape she had before. There is no way in hell makeup is responsible for that excessive of a transformation.

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It it even legal for a 17yo to get plastic surgery like that. 

As long as the parent signs off on it and you can find a plastic surgeon with zero ethics. I mean, a nose job is one thing, a full face makeover and breast implants is another. 

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I mean, a nose job is one thing, a full face makeover and breast implants is another.

She got her boobs done? is there legit "proof" (or at least good evidence) of this? (like the lips and nose)

 

I thought she just went through puberty... not implants...

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Her lips are changing on a daily basis, so there's no way she's permanently done anything to them. You can see the difference when she's not wearing a pound of makeup.

 

Oct 8 - Lips bigger.

Oct 24 - Lips smaller.

Nov 9 - Lips bigger.

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Look back at any picture of Kylie from a year ago and its apparent she had a shit load of work done.  Yes she's using a lot of liner on her lips but her lips were SUPER thin. No amount of liner is going to give that much fullness, and that picture posted above shows her lips are larger even without the lipstick/liner.  No amount of makeup will change the shape of your eyes either and open them up so visibly. You can see the skin above her eyes actually being pulled up.

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Kim lasered her hairline, so it's not beyond the realm of reality that Kylie would too. 

Not just her hairline. She had every hair on her body itself removed. She was pissed that when she was preggers it grew back.

 

 

Holy crap, that is a LOT of lip plumper!

Maybe Kim uses it on her ass?

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She supposedly looks just like her Grandma Ethel Jenner when she was young. I'm sure Kris's hand is behind ALL their cosmetic work. Kylie looks like an airhead doofus in the latest pics.

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