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A place to discuss particular episodes, arcs and moments from the show's run. Please remember this isn't a complete catch-all topic -- check out the forum for character topics and other places for show-related talk.

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Reviving this thread because Supernanny is now being shown on the "UP" channel .....and because my BP skyrockets to death level while watching these horrendous children. Lol.

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Reviving this thread because Supernanny is now being shown on the "UP" channel .....and because my BP skyrockets to death level while watching these horrendous children. Lol.

 

But it's not called Supernanny.  I've been DYING to discuss this show but there's no forum for the new one.  But if people will convene here, yay!

 

I don't really like the new format.  It seems like there's more filler than the previous show.  I want about 10% background, 30% observation of kids being horrible, and 60% Jo putting the smackdown on them and their parents.

 

That said, BostonBlonde, I notice you posted before last Thursday's episode, and before that, I was firmly with you on skyrocketing BP as well as the LOL. 

 

But I was wary about Thursday's episode because of the "on the next episode" teaser, so I was recording it, and happened to look up when the dad had the kid in front of him while sitting on the couch and I knew he was fixing to beat him, and I'm just not going to watch that.  Thank god they didn't actually show it, and I had the sound muted but the captions were still on, which said:

 

screaming

 

Oh, hell no.  I watched her conversation with the dad, where he defended what he did, and I can't bear watching that family, period, so I deleted that episode.

 

I hate spanking with the heat of a thousand suns, period.  But that poor little skinny kid, who evidently has learning disabilities?  And with a belt?  WTF?  I love that Jo says to get down on an eye-to-eye level when disciplining a child, while this asshole couldn't be bothered to stop lounging on the couch as the kid presented himself for the prelude to the beating.  Fuck you.

 

I hope that the show goes back to watching people doing a half-assed job of the naughty stool and then proclaiming it doesn't work, and then Jo showing them how to do it correctly and it does work.  You morons.

 

I get a lot of joy out of yelling at the teevee, "NO!  DON'T ENGAGE!  HAVE YOU NOT SEEN THE SHOW?  DRAG HER BACK TO THE NAUGHTY STOOL AND DON'T SAY A WORD!"  Sheeeesh.

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I just watched the episode where the little boy was beaten with a belt. I'm just sick over this mistreatment of a child with learning disabilities! When Jo was onsite, he clearly loved interacting with his Dad and having positive interaction with him. He just blossomed when practicing the days of the week with Dad at the kitchen table.

 

It's so sad that Dad and Mom are so tied to electronics and the gravitational pull of their couches that they cannot interact with each other, or their children and be a happy family.

 

I hope someone in their sphere of influence is able to step in and break this cycle of not engaging with their 3 adorable children. They are missing out on so much, not interacting with their kiddos. Just sad all the way around.

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Yes, the episode described above was awful.  They have no real interest in their children, and just the way they discussed the whipping they do is typical of those that do that on a regular basis.  I hate the idea of instilling fear in your own children.

 

I loved last night's episode.  The family was so great about participating with the bedtime routine of the children, and clearly kept it up while Jo was gone...as they didn't have any issues shown on camera that needed to be handled.  I think it will be like a new life for them to have their children in a separate bedroom, and to have established those boundaries.  

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I came here to post about the new show a few days ago but decided not to.  I was too angry.

Still angry.

Those parents were horrible, the mom just as bad for not doing anything about it.  

Those kids were terrified of that dad. You could see it even before the belt incident.  I have a feeling he beats his wife too.

 

I hope those kids are removed and find a loving family.     Those ignorant parents do not deserve them,   

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I loved last night's episode.  The family was so great about participating with the bedtime routine of the children, and clearly kept it up while Jo was gone...as they didn't have any issues shown on camera that needed to be handled.  I think it will be like a new life for them to have their children in a separate bedroom, and to have established those boundaries.  

 

My takeaway is that getting some nookie is a mighty big incentive--that dad was a man on a mission.

 

I think the bedtime ones are my favorite.  I love watching those kids coming up with every reason in the world to delay going to bed.  I'm thirsty.  I need to poo.  In fact, that was a good one because yeah, what if he really did need to go to the bathroom?  So I liked seeing that you can deviate in order to address that.

 

I love the way Jo just sits with her arm slung casually over the back of the couch amid the bedlam.  I also liked seeing that there are times when you have to pull out the big guns, that just the "walk them back to bed silently" isn't enough.  I do wonder if they followed through with the "no play" thing the next day, though, and what kind of meltdown that caused, and how they handled it.

 

But the main thing I like about the bedtime ones is that there are tangible results, and in pretty quick order, actually.  Going from never having to spend the night in a different room in four years to doing it after a couple of hours?  That's amazing and I would think people would embrace it instead of battling it for 10 seconds and giving up.

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I agree with you about the tangible results of the issues with those that follow up with bedtime practices...it is very rewarding for those that do it.

 

I really liked last night's episode with the woman that was home alone with her 3 kids on a regular basis.  You could tell that she was already spending a good amount of time with them, as she didn't have to transition too much to being more engaged with them.  She just needed some tips on balancing her life, which in the end positively impacted her children.  I think Jo did a great job of getting to the source of the issue for the whole family, and also nice that she understood that it wasn't easy for the husband either.  

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I thought Jo really helped the woman last night, but on the whole I thought the episode was boring.  Well, except when that kid fell out of the car when the mom opened the door.

 

Really, Jo's whole thing was getting them out of the house and having her join the Mommy Mafia, and having the dad engage with the kids when he's home. It was a huge improvement and greatly needed, but I prefer watching the specific techniques that Jo has for handling tantrums.

 

I also noticed last night that she uses "please" a lot, which kind of surprises me. Like she'll tell a kid, "Look at me, please."  I wonder if there's a specific reason for doing that.  Maybe to leaven the strong voice.

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I hope that by watching the most recent episode with the child who has feeding issues that people don't get the impression that every child will be magically transformed into a good eater quickly. I'm a speech therapist and work with kids with feeding disorders, and with some kids (such as those on the autism spectrum) it can take YEARS to get them to have a decent, varied diet. Yes, Jo had some really great ideas (stop giving the child junk and liquids such as juice in between meals) but for kids with real feeding disorders, you need to work on introducing food outside of mealtimes and work on presenting food in a specific manner. I'd hate for parents to feel like failures if they don't magically transform their child into good eaters.

 

Other than that, I am happy to see a version of her old show on the air. I frequently refer parents of the kids I work with to Supernanny or Youtube clips of it to help them work on discipline and sleep problems. In general, her techniques are exactly what I would do.

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On last night's episode I could see in a way why the woman was upset with Jo.  She was only asking about the timeout process on the phone, and was excited about her start of progress, and Jo had not really told her in person how to do it--she just explained it and then left.  Then Jo was going on about how she has to commit, etc, as if she wasn't willing when all she was doing was asking how to do it.  Not everyone can be left instructions and then know exactly what to do when the time comes.  Normally Jo is more helpful, so I am not sure what was missing there.

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I said the same thing to our daughter. Unless Jo went through the step-by-step and showed the parents how to do it like she did on Supernanny, where we'd see the clock move from 10 to 30 to 140 minutes while she worked through the time-out together, this mom was just asking for help and as you say, was very excited at the progress they were making.

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I feel like in many of the episodes Jo is lacking hands on time with the family.  From what they show us, she goes in, spends part of a day with them diagnosing their issues, she tells them what to do, and leaves.  She then checks in a few days later, and some have magically made progress while others understandably have not due to the lack of understanding of what they need to do.  When she goes back she does help them some, but I think she should do that from the beginning.  

 

The last episode I do think she helped them understand they just needed to nip the behavior in the bud, by not circling around it all of the time--but at the same time I don't know that they were left with much instruction as to what to actually do.  I think when she returned and provided real time feedback they were starting to understand it all.

 

She was much more involved in Supernanny, I feel.

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I got the impression that we're just not seeing as much of the hands-on stuff as we did on Supernanny, probably because they're filling the episode with other things. I think it's a shame, because it's the part I enjoy the most.  But I do think it's happening, mainly because I don't think Jo would compromise her methods to such an extent.

 

And honestly, on the time out--sometimes I wonder if these people have even seen the show.  If you've seen more that a couple of episodes, then you know how to do time out.  You may encounter specific scenarios that you're uncertain about, but some of these parents don't even seem to know the basic structure. 

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I just started recording old episodes of Supernanny, and I find I enjoy them more than this new version. One of the big differences I see now versus then is that the old Jo would really speak her mind mercilessly :)

 

I also wonder about the families who have their dysfunction on TV for the whole world to see, years and years later.

 

I still enjoy it, though.

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I got the impression that we're just not seeing as much of the hands-on stuff as we did on Supernanny, probably because they're filling the episode with other things. I think it's a shame, because it's the part I enjoy the most.  But I do think it's happening, mainly because I don't think Jo would compromise her methods to such an extent.

 

And honestly, on the time out--sometimes I wonder if these people have even seen the show.  If you've seen more that a couple of episodes, then you know how to do time out.  You may encounter specific scenarios that you're uncertain about, but some of these parents don't even seem to know the basic structure. 

I had thought of that as well, but either way I feel the viewer is missing something by not seeing some of it.  Plus with the episode where she literally just left the instructions for the time out on her way out the door and then gave the mom a hard time for asking about it on the phone does kind of say in some cases Jo is not giving real time instruction.  Though there are probably times that she is doing more than we see (but if we don't see it, it seems to be missing the point of the show).

 

As for timeouts, I agree with you, but also feel these are people asking for support, and they most likely need someone to help them through it once or twice to get the feel of it.  If general instruction was enough for them, they probably would not ask for Jo's help.  In the recent episode the parents seem to really love her real time feedback and they picked up on a lot of things they could do differently.

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I had thought of that as well, but either way I feel the viewer is missing something by not seeing some of it.  Plus with the episode where she literally just left the instructions for the time out on her way out the door and then gave the mom a hard time for asking about it on the phone does kind of say in some cases Jo is not giving real time instruction.  Though there are probably times that she is doing more than we see (but if we don't see it, it seems to be missing the point of the show).

 

Oh, I agree.  I don't like the new format nearly as much as Supernanny.  There's too much family therapy going on, while I prefer watching the actual implementation of sleeping in their own beds or enforcing a timeout.

 

But I do think she had to have done an example of timeout and didn't just leave the instructions on her way out the door, and we just didn't see it.  She knows how hard it is to follow the steps, and she's seen it how many times when even when she's sitting there they still ask questions during the process.

 

I did particularly enjoy watching the parents use the earphones.  I've always been amazed at how Jo has the parents parrot what she says with the kid standing right there, and it still works.  But I think these kids were too savvy for that--this was the first time I'd noticed parents saying their kids were purposely behaving well in her presence.  So the earphones were a perfect solution; I wonder how much she's used it before.

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