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S01.E15: Thorapy

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I picked up on Thor's friend being an animal just a couple of lines before he said he ate the tail--so I guess that makes me the perfect viewer for that joke--except I really didn't like the set up--too traumatic for me. 

I loved the episode title, "Thorapy."

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20 hours ago, iMonrey said:

Yeah, not to be indelicate but I don't see how the ghosts could have sex (except for maybe Trevor). They can't remove their clothes, they would just pop back on, like Trevor's hand or Sass's feather. So the most they can do is . . . dry hump?

The feather didn't snap back until Sass let go of it, so I assume that while they can't get completely nekkid, they can unfasten, unzip, raise, or lower whichever garment is most appropriate for the task at hand.

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Sas has said that ghosts can have sex, but that they "can't finish. Very frustrating.". 

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3 minutes ago, basil said:

Sas has said that ghosts can have sex, but that they "can't finish. Very frustrating.". 

I was trying to remember if Pete and Nancy pretended to do it for appearance's sake, but I guess this answers it. The mechanics of clothing and the deed seems to be questions for the "handbook" thread.

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On 3/4/2022 at 1:24 PM, ItCouldBeWorse said:

I don't think they can use blankets; they can't move the sheets or bedcovers.  All of the ghosts were sleeping on top of the beds.  On the other hand, I don't think they can feel cold.

When Isaac and Hetty were having their talk, I finally thought to look at whether or not the ghosts made impressions on the mattresses. Only because Being Human (the US version) is one of my favorite shows and I remember reading a lot about how the ghost character had to sit on hard surfaces (and not get wet and not brush against another character's clothes, etc). So if she sat beside on a couch or bed, it was hard so she didn't make an impression. They had to be careful with so many things I can't imagine how they don't constantly make glaring errors with this many ghosts. I haven't noticed any, but maybe I'm just so amused I wouldn't anyway. 

This is the best cast and that they're all strong enough it's hard for anyone to stand out, but Román Zaragoza as Sasappis sure does. 

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Interesting about ghosts making impressions. I read and watch a lot of ghost stories and lots of people say they can suddenly see a dip on the mattress or sofa "as if someone just sat down." Some people also felt ghost cats jumping on their beds like they did while alive. True stories or not, it's fascinating stuff that I hope the show explores now that's it's renewed.

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On 3/3/2022 at 11:32 PM, shapeshifter said:

Certainly in real life Sam would come across to a therapist as being disassociated from reality if she not only acts as a voice for the different ghosts, but also explains to the therapist that they are ghosts if she fails to prove there actually are ghosts. 

It did occur to me that Sam could find a ghost shrink (!) like she did the dead doctor who confirmed she was seeing ghosts. And then...Zoom therapy? (I do that with my shrink!)

...and I see about 4 other people thought of the same thing before I posted this.

I wonder if Hetty was cosmopolitan enough to know about "confirmed bachelors," which was a term frequently used for gay men in the 19th and 20th centuries? Or, there were even marriages of convenience, where each party went their own way (sometimes with a partner of the same sex) and were fine with it as long as Appearances were Kept Up. And of course, there were "Boston marriages" in which confirmed spinsters chose to spend their lives together (sometimes excusing it by saying there were fewer men for all the women after the Civil War.)

 

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1 hour ago, kwnyc said:

It did occur to me that Sam could find a ghost shrink (!) like she did the dead doctor who confirmed she was seeing ghosts. And then...Zoom therapy? (I do that with my shrink!)

She'd probably have to find a human who could see ghosts to coordinate on the other side.

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1 minute ago, Katy M said:

She'd probably have to find a human who could see ghosts to coordinate on the other side.

Ooo. I like that idea!
I wonder if they could see ghosts over Zoom?

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1 minute ago, shapeshifter said:

Ooo. I like that idea!
I wonder if they could see ghosts over Zoom?

That's a good point.  On Supernatural cameras would pick up ghosts. Sometimes.  Sam should try taking a picture at some point. Just to see.

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40 minutes ago, Katy M said:

She'd probably have to find a human who could see ghosts to coordinate on the other side.

That would be relatively easy, assuming ghosts can see each other over digital media...  Sam goes to Ghost doctor's location, sets up zoom with him/her.  Jay stays home with Thor, has zoom all set up on his end.  Sam calls Jay to start the zoom.  Jay just sees two boxes with no people in them, but Sam, Ghost doctor and Thor all see the Dr. and Thor on screen. 

But, if that can happen, that brings up a whole other set of questions...  if ghosts can appear on camera to other ghosts, would the ghosts see other ghosts who just happen to have died on tv/movie sets/locations, wandering around in the background? 

 

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7 hours ago, kwnyc said:

I wonder if Hetty was cosmopolitan enough to know about "confirmed bachelors," which was a term frequently used for gay men in the 19th and 20th centuries? Or, there were even marriages of convenience, where each party went their own way (sometimes with a partner of the same sex) and were fine with it as long as Appearances were Kept Up. And of course, there were "Boston marriages" in which confirmed spinsters chose to spend their lives together (sometimes excusing it by saying there were fewer men for all the women after the Civil War.)

Also known as Lavender Marriages:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavender_marriage#:~:text=A lavender marriage is a,of one or both partners.

Not the same thing, but Isaac mentioned having a wife and children.  He was probably too repressed to have a steady lover, though.

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On 3/4/2022 at 12:24 PM, ItCouldBeWorse said:

Does she dislike him?  Or is she just tired of looking at his genitals so she wishes he had died in underwear?

Oddly I had always assumed he died in undies. I didn't realize his bottom half was fully naked. 

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37 minutes ago, joanne3482 said:

Oddly I had always assumed he died in undies. I didn't realize his bottom half was fully naked. 

It's a good thing he has long shirttails.

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On 3/6/2022 at 12:17 PM, iMonrey said:

Strangely enough I did not pick up on that right away. I really did assume Thor ate a person. And even when he said "tail" I thought of . . . something else. At first. LOL.

I thought he killed a human at first, I didn’t catch on right away but that whole thing was awesome.

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The house is so big one would think there would be plenty of rooms for everybody. What did Jay and Sam do with all that food? Guess they could freeze some of it. 
I just binged the season and can’t wait for a new episode.

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I watched the rerun of "Jay's Sister" and Trevor's dating profile said "L'Chaim Ladies" so I guess the show has been acknowledging him being Jewish all along. I just never noticed until now.

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1 hour ago, iMonrey said:

I watched the rerun of "Jay's Sister" and Trevor's dating profile said "L'Chaim Ladies" so I guess the show has been acknowledging him being Jewish all along. I just never noticed until now.

He throws in Yiddish enough I figured he was. When Sam first came back from the hospital he was at the window and asked how her “punim” was. 30 years in NYC and I’d never heard that one before so looked it up. “Face.”

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On 3/8/2022 at 10:22 AM, Snow Apple said:

Interesting about ghosts making impressions. I read and watch a lot of ghost stories and lots of people say they can suddenly see a dip on the mattress or sofa "as if someone just sat down." Some people also felt ghost cats jumping on their beds like they did while alive. True stories or not, it's fascinating stuff that I hope the show explores now that's it's renewed.

I’ve definitely felt & “seen” ghost cats.  I think they are the most likely pet to visit! 

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On 3/11/2022 at 11:06 AM, Kiddvideo said:

He throws in Yiddish enough I figured he was. When Sam first came back from the hospital he was at the window and asked how her “punim” was. 30 years in NYC and I’d never heard that one before so looked it up. “Face.”

You've never heard anyone cooing to a baby "shayna punim?" It's a Yiddish term of endearment. Loosely translated: cutie face.  

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6 hours ago, chediavolo said:

I’ve definitely felt & “seen” ghost cats.  I think they are the most likely pet to visit! 

That would make a fun episode: Sam keeps seeing a cat, and Jay doesn't. It takes them awhile to realize it's because it's a ghost cat.

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12 hours ago, eel21788 said:

That would make a fun episode: Sam keeps seeing a cat, and Jay doesn't. It takes them awhile to realize it's because it's a ghost cat.

It's not impossible.

Spoiler

There's a ghost pigeon in the original British version.

 

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I enjoyed Issac & Hetty’s talk. I do wonder how FINE that from the 1930s had to be?? His buttocks probably filled out his trousers nicely. 
 

Issac needs to tell Nigel how he feels! The guy has been there for hundreds of years, but of course we have the guilt from killing him accidentally. 
 

Poor Thorfin and his nightmares ☹️. I think chatting with a ghost therapist could be good for Sam. 

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Rewatching this episode and realized Sam’s therapist is played by Tamara Podemski, who played Elora Danan’s aunt on Reservation Dogs. Her sister Sarah plays Bear’s mom on the same show. 

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