bearcatfan June 16, 2015 Share June 16, 2015 Since Sam tends to be on the slim side, and not as braw as Jamie is...I'm thinking that may be why Gabaldon wasn't too keen on Sam as Jamie. But we all know, that in the spanking scene and the "Rent" scenes, Sam had put on the weight and looked, well, not as "puny" for the lack of a better word. Since Book!Jamie is like, 6'4" and huge and well muscled...in short, "ripped." The thing is, I don't understand the idea that Sam is small. The man is 6'3"! In my family, that would be average but not for most. Isn't average around 5'9" to 5'10"? Gabaldon has also said that Jamie is built more like a basketball player or swimmer than a football player so Jamie wasn't muscle bound. Sam's body type is similar to that of a swimmer. I would hardly call him puny (although I realize you were searching for a word and puny was what you came up with). I'm also not sure where you get the idea that Gabaldon wasn't keen on Sam being Jamie. It sounds like just the opposite. From her blog post it sounds like she was one of his biggest defenders. I'll sum up the negative comments for you. Basically, people were upset that Sam isn't Chris Hemsworth. Evidently it took 7 tries and 27 hours in a salon chair to get his hair the right color of red. It's a wonder he still had hair after that! Link to comment
GHScorpiosRule June 16, 2015 Share June 16, 2015 The thing is, I don't understand the idea that Sam is small. The man is 6'3"! In my family, that would be average but not for most. Isn't average around 5'9" to 5'10"? Gabaldon has also said that Jamie is built more like a basketball player or swimmer than a football player so Jamie wasn't muscle bound. Sam's body type is similar to that of a swimmer. I would hardly call him puny (although I realize you were searching for a word and puny was what you came up with). I'm also not sure where you get the idea that Gabaldon wasn't keen on Sam being Jamie. It sounds like just the opposite. From her blog post it sounds like she was one of his biggest defenders. I'll sum up the negative comments for you. Basically, people were upset that Sam isn't Chris Hemsworth. Evidently it took 7 tries and 27 hours in a salon chair to get his hair the right color of red. It's a wonder he still had hair after that! I was basing my comments based on the posts up thread that said until she saw his audition tapes, Gabaldon wasn't keen on Sam as Jamie. I have nothing against how he normally looks- body wise. But he doesn't normally look muscle bound, and in his audition tapes he is. I didn't read any of the blogs, articles, or interviews when he was cast. I only know that when I saw his picture as being cast as Jamie, it was what decided me to go ahead and watch this series. 1 Link to comment
Nidratime June 16, 2015 Share June 16, 2015 Chris Hemsworth!? He's 6'3" as well and he's Australian. Would that be better than a very good actor who's a Scot?! Link to comment
onthebrink03 June 16, 2015 Share June 16, 2015 (edited) Chris Hemsworth!? He's 6'3" as well and he's Australian. Would that be better than a very good actor who's a Scot?! I have no idea what they were smoking. Chris Hemsworth is very, very nice to look at and I like him well enough. Yes, he's tall and well built. He plays a cartoon god well and he gave a decent performance in "Drive". But Sam is a far superior actor. And you just have to watch "Snow White and The Huntsman" to see how dodgy Hemsworth's Scottish accent was. He played a better Scot than Costner did a Brit (Prince of Thieves was not his finest hour) but that's not saying much. No, casting a tall, handsome, well built Scot who could act extremely well was definitely the right decision. Sam has been nothing short of amazing. Really the whole cast is stellar and I'm thrilled with ALL of the choices made. Edited June 16, 2015 by onthebrink03 3 Link to comment
bearcatfan June 16, 2015 Share June 16, 2015 From her story, it sounds like it was only a few hours from the time she was informed that they thought they found Jamie until she saw his audition tape so any uneasiness she had didn't last very long. I agree about Hemsworth. Even if I did think he would make a great Jamie (I don't) I would assume that he's going to be busy for the forseeable future playing Thor and wouldn't be available. I think the right person was cast as Jamie. Most of the comments to that particular blog post were favorable in that they trusted Gabadon's judgement. Considering she felt the need to make the post in the first place there must have been backlash somewhere else. It sounds like there was also a lot of concern over his hair color. This is the most confusing to me. Hair color is a fairly easy fix, 27 hours in a salon chair not withstanding. 1 Link to comment
Petunia846 June 16, 2015 Share June 16, 2015 I think the story is she was in the car when she got the news and went to his IMDB page on her phone. That's where there were some pictures that she thought were horrible pictures of him. Then she saw the tape and was sold after just a few seconds. She talks about it in a lot of the pre-S1 interviews and panels. I love, love, love Sam. He's perfect in my opinion, but I can see how it might be a shock at first to suddenly have a physical manifestation of someone that you've imagined on your own for twenty years. I personally am not good at imagining people while I read, no matter how detailed they're described, so when I see an actor playing a book character it's more like adding details to what I imagined, not changing those details. 1 Link to comment
bearcatfan June 16, 2015 Share June 16, 2015 I think the story is she was in the car when she got the news and went to his IMDB page on her phone. That's where there were some pictures that she thought were horrible pictures of him. Then she saw the tape and was sold after just a few seconds. She talks about it in a lot of the pre-S1 interviews and panels. I love, love, love Sam. He's perfect in my opinion, but I can see how it might be a shock at first to suddenly have a physical manifestation of someone that you've imagined on your own for twenty years. I personally am not good at imagining people while I read, no matter how detailed they're described, so when I see an actor playing a book character it's more like adding details to what I imagined, not changing those details. Same here. I rarely picture actual people when I read, just a vague impression. However, I've held off reading the book because I didn't want to be caught up in the details of what was changed. I read A Time to Kill before seeing the movie and I spent most of the time thinking about the changes. On the other hand I read Jurassic Park after seeing the movie so the fact that movie did not kill off John Hammond was fine with me. The novel also killed Ian Malcolm but somehow resurrected him for the sequel novel, which I found more problematic than Ian not dying in the movie. Link to comment
WatchrTina June 16, 2015 Share June 16, 2015 (edited) I think the story is she was in the car when she got the news and went to his IMDB page on her phone. That's where there were some pictures that she thought were horrible pictures of him. Some of those pictures are still there. In them young(er) Sam looks very GQ, very "European Male Model" in a number of pictures and not at all in sync with my mental picture of Jamie, so I can certainly understand Diana having that reaction. Have you seen Sam in that Hallmark movie "A Princess for Christmas?" He's perfectly cast as a young, blond European aristocrat. He looks nothing like JAMMF in that movie -- he looks like Lord John, a character we meet in book 3 ! The only old photo of Sam on IMDb that hints at JAMMF is one in which he's wearing a WWII flying ace costume and he looks huge (tall, broad shoulders) and very warrior-like, albeit a 20th century warrior. Casting agents are amazing. I don't know how they can look past the exterior (hair color, hair cut, lack of facial hair, etc) to see how an actor can transform themselves into a role, but somehow they do it. Edited June 16, 2015 by WatchrTina 2 Link to comment
Summer June 16, 2015 Share June 16, 2015 Great link to Diana's blog, thank you! And I was strong enough to resist the comments, no need to go there. I totally get how once they saw Sam act that he became Jamie. How Diana describes that makes perfect sense. I guess I'm just curious and I doubt we will never get the answer as to what the casting directors saw in those, I'm assuming unJamie like pictures, that told them to bring him in to auction on tape. Maybe he submitted more Jamielike pics to the casting directors, dunno... Link to comment
GHScorpiosRule June 16, 2015 Share June 16, 2015 (edited) Oops, wrong thread. Sorry! Edited June 16, 2015 by GHScorpiosRule Link to comment
Athena June 16, 2015 Share June 16, 2015 Just a reminder that this is the JAMMF thread so you can talk about Sam. I have made this a neutral thread so both book and non-book readers can post, but please avoid talking too much about the books, the portrayal or Gabaldon. There are other threads for it. Thank you. Link to comment
lianau June 16, 2015 Share June 16, 2015 The thing is, I don't understand the idea that Sam is small. The man is 6'3"! In my family, that would be average but not for most. Isn't average around 5'9" to 5'10"? Gabaldon has also said that Jamie is built more like a basketball player or swimmer than a football player so Jamie wasn't muscle bound. Sam's body type is similar to that of a swimmer. I would hardly call him puny (although I realize you were searching for a word and puny was what you came up with). And I don't get where Jamie the muscle dude comes from . I've got a brother who is about 6 feet , he is a forest worker (cutting down trees ... stuff like that, 8 hours a day ) and it shows , he looks like somebody with a physically demanding job but not like he spends time in a gym doing extensive weight training . 2 Link to comment
GHScorpiosRule June 16, 2015 Share June 16, 2015 And I don't get where Jamie the muscle dude comes from. From the author's description of Jamie. Link to comment
WatchrTina June 17, 2015 Share June 17, 2015 (edited) I guess I'm just curious and I doubt we will never get the answer as to what the casting directors saw in those, I'm assuming unJamie like pictures, that told them to bring him in to auction on tape. I'm betting every muckle-sized Scot in the correct age range got a look-see. Imagine the out-cry if they hadn't cast a Scot. I'll bet they didn't look at anyone under six feet tall and it had to be someone in their 30s who could play younger and then later play older. That must have really narrowed the field. And I have to disagree with you GHScorposRule I recall the book making much of Jamie's height but not so much of his bulk. Diana has said that Sam's pre-bulk-up body is actually closer to the Jamie she wrote about. He's muscled but lean. The biggest disconnect in the show vs. the books regarding Jamie's look is the fact that everyone else is too tall. JAMMF's 6'4" height in the book is unusual. On the show, you don't really notice Jamie being that much taller than anyone else because that makes for awkward shots. Murtagh made reference to his "muckle" size in The Wedding episode ("muckle" is Scots for "big") but other than that Jamie isn't really portrayed as being markedly taller than other men, which is a bit of a shame. One of the few times where I became keenly aware of Jamie's size was during the snarling fight between him and Claire by the river after the rescue. He positively loom over her when he says "Aye told ye to stay PUUUT!" I love that line. He also looms very menacingly over Jenny during their welcome home fight. I'm so glad the cast a short Jenny. Much funnier visuals there. ETA: the one other time I can recall it being really obvious that JAMMF is an unusually big dude was in the opening scene of "Wentworth" where he stood head and shoulders above the men standing directly behind him and he was a good bit taller than Taran MacQuarrie as well. Edited June 17, 2015 by WatchrTina 2 Link to comment
GHScorpiosRule June 29, 2015 Share June 29, 2015 (edited) I mentioned this to someone, who agreed wi' me, and it bears repeating: Sam needs to seriously give me us some more videos of "How to Talk Outlander" where he says "gude" and "buik" multiple times. And "aye, no, mo chridhe, mo neighan don" and every and all endearments...curses, cheers, Slainte Va! Wot? Edited July 2, 2015 by GHScorpiosRule 4 Link to comment
Summer June 29, 2015 Share June 29, 2015 Agreed, GHScorpiosrule! Love Sam's accent and facial expressions. One of the reasons why I am choosing not read the books is because I just can't picture Sam saying the dialogue. Anytime I read a little excerpt from any of the books I just can't get that same delivery and it doesn't work for me. Weird. If you haven't already, search for Sam and Catriona reading tweets on YouTube. Its the cutest video of the two of them reading fan tweets and Sam reads the last one having to do with Claire's boobs. The way he says "boobs' is freaking adorable, similar to the way he says "books", I can't even attempt to spell it phonetically. The whole video is super cute. I cannot believe there isn't something between them in real life. 4 Link to comment
onthebrink03 July 3, 2015 Share July 3, 2015 (edited) I'll just leave this here. That was very kind and thoughtful of you. Thanks ever so much. :-) Edited July 3, 2015 by onthebrink03 7 Link to comment
WatchrTina July 4, 2015 Share July 4, 2015 (edited) I just finished watching the musical, 1776 on AMC. Thomas Jefferson, a red-head, is played by Ken Howard who stands 6'6". There is a scene where John Adams (played by Williams Daniels) says he will compel Jefferson into writing the Declaration of Independence. Jefferson steps very close to him, leans over the 5'7" Adams, and says simply "How?" That is the best visual I've ever seen that comes close to matching my own mental picture of our muckle-sized warrior, JAMMF. Even the hair color and clothing are right (or close enough.) I hope we see a scene like that in the show. BTW, I had forgotten how moving 1776 is. I had only remembered the songs, most of which are funny. I was choked up by the end. I also wanted the strangle the actor playing the one member of the Continental Congress who was the designated Scot in the show. His accent -- it pained me. Edited July 5, 2015 by WatchrTina 1 Link to comment
Liser78 July 13, 2015 Share July 13, 2015 (edited) Don't forget to vote in the SpoilerTV Character Cup for our beloved JAMMF. He wasn't included in the voting that went up today, but he is seeded very high (obviously) so check every 24 hours. When the direct link for the first round that he comes up in shows up I will edit to include said link. http://www.spoilertv.com/2015/07/2015-character-cup-round-1-a.html http://www.spoilertv.com/2015/07/2015-character-cup-1c.html Vote JAMMF! you can only vote once per IP address so make it count. Edited July 15, 2015 by Liser78 1 Link to comment
Liser78 July 18, 2015 Share July 18, 2015 Vote for Jaime, http://www.spoilertv.com/2015/07/2015-character-cup-2b.html 1 Link to comment
Liser78 July 21, 2015 Share July 21, 2015 Ok, our beloved Jaime is in the semi finals (of course) so vote if you have a minute. You don't have to register or anything, it's just one vote per IP address. http://www.spoilertv.com/2015/07/2015-character-cup-round-4.html 1 Link to comment
cypfan July 21, 2015 Share July 21, 2015 Voting is easy peasy..............Jamie is tied. 50% versus 50% I don't really think that these type of contests mean anything except for keeping the show and the actor in the "news". Who knows, maybe a voter for another person sees Sam's picture or the shows name and decides to see what all the fuss is about. Every viewer helps to keep our show on the air. Thanks Liser78 1 Link to comment
Liser78 July 21, 2015 Share July 21, 2015 And you can vote for Donas too if you continue to scroll down. The woman who is moderating the polls encourages people to discuss the characters and why people should watch in the comments (more so in the first rounds but still). It is silly and just gives fandom /shows bragging rights but it's fun, and it keeps the show trending. Link to comment
Starla July 21, 2015 Share July 21, 2015 Oh bummer, Jamie is behind now. Not only that, but Agent Carter is beating Buffy?! It's a travesty. 1 Link to comment
Liser78 July 22, 2015 Share July 22, 2015 I nominated both Buffy and Peggy in the beginning (and Jaime) but I was voting Buffy. Oh well, Jaime lost and I don't even know who the guy that beat him is. Must be a very organized fandom. But Donas is through :) Link to comment
cypfan July 22, 2015 Share July 22, 2015 This was a subtlety biased contest. As competent as I am on a computer, the first time I voted, I missed the drop down box aspect of each category. Only the first 3 or 4 in each category were visible. I rushed to vote quickly and it wasn't until my second time on the site that I noticed the drop down. Oh well.......It is my "wee" way of saying thank you to the show for all the pleasure it has and is giving me. Link to comment
WatchrTina July 25, 2015 Share July 25, 2015 Diana posted this on her Facebook page and I think it belongs here. JAMMF/Sam is a Big Bad Handsome Man. Who can't dance. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YPUB5uUnUg&feature=youtu.be BTW the "Honeypot Dance" reference in the video is a shout out to the two tweets below, which are hysterical when viewed together. https://twitter.com/thatsVero/status/622864159915569152 https://twitter.com/thatsVero/status/622864221055922177 1 Link to comment
Nidratime July 28, 2015 Share July 28, 2015 Just Sam, keeping us up-to-date: Sam Heughan @SamHeughan 11h11 hours ago Read through day! Eps 6 and 7 and some new actors to "play with"... 1 Link to comment
WatchrTina April 11, 2016 Share April 11, 2016 Sam rocking a modern kilt as Grand Marshall of the 2016 Tartan Day Parade in New York City. The Scottish weather does not appear to have troubled him one bit. 4 Link to comment
WatchrTina April 14, 2016 Share April 14, 2016 (edited) For those of you who don't Twitter, Sam just tweeted this photo from the last day of Season 2 shooting. Mon Dieu! those two are adorable. https://twitter.com/SamHeughan/status/720319426424344576 Edited April 14, 2016 by WatchrTina 3 Link to comment
GHScorpiosRule April 14, 2016 Share April 14, 2016 For those of you who don't Twitter, Sam just tweeted this photo from the last day of Season 2 shooting. Mon Dieu! those two are adorable. https://twitter.com/SamHeughan/status/720319426424344576 Mon Dieu is right! Sigh....❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ Link to comment
WatchrTina April 19, 2016 Share April 19, 2016 For those of you who don't Twitter, Sam tweeted another behind-the-scenes photo -- this one from episode 202. From the opening scene. I don't know what the right adjective is for these two but it is definitely not "adorable." https://twitter.com/SamHeughan/status/722077723359911938 Link to comment
Dust Bunny April 19, 2016 Share April 19, 2016 For those of you who don't Twitter, Sam tweeted another behind-the-scenes photo -- this one from episode 202. From the opening scene. I don't know what the right adjective is for these two but it is definitely not "adorable." https://twitter.com/SamHeughan/status/722077723359911938 The trust and mutual respect as actors Sam and Tobias must have towards each other... I can't imagine what it was like to film those Wentworth scenes, but to be able to look each other in the eye after the shooting is over - and then work with each other again for the nightmare sequence - is the height of professionalism. And maybe a hell of a lot of whisky. 2 Link to comment
Zella April 19, 2016 Share April 19, 2016 The trust and mutual respect as actors Sam and Tobias must have towards each other... I can't imagine what it was like to film those Wentworth scenes, but to be able to look each other in the eye after the shooting is over - and then work with each other again for the nightmare sequence - is the height of professionalism. And maybe a hell of a lot of whisky. Honestly, that was one of the only reasons I could watch the last 2 episodes of season 1, which I only got around to in the past few weeks. It was easier for me to watch those horrific scenes knowing that not only are Sam and Tobias still on speaking terms after filming but also that they actually seem to get along really well. 1 Link to comment
WatchrTina April 30, 2016 Share April 30, 2016 (edited) Sam in black and white. Again. Just in time for his birthday. He's aging well, ye ken? Edited April 30, 2016 by WatchrTina 5 Link to comment
AheadofStraight July 13, 2016 Share July 13, 2016 (edited) OMG, these pics of Sam gave me chills. Wowza. *dead* http://www.barbour.com/blog/sam-heughan-barbour-brand-ambassador?utm_source=social&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=sam_heughan More here: someone pass the smelling salts https://samcaitlife.wordpress.com/2016/07/13/new-sam-is-the-new-global-brand-ambassador-for-barbour/ Edited July 13, 2016 by AheadofStraight 2 Link to comment
GHScorpiosRule July 13, 2016 Share July 13, 2016 39 minutes ago, AheadofStraight said: OMG, these pics of Sam gave me chills. Wowza. *dead* http://www.barbour.com/blog/sam-heughan-barbour-brand-ambassador?utm_source=social&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=sam_heughan More here: someone pass the smelling salts https://samcaitlife.wordpress.com/2016/07/13/new-sam-is-the-new-global-brand-ambassador-for-barbour/ GAH!!! SWOONING FAINT ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ 2 Link to comment
Keeta July 13, 2016 Share July 13, 2016 Damn, that "blue steel" look is something else! 1 Link to comment
WatchrTina July 18, 2016 Share July 18, 2016 (edited) Sam, doing Muay Thai: https://www.instagram.com/p/BHxbYy3jt-_/?hl=en If you lose yourself looking at his collection of instragram photos and videos don't blame me (I'm headed down that rabbit hole myself now.) Edited July 18, 2016 by WatchrTina 1 Link to comment
AheadofStraight September 8, 2016 Share September 8, 2016 (edited) Wow. http://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/article/four-way-to-up-your-shirt-game ETA: A video to accompany the photo shoot from above link Edited September 8, 2016 by AheadofStraight 1 Link to comment
katville September 8, 2016 Share September 8, 2016 (edited) I like all of those. Very classic and timeless. Menswear these days seem to lean toward the hipster look that my husband would rather be caught dead than wear. He would like these clothes. Well done, Sam! You might have just made a Christmas present sale! Edited September 8, 2016 by katville 2 Link to comment
WatchrTina September 10, 2016 Share September 10, 2016 The French version of Cosmopolitan Magazine posted this on their Facebook page. Apparently they've fallen for Sam too. https://www.facebook.com/Cosmopolitan.fr/videos/10153833994347957/?hc_ref=NEWSFEED# 1 Link to comment
katville September 10, 2016 Share September 10, 2016 53 minutes ago, WatchrTina said: The French version of Cosmopolitan Magazine posted this on their Facebook page. Apparently they've fallen for Sam too. https://www.facebook.com/Cosmopolitan.fr/videos/10153833994347957/?hc_ref=NEWSFEED# He is very handsome as Jamie, but I am just not feeling his pre-Outlander look and I don't know why. The straight hair? The "Blue Steel" model looks? Someone said that he looked like a hot Alfie Allen and now I cannot un-see it. Link to comment
WatchrTina December 1, 2016 Share December 1, 2016 Sam sent Instagram greetings to Diana from "sunny" North Carolina https://www.instagram.com/p/BNdAuXYD5zs/ 2 Link to comment
Clawdette December 1, 2016 Share December 1, 2016 Dang it, I'm just 30 minutes down the mountain. When it's foggy through the upper area of Blowing Rock, you cannot see a foot in front of your car. Safe travels! 1 Link to comment
Starla December 1, 2016 Share December 1, 2016 OMG Sam is in my hometown?!! Why? Where? It's sunny but cold today, hopefully he'll get to see our amazing views of the mountains. 1 Link to comment
ScotchnSoda December 6, 2016 Share December 6, 2016 Is Sam wearing earrings and lipstick ? For some filming or what ? Link to comment
Nidratime May 17, 2017 Share May 17, 2017 I just can't believe how awful he looks. ;-) 2 Link to comment
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