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S01.E12: Jay’s Sister

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I’m still enjoying this show. 
I agree with most about Nancy. At first I found her funny but after awhile I was thinking shut up already! Wouldn’t mind seeing her occasionally in the future ( in small doses)

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Something I missed on the first viewing: 

Sam: "Thor, lights!"

Thor: "Sam, chair!"

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That house is enormous.  From the outdoor photos I would guess it has 12 to 20 bedrooms.

Definitely not 20. It's hard to tell from the exterior shots. The house has an L shape and it appears the bedrooms are all located on the second floor of the main wing (where the front door and entry hall are). Judging by the fireplace chimneys, there appear to be seven bedrooms facing the front yard. Assuming the other side of the hall is the same that would be 14 total. But it's possibly fewer.

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I've figured out how Jay could see the ghosts.

I think I prefer that he can't, it's funnier that way. The visual of him trying to go through Trevor was one of the funniest parts of this episode.

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On 1/13/2022 at 11:45 PM, AngieBee1 said:

What I found funny about that was that Utkarsh played Punam Patel's best friend/friends with benefits in season two of Netflix's SPECIAL.

I found it a little uncomfortable watching these actors who played lovers playing brother and sister. It wasn't as bad as if, say, someone cast Courtney Cox and David Schwimmer as a married couple...but it was the same kind of principle.

Anyway, this is the first we've heard of living people being able to hear Alberta singing, or of Pete having x-ray vision, right?

If I were Trevor, I'd be pissed that I had to go through the effort of writing those messages on the mirror, when all Alberta had to do was sing a message to Jay.

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26 minutes ago, Blakeston said:

I found it a little uncomfortable watching these actors who played lovers playing brother and sister. It wasn't as bad as if, say, someone cast Courtney Cox and David Schwimmer as a married couple...but it was the same kind of principle.

Anyway, this is the first we've heard of living people being able to hear Alberta singing, or of Pete having x-ray vision, right?

If I were Trevor, I'd be pissed that I had to go through the effort of writing those messages on the mirror, when all Alberta had to do was sing a message to Jay.

I think it was noted in the first (maybe second?) episode that livings could hear Alberta's ghostly singing.  I don't think it was actually words, just tones.  That was her "skill", like Thor with electricity/lights and Trevor with being able to (barely) touch things.  I didn't catch anything about Pete having x-ray vision.  Was that in reference to telling Jay's sister what was in her bag?  I just thought the bag was open enough that the ghosts could see into it.

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13 minutes ago, SoMuchTV said:

I didn't catch anything about Pete having x-ray vision.  Was that in reference to telling Jay's sister what was in her bag?  I just thought the bag was open enough that the ghosts could see into it.

Oh! That makes sense! I thought it was X-ray vision too, rather than Pete just looking in her open bag.

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Just now, Browncoat said:

I thought he poked his head into it.

Yes, upon rewatch, he poked his head in. I guess any of the ghosts can do that, and Sam called on Pete to do it because he was right there.

In that case, any of the ghosts can see any human naked if they want to, just by looking through their clothes. Creepy.

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I think it was noted in the first (maybe second?) episode that livings could hear Alberta's ghostly singing.  I don't think it was actually words, just tones. 

Yes, it was either the first or second episode, before Sam could see them. The ghosts were trying to scare Sam and Jay out of the house, and Alberta did her humming thing but Jay was blasting the stereo so neither could hear her.

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3 hours ago, Blakeston said:
On 1/13/2022 at 11:45 PM, AngieBee1 said:

What I found funny about that was that Utkarsh played Punam Patel's best friend/friends with benefits in season two of Netflix's SPECIAL.

I found it a little uncomfortable watching these actors who played lovers playing brother and sister. It wasn't as bad as if, say, someone cast Courtney Cox and David Schwimmer as a married couple...but it was the same kind of principle.

Eh, they're just actors playing roles.

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I find it weird when one or two of the ghosts is missing from the episode - and nobody mentions them. I gather that the plan is for all of the ghosts to be in each episode but was this originally a Covid thing or an actual artistic choice?

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3 hours ago, LisaM said:

I find it weird when one or two of the ghosts is missing from the episode - and nobody mentions them. I gather that the plan is for all of the ghosts to be in each episode but was this originally a Covid thing or an actual artistic choice?

Or maybe it was a budget issue? And now that the show is successful, they have more money for actors to appear.

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5 hours ago, LisaM said:

I find it weird when one or two of the ghosts is missing from the episode - and nobody mentions them. I gather that the plan is for all of the ghosts to be in each episode but was this originally a Covid thing or an actual artistic choice?

It doesn't bother me that all the ghosts are not there in every episode.
I'm often assuming Covid is the reason for odd character absences these days, but this show's episodes seem pretty smoothly written, so I'm less inclined to think that's the reason in this case.
I'm guessing having a large cast of part time ghosts was always the plan?
Perhaps because they can get better actors by giving them enough time to work on other projects?

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8 hours ago, SmithW6079 said:

Eh, they're just actors playing roles.

I am aware of that!

But we all carry around a certain amount of mental associations between actors and roles they've played. No one is immune to it.

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The B story with the ghosts giving up the room was a plot line that should never have made it onto the screen as long as the show insists on the "missing ghost (s) of the week". You cant do a story about giving up a room when Sas and the Hippie chick are missing. It just didn't work. Also yes in a house that size I can't believe there weren't more spare non-moldy bedrooms!

LOL of the week: "What is this personal massager?"

Side note I LOVED the gorgeous overhead shot of the house and what I hope is the real Hudson River valley beyond (I  live just north of there and its beautiful). Hopefully it wasn't something shot in California and they took the time to come here for the exteriors.

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Side note I LOVED the gorgeous overhead shot of the house and what I hope is the real Hudson River valley beyond (I  live just north of there and its beautiful). Hopefully it wasn't something shot in California and they took the time to come here for the exteriors.

Sorry, but neither. It's not even a real house, it's an amalgamation of a real house (in California) and CGI:

https://hookedonhouses.net/2022/01/06/haunted-house-ghosts-sitcom/

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9 hours ago, North of Eden said:

The B story with the ghosts giving up the room was a plot line that should never have made it onto the screen as long as the show insists on the "missing ghost (s) of the week". You cant do a story about giving up a room when Sas and the Hippie chick are missing. It just didn't work. Also yes in a house that size I can't believe there weren't more spare non-moldy bedrooms!

I do think it's weird that literally not once has anyone mentioned a ghost who didn't appear in that episode. For some storylines, it's not really necessary. But for others, there are big things happening and it seems strange to not throw in a line about how [insert ghost] is really missing out. And yeah, this one in particular seemed weird in that regard (though I'll admit that I generally completely forget about Flower when she's not around).

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Nancy (?) can stay in the cholera cellar. Her crap got old real quick and her voice reminded me of Cam’s sister in Modern Family (who might be the most annoying character ever).

It doesn’t really bother me when some of the ghosts are missing, if anything I think it makes it more realistic and all of them competing for the 20 minutes of screen time would get too much.

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They should have used the Knives Out house.  

I think the issue is that the manor is supposed to look old and run-down, so a real one that looked liked that would be hard to find and impractical as a shooting location. They use a real house when they shoot exteriors in closeups and medium shots because they only have to dress a small part of it, and when they need a wider shot of the whole house the fill it it with CGI.

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The B story with the ghosts giving up the room was a plot line that should never have made it onto the screen as long as the show insists on the "missing ghost (s) of the week". You cant do a story about giving up a room when Sas and the Hippie chick are missing. It just didn't work. Also yes in a house that size I can't believe there weren't more spare non-moldy bedrooms!

It did seem odd that neither Flower nor Sass were there to vote on the rooms, but they could have easily hand-waved this with a simple line of dialogue and just didn't bother. 

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8 hours ago, iMonrey said:

I think the issue is that the manor is supposed to look old and run-down, so a real one that looked liked that would be hard to find and impractical as a shooting location. They use a real house when they shoot exteriors in closeups and medium shots because they only have to dress a small part of it, and when they need a wider shot of the whole house the fill it it with CGI.

I know, I just love that Knives Out house so much!

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23 hours ago, callie lee 29 said:

Nancy (?) can stay in the cholera cellar. Her crap got old real quick and her voice reminded me of Cam’s sister in Modern Family (who might be the most annoying character ever).

It doesn’t really bother me when some of the ghosts are missing, if anything I think it makes it more realistic and all of them competing for the 20 minutes of screen time would get too much.

No...having missing ghosts when your storyline is one of them MUST give up a room doesn't work without Sas and Flower. Everyone of them had a stake in it and it was ridiculous  to float this plot without everyone.

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3 hours ago, North of Eden said:

No...having missing ghosts when your storyline is one of them MUST give up a room doesn't work without Sas and Flower. Everyone of them had a stake in it and it was ridiculous  to float this plot without everyone.

Were Sass and Flower the only ones missing? I can imagine either one of them preferring to sleep under the stars anyway. 
Yes. I used to do that.

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Were Sass and Flower the only ones missing? 

The headless ghost, but we haven't seen him since Episode 4. I think maybe the show has decided to drop the character.

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