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Colorado State head coach Jim McElwain will be the new head coach at Florida.

 

Meanwhile, Nebraska has lured Mike Riley away from Oregon State.  I'd consider this one a downgrade.

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Colorado State head coach Jim McElwain will be the new head coach at Florida.

 

Meanwhile, Nebraska has lured Mike Riley away from Oregon State.  I'd consider this one a downgrade.

As a native Nebraskan and die-hard Husker fan I have no idea what to think of this hire. His record is horrible compared to Pelini's but everyone is saying you have to consider the context. A lot of those in the college football circle (media, coaches, former players, etc) have had great things to say. It seems like he is a rock star in recruiting, which we need. One ESPN reporter who used to work for the Omaha World Herald tweeted a thought about how, considering Riley's age, perhaps he is being brought in with a DC or OC in mind to be groomed as a coach-in-waiting. The name he threw out, to no surprise, was Scott Frost.

I think this needs to be a wait and see situation. A lot of people are comparing it to our hiring of Tim Miles in basketball and how it didn't seem like a great hire and look at what he has done. I'm just not sure what to think. But until I have a reason not to cheer for him as our coach, I'll cheer for him.

What pisses me off though is our douche of an AD emailed the players to tell them of the new coach. WTF!

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I would think that the Riley hire is a placeholder for Nebraska until Craig Bohl gets a few years under his belt at Wyoming. Patience, Husker fans. It will take a while to return to 1995.

 

It will be very interesting to see who Michigan gets. I assume it will be a Name.

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For the second year in a row, Baylor is Big 12 Champs. Sic 'em!

 

(I refuse to acknowledge this "co-champs" silliness. We beat TCU outright. Remember "One True Champion," Commissioner Bowlsby? I thought so.)

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I would vote for Ohio State to be in the final four but I saw that game against Penn State earlier this year.  Ohio State would have lost that game to PSU if it wasn't for the fact that the referees spotted them 10 points.

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Final Top 4:

 

1. Alabama

2. Oregon

3. Florida State

4. Ohio State

 

Baylor and TCU are out- TCU drops to #6.

 

Sugar Bowl: Alabama vs. Ohio State

Rose Bowl: Oregon vs. Florida State

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In my opinion, the Committee got it right.  As mentioned, the lack of a Big 12 Championship hurt TCU and Baylor.  OSU shutting down Wisconsin with a 3rd QB is too much to ignore.  Was actually worried about FSU getting left out, but I think the only way that could have happened is if Alabama, Oregon, and everyone else were undefeated.  Sucks for TCU getting left out yet again, but hopefully someday they'll contend for the National Title

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It's a business decision, based on TV ratings and projected ticket sales and ad revenue -- the committee's going to pick the teams that it deems most likely to put butts in seats and ad dollars in the bank.

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I think they picked the right four teams. What they did wrong was releasing a weekly ranking.

This whole thing just makes me sad that they are using the Rose Bowl as a playoff game. I like tradition, dammit.

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What they did wrong was releasing a weekly ranking.

Absolutely -- during the past month, you couldn't enjoy watching a game for all the speculation by the announcers.

 

Being the first year of a new playoff system, there were bugs that need to be worked out. I think placing so much emphasis on strength of schedule is a major bug. I don't think it's fair to judge teams on nonconference schedules that were set a couple of years ago, before this system was in place. (And yes, I'd feel the same even if Baylor had made the top four.)

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Honestly, TCU never should've been ranked #3. Baylor beat them out right. Yes, Baylor's schedule was weaker, but beating a #9 Kansas in a closer game was much more impressive than a 52-3 gane vs miserable Iowa State. (And yes, i no those games were AFTER the ranking of TCU at #3.)

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Well the Buckeyes (and Wisconsin, for that matter) is doing all it can to get The Ohio State University into the playoffs. Yikes.

 

I'm going with the conspiracy theory that Delany paid off Wisconsin to take a HUGE DIVE for Ohio State to get them into the playoff.

 

TCU at No. 3 was never right. But -- Ohio State was always destined to be in the playoffs if they won the Big Ten. Barry Alvarez and Tom Osborne are on the playoff committee. Jim Delany is the most powerful man in college sports. You're telling me that the Big Ten champion isn't getting in, after Delany finally signed off on the playoffs?

 

It's a business decision, based on TV ratings and projected ticket sales and ad revenue -- the committee's going to pick the teams that it deems most likely to put butts in seats and ad dollars in the bank.

 

Yup. Ohio State is a helmet school, a Brand Name School, way more attractive as television option than TCU or Baylor.

 

That said, if Baylor wants to impress the committee in the future, it will have to clean up its future nonconference schedules, which appear to feature programs like Rice, Lamar and Northwestern State. Also, I imagine Texas will go school shopping with the purpose of inviting two to the Big 12 so they can have a championship game again.

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I don't get why the Big 12 has co-champions at all. Are they the only conference to do that? What's the point?

 

I know this is the first year of the playoffs, but I hope people who control this are taking notice of the things that need to be fixed. 1) Weekly rankings are ridiculous and serve no purpose and 2) only 4 teams does not a playoff system make. I'm sure there are more, but these two stand out to me so glaringly.

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Yup. Ohio State is a helmet school, a Brand Name School, way more attractive as television option than TCU or Baylor.

I'm from a Big Ten School, so yay, OSU. What's a helmet school?

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I don't get why the Big 12 has co-champions at all. Are they the only conference to do that? What's the point?

I think every Baylor fan is wondering the same thing! The way I understand it, during the offseason, the Big 12 decided that if teams had the same record, they would allow them to be co-champions, regardless of how head-to-head matchups ended. The thing that upsets me (and many others, including Baylor head coach Art Briles) is this season's marketing campaign: One True Champion. Take a look:

 

http://www.onetruechampion.org/

 

To quote Coach Briles, "You know, if you're going to slogan around and say there's 'One True Champion,' all the sudden you're gonna go out the back door instead of going out the front? Don't say one thing and do another."

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I really don't care for Art Briles "good ol boy" mentality & whining, but he is correct abt how the Big 12 handled the whole situation. They COULD have asked the Committee for a dispensation because they now only have 10 teams.

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I'm from a Big Ten School, so yay, OSU. What's a helmet school?

 

Helmet schools are schools like Ohio State, Texas, Florida, Notre Dame. Name brand schools with national championships and national recruiting power. If Baylor or TCU had been Texas or Oklahoma, then we might not be having this discussion.

 

Though I still think that Alvarez and Osborne had a LOT to do with OSU getting into the playoff. I think that after they saw OSU steamroll Wisconsin, they saw their chance for a Big Ten team.

 

It doesn't help that there's a long layoff between now and the start of bowl season. With the NCAAs, people mostly bitch on Sunday night/early Monday, then forget about the "we got jobbed" schools as the tournament starts. Can you remember who the "first four out" were last year in the NCAAs? I can't either, but I'd be willing to bet everyone will remember Baylor/TCU for a long time after this.

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I think the playoffs will be like the Super Bowl in that market size/fan base will be irrelevant with respect to the ratings. They'll be huge regardless of who is playing.

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Well, remember that they also have to sell a lot of tickets and get a lot of fans to travel. It's a lot to ask Florida State fans to travel to the Rose Bowl and then a couple weeks later turn around and travel to Jerryworld. It's not like the NFL where the playoff games are played at home stadiums and then the Super Bowl is a given sellout (and a big chunk of tickets go to corporate sponsors). That's why I hope if they ever go to an eight-team playoff, the first round will be played at the home sites of the higher-seeded teams.

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What is it about Wisconsin? I though Bielema going to Arkansas was a lateral move, but Andersen to Oregon State (which will be in Oregon's shadow as long as Phil Knight is around) feels like a downgrade.

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Actually I'm surprised Oregon wants Anderson aft last Saturday's fiasco.

Even Bo Schembechler got that team up north to win a few.

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The word is that Andersen was not pleased with UW admissions policies. They don't like jucos at UW and they don't like risky kids.

 

Bielema left because his wife hated Wisconsin.

 

Then there are rumors that neither coach was pleased with low pay for assistants.

 

Oh, who the fuck knows. I'm too annoyed.

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The craziest thing about the merry go round is that Paul Chryst's name came up for Nebraska, Michigan and Wisconsin. 

 

As a Panther fan, the prospect of his departure bothers me a lot less than it probably should.

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A lot of former Badgers have tweeted that they want Chryst. But Chryst to me is a guy who should have remained an offensive coordinator. In fact I have no doubt he could get an NFL job right now as a coordinator. Many Wisconsin fans long for the days when he was our OC.

 

--ETA -- well, it appears as though it's Chryst to Wisconsin. We'll see how it works out.

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I've heard a lot of reasons for Andersen's departure.  He's a West Coast guy, Wisconsin doesn't pay their assistants well, admissions, etc.  I get the impression too that Barry Alvarez it way too hands on (he pretty much wants the coaches to stick to the offense they've been running in the school for the past two-plus decades) and a bit of a pain in the ass.  In any event, something's wrong when he always finds himself shocked when someone leaves.

 

Michigan is delusional if they think they're getting someone like Jim Harbaugh.  I agree that Michigan's problem is, as Colin Cowherd pointed out, that they fell in love with themselves and the whole "Michigan Man" crap.

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I've heard a lot of reasons for Andersen's departure.  He's a West Coast guy, Wisconsin doesn't pay their assistants well, admissions, etc.  I get the impression too that Barry Alvarez it way too hands on (he pretty much wants the coaches to stick to the offense they've been running in the school for the past two-plus decades) and a bit of a pain in the ass.  In any event, something's wrong when he always finds himself shocked when someone leaves.

 

Michigan is delusional if they think they're getting someone like Jim Harbaugh.  I agree that Michigan's problem is, as Colin Cowherd pointed out, that they fell in love with themselves and the whole "Michigan Man" crap.

 

The fact that he's going to coach the bowl game (apparently he also did that when Bielema left) and not one of the assistant/position coaches, says that he really wants to be a coach, but he knows he can't. Has there been another case where an AD has stepped in to be a temporary coach?

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The seniors asked Alvarez to coach the bowl game. Both years. How would they feel if he said no? I don't know how hands on Alvarez is, but the journos covering UW say he spends more time at his Florida home these days than he does in Madison.

These are angles that the national guys have taken on Andersen's depature without actually researching any facts. I think Wisconsin was just a poor fit for Andersen, he didn't like that they are uncomfortable with jucos, so when the OSU job came up he grabbed it. And honestly it's fine. Andersen and his staff were not that special. I was more upset when Bielema left.

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What is the rule on eligibility?  Mariota has his degree, but he still has one year of eligibility left.  Can he still play, even if he doesn't need to attend classes?

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What is the rule on eligibility?  Mariota has his degree, but he still has one year of eligibility left.  Can he still play, even if he doesn't need to attend classes?

 

I think he would do what Leinart did -- take ballroom dancing only (I believe that's what he did).

 

But you have to be a student in some capacity...

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Yeah, he could play around and take some soft phys ed elective. He only has to be eligible for a semester after all. Or he could be a graduate student.

 

But it's probably a moot point anyway...I do wonder if Chip Kelly will trade the farm to get him.

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After all, how many Heisman winners really do well in the NFL? I don't know if there's percentages, but it's gotta be 25% or less.

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Uh, I think I made a mistake turning away from today's Bahama Bowl. Thirty four points in the fourth quarter?!?!?

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When I saw the score at halftime, I didn't bother watching it.  But when I read elsewhere that the score had gotten close, I turned it on just in time to see that amazing final play.  Yet another reason I love college football, for the occasional batshit crazy endings like that.

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Uh, I think I made a mistake turning away from today's Bahama Bowl. Thirty four points in the fourth quarter?!?!?

 

Which should not have happened at all.  I could see giving up 14 points, maybe even 21, but 34?  Western Kentucky was thatclose to choking the game away.

 

Overall I haven't been impressed with these bowl games.

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