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29 minutes ago, RedHawk said:

I always thought her name was alluding to Nastassja Kinski, the famous (especially in the '80s and early '90s) actress and model. And Nijinsky the famous ballet dancer.

I think you'll get your request. I read (somewhere, and I may be wrong) that the scenes in this episode are Stanford's last. The actor passed away before any more could be filmed.

The weird thing is, Carrie used the name "Nijinsky" specifically to mock Natasha's name.  Pretending that it was a stupid name that nobody could remember.

Then the show actually gave her that as the last name.  Which I find REALLY weird.  It's like giving Aleks the last name Russian or giving John James the last name Big.

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15 hours ago, BitterApple said:

I'm thinking mid to late 40s? I'm not sure how old Carrie is supposed to be in this series, but I distinctly remember Natasha was 25-ish when she married Big. I think that was mentioned in the SATC episode where they went to the Hamptons. 

Not knocking you personally but this show has gone out of its way over the first three episodes to say the characters' ages out loud several times. Carrie is 55. Miranda met her on the steps of the college and said something like "You're the only 55-year-old sitting on these steps." They are working overtime to make it clear these people are OLD. Not that most of us consider mid 50s to be "old" (I call it "middle middle age") but the show sure thinks they are.

Now watch them have someone their age refer to Carrie as a "young widow" when she wants to start dating again.

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25 minutes ago, RedHawk said:

"Legitimate will-related issues"? No. Carrie wasn't going to have to hand Natasha a check. That's all handled by lawyers,

Bequests are not "handled by lawyers" but instead by the executor (though an executor can also be a lawyer). No one suggested Carrie would "hand" Natasha a check, and Carrie's clearly not the executor since the executor would know about the will - and Carrie clearly did not. It's hardly unreasonable to suggest that Carrie should be entitled to a few seconds of conversation from a former wife in exchange for a $1 million dollar bequest from her late husband. Not really a big ask.

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4 hours ago, ahpny said:

Bequests are not "handled by lawyers" but instead by the executor (though an executor can also be a lawyer). No one suggested Carrie would "hand" Natasha a check, and Carrie's clearly not the executor since the executor would know about the will - and Carrie clearly did not. It's hardly unreasonable to suggest that Carrie should be entitled to a few seconds of conversation from a former wife in exchange for a $1 million dollar bequest from her late husband. Not really a big ask.

The lawyer who read the will is most likely the executor. Or it may be Gloria, but then she probably would have known about Natasha. No one else (besides Miranda) was in the room, and the executor would have been there.

I don't think it was any of Carrie's business. Most women who had had an affair with a married man in his own home, then when caught in that home by the wife ran away and basically caused her physical injury, and is herself inheriting untold millions really doesn't have that much right to pursue the former wife for some sort of explanation. And I'll add, if she does have some right to an explanation, then she can act like an adult and leave a message or send a letter to Natasha asking for a short meeting. Stalking her was ridiculously entitled behavior. Carrie and Big were married; she didn't own him.

As it turned out, Natasha didn't know anything about the bequest beforehand. It was her late husband's wish and Carrie apparently had never asked him about his will. If they were so happy she shouldn't have worried that it was some token gift for an affair, or whatever. It seems he felt bad and wanted to say he was sorry in the way he knew how, just as Carrie later said. But she had to have her insecurities nursed and her guilt calmed (she figured she deserved it if they had an affair). Ugh, Carrie is so emotionally stunted. But now she has her "happy sad" again so all is well in her world.

4 hours ago, Ms Blue Jay said:

Yes and in Season 6 there was an episode named "Catch 38" where Carrie was 38.  That was 2004.  So the show is following their own math to the letter.

Except for Brady's age. Several have calculated that he would be 20 now.

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24 minutes ago, RedHawk said:

The lawyer who read the will is most likely the executor. Or it maybe Gloria, but then she probably would have known about Natasha. No one else (besides Miranda) was in the room, and the executor would have been there.

I don't think it was any of Carrie's business. Most women who had had an affair with a married man in his own home, then when caught in that home by the wife ran away and basically caused her physical injury, and is herself inheriting untold millions really doesn't have that much right to pursue the former wife for some sort of explanation. And I'll add, if she does have some right to an explanation, then she can act like an adult and leave a message or send a letter to Natasha asking for a short meeting. Stalking her was ridiculously entitled behavior. Carrie and Big were married. She didn't own him.

As it turned out, Natasha didn't know anything about the bequest beforehand. It was her late husband's wish and Carrie apparently had never asked him about his will. If they were so happy she shouldn't have worried that it was some token gift for an affair, or whatever. It seems he felt bad and wanted to say he was sorry in the way he knew how, just as Carrie later said. But she had to have her insecurities nursed and her guilt calmed (she figured she deserved it if they had an affair). Ugh, Carrie is so emotionally stunted. But now she has her "happy sad" again so all is well in her world.

Except for Brady's age. Several have calculated that he would be 20 now.

How old or young is Brady now?

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Some things never change...one of which is Carrie being self absorbed and blaming Natasha.  What Carrie doesn't get is that she was the other woman, not Natasha.  

In the original show, Carrie did get called out on occasion by the other women.  I hope this show does this.

 

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14 hours ago, Not4Me said:

Honestly I can’t fault SJP for that, she’s maintained a naturally fit body and healthy lifestyle and it shows, yet it has aged her to a degree because she very little body fat. To be honest if I was a 55 year old woman, I’d be happy to live with the old lady hands if it means I’d still have a killer dancer’s body. 

If a healthy lifestyle includes decades of chainsmoking to maintain her naturally fit body,  then I agree with this. 

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30 minutes ago, JAYJAY1979 said:

Some things never change...one of which is Carrie being self absorbed and blaming Natasha.  What Carrie doesn't get is that she was the other woman, not Natasha.  

In the original show, Carrie did get called out on occasion by the other women.  I hope this show does this.

 

They sure didn't call her out on stalking Natasha at her work and were right there with her. True friends would have told her she was sleep deprived (which Miranda alluded to) and stressed out and she should write Natasha a letter or make an actual appointment to see her.

ETA: As my husband often reminds me, "It's a TV show, honey" so  I'm laughing at myself for all these "she should have" or "they should have" comments. Sometimes I just don't believe anyone would act the way these gals do, and that's what's annoying.

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27 minutes ago, Ms Blue Jay said:

Brady was such a cute kid.  It's a shame that they've ruined him and so many other things about this series.

You can be cute when you're young and awkward when you're older.  Think Olsen twins.

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1 hour ago, mansonlamps said:

If a healthy lifestyle includes decades of chainsmoking to maintain her naturally fit body,  then I agree with this. 

Personally, I think the long messy hair ages her. I know it’s her own hair & it was a Carrie thing but now I think it just weighs her down. IMO!!!

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34 minutes ago, ByaNose said:

Personally, I think the long messy hair ages her. I know it’s her own hair & it was a Carrie thing but now I think it just weighs her down. IMO!!!

Shallow of me (but how perfect for this show), but SJP/Carrie is a perfect 55 - she looks 35 from the back and 75 from the front. And from the front, that long hair says "hag."

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Yea Steve and Miranda just letting their sons gf basically move in is gross. My parents were not strict I basically did what I want but I never would’ve been allowed to just have some guy move in and have loud sex. That would’ve been weird and awkward. And wasn’t the chick just walking around in a t-shirt basically. Like kick her the fuck out. Brady seems like a douche too. The actor was in Life in pieces as well basically playing the same character.

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Miranda didn't tolerate Steve acting like a kid in her old apartment, why would she tolerate Brady acting like this?  Coming from an Asian household this is just unimaginable to me.  LOL. I was barely let out of the house period.

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3 hours ago, Marley said:

Yea Steve and Miranda just letting their sons gf basically move in is gross. My parents were not strict I basically did what I want but I never would’ve been allowed to just have some guy move in and have loud sex. That would’ve been weird and awkward. And wasn’t the chick just walking around in a t-shirt basically. Like kick her the fuck out. Brady seems like a douche too. The actor was in Life in pieces as well basically playing the same character.

Miranda asking Steve if they accidentally adopted her made me think "and where are HER parents in all this?' Have they met the girl's parents and come to some agreement that sleepovers are ok? If so, why are they always there sexing it up and not sometimes at the other home? I don't get why the other parent(s) don't seem to exist, especially when it's more usual that the girl's parents would not want her openly having sex with her boyfriend, either in their home or in his. We deserve at least one reference to the fact that they know who her parents are, otherwise they look like idiots and way too lenient.

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5 hours ago, JAYJAY1979 said:

Some things never change...one of which is Carrie being self absorbed and blaming Natasha.  What Carrie doesn't get is that she was the other woman, not Natasha.  

I agree.  Natasha owes her nothing.  Carrie expects everybody to forgive her (Carrie to Aidan: "you HAVE to forgive me.")     No, Carrie.  People don't HAVE to forgive you.  You can't go around hurting other people and expect their immediate forgiveness.  Grow the eff up.  

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2 hours ago, Ms Blue Jay said:

Miranda didn't tolerate Steve acting like a kid in her old apartment, why would she tolerate Brady acting like this?  Coming from an Asian household this is just unimaginable to me.  LOL. I was barely let out of the house period.

Same here. I just can not imagine being 17 and being that blatant in my household.

I also wonder if they would be so permissive if they had a daughter. There is usually such a double standard about stuff like this for girls.

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As a Steve hater for life, I will take the unpopular stance that it's past time Miranda kicked him to the curb. Also, I'm enjoying the heck out of Che (based on this one episode. I didn't watch the previous two that have aired because I'm just not in a place to handle grief/death in my entertainment right now). It's great that one of them is getting set up for some action from a younger stud since Samantha isn't here to to handle that trope. And Miranda has had some of the worst luck with love interests, so I feel she's still owed something awesome there. Get it, Mir! Stop the drinking!

I enjoyed seeing Natasha again. I was amused at the cramped four top scene. I laughed inappropriately hard at the staging of the enormous black-and-white photo of the sheep in the Italian countryside at Natasha's office, with Carrie looking nervous and -- sheepish! -- right next to it. I had INCREDIBLY low expectations for this reboot, and I always liked the early seasons the most, but this picked up pretty smoothly. I'm uncertain how committed I am to watching this all the way though, but I was expecting something horrible like the movies. This feels like a vast improvement over those already.

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I was always a big Steve hater, but in this reboot, Miranda is acting hateable, and Steve isn't.   Ben Affleck just told Howard Stern that he had to drink because he was stuck in an unhappy marriage blah blah and that's what Miranda basically seems like now.....  Do something about it.

Carrie has always been this way.  Nothing's changed.

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2 hours ago, ChitChat said:

I agree.  Natasha owes her nothing.  Carrie expects everybody to forgive her (Carrie to Aidan: "you HAVE to forgive me.")     No, Carrie.  People don't HAVE to forgive you.  You can't go around hurting other people and expect their immediate forgiveness.  Grow the eff up.  

O. M. G. That scene where Carrie came to Aidan’s door and kept repeating “You HAVE to forgive me” over and over really made me see red. Besides being irritatingly repetitive to the point I wanted to freaking strangle her, it was just plain wrong. She did something unforgivable and he damn well did NOT have to forgive her if he didn’t want to.

ETA: WTH was the thing about changing the table to a four top? Was the original table supposed to be a triangle? Stanford was right that parties of three are usually seated at a four top, so that just made no sense. And the shtick with the door hitting Stanford over and over was just plain dumb.

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56 minutes ago, CarpeFelis said:

ETA: WTH was the thing about changing the table to a four top? Was the original table supposed to be a triangle? Stanford was right that parties of three are usually seated at a four top, so that just made no sense. And the shtick with the door hitting Stanford over and over was just plain dumb.

You would think that a good restaurant--and I can't imagine these people eating at a commonplace restaurant, only the best for our ladies--would never, ever allow such a situation to occur. They would be too afraid of the online reviews. And yes, partiers of three are usually seated at a four-top.

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48 minutes ago, CeeBeeGee said:

You would think that a good restaurant--and I can't imagine these people eating at a commonplace restaurant, only the best for our ladies--would never, ever allow such a situation to occur. They would be too afraid of the online reviews. And yes, partiers of three are usually seated at a four-top.

I didn't get the point of having the servers repeatedly banging into Stanford's chair. Yes, haha, it really wasn't a 4-top and because they changed from a party of 3 to 4 they got the crappy table, or it was only a 3-top all along. Were we supposed to find that hilarious? It was just totally, pointlessly annoying. Were we to think they also got the worst table because they are "old" and not hip young things who look good in the front of the house? No idea. Sad way to remember Stanford, getting banged like that. ;-)

And speaking of being old and getting called out by your kids for smelling like weed, I did notice that at Che's show Charlotte called it "pot". I have realized that no one except old people like me (55 and up) call it that now. For years now it's almost universally been called "weed" and although I still think "pot" I correct myself before I say it. So they got that right, that time marches on and your slang goes tellingly out of date.

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11 minutes ago, RedHawk said:

And speaking of being old and getting called out by your kids for smelling like weed, I did notice that at Che's show Charlotte called it "pot". I have realized that no one except old people like me (55 and up) call it that now. For years now it's almost universally been called "weed" and although I still think "pot" I correct myself before I say it. So they got that right, that time marches on and your slang goes tellingly out of date.

OMG, this is hilarious. Okay, I am freakishly young-looking and still get carded (seriously, I'm a freak), although I am close to Carrie's age. But I have a ton of younger friends because I have worked in theater. A few years ago there was a party attended/hosted by lot of those younger friends. Eventually discussion came up about marijuana and at some point I was all "I haven't done pot in [YXZ] years now" and everyone had an amused reaction. And later on someone pointed out how adorable that was--how I'd referred to it. It's still an ongoing joke. And I'm all like befuddled "What? What did I say?"

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12 hours ago, CarpeFelis said:

But would a prenup apply if they were still married when he died?

Different jurisdiction, of course, but the same principles may apply:  in Ontario, pre-nups (and separation agreements) may include provisions to limit, or provide for, inheritance and are still binding on death if the contact so provides.  It’s most common when there are children from a previous relationship involved, so that the subsequent marriage doesn’t disinherit the children, but it’s a contract and the parties can agree to whatever they want.  Any NY lawyers here to weigh in on differences?

 

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10 hours ago, CeeBeeGee said:

Eventually discussion came up about marijuana and at some point I was all "I haven't done pot in [YXZ] years now" and everyone had an amused reaction. And later on someone pointed out how adorable that was--how I'd referred to it. It's still an ongoing joke. And I'm all like befuddled "What? What did I say?"

When brought up in a conversation, I still call it "pot."  Thing is, CeeBeeGee, they can laugh and think you're not cool, but truth be told, those of us who went through the 60's & 70's are way more cool than we get credit for!  Oh, the things that we saw and experienced!   ;) 

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19 hours ago, CarpeFelis said:

ETA: WTH was the thing about changing the table to a four top? Was the original table supposed to be a triangle? Stanford was right that parties of three are usually seated at a four top, so that just made no sense. And the shtick with the door hitting Stanford over and over was just plain dumb.

If Stanford hadn't been there, the table would still have been near the kitchen, but the door wouldn't be banging into anyone. Although that table can theoretically seat 4, in its current location, it should only ever seat 3.

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On 12/18/2021 at 8:12 AM, RedHawk said:

"Legitimate will-related issues"? No. Carrie wasn't going to have to hand Natasha a check. That's all handled by lawyers, and we don't know exactly how much time passed between the "reading of the will" and the lawyer contacting Natasha about the bequest. Perhaps it was the first call he made after Carrie left his office. I laughed (and had predicted) that Carrie had never seen Big's will -- and they were married for ~10 years. After two divorces Big kept total control of his money.

Emotionally intense will-related issues, yes. Carrie spent a full day spinning out of control and stalking Natasha (she had found out where she lived), then got caught after trying to get to her at her job! Not even in grief it is ok to push into someone's office. Natasha doesn't know Carrie, all she knows is Carrie's previous and current behavior. Natasha expected her lawyer to tell Carrie's lawyer (who would then tell Carrie) that she refused the bequest. Beyond that, she owed Carrie nothing. The kindness she showed Carrie in the coffee shop was lovely. And I think she simply lied when she said "...he was always in love with you." She saw Carrie was agonized over the bequest, thinking it meant something it didn't. Natasha moved on from Big and has a great life, so my take (and I'm sticking with it since I don't believe Big was in love with Carrie when he married Natasha) is that she was being generous as a way of closing that chapter (Big and Carrie) of her life. 

Natasha owes Carrie NOTHING.  And I think that Rome story was specifically said to her and she’d KNOW it was a lie.  She blocked you on Instgram. Here’s $10.  Buy a fucking clue.  

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17 hours ago, RedHawk said:

I didn't get the point of having the servers repeatedly banging into Stanford's chair. Yes, haha, it really wasn't a 4-top and because they changed from a party of 3 to 4 they got the crappy table, or it was only a 3-top all along. Were we supposed to find that hilarious? It was just totally, pointlessly annoying. Were we to think they also got the worst table because they are "old" and not hip young things who look good in the front of the house? No idea.

If Stanford hadn't been there, the table would still have been near the kitchen, but the door wouldn't be banging into anyone. Although that table can theoretically seat 4, in its current location, it should only ever seat 3.

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12 hours ago, RedHawk said:

I didn't get the point of having the servers repeatedly banging into Stanford's chair. 

 

I assumed it was for the, "You're used to getting banged in the back," joke. Outside of that, I honestly can't think of any other reason for that ridiculous setup. 

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On 12/16/2021 at 7:41 AM, Hana Chan said:

On the plus side, Natasha's teeth looked great.

Natasha/Bridget looked great, period.  

On 12/16/2021 at 6:04 PM, greekmom said:

Carrie went overboard stalking Natasha. Natasha should really learn to lock

Natasha absolutely would have locked the door.  This is an over-used sitcom trope -- just saw it on The Chair recently. 

On 12/16/2021 at 7:40 PM, LiterateDog said:

Also, if what Che does is what passes for stand-up comedy today, the end truly is nigh. There was nothing funny about that. 

Sounds like I was wise to Ffwd. I don't watch the podcast scenes either.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Inquisitionist said:

Natasha absolutely would have locked the door.  This is an over-used sitcom trope -- just saw it on The Chair recently. 

I agree and I can't stand it.  Does anyone find that funny?  A woman being walked in on in the washroom?  Natasha would have locked and why didn't Carrie knock?!

1 hour ago, Inquisitionist said:

Natasha/Bridget looked great, period.  

Oh yeah, Bridget looks phenomenal, and I love the classy/simple style they give Natasha.

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4 hours ago, 4evaQuez said:

I assumed it was for the, "You're used to getting banged in the back," joke. Outside of that, I honestly can't think of any other reason for that ridiculous setup. 

Samantha would have made that joke. Miss her so much.

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20 hours ago, Rai said:

As a Steve hater for life, I will take the unpopular stance that it's past time Miranda kicked him to the curb. Also, I'm enjoying the heck out of Che (based on this one episode. I didn't watch the previous two that have aired because I'm just not in a place to handle grief/death in my entertainment right now). It's great that one of them is getting set up for some action from a younger stud since Samantha isn't here to to handle that trope. And Miranda has had some of the worst luck with love interests, so I feel she's still owed something awesome there. Get it, Mir! Stop the drinking!

I enjoyed seeing Natasha again. I was amused at the cramped four top scene. I laughed inappropriately hard at the staging of the enormous black-and-white photo of the sheep in the Italian countryside at Natasha's office, with Carrie looking nervous and -- sheepish! -- right next to it. I had INCREDIBLY low expectations for this reboot, and I always liked the early seasons the most, but this picked up pretty smoothly. I'm uncertain how committed I am to watching this all the way though, but I was expecting something horrible like the movies. This feels like a vast improvement over those already.

Lol they are 9 years apart. Hardly a younger stud. The Che being a gem z or something makes me laugh. Which is what the show seems to be going for but they are failing and it’s cringey as hell to me.

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20 hours ago, Ms Blue Jay said:

I was always a big Steve hater, but in this reboot, Miranda is acting hateable, and Steve isn't.   Ben Affleck just told Howard Stern that he had to drink because he was stuck in an unhappy marriage blah blah and that's what Miranda basically seems like now.....  Do something about it.

Carrie has always been this way.  Nothing's changed.

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I never liked Steve. Liked him even less with Miranda. So as much as I would be thrilled to see her leave him I'm just not buying her with Che. I see zero chemistry and their personalities are just too different.

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Lol they are 9 years apart. Hardly a younger stud. The Che being a gem z or something makes me laugh. Which is what the show seems to be going for but they are failing and it’s cringey as hell to me.

If the show wanted us to think Che was Gen Z or a millennial then perhaps they should have hired an actor in that age range. Seems like they are writing the role to fit Sara Ramirez.

And as far as this show being a comedy yes we might be laughing but it's not in the places they think we should be.

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1 hour ago, Ms Blue Jay said:

I agree and I can't stand it.  Does anyone find that funny?  A woman being walked in on in the washroom?  Natasha would have locked and why didn't Carrie knock?!

Add me to the I can't stand that.  Carrie thought it was vacant because of the vacant green by the handle. If Natasha locked the door, it would have been red and Carrie wouldn't be able to open the door.

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On 12/18/2021 at 10:12 AM, RedHawk said:

"Legitimate will-related issues"? No. Carrie wasn't going to have to hand Natasha a check. That's all handled by lawyers, and we don't know exactly how much time passed between the "reading of the will" and the lawyer contacting Natasha about the bequest. Perhaps it was the first call he made after Carrie left his office. I laughed (and had predicted) that Carrie had never seen Big's will -- and they were married for ~10 years. After two divorces Big kept total control of his money.

Emotionally intense will-related issues, yes. Carrie spent a full day spinning out of control and stalking Natasha (she had found out where she lived), then got caught after trying to get to her at her job! Not even in grief it is ok to push into someone's office. Natasha doesn't know Carrie, all she knows is Carrie's previous and current behavior. Natasha expected her lawyer to tell Carrie's lawyer (who would then tell Carrie) that she refused the bequest. Beyond that, she owed Carrie nothing. The kindness she showed Carrie in the coffee shop was lovely. And I think she simply lied when she said "...he was always in love with you." She saw Carrie was agonized over the bequest, thinking it meant something it didn't. Natasha moved on from Big and has a great life, so my take (and I'm sticking with it since I don't believe Big was in love with Carrie when he married Natasha) is that she was being generous as a way of closing that chapter (Big and Carrie) of her life. 

💯 on all this.

And I didn't think Big was in love with Carrie either when he decided to marry Natasha. I think he was in love with Natasha, at least, for a period of time.

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On 12/16/2021 at 10:04 AM, Yeah No said:

Case in point was the aspiring way they treated Samantha's "I don't do borough" and then depicting borough people to be rough cut caricatures straight out of a sitcom.  I'm originally from the Bronx so that didn't get past me.  

Something similar happened to me when Carrie was visiting Aidan's "country" house in Suffern. I grew up very near by (same county) and was in Suffern a good amount when those episodes aired - everyone in the area was like ??? at all of the jokes of it being like some sort of backwater hick town. "Make a right at the sign for farm fresh summer squash"? What are you even on about? 

On 12/17/2021 at 12:39 AM, Surrealist said:

Yeah. I got the impression that Natasha's boys were under 18. 

For sure. Those mini-ritz sandwich crackers Natasha dumped out are definitely not the snack of a college age son.

On 12/17/2021 at 8:42 AM, violet and green said:

Well, I am the lone loon who expected her to be at the funeral.

In your defense, Susan Sharon was there, so.

On 12/17/2021 at 7:50 PM, Ms Blue Jay said:

Anthony has always been the funniest character on the show (after Samantha).

"And I don't want short, stubby, little broken-off DICK candles, I want looooong tapers."

 

Stalking Natasha to get her answers, Natasha's feelings be damned, was very on-brand for Carrie.

Being of the sparkly, gold sequin purse-owning persuasion, I love Carrie's sparkly, purple sequin purse that she was using at the end of the episode.

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Yea Natasha said she dropped her kids off at Trinity school or at least that’s what it sounded like and that’s K-12.

Big leaving her a million dollars is weird. Hey sorry o fucked around on you however many years ago but here’s a mil. Almost condescending like.

Big not telling Carrie about it is kind of rude. Like a mind fuck from the grave. I mean makes sense why he didn’t but still.

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1 hour ago, Alice Mudgarden said:

Being of the sparkly, gold sequin purse-owning persuasion, I love Carrie's sparkly, purple sequin purse that she was using at the end of the episode.

I think (or it looked like) it was a Dior saddle bag, which was a nice callback to the original series.

 

I couldn’t help but wonder (heh) if the door-smacking that Stanford endured was some way of demonstrating that he really wasn’t supposed to be there. That either he shouldn’t be there because he doesn’t fit as THE fourth and/or b) that if there was a fourth, it should have been Samantha. Like the fourth person was paying penance for not being Samantha.  I don’t mean Stanford should not have been there in the sense that he shouldn’t have come—he was invited—but in the sense that Stanford As Fourth was just Not What Was Supposed to Be, so we will smack the viewer over their head with this via a constant smack of a door (paired with Stanford’s uncharacteristic rudeness).

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