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Sandoval goes the extra mile to help Schwartz produce his fertility specimen, while Lala expresses concerns to Scheana over Brock's sordid past. James and Raquel host a family engagement dinner, but Raquel's sister worries Raquel will spend her life fixing James's problems. And when Lisa inquires about Katie's role in the Toms' new business, an explosive argument erupts between Sandoval and Katie, leaving Schwartz torn between his wife and his best friend.

 

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You know Sandoval's lost it when even sanctimonious Ariana won't back him up. I feel like with Stassi gone, he's refocused all that vitriol at Katie. 

James will never not be an asshole. 

Ooh, what's the skinny on Brock? From the previews, it looks like Lala uncovered some dirt. 

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Tom Sandoval is kind of a joke. I 100% do not believe they spent $25K on that lame little mock festival they did and if it was $25K then I’m sure the show paid for it. I doubt it tho. Tom Sandoval gets off on ppl thinking he’s this great giving guy but I don’t know if he genuinely is.

The name for the bar is really lame. I doubt the bar will really ever actually open tho. Not rooting against it but they just seem like such idiots about the whole thing.

James and Raquel? I do not care about anything they do. Good luck with all that.

LVP? No thanks. Stop trying to make a Max storyline happen. 

Wow James sure seems like he’s turned a new leaf and is a changed man..as he berates his fiancé about not even bumping the ring he just gave her otherwise he will freak out. As he says how expensive it is to look like some big shot. Hey Raquel no one is jealous of your ring. You are engaged to a huge dbag. She’s an idiot but pls she deserves better then that emotional one day probably physical abusive douche. He obviously is not sorry for anything he said to Max he’s just worried if it’ll affect him on the show or something.

Brock is prob a deadbeat dad but should LaLa really be judging anyone.

James mom is still a loser and an enabler of her loser son. 

I feel like when Katie is saying her and Tom are trying for 5 months she means they are having sex like once a month and hoping it works lol.

Tom Sandoval is judging ppl on yelling as he screams like a maniac about something years ago. Katie is no peach but Tom needs to get a grip lol.

 

 

 

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13 minutes ago, Marley said:

James mom is still a loser and an enabler of her loser son. 

I feel like when Katie is saying her and Tom are trying for 5 months she means they are having sex like once a month and hoping it works lol.

My thoughts exactly about Katie!  As for James' horrible mom - I loved the looks on Rachelle's sister's face every time his mom spoke up to justify his horrible treatment of Max 😄. Not that I'm interested in a Max storyline either.  I hope he gets himself more of a life than the "stars" of his mom's show.

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Haven't seen the full episode yet, but I did see bits of WWHL and James, whom I still have a little soft spot for, gave Raquel a little attaboy after one of the segments when she exhibited more confidence and spoke in a more normal cadence than we're used to seeing on Vanderpump Rules when she speaks, and I thought that was sweet.

I'm fine with Lisa's appearances. It's not an awful lot and she is, after all, their den mother, Who knows where they might be if she hadn't come into their lives and if Sandoval's businesses don't pan out he's learned he'd make a good event planer, loll.

Agree with others' posts about Katie and Tom's efforts to procreate. Theirs is one of the least passionate relationships I've ever seen. And, sorry, not sorry, I don't blame Sandoval for not wanting her to be involved in this so-called new venture. He is over the top, but Katie had better hope his affection for and friendship with her lazy-ass husband lasts a lifetime so she and Schwartz don't end up in the poor house. And did I read somewhere that Schwartz was once pre-med?

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Did I hear that right??  Raquel’s cousin is actually her bio-sister?  
 

James is actually sweet with Raquel when she expresses that she feels nervous and unworthy of friendship and love.  

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12 minutes ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

I wonder what Sandoval will name Schwartz’s baby.

Sandy. Works for a boy or a girl.

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4 hours ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

Has Sandoval always smoked cigarettes?

Yeah, he had a lot of fights with Kristen while they'd both be smoking. She would use Tom excusing himself to go have a cig to corner him during the psychotic post break-up season when she was with James. 

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Sandoval is GENERALLY the most likeable (a REALLY low bar) of the Real Housewives of West Hollywood (my new nickname for VR), and then he pulls that idiot nonsense.  I mean, again, Katie's awful but rise above a little bit, eh?

Lala has been successful with her promo and brand on this show, but is just a completely horrendous, godawful human being.  Giving other people moral guidance, lord.

I know they're still together and I know that she probably doesn't entirely deserve it or agree, but I sort of wish someone normal and reasonably decent would steal Raquel away from James the uberdouche.  I still am not sure this feud with Max is anything, because I don't think LVP needs him on this show and to have him treating her son the way he does AND keep him around?  Granted, there may be a slightly European/British cultural thing here as far as not being put off by it, but yeesh.

I fast-forward Schwartz and Katie now, it's just gross.  I found myself begging for Charli lording it over these domestic bores about her own social life and maybe sleeping around lot or something.

I did find the intro (outro?) picture of everyone kind of weird.  Look, it's Peter in the back!  And some other people I really don't recognize at all.

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7 hours ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

I wonder what Sandoval will name Schwartz’s baby.

TiTi.  Pronounced "Titty".

7 hours ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

Has Sandoval always smoked cigarettes?

I think this is the first time I've seen him.  Kristen, always.  FI, no.

1 hour ago, Lassus said:

Real Housewives of West Hollywood (my new nickname for VR),

 

😆😆😆😆 Oh my god, you're so funny!!!

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This week, on the Real Housewives of WeHo (™ Lassus) ...

  • Did I hear Flat Iron Tom say he used money for their new bar to pay for Rachella? 😱 And then said he hadn't gotten the loan yet?😱
  • Is it a requirement for Bravo shows that at least one couple do a fertility clinic ep? This is beyond tedious, and TBH, as  much as I like that man-child, Katie and Tom seem should not have children. Oh yeah, must the Toms do everything together? Ick.
  • Was it editing, or do DJ Muppet Baby and Raquel's families not seem to get along? Did anyone catch what Raquel said about her mother being her aunt and her adopted sister being her cousin? 😕 Also, was James's mother being played by an extra from Planet of the Apes?
  • LaLa is giving advice to Schemer now. Is this the world we live in? Naturally, Schemer digs in her heels about Great Value Aquaman being a deadbeat dad. 
  • Successful businesswoman Lisa Vanderbucks inquires into the Toms' new business that I am sure is never going to happen and we find more reasons: FI Tom got his way with the name in exchange for helping Schwartz produce a sperm sample and they're still arguing about Katie being a partner.

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56 minutes ago, Gharlane said:

FI Tom got his way with the name in exchange for helping Schwartz produce a sperm sample

This is something I must have mercifully fast-forwarded through.  Is Schwartz literally so simple he needs advice fucking masturbating?  

EDIT: I mean, to be clear, it's nice to get help, and for friends to WANT to help, but that's not at all what I find gross here.  It's that he required the help ENOUGH that it was usable leverage, and required recompense?  Oy.

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1 hour ago, Gharlane said:

Did anyone catch what Raquel said about her mother being her aunt and her adopted sister being her cousin?

 

That reminds me of Ted Bundy's older sister who turned out to be his mother, and whom he thought was his mother was actually his grandmother.  But he turned out okay, so I think Raquel will be fine.

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I loved the way Scheana phrased this:

Brock doesn't get to see his kids. 

No. It's like this:

Brock doesn't see his kids.  Huge difference, Scheana, huge. 

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6 minutes ago, Shauna said:

I loved the way Scheana phrased this:

Brock doesn't get to see his kids. 

No. It's like this:

Brock doesn't see his kids.  Huge difference, Scheana, huge. 

Yep, a few of my friends don't get to see their kids much because of divorce and the family court vultures.  But my friends are DESPERATE to see their kids, and wish they could, everyday.  Also with the people who were overseas before Covid and couldn't move back to Australia (and still), so they don't get to see their kids either (in person), but they also are dying to.

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I mean, Brock might be a horrible, uncaring, indifferent dad. It sounds bad, and as they say, is not a good look.

But I'm not taking third-hand scolding from Lala Kent on whether someone is proper parent or proper human being as fact without more information.  There's an awful lot of COVID travel restrictions within the past two years, and Australia has had very serious shutdowns.  And "deadbeat" implies a lack of support on top of absence. 

I fully admit that if this was someone else asking for the full story, inquiring about more information and expressing concern, sure.  I'd be more likely accept that.  But it's fucking Lala being Lala.  So, no.

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I turned this pile of shit off when toolbag Sandoval was taking credit for Jame's proposal. Good friends do shit like that and they don't have to let the whole world know about it.

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3 hours ago, Gharlane said:

FI Tom got his way with the name in exchange for helping Schwartz produce a sperm sample.

I think Schwartz yielded because he claimed Sandoval’s Rachella impressed him so much.

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17 hours ago, snarts said:

Ooh, what's the skinny on Brock? From the previews, it looks like Lala uncovered some dirt. 

I suspect it will turn out to be an editing trick to make us want to watch next week.  

 

17 hours ago, Marley said:

I feel like when Katie is saying her and Tom are trying for 5 months she means they are having sex like once a month and hoping it works lol.

I agree. These two strike me as being lazy and not particularly in love with each other.

 

8 hours ago, Lassus said:

Sandoval is GENERALLY the most likable (a REALLY low bar) of the Real Housewives of West Hollywood (my new nickname for VR)

I love it! I only wish it were something even less glamorous than "Real Housewives of Weho"! LOL

Maybe "The Real Housewives of Lisa Vanderbucks"? 

 

8 hours ago, Lassus said:

I did find the intro (outro?) picture of everyone kind of weird.  Look, it's Peter in the back!  And some other people I really don't recognize at all.

I noticed the very same thing when watching the repeat before this ep! Who are these people? Is the black guy a new cast member that hasn't shown up yet?

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4 hours ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

Does James understand what a “Tiffany diamond” is?

I don’t think he understands that diamonds are super hard and she doesn’t need to worry about “dinging it” on things at work 🙄

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I actually understand where Sandoval was coming from when it comes to Katie. IMO, he was right at the time that Katie should not have been yelling at him in front of other patrons. And I think he worries that Katie will try to undermine him in this new venture. Now, I also think he should get over the book party thing because it was a while ago (and because he was wrong to send rage texts to Stassi). But I don't think he's totally wrong that Katie would try to undermine him - for all of his considerable flaws, I think that Sandoval out of all of them has the drive to actually build a small empire, and I think he understand what it takes to do that. And neither Katie nor Schwartz do, IMO. 

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Sandoval: “I told James, ‘Dude, if you’re proposing to Raquel, we have to make it fucking amazing or we’re not doing it at all.’” Um, I’m guessing he meant the Raquella festival, but it sounded like WE’RE not getting engaged to Raquel at all. $25,000?!? Sandoval actually spent $12,500 of his own money on his friend’s proposal?!? Oh my god. I don’t have any friends that I like THAT much! Does Sandoval understand that one has to pay a loan back—with interest?!

These Bravolebrities are such label whores: talking up this Tiffany’s ring that isn’t actually from Tiffany’s. I’m sure they’re not the only ones who “got it at Jarrod” and then slipped that baby in a Craigslist Tiffany’s box. $100,000 ring?!?! Come on! James got fired from DJing ONE day a week, and it doesn’t appear that he works. This show can’t pay THAT much!

Who is this doing Katie’s talking head? That’s not her face! It looks like she went to Scheana’s plastic surgeon.

Oh, James, do not leave it up to Raquel to come up with an “apology toast” on her own. 

Brussel Hustle? Japanese curry fries? What is happening at this restaurant?

Sandoval is preemptively cursing Katie out for a future curse-out that he anticipates getting.

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Raquels family story confused the heck out of me. So her biological mom offered to give Raquel to her sister(raquels aunt)?  I can’t decide if I think that’s nice or really weird. 

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6 hours ago, Gharlane said:

Maybe "The Real Housewives of Lisa Vanderbucks"? 

I get this, but I'm rather on team LVP from way back.

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22 hours ago, Vipbrj said:

Raquels family story confused the heck out of me. So her biological mom offered to give Raquel to her sister(raquels aunt)?  I can’t decide if I think that’s nice or really weird. 

I believe Raquel said that her birth mom (Susan) got pregnant accidentally and then generously "offered to have me for my aunt." 

So without any other knowledge I am thinking that Susan was considering an abortion but since her sister was having fertility issues she decided to have the baby and let her sister adopt it. 

On the nice vs weird angle I will lean towards nice until we learn who the biological dad is...

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On 10/20/2021 at 11:10 AM, Lassus said:

This is something I must have mercifully fast-forwarded through.  Is Schwartz literally so simple he needs advice fucking masturbating?  

I envy you! 

FI Tom provided lube, a face shield, some porno, one of that moron's candles that smells like her nether regions, and a high-protein snack, then stood outside his door waiting for Tom to fill his sample cup. OK, I think I may be mistaken about him providing a snack...

 

On 10/20/2021 at 11:38 AM, SarahPrtr said:

That reminds me of Ted Bundy's older sister who turned out to be his mother, and whom he thought was his mother was actually his grandmother.  But he turned out okay, so I think Raquel will be fine.

I wondered what the hell you were talking about until I realized you were talking about the serial killer, not the shoe salesman. 

 

On 10/20/2021 at 3:16 PM, hoodooznoodooz said:

Does James understand what a “Tiffany diamond” is?

It certainly isn't "something I put into an empty Tiffany box I got from a friend"! I have a sneaking suspicion he got all freaked out about her “dinging it” because it's not really a diamond and quickly distracted Raquel when she started to remember that diamonds are too hard to get scratched.

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7 hours ago, Gharlane said:

FI Tom provided lube, a face shield, some porno, one of that moron's candles that smells like her nether regions, and a high-protein snack, then stood outside his door waiting for Tom to fill his sample cup. OK, I think I may be mistaken about him providing a snack...

So, he's a fan of Gwyneth Paltrow!  What are you, a rational bigot with actual intelligence??!!!

😁😁😁

7 hours ago, Gharlane said:

I wondered what the hell you were talking about until I realized you were talking about the serial killer, not the shoe salesman. 

Haha, I think they gave Al the Bundy surname on purpose!

7 hours ago, Gharlane said:

 

It certainly isn't "something I put into an empty Tiffany box I got from a friend"!

Well, you only have to look at the inside of the ring to see if it's a genuine Tiffany's, as with all brand-name jewellery.  If they knew even a tiny bit about jewellery, they would know that.

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On 10/20/2021 at 4:25 PM, Gharlane said:

Who are these people? Is the black guy a new cast member that hasn't shown up yet?

That's Richardson, a manager at Pump who's been there for a while. I remember in the good old days he and Lisa once spoke French to each other about James when James was sitting right there, and he had NO idea what was going on. It was excellent.

If Richardson is brought over to SUR or TomTom, that is good for the show (because he's awesome), but is a bad sign for the restaurant because he ranks highly in the LVP brand and probably is there to get the people in order.

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This is not me being the usual snippy bitch.  I am genuinely sad and sorry that Raquel believes that James Kennedy is the best she'll ever do and was crying because she wanted to marry him.  MARRY him and wants him to be her HUSBAND and possibly have James Kennedy's children!!!!  Hoping it's all for the cameras, but if not, then 😢😢😢😢😢

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* Katie, you and Schwartz need to work on your relationship, and you need to work on yourself, before you even think of having a kid. It’s clear you’re jealous of Sandoval and have a pretty low opinion of your husband.

* Saw glimpses of the old, angry James. 😧 So Raquel’s ring did not come from Tiffany & Co. Pretty shady move on his part, if you ask me. Why do that? Because the blue box impressed Raquel? It took some of the shine off the engagement. James in the car was a little disturbing. “Can’t be dingin’ that ring.” Why? Because it will turn to dust? You did NOT pay $100,000 for that. If you did, you might as well have gone to Tiffany. The tension between him and Raquel’s sister….Raquel could easily become James’s enabler, like she was being with the gift to Max. Max said what everyone is probably thinking.

* Sandoval and money. I’m glad he and James went halfsies on Raquella, but just like with buying the motorcycle, not the best way to spend money when you’re trying to start a bar/restaurant. Good luck to him — and to his home equity.

* I will say this for Lala — she’s right about Scheana. Brock is waving many red flags, and Scheana is staying true to her old habits. Even she knows this is wrong. “Amazing dad,” when he hasn’t seen his kids in four years? A coffee mug and wallpaper ain’t the same thing.

* I don’t think LVP has seen the true toxicity between Sandoval and Katie. The scene at the table is how it will be if she’s in this business. Based on their past history, they will not make good business partners, and Ariana, of all people, should see that.

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I really need to unpack this whole Raquel family thing.  Is this part of the reason she is so fragile?  I've never in my life heard of a person giving away their baby to their sibling who was trying to have a child.  I need more details.  Was the sister just sooo desperate and nothing worked?  Was Raquels bio-mom in a really hard up situation?  

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7 hours ago, IDreamofJoaquin said:

I really need to unpack this whole Raquel family thing.  Is this part of the reason she is so fragile?  I've never in my life heard of a person giving away their baby to their sibling who was trying to have a child.  I need more details.  Was the sister just sooo desperate and nothing worked?  Was Raquels bio-mom in a really hard up situation?  

It sounded like Raquel’s bio mother/aunt had JUST given birth to Raquel’s sister/cousin and had an oops pregnancy. It’s unusual, but I can see if this happened and your sister was desperately trying for a baby, well, it’s a slightly unorthodox method of surrogacy. It’s not unheard of for a sister to donate an egg and womb—this just saved on a hell of a lot of medical costs! (It’s slightly stranger by the fact that it’s also the uncle’s bio child?) But that being said, the sister/cousin looked WAY older than Raquel, so I was questioning my understanding there, too, because it didn’t look like they were back-to-back pregnancies after all?

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On 10/24/2021 at 8:27 AM, RoseAllDay said:

The scene at the table is how it will be if she’s in this business. Based on their past history, they will not make good business partners, and Ariana, of all people, should see that.

If limp noodle Schwartz was any kind of a husband he would tell his fucking toolbag partner not to speak to his wife that way.

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3 hours ago, Mr. Miner said:

If limp noodle Schwartz was any kind of a husband he would tell his fucking toolbag partner not to speak to his wife that way.

Schwartz really cares more for what Sandoval thinks, and thinks of him, than he does for Katie’s opinions. He’s one of the most immature people I’ve seen. He’ll never show a spine to either of them.

He and Katie need to stop and get their own shit figured out before they think of having a kid.

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On 10/20/2021 at 10:18 AM, Gharlane said:

This week, on the Real Housewives of WeHo (™ Lassus) ...

  • Did I hear Flat Iron Tom say he used money for their new bar to pay for Rachella? 😱 And then said he hadn't gotten the loan yet?😱
  • Is it a requirement for Bravo shows that at least one couple do a fertility clinic ep? This is beyond tedious, and TBH, as  much as I like that man-child, Katie and Tom seem should not have children. Oh yeah, must the Toms do everything together? Ick.
  • Was it editing, or do DJ Muppet Baby and Raquel's families not seem to get along? Did anyone catch what Raquel said about her mother being her aunt and her adopted sister being her cousin? 😕 Also, was James's mother being played by an extra from Planet of the Apes?
  • LaLa is giving advice to Schemer now. Is this the world we live in? Naturally, Schemer digs in her heels about Great Value Aquaman being a deadbeat dad. 
  • Successful businesswoman Lisa Vanderbucks inquires into the Toms' new business that I am sure is never going to happen and we find more reasons: FI Tom got his way with the name in exchange for helping Schwartz produce a sperm sample and they're still arguing about Katie being a partner.

 

Paid absolutely no attention to Tom’s sample adventure. Damn, Schwartz is so pathetic. Does he need Sandoval to go to the john with him too? Schwartz showing his “sample” to Lisa. Grow the fuck up, already! 

I got the distinct vibe that Raquel’s sister does not care for James at all. If she knows how he’s acted, or even if she knows about his texts to Raquel, why should she? The old James is slowly reemerging, and Raquel needs to be careful. Her giving the gift to Max was a huge red flag to me. James needed to do that, to keep to the AA step of making amends to friends, if nothing else. She’ll be making excuses for him before too much longer. Enabler.

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2 hours ago, RoseAllDay said:

Schwartz really cares more for what Sandoval thinks, and thinks of him, than he does for Katie’s opinions. He’s one of the most immature people I’ve seen. He’ll never show a spine to either of them.

He and Katie need to stop and get their own shit figured out before they think of having a kid.

Whether or not this is the case, he and Katie remind me of the "having a kid will fix all our issues!" kind of people. And those people are REALLY fucked up.

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16 hours ago, JenE4 said:

It sounded like Raquel’s bio mother/aunt had JUST given birth to Raquel’s sister/cousin and had an oops pregnancy. It’s unusual, but I can see if this happened and your sister was desperately trying for a baby, well, it’s a slightly unorthodox method of surrogacy. It’s not unheard of for a sister to donate an egg and womb—this just saved on a hell of a lot of medical costs! (It’s slightly stranger by the fact that it’s also the uncle’s bio child?) But that being said, the sister/cousin looked WAY older than Raquel, so I was questioning my understanding there, too, because it didn’t look like they were back-to-back pregnancies after all?

It’s like when my sister needs a phone charger and I just happen to have an extra one lying around!!!

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I'm watching the "extended footage" version and they showed Schwartz asking FI-T to help him collect his semen sample and DJ Muppet Baby's mom warning Raquel about her ring being fake. LOL! 

 

On 10/22/2021 at 5:55 PM, AnnieBananie said:

That's Richardson, a manager at Pump who's been there for a while. I remember in the good old days he and Lisa once spoke French to each other about James when James was sitting right there, and he had NO idea what was going on. It was excellent.

If Richardson is brought over to SUR or TomTom, that is good for the show (because he's awesome), but is a bad sign for the restaurant because he ranks highly in the LVP brand and probably is there to get the people in order.

I just realized Richardson got tea for sophisticated businesswoman Lisa Vanderbucks when the Toms showed her the sperm sample.

 

On 10/25/2021 at 3:28 PM, RoseAllDay said:

Paid absolutely no attention to Tom’s sample adventure. Damn, Schwartz is so pathetic. Does he need Sandoval to go to the john with him too? Schwartz showing his “sample” to Lisa. Grow the fuck up, already! 

I am sure she prompted them to do that, just like the other times they affirmed her sexiness on this show.

On 10/25/2021 at 3:28 PM, RoseAllDay said:

I got the distinct vibe that Raquel’s sister does not care for James at all. If she knows how he’s acted, or even if she knows about his texts to Raquel, why should she? The old James is slowly reemerging, and Raquel needs to be careful. Her giving the gift to Max was a huge red flag to me. James needed to do that, to keep to the AA step of making amends to friends, if nothing else. She’ll be making excuses for him before too much longer. Enabler.

Yeah, Raquel's sister definitely doesn't like him. DJ Muppet Baby's mom looks like an extra from the Planet of the Apes or someone who fell face-first into a yellow-jacket nest en route to the cafe.

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8 hours ago, Gharlane said:

I'm watching the "extended footage" version and they showed Schwartz asking FI-T to help him collect his semen sample and DJ Muppet Baby's mom warning Raquel about her ring being fake. LOL! 

 

I just realized Richardson got tea for sophisticated businesswoman Lisa Vanderbucks when the Toms showed her the sperm sample.

 

I am sure she prompted them to do that, just like the other times they affirmed her sexiness on this show.

Yeah, Raquel's sister definitely doesn't like him. DJ Muppet Baby's mom looks like an extra from the Planet of the Apes or someone who fell face-first into a yellow-jacket nest en route to the cafe.

Probably came out of a gumball machine, and he knows Raquel will be none the wiser. 

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I LOVE Raquel, i think she is gorgeous and smarter than given credit for. It seems she has filled her face with botox and her lips with fillers, which she didn't need, when she was crying, she couldn't even move her face and it looked hilarious. Why would such a naturally beautiful girl do this to her face? 

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38 minutes ago, cheewhiz said:

I LOVE Raquel, i think she is gorgeous and smarter than given credit for. It seems she has filled her face with botox and her lips with fillers, which she didn't need, when she was crying, she couldn't even move her face and it looked hilarious. Why would such a naturally beautiful girl do this to her face? 

I KNOW RIGHT???!!!!!!  That is my question to every single attractive young woman!!!!!!!!!  STOP IT FFS!!!!!!!!!

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On 10/26/2021 at 8:01 PM, Gharlane said:

I'm watching the "extended footage" version and they showed Schwartz asking FI-T to help him collect his semen sample and DJ Muppet Baby's mom warning Raquel about her ring being fake. LOL! 

 

How did Raquel react to learning that the ring isn't from Tiffany's after all?  It seemed like the Tiffany aspect was pretty important to her by the way she kept mentioning it.

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7 hours ago, Mstk3000 said:

How did Raquel react to learning that the ring isn't from Tiffany's after all?  It seemed like the Tiffany aspect was pretty important to her by the way she kept mentioning it.

I guess we will have to wait for the reunion or her next appearance with on WWHL.

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