blackwing October 8, 2021 Share October 8, 2021 On 10/6/2021 at 11:32 PM, Chicago Redshirt said: If all players choose tarp, everyone gets a tarp to bring home to their tribe. If all players choose steal, all players lose their votes. If there's a mix of steal/tarp votes, the steal players get a steal the vote advantage and the tarp players get nothing. Tiffany and Sydney ended up voting tarp and so got nothing because Brad did choose steal. The solution for this game is basically straightforward when you can negotiate in the open: either get everyone to agree to tarp so that everyone wins, or get one player to agree to take it for the team and choose tarp and allow the other two to get the steal the vote advantage. The players seemingly quickly settled on the latter. When Sydney said, "I'm going to protect my vote and go tarp," Tiffany should have just said, "OK so Sydney, you stay on tarp, and that leaves Brad and me to go steal a vote. We'll hook you up in the future at the merge with our steal-a-vote advantage or some other way." Instead, Tiffany blathered some nonsense to antagonize her about "Do you want to play it safe or do you want to play Survivor?" Stupid, you want to cement her playing it safe here! Because if you talk her into taking a risk in this context that's bad for you! Also, after all her shittalking about playing it safe, Tiffany took the safe option of tarp. She sucks so bad. She's bad at the challenges, bad at the social game. I imagine everyone who has ever played but got booted off in the first couple episodes their seasons are like, "How did I lose Survivor before she did?" Unlike the first group on the hill, these three were actually given the opportunity to discuss their choices. It was really obvious that Brad was going to choose steal a vote. Sydney announces that she can't risk her vote so she is choosing tarp. Tiffany with her crazy eyes says something like "well why don't we all just leave it alone and whatever happens, happens" which to me implied that she was going to choose steal a vote, and didn't want others to know that. And then she goes and picks tarp. She is a very bad player... I think her reasoning must have been that Sydney couldn't be trusted, but if that's really what she thought, then why go blathering on to Sydney about taking chances on Survivor? On 10/7/2021 at 6:56 AM, cowgirlwen said: Shan to JD: "You should have told me that you had an advantage. Now I know that I can't trust you." Shan to Brad: "Thanks for telling me you have the advantages. You have too much power, so now I need to vote you out." Did anyone else think that Shan was talking down to JD for not sharing his advantage details with her? Almost like a parent scolding a child for doing something wrong. I find it hard to believe that she would have talked to Ricard, Jeanie, or Brad in that same condescending manner. Brad's ultimate mistake was sharing too much with the wrong person! Agreed. She criticised JD for not telling her about his advantage, but then when her ally Brad tells her about his two advantages, she quickly votes him off because he's "too dangerous". I thought Brad was incredibly dumb for telling her about both of the advantages. It was obvious that Genie was his #1 ally, why not keep it between the two of them? On 10/7/2021 at 7:45 AM, seacliffsal said: This may sound a bit cruel, but I think Jeff wants more than this truly successful show. He has tried writing movies and really, really wanted a talk show which he got and then lost as the viewers just weren't interested. Is he punishing us, the loyal viewers, by ruining his one endeavor that we supported because we haven't supported his other (vanity) projects? I just don't understand why he doesn't care what loyal, long-term viewers want and enjoy. Yep. I remember the time he appeared on some sitcom in a towel, or maybe it was naked holding a tray in front of him. Then his talk show. It's obvious he wants to be more than just being the host. I don't think he's going to get there anymore. Looking at him in the promos or in the Game Within a Game scenes... he looks like he's one step away from zombie stage. I don't know why he looks so old in these and not quite as old looking in the show itself. Is it the filter? The better camera? Lack of hair dye? On 10/7/2021 at 8:13 AM, laurakaye said: I ended up averting my eyes in second-hand embarrassment in preparation for those stupid phrases. I get the concept, but why couldn't the phrases be something that a semi-normal person would actually say? And once one person has said it, I don't think they should have to say it at every immunity challenge - once someone says their phrase and later on another person finds the advantage and reads it, I think it would be interesting for them to try and recall who said it last time. Repeating it just makes it look way more suspicious. I don't understand why they couldn't have made the phrases something that people might conceivably say. Like perhaps "I'm running on empty here". It's funny hearing talk about butterflies and broccoli, but anyone who doesn't know, should be surely suspicious now. Everyone on Yellow already knows because of Evvie and her big mouth, I think everyone on Green except maybe JD should now know because of Shan. I'm not sure about Blue... didn't Evvie tell Deshawn about this idol already, or no? 3 Link to comment
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