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15 hours ago, StellaCL said:


Who is the brunette end point of the triangle, last row? Is it Christina? That person is still struggling a bit. Madeline S. still willowy but has come along way, she will only get better. 

 

From my triangle chart the brunette next to Madeline S is Rebecca 

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Have y'all seen this article:  "How Two Dallas Cowboys Reality TV Shows Reveal a Gender-Based Double Standard" (see link below).

https://www.dmagazine.com/arts-entertainment/2021/09/two-cowboys-reality-shows-two-different-genders-two-different-ways-of-being-treated/

It's interesting, it references Malena's cut and Ike basically being called a slut (but in "nicer" terms) by Kelli and Judy.  I think they said "the lady from last night or something like that. 

I never knew that about Ezekiel Elliott.... makes me lose respect for him. 

What do you guys think?

 

*Admin.......my apologies if this is the wrong place to post this.   I'll delete it that's the case. 

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2 hours ago, SMP637 said:

Have y'all seen this article:  "How Two Dallas Cowboys Reality TV Shows Reveal a Gender-Based Double Standard" (see link below).

https://www.dmagazine.com/arts-entertainment/2021/09/two-cowboys-reality-shows-two-different-genders-two-different-ways-of-being-treated/

It's interesting, it references Malena's cut and Ike basically being called a slut (but in "nicer" terms) by Kelli and Judy.  I think they said "the lady from last night or something like that. 

I never knew that about Ezekiel Elliott.... makes me lose respect for him. 

What do you guys think?

 

*Admin.......my apologies if this is the wrong place to post this.   I'll delete it that's the 

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1 hour ago, SMP637 said:

Have y'all seen this article:  "How Two Dallas Cowboys Reality TV Shows Reveal a Gender-Based Double Standard" (see link below).

https://www.dmagazine.com/arts-entertainment/2021/09/two-cowboys-reality-shows-two-different-genders-two-different-ways-of-being-treated/

It's interesting, it references Malena's cut and Ike basically being called a slut (but in "nicer" terms) by Kelli and Judy.  I think they said "the lady from last night or something like that. 

I never knew that about Ezekiel Elliott.... makes me lose respect for him. 

What do you guys think?

 

*Admin.......my apologies if this is the wrong place to post this.   I'll delete it that's the case. 

Wow! I had never heard about the Hard Knocks show, but I might check it out now. I didn't know about Ezekiel Elliott pulling down a woman's top, but it doesn't surprise me considering that bar fight he got into & the whole alleged debacle with Holly Powell. Otherwise the topic of how differently the players & cheerleaders are treated isn't really news although its good that its becoming more of a topic of conversation in articles and on TV.

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23 hours ago, Holly85 said:

Read this one as well 

Holy sh*t! I hadn't heard about Gruden having been sent topless photos of cheerleaders! My skin was crawling as I read that article. It's the same feeling I got a few seasons ago on Making The Team when the cheerleaders were performing for Jerry Jones & other VIP's and Jones was sitting in a chair on the field a few feet away & with his eyes at butt level as the cheerleaders danced. I think at one point Kashara (or perhaps it was Lauren) was right in front of him & I was a little disturbed at his proximity to her. I mean I know we don't know that he was thinking anything inappropriate, but still it was uncomfortable to see.

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4 minutes ago, Bellisima08 said:

Holy sh*t! I hadn't heard about Gruden having been sent topless photos of cheerleaders! My skin was crawling as I read that article. It's the same feeling I got a few seasons ago on Making The Team when the cheerleaders were performing for Jerry Jones & other VIP's and Jones was sitting in a chair on the field a few feet away & with his eyes at butt level as the cheerleaders danced. I think at one point Kashara was right in front of him & I was a little disturbed at his proximity to her. I mean I know we don't know that he was thinking anything inappropriate, but still it was uncomfortable to see.

I moved this to small talks topic so sad 

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5 hours ago, SMP637 said:

What do you guys think?

It's all about the money.  Football players bring in the money.  Cheerleaders don't.

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7 hours ago, parrotfeathers said:

It's all about the money.  Football players bring in the money.  Cheerleaders don't.

You are quite right in comparison with the football team they don't but I remember KF stating in a "Cowboys Way" interview a couple of years back that the DCC had a media value to the Cowboys in access of $9Million.

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11 hours ago, Bellisima08 said:

I think at one point Kashara was right in front of him

Wasn't that Lauren the nurse?

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Hey all, just a little reminder for the upcoming episodes. If Victoria and/or Amanda are not specifically mentioned in the episode, do not talk about them. Answers to a "what happened to Victoria" type of post will result in a warning, as will comments about whether or not Amanda is being ghosted. I know sometimes it's easy to forget where you are posting, but please be mindful that not all posters are spoiled. Thanks in advance!

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3 hours ago, PomPomPom said:

You are quite right in comparison with the football team they don't but I remember KF stating in a "Cowboys Way" interview a couple of years back that the DCC had a media value to the Cowboys in access of $9Million.

I would think that would be way, way higher. The organization itself is worth several billion dollars, so $9M is a rounding error.  I remember something about $1M in revenue, but that also seems low once you roll in calendar sales and CMT money. So maybe $1M in local appearance fees?

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4 hours ago, Emma Snyder said:

Hey all, just a little reminder for the upcoming episodes. If Victoria and/or Amanda are not specifically mentioned in the episode, do not talk about them. Answers to a "what happened to Victoria" type of post will result in a warning, as will comments about whether or not Amanda is being ghosted. I know sometimes it's easy to forget where you are posting, but please be mindful that not all posters are spoiled. Thanks in advance!

Not arguing with you (and I do think the Victoria/Amanda questions have been thoroughly covered), but isn't this a "spoiler-okay" thread?

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1 hour ago, RedDelicious said:

I thought $1M was their operating budget and the theoretical reason why they could not exceed a team of 36?

I had heard it was financially restrictive as well as they only design the locker room, etc. for 36 women. But we all know anything goes if Kelli wants otherwise, haha. 

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6 hours ago, Emma Snyder said:

Hey all, just a little reminder for the upcoming episodes. If Victoria and/or Amanda are not specifically mentioned in the episode, do not talk about them. Answers to a "what happened to Victoria" type of post will result in a warning, as will comments about whether or not Amanda is being ghosted. I know sometimes it's easy to forget where you are posting, but please be mindful that not all posters are spoiled. Thanks in advance!

Thanks for the note! 
 

Quick question though. Word/rumors have started to spread in other groups, so I just want to make sure I’m not misunderstanding anything: Posting about Victoria/Amanda is not happening on episode threads, obviously, but it’s still ok to discuss spoilers in spoiler-only threads, right? 
 

Thanks! 

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9 minutes ago, Lona said:

Quick question though. Word/rumors have started to spread in other groups, so I just want to make sure I’m not misunderstanding anything: Posting about Victoria/Amanda is not happening on episode threads, obviously, but it’s still ok to discuss spoilers in spoiler-only threads, right? 
 

Sure is!!

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5 hours ago, hannahbanana said:

Not arguing with you (and I do think the Victoria/Amanda questions have been thoroughly covered), but isn't this a "spoiler-okay" thread?

Absolutely! Apologies for any confusion, I was referring to the upcoming episode threads. Unfortunately, Kelli didn't tell me what the upcoming episodes will feature (the NERVE!!!!), but if Victoria & Amanda aren't discussed in the episodes, don't discuss in the episode threads, discuss here.

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11 hours ago, ByTor said:

Wasn't that Lauren the nurse?

You could be right. I'll have to watch it again to be sure.

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This season has been boring so far! I need some drama and I like to hear more from the vets! I feel like it’s just been the same thing every week! I’ve been watching this show since I was little and this is the first time I’m bored with it 

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20 minutes ago, DCCland said:

This season has been boring so far! I need some drama and I like to hear more from the vets! I feel like it’s just been the same thing every week! I’ve been watching this show since I was little and this is the first time I’m bored with it 

What I think it is that Kelli Judy and cmt take lots of heat for drama but then when they don’t have any drama people complain they are bored 

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32 minutes ago, DCCland said:

This season has been boring so far! I need some drama and I like to hear more from the vets! I feel like it’s just been the same thing every week! I’ve been watching this show since I was little and this is the first time I’m bored with it 

 

12 minutes ago, Holly85 said:

What I think it is that Kelli Judy and cmt take lots of heat for drama but then when they don’t have any drama people complain they are bored 

Just my opinion but nah.  It's boring this season.  It's like K&J know they caught a lot of heat from last season so have made a point to go in the opposite direction this season which I find ultra boring.  😴

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11 hours ago, Emma Snyder said:

Hey all, just a little reminder for the upcoming episodes. If Victoria and/or Amanda are not specifically mentioned in the episode, do not talk about them. Answers to a "what happened to Victoria" type of post will result in a warning, as will comments about whether or not Amanda is being ghosted. I know sometimes it's easy to forget where you are posting, but please be mindful that not all posters are spoiled. Thanks in advance!

I understand not mentioning the Amanda sitch on the episode thread but Victoria didnt tryout this year. She’s not on the board of 52 so its obvious she’s not in camp. And it seems like Kelli is never gonna mention her so is it really a spoiler? Just curious🤷🏼‍♀️

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1 minute ago, go4luca said:

 

Just my opinion but nah.  It's boring this season.  It's like K&J know they caught a lot of heat from last season so have made a point to go in the opposite direction this season which I find ultra boring.  😴

Ok 

Just now, Trixi said:

I understand not mentioning the Amanda sitch on the episode thread but Victoria didnt tryout this year. She’s not on the board of 52 so its obvious she’s not in camp. And it seems like Kelli is never gonna mention her so is it really a spoiler? Just curious🤷🏼‍♀️

This was ment for the non spoiler thread

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25 minutes ago, Holly85 said:

Ok 

This was ment for the non spoiler thread

I get that but is it a spoiler if its something that is never gonna b addressed and pertains to someone that isnt even in camp? If Victoria made the decision to bravely step away during camp, then yes mentioning her wud b a spoiler. But she didnt try out, isnt  gonna b on the show at all so whats getting spoiled? Still Im just curious on why shes a spoiler on a show she isnt on.   Sorry if Im not making sense.

To add to my thought, once Episode 1 was aired and VK wasn’t one of the 52 girls in TC, she can no longer b a spoiler topic, u cant spoil something thats not applicable. 

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8 hours ago, Trixi said:

I understand not mentioning the Amanda sitch on the episode thread but Victoria didnt tryout this year. She’s not on the board of 52 so its obvious she’s not in camp. And it seems like Kelli is never gonna mention her so is it really a spoiler? Just curious🤷🏼‍♀️

In an episode thread you should discuss what's in the episode, not what isn't. 😺

If anybody has any questions at all, please shoot me a PM.

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Sorry to be that person, but does anyone have the triangle for this year? I promise I looked over the last 10 pages but you guys talk so quick!

I haven't kept up the last few years after going on strike after I heard Hannah got cut last year, so trying to catch up with over a years worth of stuff!

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13 minutes ago, Nelliephant said:

Sorry to be that person, but does anyone have the triangle for this year? I promise I looked over the last 10 pages but you guys talk so quick!

I haven't kept up the last few years after going on strike after I heard Hannah got cut last year, so trying to catch up with over a years worth of stuff!

First and second triangles 

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12 hours ago, Trixi said:

I get that but is it a spoiler if its something that is never gonna b addressed and pertains to someone that isnt even in camp? If Victoria made the decision to bravely step away during camp, then yes mentioning her wud b a spoiler. But she didnt try out, isnt  gonna b on the show at all so whats getting spoiled? Still Im just curious on why shes a spoiler on a show she isnt on.   Sorry if Im not making sense.

 

This still makes me laugh... I do hope she's okay and if she comes back its with some new found self awareness...

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16 hours ago, go4luca said:

 

Just my opinion but nah.  It's boring this season.  It's like K&J know they caught a lot of heat from last season so have made a point to go in the opposite direction this season which I find ultra boring.  😴

That's kinda what @Holly85 said.  IMO, if they're going in the opposite direction, then it's our fault (collectively) that it's boring.   We hate the drama and we hate the lack of it.

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1 minute ago, Weeklydcc said:

That's kinda what @Holly85 said.  IMO, if they're going in the opposite direction, then it's our fault (collectively) that it's boring.   We hate the drama and we hate the lack of it.

I guess I'm interpreting this differently.  Which is what we all do here.  We all have our own opinions.  😊

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16 hours ago, DCCland said:

This season has been boring so far! I need some drama and I like to hear more from the vets! I feel like it’s just been the same thing every week! I’ve been watching this show since I was little and this is the first time I’m bored with it 

This season is boring. Finally got around to watching episodes 1-4.  A lot of the interactions seem contrived and scripted. There is a different feel to the office visits - except for those in the locker room - like they are on a set. The visit with Ava in the locker room was just strange.  Definitely something different about this season, and not in a good way.  (Loved seeing Kash, though!)

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I've been watching episodes back and I just have to say... I really miss when the girls were authentically themselves (kinda like Klein). Now it seems so pageant-y and staged :( I wish CMT would drop the dramatic music and the sob stories and just go back to a normal show. IMO they're in too deep and it's just going to get worse. Still have love for DCC though of course <3

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On 10/13/2021 at 5:02 PM, RedDelicious said:

I thought $1M was their operating budget and the theoretical reason why they could not exceed a team of 36?

The biggest portion of the $9M was from media appearances and in particular CMT MTT. The podcast is worth a look. There are even slides showing the valuations.

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54 minutes ago, Weeklydcc said:

That's kinda what @Holly85 said.  IMO, if they're going in the opposite direction, then it's our fault (collectively) that it's boring.   We hate the drama and we hate the lack of it.

They need to work on finding a balance 

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9 hours ago, Holly85 said:

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Things that bother me about the triangle:

For Taylor's height, she really should be in the middle. As a 4 year veteran, it would make the most sense for her to be in Jalyn's spot. But obviously Taylor isn't strong enough. So why is she even on the team? There are plenty of great ambassadors on the team...

It really should be tall girls on the inside, short girls on the outside (when possible). It looks the best. That means Chandi should be on the outside, Rebecca/Dani/Elli on the inside, etc.

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25 minutes ago, dccfan204 said:

Things that bother me about the triangle:

For Taylor's height, she really should be in the middle. As a 4 year veteran, it would make the most sense for her to be in Jalyn's spot. But obviously Taylor isn't strong enough. So why is she even on the team? There are plenty of great ambassadors on the team...

It really should be tall girls on the inside, short girls on the outside (when possible). It looks the best. That means Chandi should be on the outside, Rebecca/Dani/Elli on the inside, etc.

A little blurry, but it's Christina, MadelineS, Rebecca, Megan, Lea, AmberL, Jensen and Ashlinn on the back row.  Next row up has Tyra on our left and KayDi on our right.

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2 hours ago, ClassicPegg said:

A little blurry, but it's Christina, MadelineS, Rebecca, Megan, Lea, AmberL, Jensen and Ashlinn on the back row.  Next row up has Tyra on our left and KayDi on our right.

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Yeah I think the back two rows should look something more like this:

          

Tyra   Christina   Jensen   Rebecca   Madeline   Lea   Amber   Kleine

(Short)                                           (Tall)                                       (Short)

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7 hours ago, Weeklydcc said:

That's kinda what @Holly85 said.  IMO, if they're going in the opposite direction, then it's our fault (collectively) that it's boring.   We hate the drama and we hate the lack of it.

Except you don't need drama (especially the manufactured stuff) to create interest. Yes, it's the easy way to create interest, but there are other ways too. Give people a reason to be interested/invested in the girls (back stories (not just the sob stories), what they're doing outside of the filmed training camp nights to get on the team, more about the vets & their experiences during the previous year on the team (and, yes, they're auditioning for their spot, so they qualify as "making the team"), etc.) and people will be interested. Even the after show videos of K & J talking about things this year has been more interesting than some things they've shown in previous seasons (haven't watched this season), because it gives insight as to what they are actually thinking.  Most of the girls we know nothing about & the ones we do, it's because of social media & forums like these, not the show. Interesting content is not just drama.

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16 hours ago, Holly85 said:

First and second triangles 

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6 hours ago, ClassicPegg said:

A little blurry, but it's Christina, MadelineS, Rebecca, Megan, Lea, AmberL, Jensen and Ashlinn on the back row.  Next row up has Tyra on our left and KayDi on our right.

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Just looking the back row of like Gina's triangle in the field photo it is different than the triangle grid created by AYTOL. 

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5 minutes ago, StellaCL said:

 

Just looking the back row of like Gina's triangle in the field photo it is different than the triangle grid created by AYTOL. 

I’ve posted the wrong one sorry 

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Saw the sneak peak for tomorrows episode and Kylie was in a visible spot !!

She is so cute.

For the people who are watching the show tomorrow please tell me how she was. (can't watch the show because I'm too lazy to set up a vpn)

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I don't think this has been mentioned yet but Cailey said in her instagram story that she'll be auditioning again next year. 

I wonder who else is planning to come back.

Amanda and Mel ?

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Just now, Kamal said:

I don't think this has been mentioned yet but Cailey said in her instagram story that she'll be auditioning again next year. 

I wonder who else is planning to come back.

Amanda and Mel ?

Not sure if they will they haven’t said 

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On 10/13/2021 at 7:52 PM, go4luca said:

 

Just my opinion but nah.  It's boring this season.  It's like K&J know they caught a lot of heat from last season so have made a point to go in the opposite direction this season which I find ultra boring.  😴

Agreed!!

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Last year's debacle was good for ratings but I do think it hurt their overall brand. I fully expected a reparative  "feel good" season this year. I also think they are acutely aware of cancel culture. We likely will never ever hear about weight or body issues again. Likely those things are discussed off camera.

For me, the trend toward being overly produced is my only continued complaint. I wish they'd do a throw back.  I wish we saw some actual training camp  rehearsal that weren't just the film nights with K/J. Oh my. Maybe I miss Kitty? 😬

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4 hours ago, Love 2 C U Smile said:

Tyra and Kaydianna are switched and it looks like Christina and Amber are also.

From rewatching some performance videos and looking at press pictures I think it is this: 

Back row- Christina, Madeline S, Rebecca, Megan, Lea, Amber L, Jensen, Ashlinn

Second row- Tyra, Kline, Jessica, Jada, Tori, Kelee, Kaydinna 

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13 hours ago, hannahbanana said:

Except you don't need drama (especially the manufactured stuff) to create interest. Yes, it's the easy way to create interest, but there are other ways too. Give people a reason to be interested/invested in the girls (back stories (not just the sob stories), what they're doing outside of the filmed training camp nights to get on the team, more about the vets & their experiences during the previous year on the team (and, yes, they're auditioning for their spot, so they qualify as "making the team"), etc.) and people will be interested. Even the after show videos of K & J talking about things this year has been more interesting than some things they've shown in previous seasons (haven't watched this season), because it gives insight as to what they are actually thinking.  Most of the girls we know nothing about & the ones we do, it's because of social media & forums like these, not the show. Interesting content is not just drama.

True and well put.

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